Bread Maker Kenwood BM450

Hrenasse modernization, if I order a bucket for 1200, but it does not fit? Should I go to the store to check with a bread maker?
If they change something, make additional markings both on the stoves and on the buckets.

There is a marking on the bucket, now I specifically looked at all my 3 buckets. There are markings on each. And when I ordered a round and square bucket on the Internet (by the way, I have something with the right (new)), the manager asked me 3 times how it was attached, how many rivets there were inside the bucket. WHAT MARKING ON A NATIVE BUCKET IS WORTH. Everything fit perfectly! The main thing is that the manager is competent and you tell him all the details correctly!


But the native rectangular!

What ears are we talking about?

Ears at the top of the bucket, it feels like they did for a stove model, in which the bucket is not attached from below, but rests on top from both sides (I saw this on the Internet, on an old stove)
Someone, take a picture not of the bucket, but the stove from the inside!
I have such kind of curls there, but there is still one without curls, just a circle. Am I new or old ???

I beg your pardon for the sight, hands do not reach to clean. This is after the old bucket began to leak, a type of carbon deposit formed. Here's a stove inside the mountings.

Where are the curls ?? Or are they not visible in the photo? If not, then I'm not like that. This is bad? I can't take a picture, unfortunately, but there are like two such waves towards each other, and the skewers are located differently. But the second one in the store was like yours. Have you had a stove for a long time?

Where are the curls ??
It's not like that for me. This is bad? I can't take a picture, unfortunately, but there are like two such waves towards each other, and the skewers are located differently. But the second one in the store was like yours. Have you had a stove for a long time?

Well, probably already about 5 years old, her husband and son gave me a birthday present! I waited (hinted) that I wanted a hob or an electric meat grinder, and they presented a bread maker. Since then I love them even more!

friends, tell me what s / p is the most optimal for sourdough bread today? I'm leaning towards kenwood so far. but in general I have a Panasonic 255 on my farm, but I can't get sourdough bread in it. and can buy bork or delongues?

friends, tell me what s / p is the most optimal for sourdough bread today? I'm leaning towards kenwood so far. but in general I have a Panasonic 255 on my farm, but I can't get sourdough bread in it. and can buy bork or delongues?

Zojirushi Breadmaker BB-CEC20 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=159825.0
Brand 3801 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=555.0
well, maybe another DeLonghi EOB 2071 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=143917.0

Thank you, I generally like the brandik, but in my cartoon the chemical smell lasted for six months, only now it has disappeared, so there is some doubt. the other two models are a little expensive, I don't want bork anymore - I read it here. and the binaton seems to be quite good. got confused already.
what about kenwood? Is it possible to program a long-term proofing in it for more than 2 hours without intermediate additions?

what about kenwood? Is it possible to program a long-term proofing in it for more than 2 hours without intermediate additions?

Unfortunately it is impossible, he still does a warm-up
there is still Delongy 125 but it has been discontinued and cannot be found in Russia

People, tell me, please, at what stage does the bread maker remember the program entered into it? I entered a program into it (the first position is P1) when I was baking rye bread, and a little later I saw that it was reset to the standard one.

Explanation - I baked bread according to my own program, everything went fine, but after a while I noticed that the timer on this program number again shows the old value.

finally ripe for a bread maker, the neighbors treated me to bread from mulinkx. Advise which stove is better to take
Kenwood BM450 or Panasonic SD-ZB2502BTS or Panasonic SD-2501WTS
They praise both that and that, but they scare that Kenwood's glass breaks

HELP HELP HELP !!!
My HB is already a year old. everything was fine - the bread practically turned out, except when the flour pumped up in quality (it can be very wet and the bread settled). I did not experiment much, I bake according to the recipe I read here white bread and also dark, I also dug it here. I didn't change anything in the recipes, but for a whole month my bread has stopped rising !!!!!!!!! at the last proofing, half a bucket rises and that's it! that only I didn’t do and I changed flour and drozhi changed and first started pouring them into a glass to check - they walk at all !!! The picture does not change - bread does not rise, now only my husband and I remember that huge, lush bread for the whole bucket What could have happened? maybe she stopped heating during the proofing process ??? who had a similar situation? can take her to the service ??? how can you drive your program ??? just how I can not figure it out, help !!!! make the last more proofing and maybe the bread will rise ??? !!!

