Marpl
At first, Axion also often pressed the meat, but I wrote to the manufacturers and they sent me other knives. Now everything scrolls fine and not squeezes out.
caprice23
Quote: Loksa
well, the neck can be frozen, only this way the sinewy meat is given to the meat grinder. Thinness is not always straight veins, it can be a greasy "toffee", etc.
Freezing, yes, it works, but this method does not suit me. I want it right away: I bought it, cut it, scrolled it.

Yes, this greasy "toffee" just clogs the grate.




Quote: Marpl
At first, Axion also often pressed the meat, but I wrote to the manufacturers and they sent me other knives. Now everything scrolls fine and not squeezes out.
Oh, so interesting. But I bought a meat grinder for a long time, it probably won't work.
Svetlenki
Quote: caprice23
probably won't work

I would like to try. Or I would take the knives to sharpen. But you also need to be able to sharpen. Meat grinder knives and scissors, it seems to me, special professionalism is needed.
Marpl
caprice23, Natasha., but you can write to them, because they do not require a check. Just describe your problem with knives, I was quickly answered and offered to send a new set of knives.
caprice23
Marina, and this is where you wrote to them?
Marpl
Here are the coordinates on their website, email them.

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caprice23
Marina, Thank you. I will try
Yarik
caprice23, Natasha, we have a chain of butcher shops, an uncle comes to them on certain days and sharpens knives for them, I wore mine, but you have to carry knives and grates. Maybe you have one?
Masha Ivanova
In my opinion, such uncles also go to hairdressers.
caprice23
Yaroslavna, Elena, I don't know if we have such. Nearby there is a butcher's shop, I’ll go and ask. Thank you.
Olekma
Quote: caprice23

Rita, here at the same axion arise. There are many veins in the neck. And she doesn't really like to twist lard. Clogged.
I do not agree with you, I love Axion and recommend it precisely because she can handle both veins and fat. I twist mostly dry and very sinewy elk meat, I don't have anything else, I live in the taiga. For urgency, you have to add fat, Axion copes for 5+, it does not clog, after use it remains clean, well, except on knives after 8kg of minced meat, a few days ago I just twisted so much elk, a pinch of veins remained.




Quote: Marpl

At first, Axion also often pressed the meat, but I wrote to the manufacturers and they sent me other knives. Now everything scrolls fine and not squeezes out.
I realized that Axion does not press the meat, you need to twist it well, usually if I see that it is pressing, I untwist it, clean it and twist it again well.




caprice23, you can simply buy a spare set of knives and grates on their website. They are on free sale.
caprice23
So all the same, my knives are dull. To begin with, I will look for where to sharpen.
It is a pity that its volume during operation will not decrease from this in any way.Etozh should shout so loudly
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

try to fix it yourself on the skin, just so that the surface is even
julia_bb
caprice23, if there is a household, something in this spirit, then find out, they can sharpen knives there too.
I still came across an advertisement in some grocery Internet store - "Sharpening knives for free", or Platypus, or Delicateska
lira3003
Quote: Olekma
I realized that Axion does not press the meat, you need to twist it well, usually if I see that it is pressing, I unwind it, clean it and twist it again well.
There is such a thing. I did not notice, my husband immediately saw and said to wrap up more abruptly.
And to make it work quieter, try to put something under it. It's noisy for me too, but I don't twist it with carcasses, so it's not very annoying
Helen
Quote: lira3003
wrap up more abruptly.
The meat grinder is great, in vain caprice23, Natasha, you swear at her ... I personally, I replaced the knife and the grate with stainless steel (rubbing, rubbing was straining, and rust still appeared) ... and then the muSH collected it after drying, and then another time when she began to twist the meat she chews. .. I don’t understand what’s the matter, untwisted ... collected .. for pulled ... and everything went fine ... I needed eye to eye, for these guys, but at the expense of the noise, yes, but I had Kenwood, so it's even louder ...

fedorovna1
Thank you all for your feedback on the Axion meat grinder! I bought it and I'm very happy !!! The meat turns perfectly on the smallest wire rack.
julia_bb
fedorovna1, congratulations on your purchase and Happy Birthday! An excellent meat grinder, I also have an Axion. What is your model and color?
fedorovna1
julia_bb, I have a meat grinder Axion M 41.02. White! Thank you!!!
Masha Ivanova
fedorovna1, Tatyana! Happy Birthday to you!
I have the same. On the advice of the forum in general and one specific forum post.
Super meat grinder!
valjushka
Good evening! Can you please tell me manual meat grinders in this thread too? I don’t find any information on them, but I urgently needed it!
kartinka
valjushka, and what with the manual can be wrong? they seem to be all the same .... sharpen the knife / grate, if that's all ...
valjushka
There are many reviews that metal shavings, you have to grind, notches, parts do not fit well, etc.
kartinka
valjushka, can still look at an electric meat grinder, look for a discount or for Avito, but still manually twist -... it's hard, if it's not critical, there are times when people buy, and then it turns out that it is duplicated by other devices (I Now I'm twisting the meat in the kitchen assistant), and I have a meat grinder for tea.
Look at the same axion - very good meat grinder
valjushka
Quote: kartinka

