Natali_ka
Quote: Bijou

So you don't go alone now, you increase your "skill", so to speak.)) And such unexpected members of the forum, who suddenly registered on the forum with a specific purpose, differ very easily. Even if, before the target post, they write 20 messages in other topics or allow registration to lie down for a month or two.

Everything, it was nice to meet you.

I am pleased to meet too.

I don’t know, I’m not a regular on forums, I really need help in choosing a technique, I accidentally stumbled upon this forum, read 100 pages, but all the entries are old, prices have now doubled. And what is advised by the same Bosch, I read on all equipment in the same m. Video 1 year warranty and production from Bosch Russia or China. And the discount on the brandt was on the website and the price, so I asked the "experienced", it is written France, I really excuse the brake and I don't know who to believe now: Forums, reviews on the market, in online stores, sales assistants? Who the fuck.

I'll go to buy at random then, the old Indesit refrigerator has been plowing a single breakdown for 10 years, but I'm not a boom boom in terms of installation.
Vei
Quote: Natali_ka
And the discount on the brandt was on the website and the price, so I asked "experienced", it is written France,
I have never had this technique, I just heard a positive review from one representative of another brand about this brand. Honestly, I think6 that if the price is good, then we should take it. Better yet, call any oven service center and ask which ones are most often repaired and which ones are less frequent.

I have an electrolux (Germany) for 70 thousand, but it still does not bake perfectly evenly, while my mother has the simplest Electrolux without bells and whistles, which is already 10 years old, bakes beautifully. So you can't guess with expensive equipment now, the tendency has gone to do the teznik not for centuries, as before.
louisa
Quote: Vei
I have an electrolux (Germany) for 70 thousand, but it still does not bake perfectly evenly, while my mother has the simplest Electrolux without bells and whistles, which is already 10 years old, bakes beautifully. So you can't guess with expensive equipment now, the tendency has gone to do the teznik not for centuries, as before.
I agree, I have Bosch, with convection, chose so that it is of high quality and for sure, but bakes are also imperfect, uneven ((
Natali_ka
Quote: Vei

I have never had this technique, I just heard a positive review from one representative of another brand about this brand. Honestly, I think6 that if the price is good, then we should take it. Better yet, call any oven service center and ask which ones are most often repaired and which ones are less frequent.

I have an electrolux (Germany) for 70 thousand, but it still does not bake perfectly evenly, while my mother has the simplest Electrolux without bells and whistles, which is already 10 years old, bakes beautifully. So you can't guess with expensive equipment now, the tendency has gone to do the teznik not for centuries, as before.

Thank you, I just have no experience, all IKEA appliances were in the rented apartments from the building, the oven baked horror, the biscuit was rubber! And at home everything was gas and the usual USSR, and now I want good things in my apartment, but of course not for 70 thousand, we won't be able to do that, an acceptable GAZ cooking up to 20 thousand, spirit. wardrobe up to 30 thousand, and so that at least for 5-10 years was enough, the guarantee for a year simply killed me, and so in all stores, this upset me. I'll probably take this brandt - there it costs a maximum of 17 thousand, if that's not a pity then.
I also want the pyrolysis function - is this how it is needed or is there enough convection for cleaning?
Bijou
Quote: Natali_ka
from the built-in was all IKEA equipment, the oven baked horror, the biscuit was rubber!
Hmm ..The owners of Electrolux will probably be surprised.)) Since all Ikea equipment is Electrolux or Whirlpool.
Natali_ka
Quote: Bijou

Hmm .. The owners of Electrolux will probably be surprised.)) Since all Ikea equipment is Electrolux or Whirlpool.

Maybe they will be surprised, or maybe my hands are out of the priests just)) in that oven I did not succeed, oddly enough
Umka
Quote: Natali_ka
I also want the pyrolysis function - is this how it is needed or is there enough convection for cleaning?
Natali_kaYou don't confuse much about how to clean the oven. There are 3 types of cleaning: pyrolysis, hydrolysis and catalytic cleaning, and convection is a type of heat exchange ...


Added Wednesday, March 16, 2016 5:16 PM

Bijou, Lena, but still bought Electrolux about which there are very controversial opinions / reviews in runet. For a long time I toiled, but still bought my handsome Electrolux EOC 5851 AOX (I also found German) !!! I think that we will live in unison with him for a long time !!!

Bijou, Lena, thank you for your help in choosing, for your troubles and indifference !!!

Girls ALL huge THANKS for the answers to my "stupid" questions !!!