[vikusj1703]

vikusj1703, answer only one question: "Is there such a thing as standing temperature in your stove?" If so, how has this maturation changed now in the summer. I just have a different stove, and the problems started the same, and the same thing recently.

[vikusj1703]

vikusj1703, answer only one question: "Is there such a thing as standing temperature in your stove?" If so, how has this maturation changed now in the summer. I just have a different stove, and the problems started the same, and the same thing recently.

no! I have not read anywhere about vypavnivanie or standing temperature ..... I will study the book again, but I doubt that there is!

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Not so long ago she became the owner of this stove. I like the stove and so far it satisfies in everything. One misunderstanding I have is the recipe book. Maybe I'm so slow-witted, and someone can "translate" me into more understandable names for the flour that is used there?
Unbleached white flour for baking bread - ?
Dark flour for baking bread - ?
Whole flour for making bread - if we assume that this name is taken from the recipe "100% whole grain bread", then this is whole grain flour and wherever "Whole flour for making bread" is mentioned, should you take whole grain?
Is there some more "Plain flour"...

Not so long ago she became the owner of this stove. I like the stove and so far it satisfies in everything. One misunderstanding I have is the recipe book. Maybe I'm so slow-witted, and someone can "translate" me into more understandable names for the flour that is used there?
Unbleached white flour for baking bread - ?
Dark flour for baking bread - ?
Whole flour for making bread - if we assume that this name is taken from the recipe "100% whole grain bread", then this is whole grain flour and wherever "Whole flour for making bread" is mentioned, should you take whole grain?
Is there some more "Plain flour"...

I take the most common flour, there is also whole grain flour, rye, corn flour and a lot of other flours. I have never used the book, although I did not have it at all normal, they were printed from the Internet. I take the recipe I like from different forums and bake bread for myself. Yesterday I made 2 varieties of whole grain with the addition of wheat. The bread is delicious.

Unbleached white flour is the most popular in the book. I take "bakery", buy immediately in packages of 5-10 kg.

nvk, and the recipes in the book are very good, they didn't try in vain ... besides, the guaranteed result. I have tried so many recipes from here, but in the end (if not rye) I most often bake from a book. Our hits: white with seeds (on the 1st program) and "Brioche bun". On the basis of Brioche, she learned to make a sweet roll on the advice of Fugasca, so the family is generally delighted.

like this, try:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...c=641.0

Unbleached white flour is the most popular in the book. I take "bakery", buy immediately in packages of 5-10 kg.

nvk, and the recipes in the book are very good, they didn't try in vain ... besides, the guaranteed result. I have tried so many recipes from here, but in the end (if not rye) I most often bake from a book. Our hits: white with seeds (on the 1st program) and "Brioche bun". On the basis of Brioche, she learned to make a sweet roll on the advice of Fugasca, so the family is generally delighted.

like this, try:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...c=641.0

yes I tried the recipes. I mean, I'm not following the recipe recommendations in the book. I take any composition for bread (from different types of flour) and bake. And I often make such a roll-bread with garlic and dried fruits, and even like a zebra. Thanks to the neighboring forum, I learned how to make a stove when I bought it.

I bake for the first time - right now, the same garbage happened, I read it for some people - I accidentally pressed the stop at the moment of the first proofing.
Everything started anew - what would be the result? everything is lost?))))

I bake for the first time - right now, the same garbage happened, I read it for some people - I accidentally pressed the stop at the moment of the first proofing.
Everything started anew - what would be the result? everything is lost?))))

Tie playful hands and lift the dough by hand, keeping an eye on the rise.
Next, switch to baking.

and "mixing" the test is bad? to understand ...
I, at my own peril and risk, decided not to interfere anymore and continue.