valjushka, can still look at the electric meat grinder, look for a discount or for Avito, but still manually twist it -... it's hard, if it's not critical, there are times when people buy, and then it turns out that it is duplicated by other devices (I Now I'm twisting the meat in the kitchen assistant), and I have a meat grinder for tea.
Look at the same axion - very good meat grinder
I have an electric one, but I really need a manual one in order to quietly twist and small quantities.
kartinka
valjushka, I don’t know, you have to look at the place in the stores so that it is made with high quality. I won't say anything about a manual grinder, I have an ordinary manual meat grinder, it seems to be normal, she is years old ... I live with her all my life, even my mother's ... although the knives and the grate are sharpened (just in case)
Svetlenki
I would like to ask you for your feedback on the "Hostess" MEB-01 electric meat grinder. Are there owners? Do you like it? I watched the video on YouTube and was very impressed with the sound of the meat grinder - it’s correct, as for me.

I will be grateful to everyone who responded
Nathalte
I never bought myself a meat grinder, again in the throes of choice. Please tell me if you need a reverse? And can anyone compare the gamut with the axion? It is in terms of a meat grinder. And yes, is the sausage attachment often used, is it convenient or is it better to use a manual sausage syringe
Olga 61
Quote: Nathalte

I never bought myself a meat grinder, again in the throes of choice. Please tell me if you need a reverse?

I have a Panasonic meat grinder. ... There is no reverse. As it was a little embarrassing. But I looked at comparative reviews of all kinds of meat grinders and decided to buy just Panasonic. Compact, simple and without any attachments. I didn't chase them. He works calmly, chews everything delicately, but all the meat in a row. I never remembered the reverse, because there was no need. Poultry meat with skin and fish with bones and skin, bacon, everything grows grumpy. When I disassemble, there are no special veins on the knife. For myself, I concluded that if the knives are good and the machine copes, why then need a reverse. Once I ground the leaves for tea. When she could not cope, she passed out herself. On the leaves, people and manual ones broke meat grinders, decided not to tempt fate. Self-sharpening knives. I have been using it for 2 years, I have never sharpened it. I have my own farm, my husband is a fisherman. The meat grinder is often in business.On other questions I will not answer, I do not know.
Lanna
Quote: Nathalte
Can anyone compare a gamut with an axion?
Natasha, recently chose a meat grinder, and stopped at Axion again (a couple of years ago I also chose it, but did not buy it then, since it was from Zelmer herself, from Moulinex's mother).
Gamma felt - she didn't like something about her then and now. We carry axions everywhere - it means more reliable, spare parts for it are cheap at every corner. The nozzle is convenient, we stuff sausages on Zelmera together with my husband. You will be manual.
I chose a complete set 41.02, a juicer and graters included.
I sometimes use the reverse if I skip the leaves for fermentation or the meat is not of very good quality.
Nathalte
Olga, Thank you. I don't consider Panas primarily because of the price, besides, I know that I will need a meat grinder once every couple of months)
Svetlana, and 41.02 is the most complete? It seems like the duplicating technique is complete, but it still seems that you need to take everything))
julia_bb
Nathalte, in the spring I took Axion in the minimum configuration, there is a reverse, but I have not used it yet. There is Moulinex, I sent him to the dacha, the volume of Axion is not louder than him. Rust-free blades and grate.
Choosing an electric meat grinder
Katenysh
I have already written about the purchase of Axion 61.03 (complete set with graters). After two months of use, I can say that the meat grinder is super! The beast, swallows any meat, thawed too))) I do not have time to throw the meat) I tried graters on vegetable preparations - just class! Fast and powerful meat grinder. Recommend.
Crown
Axion is a good meat grinder, but very loud.
If the noise level is fundamental, then I recommend Zelmer, it also comes with all sorts of different vegetable graters, juicers and mills. After the reverse, it happens that a couple more spoons of minced meat come out. This is convenient on coarse meat, otherwise my dogs are toothless. :-)




