Choosing an electric meat grinder

Yes of course. And a cube cutter too, plus 3 graters, 3 grates, sausages, kebe, cookies.
By the way, I looked that this upper part could also be aluminum for the Mulinex (I saw a cheaper model in the photo and there, indeed, everything is made of stainless steel, except for the part into which the auger is inserted and tightened with a nut (also aluminum).

Comparison of meat grinders Moulinex ME 6061 and Zelmer 986.83

TEST.TV: Moulinex and Zelmer meat grinders - who chops vegetables better?

Meat grinder Zelmer (Zelmer) 987 (80). Testing. Meat. (Zelmer 987 (80). Testing. Meat)

Noise check of meat grinders

testing meat grinders Zelmer 986 VS Philips HR2728.wmv

[Second video]

Second video Moulinex and Zelmer meat grinders - who chops vegetables better?
Zelmer bias against moulinex. Indeed, the mules are noisy (they wrote about this in the reviews that I read before buying. It is, but it does not bother me at all, plus the cord is not long, as elsewhere, this is the second minus pointed out). I can't add anything to these disadvantages for a couple of years of use, except that it is better not to put the cord in the compartment, since it can get stuck there).
Zelmer graters are "bad" in shape - should be conical so that vegetables do not scatter throughout the kitchen. About plastic I don't know the bushings. Is it really better for it to break down and then change it?

In the first video Moulinex ME 6061 is generally low-power - it's better not to buy such at all, drum-shaped graters are also useless.

Zelmer bias against moulinex

Basically, I don't care what they say about Mulinex, but 2 videos from different people say the same thing. I look at these videos as an outside observer.
And there are also videos comparing 4 models of similar meat grinders at once.

I can only confirm that the truth is told about the Zelmer, because I use this meat grinder, and not from the words of someone on the internet.

But the choice is yours. Each sandpiper praises its swamp, old wisdom See, compare and choose for yourself

Each sandpiper praises his swamp

Exactly

The photo "that side of the grate that adjoins the knife" caught my eye. And they are not the same, these sides, are there such notches that are not on either side?

I am now torn between smart and beautiful ?! :-)
I have a Zelmer meat grinder, because I needed a powerful and relatively quiet device for coarse meat / fish with bones, and a plastic sleeve that breaks when overloaded is only on hand, + a mill for cereals and spices. But the best iron would not hurt her. :-)
But I have a Moulinex vegetable cutter, separate, without a meat grinder. So I'm a fan of both brands.

But I have a vegetable cutter Moulinex

Are you satisfied with it?

Are you satisfied with it?

Extremely! She shreds me fresh salads almost every day.

Long chose the meat grinder. It is necessary to grind the grass, but I chose everything. I wrote to Philips. They replied with some amazing nonsense. Namely: they sent me a link to all their meat grinders, as if I myself cannot look. And I had a very specific question. After my answer, they sent me advice - to consider a certain model. Considered. Not that perfect.
Moulinex generally responded after a week. Amazing quickness. By that time I had already bought everything. And also - the model that they advised - not that.
I turned to another store. And one more.
In the last store, I was advised to buy a Dauken model. German firm. It seems like everything I need is stainless steel.
The meat grinder came. On the box It is written in English and Russian: tray - stainless steel.steel, case (what is considered a case?) - stainless steel. steel, forged knife, steel, screw - stainless steel.
But! The tray turned out to be made of aluminum (this was also discussed in the store). Now how do you believe everything else? The body is made of metal (where the auger is inserted), but although it is shiny, it is lightweight. In general, deception ...

And I liked Zelmer's interchangeability of trays from a meat grinder and a mill. I rarely twist meat and do without a tray, it is stored somewhere in a box on antrnsols, because it’s a pity to take a place in the cabinet for it, but I often use a mill and usually with a tray, and recently I discovered that this funnel tray is also on the meat grinder is ideal. :-)

I have no complaints about the new Dauken meat grinder (2620): everything was cleaned well, nothing got dirty. Metal gears. Doesn't jump. She coped with the grass very quickly. Especially does not thunder. But why cheat? If the tray is aluminum, say so! What metal - tell the truth, why write lies? And what about the case, what is it actually made of? Because it is not cheap at all, and there are no attachments for cutting vegetables in the kit, only grates and plastic pieces for kebbe and sausages. Plastic on a plastic pusher. And it smells like. Not very important for grass, but still.
I learned about Zelmer from the video, where the mill was used. For grinding dry stems, it seems. I also wanted her at first.