P.S. there was a dishwasher, washer and dryer, but 2 and 3 are off ...
Money
Umka19,
Luda, if it's not a secret, where did you find it? Maybe give a tip, also search and torment of choice ..
Bijou
Umka19, Ltd! Well, that's for sure a beauty!
Congratulations with all my heart, I also hope that you will become her friends. And she will be an obedient girl. ))
Natali_ka
Quote: Umka19

Natali_kaYou don't confuse much about how to clean the oven. There are 3 types of cleaning: pyrolysis, hydrolysis and catalytic cleaning, and convection is a type of heat exchange ...

Precisely catalytic or pyrolysis)) everything is already spinning, I honestly hate my repairs, and these purchases are also a technique in which there is no boom boom, besides, considering that, in principle, I am not a particularly lucky person))

And really share where you bought the cabinet, and what kind of cooking do you have? Gas?
Umka
Quote: Money
Maybe give a tip, also search and torment of choice ..
Money, Tatyana, answered in PM.

Quote: Bijou
Congratulations from the bottom of my heart
Lena,


Added Wednesday 16 March 2016 06:18 PM

Quote: Natali_ka
not very lucky person
Natali_ka, Natasha, with such thoughts in general you do not need to do anything in life !!! Thought is such a material thing !!! Therefore, everything in this life should be done and thought only on POSITIVE !!!

No, my cooker is induction, and the oven is 1.5 times more expensive than your budget, so Natasha no offense ... I also had a new apartment (without everything ... walls, pipes, sockets, etc.). ) in a mortgage, etc., etc., so I even considered the Hephaestus oven, but since I could not see it live anywhere, I decided to buy my DREAM !!!

In general, I am of the opinion that rather than buying a no name, it is better to look at trusted companies / brands
🔗 - these are the DS that I was ready to buy, but did not find in order to physically see them, but in the regions I have, I have a godfather at home (Shakhty RO) on my advice and so far I am happy ... pay attention to them gas installation. panels !!!
Money
Umka19,
Luda, thanks for the info. already ran to see :)
Good to everyone, congratulations on your purchase !!
and I'm looking for a steam
Umka
Quote: Money
looking for a steam

Tatyana, with steam bake or hydrolysis cleaning ???
Money
Umka19,
Luda, for baking. Cleaning does not bother me much, my old woman is 15 years old inside, she is still clean, only it's already difficult with her, not everything works as it should
Bijou
parconvection machine
Quote: Money
Luda, for baking.
Looking at the prices of such advanced ovens with not so advanced functions, sometimes you want to spit and buy a normal parconvection machine. ((
Umka
Quote: Bijou
parconvection machine
Lena, is it like Stalik Khankishiev ???
Bijou
I don't know who he is. It's like they put cabinets for baking in a cafe. They are very different in size, price and functionality. And since they are intended solely for work, and not for show off in front of neighbors design, then there are few fancy things, but there is a lot of sense. They look scary, I mean.
Natali_ka
Natali_ka [/ b], Natasha, with such thoughts in general you do not need to do anything in life !!! Thought is such a material thing !!! Therefore, everything in this life should be done and thought only on POSITIVE !!!

No, my cooker is induction, and the oven is 1.5 times more expensive than your budget, so Natasha no offense ... I also had a new apartment (without everything ... walls, pipes, sockets, etc.). ) in a mortgage, etc., etc., so I even considered the Hephaestus oven, but since I could not see it live anywhere, I decided to buy my DREAM !!!

In general, I am of the opinion that rather than buying a no name, it is better to look at trusted companies / brands
🔗 - these are the DS that I was ready to buy, but did not find in order to physically see them, but in the regions I have, I have a godfather at home (Shakhty RO) on my advice and so far I'm happy ... pay attention to them gas installation. panels !!!

Yes, positive thoughts, I try at least, I'm just tired of spending all the money on repairs for more than one month, I also looked at hefest, but I was embarrassed against her, because now there is an old gas stove hefest from the old tenants and it has electric ignition does not work ))

And I have already seen that I cannot afford your closet, or rather, maybe I can even afford it, I'm just not ready to pay so much for the oven, miser ((
Maybe I'm wrong and I need to spend on all this technique to the maximum?
I do not even know, the first time such purchases. Anyway, I took the advice, thanks.
Bellamy
Quote: Natali_ka
Precisely catalytic or pyrolysis))
Natali_ka, I would not bother with pyrolysis, such ovens usually require 4 glasses in the door in order to protect both you and the furniture. And also specials should be provided in them. insulation. Then, as far as I understand this is a large consumption of electricity, you will pay more for electricity ...
In general, my opinion is that the pyrolysis function cannot be well implemented in an oven for 12-17 tr.