I had one discrepancy with Zelmer - the branded Zelmer macaroni nozzle does not fit my more perfect model. My meat grinder has a larger diameter. :-(
Lanna
Quote: Nathalte
and 41.02 is the most complete?
Natasha, yes if memory serves, it is))
The graters in Axion are definitely inferior to Zelmer, he is an order of magnitude better in everything, and I like the bushing system in him, and the graters are super-convenient for seasonal blanks - the metal is strong, not such a thin tin as in Axion. But the price for Zelmer is now helicopter (
So Axion, both in terms of spare parts and in terms of price and quality, is a normal option, if, moreover, frequent use is not planned.
Tashenka
I will not give offense to Axiosh !!! He plows me, like a galley slave! And the meat, when there is, even sinewy beef, instantly grinds, and tea, and shredders during the harvesting period. I hardly ever use a juicer. And they all make noise. I put a silicone mat and the noise subsided. Over the years, only one gear was changed several years ago, when I twisted the leaves for tea without freezing (then we did not have this method here yet).
All those whom I advised say thank you.
OlgaGera
caprice23, Natasha, dealt with the meat grinder? Have you bought it?
Your problem is familiar.
Natasha, I have a Panasonic MK-G1800. 10 years already. There is a reverse, but I do not use it. Not needed like that. I will not say that she is quiet, but she copes with meat with a bang. 5 kg of meat in about 5 minutes. It is not necessary to cut finely. I cut into large strips. Plows like a professional sometimes. But only meat. The rest is kitchenade. I take it out when I need to make a lot of minced meat at once. Look this way
the disadvantage is to wash new nets and a knife from the smell.
caprice23
Quote: OlgaGera
figured it out with a meat grinder? Have you bought it?
No, I never bought it. I gave the axion to my mother. While I use the meat grinder attachment for kitschen. Yesterday I just twisted the meat of a kilogram 3. In principle, I do not twist more at a time. There was turkey fillet and veinless pork. And lard separately. The fat froze a little. Kitchen coped with all this without any problems.
But if you twist the neck or cutlet meat, then it starts to suffer. It's hard for him.

So far, the purchase of a meat grinder has been pushed back a little. I can't understand what I want.How to buy good meat and spin it kitsch for me without any problems, I think, and I don't need something else. And as I suffer with sinewy meat, the search for a meat grinder begins.
Mom has an axion, but she does not use it at all. I'm even thinking, since she doesn't need it, I can take it back and give him a second chance. Sharpen knives, etc.




Quote: OlgaGera
5 kg of meat in about 5 minutes.
Oh, how cool. Kitchen never dreamed of this




Quote: OlgaGera
But only meat. The rest is kitchenade.
I don't understand, but what about the rest?
OlgaGera
Quote: caprice23
I don't understand, but what about the rest?
And what will come across))) Fruit.
Quote: caprice23
Oh how cool
1.6 kg per minute
Quote: caprice23
give him a second chance. Sharpen knives, etc.
Maybe it really is. Helen gave a website with spare parts, and then there was a video of how to sharpen knives. I'll find it.

Quote: Helen

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Quote: Anchic

Natasha, my husband sharpens like that

Sofita
Svetlenki, You have not yet decided on the choice of a new meat grinder? Yesterday I didn’t read about the repair of electric meat grinders, then on the Internet I found an interesting recipe about tomato paste in 40 minutes I really wanted to cook it right away, but I turned off the brakes in my head completely: According to the recipe, in a meat grinder, scroll 7 kg of tomato and kg of bell pepper, everything in a saucepan + 1 st / a spoonful of salt and everything in two pots and on the stove, then put an iron strainer in a saucepan over the rubbed tomatoes and scoop the juice into another separate pan after boiling with a ladle, after 40 minutes, use a blender to make mashed potatoes from the boiled pasta with a blender, and then you can roll it up into jars, I put it all in silicone molds and in the freezer.
The recipe is certainly super, but in my meat grinder it cannot be done (not noisy, it works easily with meat and a lot without problems, outside even a pretty one bought in March 2016 for 12000r (now 6tr with something) but there are so many gross flaws in it !! And today, at last, she died! And in my head I realized that the tomatoes probably wouldn’t pull and buzzed unusually, but I couldn’t stop myself even mentally, she was so tired with her minuses. On the second kg of tomatoes, there was a flash inside and a loud pop I knocked out all the sockets! After turning on the sockets, it no longer turned on. In the blender I quickly tightened the rest - I really wanted to test the recipe, I scooped up about 3 liters of boiled juice (it turned out to be very tasty), the pasta itself is already in the freezer in the form of frozen tablets!
Bottom line: the recipe is super! I liked the finished pasta in 40 minutes (you can twist it into jars, for lazy ones, just freeze it in silicone molds and pour it into a bag.
I washed the meat grinder and I will give someone two options: they want to repair it themselves, or the attachments will suit someone, but they are not even bad. I deliberately do not name the name, their equipment is complete shit for this reason, they were once even flooded from a large network, they took all sorts of containers from them, which does not apply to technology. Well, I still don't want to upset those who bought something from them, let them rejoice as long as this technique lasts.
Crown
Sofita, judging by the price, it was Bork, their prices are always brutally high. :-)
Twig
Sofita, try new technology (Helen taught me recently)
Tomatoes, peppers (in my recipe, both onions and apples, and carrots - and periodically in the form of a cake after a screw juicer), arbitrarily large pieces are put into a slow cooker. Vegetables or stewing program.
There is no need to dance near the pot. You can leave it at night.
Then put on a sieve what has been boiled in the cartoon. The juice is stacked, we pour it into a bottle.
We wipe the remaining mass on the sieve (I have a Kenwood nozzle), there is no sit blender to help.
And one more nuance - the most adorable, again I remember and thank Helen for the advice
Anything that has not been grated by the sieve is sent to the nutribullet, filled with strained juice, poured and either into molds in the freezer for borscht, or into our sauce.
Again in a slow cooker, boiled (under the lid and can spit, but we are not afraid) - on the banks and that's it. Done. Stands in the apartment.
Everything is easy and simple, without unnecessary dancing near the meat grinder.
And without boiling and evaporation while stirring.