The photo "that side of the grate that adjoins the knife" caught my eye. And they are not the same, these sides, are there such notches that are not on either side?

Until you start using the meat grinder, all sides are one. Then one of them is better rubbed against the knife. But this is if the grill is inserted only one side. Initially, both sides of the grate are ground equally well to the knife. So, in fact, everything is one. But, perhaps, there are still those that are lapped with only one side. Then, in theory, you can't insert them in another way.

Girls, boys, I bought myself an Axion M 41.02 meat grinder in August, brought it to the village, yesterday I decided to grind the meat for minced meat, the turkey went off with a bang, and when I started the beef (neck), something snapped in the meat grinder and smelled like fried, in general more the auger does not spin, on the trail. I'm taking it for a week
Now I don’t know how to be, what to take, or again an axion, though now I’m afraid, or something else, I don’t want Boshik, I have it, I now live in the city, I don’t really love him, he’s so loud and "scary" howls when the meat is sinewy .. though the axion did not howl, but immediately broke on the neck films

the smell of burning

How is it that the Axion also has plastic bushings to break?

So there from the films the plastic sleeve broke. If the new knife with a lattice were twisted and not pushed through, then everything would be fine. I had a new knife with a grate (which came with a new meat grinder), only meat without veins and skins was rotated normally, and the rest was pushed through. I wrote to the plant, described the situation and they sent me a new knife with a lattice (price about 140 rubles), replaced it with a new set, now everything is clearly scrolling, and not pushing.

[girls]

Not girls, the bushing is intact, I checked it, new ones are included in the set, it's not a problem to replace it, I'm still an engineer by training, and first of all I checked the bushing And inside, until I get it under warranty, something grunt inside And by the way, the knife is there OK, I looked at the same thing and gave it to my husband, he is our main grinder, he said a normal knife, the fit to the grate is tight ... well, in general, I now need a mea-grinder in a trance, desperately, an old hand-made Soviet one, for the joy of buying I wanted so much that I can't find it, I was left without a meat grinder "from the word at all"

Umenya, too, the sleeve on Zelmera flew, twisted the minced beef neck.
I have had a meat grinder for 4 years and the bushing broke four times.

So I also immediately smelled burning, and I did not twist it even for a minute after clicking No, virgins, something broke inside, the bushing is normal

[Buttercup]

It's good that I haven't read such a review before.
It's not the first year I have Axion, maybe 3-4. Bushings break, probably 5 pieces already.
Buttercup, in every company there is a marriage, it's a shame ... But I would buy Axion again

Midea worked at my sister's for several years under a huge load, when she burned down she also took Axion, but it did not work out to compare well, she bought an industrial one. Axion is rarely used

My mom's got a Brown one hundred years ago. Any meat, any veins down to the bone grinds. My brother and I gave it 15 years ago, maybe even more. I don't remember where I got the information from (one of the consultants in the store said either at work or read it), but the meat grinder needs to be chosen, paying attention to the NOMINAL power (and for some reason this info is very classified). On this and guided by the choice. Mom's meat grinder has a rated power of 800 W, and as far as I know, more than 800 does not exist in nature.

the electric meat grinder has two powers: maximum and nominal. The rated power is the one with which the motor works for a long time without overloading in normal mode. A meat grinder in this mode can work no more than 15 minutes, after which it needs a long rest. The maximum peak power is the one at which the meat grinder for a short time (strictly specified by the manufacturer, usually no more than a minute) can process solid foods (such as frozen, stringy meat or when the auger meets a bone) without damage to the engine.

Some consultants fell into a stupor when asked about the nominal power. The ambush is still hidden in the screaming inscriptions on the boxes: "... power of 2200W ... All super-duper". BUT this is the total power, and the nominal can be only 200 watts out of these 2200!

It seems to me that the rated power is the most important point to which you need to pay attention, and then, the device of knives, noise, etc.

This is not the first year I have Axion, maybe 3-4. Bushings break, probably 5 pieces already.

I have Axion about 7. And the bushings have never broken.