The catalyst is also not the best way out, it fails after 4-5 years of operation, but still, in my opinion, it is more profitable than pyrolysis if you choose an economy model.

I could advise, of course, options for models for 17 tr, but I'm afraid that they will throw tomatoes at me
Anastasenok
Girls, I read the whole Temka in due time. I was tormented by a choice and then decided to score on a steam baking, cleaning and so on in favor of combining with a microwave. For the second year I am happy as an elephant. And they saved a lot of space and bakes evenly. True, I have not played with the combined quick cooking modes yet.

For me, one minus, baking trays have to be stored standing under the sink.

I have a Samsung 115
Olechka.s
Quote: Bijou
Looking at the prices of such advanced ovens with not so advanced functions, sometimes you want to spit and buy a normal parconvection machine. ((
Lena, I heard about such a miracle for the first time. I looked in the internet, I was interested.But the prices And yes, without fancy
Anna1957
Quote: Anastasenok
in favor of combining with a microwave.
I also look in this direction, but the power consumption is confusing - the volume is 40 liters, no less. And at a cheaper price, you will get a Shteba stove for 28 liters (13 thousand) + micra. There will be enough space in my kitchen.
Bijou

Quote: Olechka.s
Looked in the internet, interested.But prices
Is it really worse than these?))) 🔗
Olechka.s
Oooh .... I don't look at those. Of course the cheapest ones cost the same as electric suites with steam. Watched abat But of course this issue needs to be studied. Repair and replacement of kitchens are to be done. technology.
louisa
Quote: Olechka.s
Watched abat
if my memory serves me, these are domestic combi ovens and they look yes, like in the Soviets. Very decent ovens and in terms of price-quality ratio-Unox, indeed, a worthwhile thing, a hostess's dream, but I have never met household models, and professional ones installed in the house-: pardon: besides, there is a 380 V network needed
Nata333
Girls, are there those among you who regretted having taken a pyrolysis oven?
Or exhale, wave your hand and choose something from these promotions?
🔗
🔗
As I understand it, there is a choice between a steam in one and a door closer in the other. Can you advise on the choice
I don't have any substitutes for the oven now (after the move there won't be any). There are only multicooker and Panasonic. Some things can be baked, of course, but still not a complete replacement for the oven
Bijou
Quote: Nata333
As I understand it, there is a choice between a steam in one and a door closer in another
Do you understand how steam works there? And then something I am not very ... Pour water to the bottom and ... What does pressing the corresponding button?
If I ignore Par, then I’m behind Lux ​​with both hands - and prettier, and at least one telescope, and the program indication is not on metal, from where it is sometimes erased, but inside in the windows ... And the closer in it? But this is such a thing that AEG could simply forget to point out.
Nata333
Quote: Bijou
Do you understand how steam works there? And then something I am not very ... Pour water to the bottom and ... What does pressing the corresponding button?
Yes, intricate It looks like a built-in water dish. Maybe the fan somehow changes the work there?
They didn't say a word about the door closer and in the electrolux in the instructions either - only from the store description, which, in principle, cannot be sewn to business
But I would not pay attention to the inscription, thanks
Bijou
Quote: Nata333
But I would not pay attention to the inscription, thanks
Please.) When I was choosing an oven for myself many years ago, for some reason I got an opinion from shopping trips that outdoor temperature and program labels are used in cheaper models. That is, there are two ovens, but one has it drawn on top, the other has it inside like this outside the window, so the latter will certainly cost more. What Bosch, what Electrolux. I took it for myself with windows, although it is not very relevant for me - I have an oven installed at chest level. And whoever has it under the stove, there are complaints about the worn out inscriptions - they often have to wash, because the stove gets dirty faster.
Scarecrow
Quote: Nata333

Yes, intricate It looks like a built-in water dish. Maybe the fan somehow changes the work there?
They didn't say a word about the door closer and in the electrolux in the instructions either - only from the store description, which, in principle, cannot be sewn to business
But I would not pay attention to the inscription, thanks