The scale, of course, is more modest, not a 7 kg tomato. But you can also cook it twice (I am now preparing the third portion of the sauce)
Sofita
Crown, no, not them, although I don't like them at all, prices are really very high. The imported Brent knows these and this is all the import, beautiful design, very decent packaging, recipes are not very good - but beautifully designed from good paper. Outwardly, everything is pretty, but only at first glance, in general, dust in the eyes. The joy collapsed after the courier left, a very serious defect was found, the outer washer was polished on the outside, and inside there were so sharp curves notches like a saw sticking out, they cut my fingers, everyone who saw was shocked. They did not want to return the money under any pretext at all (whatever got to them, it disappeared), although the next day and for a month negotiations were conducted with them - everything is useless, such outrageous. Then I had to apply (to bother someone because of this stupidity, it was very inconvenient / well, in the sense that I was interested in such a small firm, but it was a matter of principle and 1 month of nerves). Only after that they called back and offered to exchange for any other in their warehouse. And in the warehouse, the warehouse itself was shocked in the industrial territory in the Angara in the mud and right on the ground on some trees there are such pretty boxes, they have colorful gazelles carrying cargo around Moscow like this. The legs of the grinder stain the table as black as Chinese slippers, oak cord. From a pile of boxes I hardly chose one with smaller teeth, shoveled a bunch of boxes. And these are the best samples in their opinion. Made in China. But what a Brand! here's a story ...
Detailed history to be careful before buying something.




Twig, now it turns out that I suddenly have two tasks:
1 buy a pretty noiseless meat grinder without unnecessary unnecessary attachments.
2 buy a good quality auger juicer.
We'll have to carefully approach this issue.
Thanks for the recipe, I will definitely try, I need to get some pretty tomatoes in time.
Svetlenki
Quote: Sofita
Have you decided on the choice of a new meat grinder yet?

Choy something to me on you and even with a capital letter? Where am I wrong? Really, how convenient. I myself often cannot "jump" from "you".

I already have a meat grinder, I am very happy with it. Quiet and powerful.

I've already shown it

KitchenAid Mixer # 1679
Sofita
Svetlenki, I love capital proud letters very much, so you always write with a proud letter, meaning respectfully. Can the diameter of the gratings be measured for Jupiter? The meat grinder is pretty, I'll go and study what is included in it.
Svetlenki
Quote: Sofita
Can the diameter of the gratings be measured for Jupiter?

Sofita, 6 cm. And a proud 5 mm thickness. metal obviously did not regret it (knocked out INOX)

Choosing an electric meat grinder

You know, I once found an absolute analogue of Jupiter for one forum member. I think that these meat grinders are made by some factory, which does not mind that someone else's logo was hung on its products. For example, a couple of years ago it was marketed as Matfer. This is a very serious French professional culinary (more confectionery) brand.
Sofita
Svetlenki, but you can take a photo of the lattice directly to see the hole for which to cling. Yeah, 6 cm is good, the height / thickness is also similar, maybe a little higher than 5.5 mm. I haven't found it on sale with Jupiter yet, I'll look for it, I don't want to get on a rumble, I'm already used to the quiet one.
Svetlenki
Quote: Sofita
I really don't want to get on the rumble

I give a tooth that she is quiet. I hate noise.

Quote: Sofita
to see the hole to cling to

why cling? Housing with auger in a block with a motor?

Choosing an electric meat grinder
Sofita
Svetlenki, so the inlet for the auger is not plastic, good. I say, I am not very attentive today - I did not write the request very accurately: I need a photograph of the grilles, it was in profile, now right to see a recess on the grill for installation, well, if you look at the grill directly or to see the pattern of holes.
caprice23
Quote: Sofita
And in my head I understood that the tomatoes probably would not pull and buzzed unusually
I never thought that tomatoes are such a problem for meat grinders ... This is the first time I hear about this. Why did they not please? Why can't you twist?

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