No, it's not at all funny, once again I literally carried it past my fingers - the button was pressed again .... at the moment of the second of three proofings .... how to raise it yourself?

and "mixing" the test is bad? to understand ...
I, at my own peril and risk, decided not to interfere anymore and continue.

No, it's not at all funny, once again I literally carried it past my fingers - the button was pressed again .... at the moment of the second of three proofings .... how to raise it yourself?

Two options:
- Start over again
- Program the rise and look out the window, as soon as it comes up, reset the program and put the baking mode.

I perform the second option)
probably it was better to write to the ambulance?)

if suddenly everything works out - it will not be "thanks" but "in spite of".
Well, I hope I collected all the mistakes for the first time and I will no longer)

Hello dear bakers! Recently I bought a Kenwood-450 ... I baked the first bread on program 2 from 1st grade flour and added seeds ... When the dispenser worked, from an unexpected rumble, I suddenly got scared that the stove had started ... and pressed "stop" ... then the question also arose, what to do next? Launched a new program ... and the bread was baked - it rose well, weighing 743 grams, flat, cute, baked ... But I'm just worried - there is a rattling when mixing - there is a suspicion of a bucket ... Is this significant or can you not bother?

report)
brought -


some strange stickers - it's not clear where to sculpt. (There is a list of programs)


measuring spoon especially pleased


start - normal flight


confused wrapping - began to shaman with milk and flour

like this


and like this


somewhere at the beginning of the first proofing -



then it rose, but not much.
Finale - "how I still did not manage to spoil the bread" neither a double program failure, nor curved programming, nor additional baking:



burnt a little at the very base - it was not too easy to remove -


Slice - just cut from the stove, a little wet, but dries up right before our eyes, I think it will cool down - it will be just that.

Hurrah! Ivan, thanks for your support)))))

Alina! I cut the bread after cooling, it's a completely different matter, it immediately became clear how it was baked ... And I glued the stickers on the x / n lid - it even shows where.

Chuchundra - did not have time to read the instructions where and what to glue)
I can't see anything on black, I pasted it on gray.

I had 2 books with recipes, in Russian and Ukrainian, in the set for the x / n, stickers and a disk - also with recipes, for a computer ... everything was invested in specials. album. And in it there are pictures of how and where to glue the stickers ... in principle, you can see on black, but I think that they will be covered after several baths ..

By the way, something rattled during kneading - it was decided just by moving the lid slightly to the left - can it help?

Chuchundra, the handle of the bucket rattles during kneading. I don't bother. You can check by lifting the handle or throw it over to the other side.

Thanks for the tips! I threw the handle of the bucket, but still the rattling ... The main thing is that the bucket does not rip off, as they say, there is such a thing among bakers ... Let's see how it will be ... I haven't tried the oven yet, the dispenser, I wonder, won't wake up the neighbors ?

then it rose, but not much.

I read that you cannot open the lid at the stage of raising the dough, the top of the bread may fall off or rise poorly, and judging by the photo, you opened the oven, maybe because of this ...

My problem is rattling ... the bucket dangles a little when kneading ... And the bread is baked for 2 more times, now SWEET BREAD was baked well and baked ... Who else has a problem with the bucket?

Chuchundra, we must try to snap the bucket with different sides. I think it will work in more. I have never had a bucket of itself torn off during kneading, and I already have the third bucket. Is that only when mixing Vanin rye, when I actively help with a spatula. And to jump off itself - never. By the way, the last bucket, when it snaps into place, is quite crooked, but it doesn't touch the shadows and I don't bother.

My sweet bread turned out great ... the aroma for the whole apartment ... added coconut flakes to the recipe. I will master a bread maker, which I have never had - my son-son - after the 1st course, the student earned extra money in the summer and gave me a cotton-blend. Such joy .... And the bucket twisted and twisted until it clicks, but it is inserted simply and quietly ... I hope that in the future there will be no problems with it! Thanks for your support, glykoza!