Steam ovens usually have a container for water and a heater for that container. A special water plate at the bottom has a separate heater. Probably the button turns it on.
Nata333
After reading a few reviews in the topic that "it would be better if I did not save then and took it with pyrolysis" they still ordered an Electrolux EOC95651BX Electric Oven for 41t. r., and today I looked into the same store, and there she is still on the action, but at 50 tons. R. I hope when I pick it up in 2 days there will be no surprises
Thank you girls for sharing your impressions and operating experience
Olga VB
Girls, did anyone use the IKEA DSH?
Their "top" is KULINARISK (Electrolux). According to the descriptions, the characteristics seem to be good, but we have not yet been able to find real users.
Looked at different others, but for the same price other brands are less sophisticated.
Well, IKEA gives a 5-year warranty.
Here is puzzled.
Hey, does anyone know about Ikeev's DSHs or yes, well, them?
gribok
We have an electric oven - Asko OP8676S. I bought it half a year ago in a store specializing in built-in technology. This is our first electric oven, it comes with two trays, deep and not very deep, two wire racks. Off timer, sound timer. And - most importantly - he cooks excellently. And super simple - toss on a baking sheet, turn on the program and you are free! Here it is, nothing burns, everything is perfectly baked. Super function - Pyrolytic cleaning is the right thing! In principle, I am completely satisfied.
ksun4ik
Good day. I really need advice on the oven. I am currently doing repairs in the kitchen and the idea came to replace my built-in Gorenje BO 6330 DW, with a volume of 65 liters, with a smaller oven, in order to save money on electricity bills. the question arose: does the volume of the oven somehow affect its energy consumption? i.e. a small oven for 47 liters. volume will consume the same amount of electricity as 65 liters? help advice if anyone knows
Bijou
Quote: ksun4ik
the question arose: does the volume of the oven somehow affect its energy consumption? i.e. a small oven for 47 liters. volume will consume the same amount of electricity as 65 liters?
Most likely, if a small oven is not built-in, but a tabletop, then it will consume noticeably more full-fledged built-in. Especially if the latter is of high energy efficiency and has excellent thermal insulation.

I ought to get started and measure the consumption of my oven in one cycle.
ksun4ik
Most likely, if a small oven is not built-in, but a desktop one, then it will consume much more than a full-fledged built-in one. Especially if the latter is of high energy efficiency and has excellent thermal insulation.
hmm ..)) it turns out interestingly) and if a small built-in oven?)
Wit
Quote: Bellamy
Then, as far as I understand this is a large consumption of electricity, you will pay more for electricity ...

4 kW eats pyrolysis. They say it's cheap

Bijou
Quote: ksun4ik
and if the small oven is built-in?)
And then it probably costs so much that it is cheaper to overpay for electricity every month.
Umka
Wit, the oven you linked to is very cool !!!
mirtatvik
When I chose an electric oven for myself, I also thought about pyrolysis. I read different reviews on the Internet for a long time, looked for information. But I stopped not at pyrolysis, but at the catalytic version (I never regretted it). There are catalytic plates, which intensively decompose and absorb any byaka right during the operation of the oven. All the care is to wipe with a cloth. The plates can be changed as needed. I have not changed for five years, although I use the oven all the time.
I have a KAISER, built-in. I don’t know how it is now, but at that time the entire installation was assembled only in Germany.
Now I looked on the Internet - I was stunned. How they went up, however ...
Ludochek86
Goodnight. Can you please tell me who uses this kind of oven Gorenje BO635E20XG-M Electric Oven, why is it in operation? In the reviews in the store I read that some have a very loud fan ...


Added Tuesday 28 Jun 2016 8:59 pm

answer me, somebody ...
Ludochek86
I guess I'll be the first
ksun4ik
I have a Gorenje BO 6330 DW - yes, it makes a little noise. but I have nothing to compare with .. maybe this is normal))
Innushka
I have GORENJE BO 637 E24X, everything works fine and quietly)
Noa
Hello everyone. Has anyone used Ikeevsky ovens? I would like to know how they are? Is it worth taking an Ikeevsky oven, or is it better to look after something else?
pie
I have Ikeevskaya, with pyrolysis. bought quite recently, after several cooks in it I conclude that I like it)
Sens
Ikea itself does not produce ovens, the electrolux does for them


Added Thursday, 10 Nov 2016 00:33

Quote: patty

I have Ikeevskaya, with pyrolysis.
for 45t. R. why would she be bad ...
Noa
What is pyrolysis? Forgive me, if I wrote a wrong gas now, I don't understand electrical ones at all
zvezda
This is purification ... burning off all fats, etc. !! Although there are disadvantages .... you still need to clean up the combustion residues with your hands and a lot of energy is wasted. there is still a high temperature !!!
Tosha
I read your Wishlist-choices, went to look at the combi steamers ... Now I myself WANT ABAT combi steamer PKA 6-1 / 3P

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