But I would buy Axion again

I would also. And I would take the 3rd series. Once I read a review that the third is the most reliable, and the fourth is damp

Axion's nominal 200W, it says on the bottom, on other meat grinders even less than 700, this is generally a beast, I can't even imagine ..
Yesterday I went to Axion's website, read it, thought, and decided ... to push the choice onto my husband. Moreover, he said that he would look at it himself, and he was very good at my technique, so I will hand over this one and take time out .. I'm still black I looked at the French moulinex, it is at a nominal value of 220W, but I did not decide anything, I will wait for my husband's resume

[Mandraik Ludmila]

Mandraik Ludmila, Moulinex are noisy. In terms of volume, Zelmer is a great fellow, he works quietly, I grind coarse meat, chicken backs and fish with bones and head on mine.

There is no zelmer in the ozone, but if the husband says zelmer, then we will buy a zelmer where I can find

I also looked at the black French moulinex, it is rated at 220W

You looked at the wrong moulinex - my meat grinder has a par value of 800 (they have many different models).

my meat grinder at par 800

Where I looked, there are no such powerful ones Until I stop looking, since my husband said, then he will choose

And they still have production in France, and there is China (it is necessary to look additionally).

I would also. And I would take the 3rd series. Once I read a review that the third is the most reliable, and the fourth is damp

And where is it written on the Axion meat grinder (packaging) that this is series 3?

And where is it written on the Axion meat grinder (packaging) that this is series 3?

I did not write quite correctly: not the third, but the thirtieth. I meant that the model number starts with a three.
Of course, the box I have no longer survived, but the model number is on the meat grinder itself - either on the side of the case, or on the nameplate at the bottom. Now I'm not at home, I can't look.

made in France

Yes, I drew attention to this, I could not resist in Eldorado and watched the M-video, there is a better choice, they write the power of 800W, made in France, though there are only 2 gratings ... and it is possible with graters, or without, I myself I do not choose, I have more and more, more .. Let the husband suffer. It's easier for me, he said and bought it, I use it, though it rarely happens with kitchen appliances, usually I make the decision myself, the Bread Maker helps, I just had no luck with Axion.
And these Moulinexes, I'll go and feel in the city, look at the bottom of what is written, otherwise they write France, and somewhere in the corner there may still be China, I have already encountered such a move. We have an M-video next to the house, I periodically buy equipment there, so I bought an xp-panasik there at a discount ...
What I saw of the 3rd series is now done in China, I am already guided by 62 ..., apparently the sixth series

just no luck with Axion.

Apparently, yes, the marriage somehow burned out, and did not break.
I was either lucky, or the meat was such that I actually put the meat grinder in the pantry: neither the attachment for the boshu mum5, nor the Lepse which I bought because of the coffee grinder with the intention of using it as a mill have not upset anything. I'm even thinking about trying the sausage attachment? And then the meat grinder in the pantry has no speeds - they could not even get used to it in 4 hands. And all desire disappeared.

I'll look at the bottom of what is written, otherwise they write France, and somewhere in the corner China may end up, I have already encountered such a move.

No, it is written there both on the product itself and on the box, everything is large and clearly visible. I have their mixer-blender, by the way, made in China (I'm not complaining yet), but the inscriptions on the case are erased. And on Teskom's coffee maker, which I have been using for many years and which is also made in China, although this is a Slovenian brand, as far as I remember, the inscriptions are almost erased. I don't like this because both the mixer and the coffee maker look like mongrels.

[LiudmiLka]

written both on the product itself and on the box, everything is large and clearly visible

LiudmiLka, so this is on yours, but in other models, everything must be checked

I bought a coffee maker here, the site says Germany, they brought it - at the bottom it says China, of course I wrote them a complaint and they corrected it in the description, but not nice. Even at first I wanted to take it back, then as I imagined it: to take it from the village to the city, then to buy another, all the same, China will be taken back to the village ... well, I use a normal coffee maker, such a crap, but it is too big for us for two. .. If Germany did not write, China would calmly take a smaller displacement

My 5 kopecks - I bought 3 vtuoki-pack for aksyusha - this whole pack smiled for about 15 minutes, climbed to look for my own box, where the bushings from the kit remained, put it - ok. Apparently the storage is wrong of these bushings or traffic or old ones already. ... seemingly normal. They cost 120 rubles in the store, but it's a pity to change them more time: lol

[kartinka]

kartinka, bushings are native branded and Chinese fakes. You have to ask when buying, usually sellers say whose production, and in price they are very different.