I, too, for the first time when the dispenser worked I thought the stove was broken and reports an error))). In general, the process is very loud: it beeps and rumbles. You definitely can't put it at night, it will wake up the whole house. But my rumble is not from the bucket, but from the hinged metal cover of the dispenser.

Today is the last day out of 14, given by the store for checking the x / n ... The rattling does not magically disappear anywhere .. The son says, it is necessary to take it to the service center before it's too late. Yesterday I baked "Dark Onion Bread" on quick baked goods - 0.58 minutes - I started the program - and suddenly smoke came out from under the lid ... I stopped it, got upset ... then I started it again - everything seems to be working ... I thought I got flour from the bucket - that's where she started to smoke ... But the bread was not completely baked - the first time it didn't work. Why is it called "dark onion"? Light crumb with an onion flavor, light crust ... No camera down and a phone without a camera ... I can't take pictures ...

Today is the last day out of 14, given by the store for checking the x / n ... The rattling does not magically disappear anywhere .. The son says, it is necessary to take it to the service center before it's too late. ...

And what, a son or a neighbor's hands do not have to determine what rattles, opening the lid during kneading, you can without flour?
Yes, and from the general sighs and oohs, you will not be able to help, set up a camera, describe in detail what you are doing there, help will come to you!

Hello ... When the lid is open without a tab in the bucket or with it, at the very beginning of the kneading, there is no rattling, as soon as the mixer starts to work continuously, then it appears ...

Hello ... When the lid is open without a tab in the bucket or with it, at the very beginning of the kneading, there is no rattling, as soon as the mixer starts to work continuously, then it appears ...

So lift the lid at this moment, press the bucket, listen to where the sound comes from, put the breadmaker higher and listen from below, the sound is not a needle.
And it is better not to entrust this to yourself, although in general it is not difficult.

I pressed the bucket ... The sound comes from below ...now I'm baking Brioche again ... I really liked it ...

I have been using the stove for a year and a half and now the bucket has started to leak, and today the shaft on which the blade is being put on has fallen out. Tell me where to buy a bucket for Kenwood 450?

[Love]

Love, I think there are many service centers in Moscow.

For example, I found consumables here // www. The price is certainly considerable, but can someone else tell me.

I have the 3rd bucket myself. The first was changed under warranty, and the second was bought very cheaply for 20 euros. But even in our wilderness there are buckets, and even in Moscow and the region, I think they are a dime a dozen. You just need to look. Good luck.

By the way, do you have a warranty stove by any chance?

Lyuba, I think that any service center will be able to bring it to you. Look, I have a link to all centers in Russia.
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Nadia, thanks for the link, I looked at everything until I got through, Sunday. Tomorrow in the morning I'll start looking, but for now I put everything in place, set it in the oven and baked bread, though I first put the dry ingredients and then the liquid. Everything worked out great, it didn't even leak.

Good day to all! Today she joined the ranks of the happy owners of this bread machine! Tell me, but the mixer should not be very tight on the drive shaft: it dangles a little, does not stand up fixedly? And the bucket jumps a little when kneading, is this also the norm or should it sit like a cast ??

The paddle stirrer in all stoves sits like this, I looked at different companies in the store, all of them have a little backlash. but my bucket does not jump, although it works noisily, try to fix it better, although if the dough is very steep (there is little liquid) it can jump.

You know, it is not that it jumps very much, it is fixed, but it jumps slightly in place when the mixer is working. But can it really not move at all when the dough is kneading, the crumb still shakes it a little ...
I read the recipes that came with the bread maker on the disc. There, some sweet recipes use molasses. Where to buy this? And is whole flour on sale? And where to get the leaven for yeast-free dough?

And also after the last batch I always take out (if at home at this time) the mixer. Then the bread is obtained with a small hole at the bottom !!! Have you already brought it?

How do you keep track of this last batch, just by the sounds from the HP? I'm just still a complete layman in this business ... Always 3 kneading?
By the way, about washing. Can the bucket be washed outside, or should the water not get there in any case?