I handed over my unsuccessful Axion, then while I'm sitting waiting for my husband's decision ...

On viulkas logo - axion,

Hello! Please advise a reliable meat grinder that can handle raw chicken bones

[KMASYA]

KMASYA, I have Zelmer, she takes heads and backs, blue whiting with bones too, only I haven't tried chicken paws.

[KMASYA]

KMASYA, I have a Leran meat grinder, I bought to turn chicken heads, it suits me!

I have Axion about 7 years old and the bushings have never broken.

Jinxed And the bushing is intact, but apparently some kind of gear inside has broken.
When I twisted the minced meat, I decided to add Hercules. There was already no time to soak it, and she was too lazy - I hoped at random and sprinkled dry cereals. My Axionchik howled, grunted and stood up tightly. When I took it apart later, I barely pulled out this Hercules - well, clean cement was found.
Now I think what to replace. The repair is probably unprofitable, because a new meat grinder of the same costs 2.5 - 3 tons.

[Biryusa]

Biryusa, Olya, did you turn it on later? I had such a time. I don't remember what I was playing, Aksyusha suddenly froze. He stood a little and changed his mind.

[Sasha55]

Sasha55, Sasha, yes, it did. She twisted without load, and skidded with load.
But, in general, the alarm turned out to be false: after all, it was a safety sleeve that flew. I thought that in case of overload, the outer teeth would break, but it turned out that there are four inner teeth in it (which are fixed in the grooves of the shaft). Here they were cut with a knife.
I replaced everything, everything works.
So Axionchik did not disappoint.
By the way, about the bushings: they must be original and have a stamped inscription "Axion" on the end.

it turned out that it has four internal

Yes, so they fly ... and not outside ...

Yes, so they fly ... and not outside ...

It was the first broken bushing in seven years. I think this is a good indicator of reliability. And even then the breakdown was due to my stupidity. Well, well, now I'll be more careful.

Moreover, the sleeve is intact, but apparently some kind of gear inside has broken.

I saw all sorts of gears for sale on Ali just for Axion.
Can you find a handy neighbor?

Here to dig, who needs it.

Can you find a handy neighbor?

you have it ...

Jinxed And the bushing is intact, but apparently some kind of gear inside has broken.
When I twisted the minced meat, I decided to add Hercules. There was already no time to soak it, and she was too lazy - I hoped at random and sprinkled dry cereals. My Akstonchik howled, grunted and stood up tightly. When I took it apart later, I barely pulled out this Hercules - well, clean cement was found.
Now I think what to replace. The repair is probably unprofitable, because a new meat grinder of the same costs 2.5 - 3 tons.

I once had Brown grunt like that)) I decided to grind the rolled oats for flour

When they came for a new meat grinder (the parts were weakened), I wanted to buy a Brown 1500 (I had 1300). But the seller also told me about the rated power. That Brown 1500, although more powerful, but their rated power is the same as mine, and there is no point in overpaying. I bought model 1300 again. That is, since 1998 I have had 2 Brown meat grinders, the first is 8 years old, and the second is still. I licked my lips at the advertised models that appeared (that's how Kaso was promoted on the forum!)), Then I decided that they were not looking for good from good.
I wanted to go to the Axion dacha - I also read the topic, but suddenly I bought the upper part from the brown in the service (I still have the motor part) - it turned out to be cheaper, and more proven by my own experience). Now I have 2 Brown 1300))

And I'm not overjoyed at the Kirov meat grinder Gamma. So far she has been with me for two years, but she has been plowing ... Any meat, though I haven’t tried bones, but the sinewy twists with a bang, the juicer attachment is lovely, before I remember manual twisting tomatoes, graters, a mill. Everything works great. I bought it in a store at the factory, in addition I collected all sorts of bushings for a stock, but I haven’t needed it yet. And considering the price of the complete set, it's so lovely. I don't remember when Kenwood got it.

[Annutka]

Annutka, for some reason I also removed the more powerful meat grinder with the advent of Gamma. Although there are graters and a juicer in it, which she did not take for Gamma because she was unnecessary to me, she did not even try it in the old meat grinder. I took it like a bv because of the mill, but it turned out that more often than not, either it is in use, or nozzles for Bosch.