Coffee machine

[Irina F]

Irina FIra, in my opinion, the coffee turns out to be good and tasty:
1.if the coffee machine is adjusted well
2.if fresh! good coffee

I changed the strength in the settings from normal to light, the grinding is the largest. Bitterness anyway.

I'll call the service, thanks. I'll also try to buy some other coffee. Although it’s definitely not the case, the pack started and at first he was normal, Lavazza. I always take it.

[$ vetLana]

$ vetLana, The 2600 does not have this impeller, they started to install it only from the 29.510 model. If I understand you correctly, is it just that the grain is not getting into the grinder? If yes, then the grain simply sticks to the hopper itself, I myself have encountered this problem on many Delongue machines (I am a fan of strong roasting, as a result of which more oily grains) The coffee grinder and the adhering grains to the hopper are not interrelated in any way) so changing the degrees of grinding will not help)) )



proshka, Did you wipe the water supply unit inside? It is located inside the top left, you need to look inside the coffee machine through the door) What you washed is the brewing mechanism - as an option, you can unscrew the bolt on the strainer. PS Nothing will pop up there, and anyone will collect it. There may also be coffee residues under the strainer. I don't see any other reasons ... Most likely the coffee cake is stuck somewhere.



Irina F, This is a philosophical question) If there are several components of good coffee) Grain, type of water and the device) If everything is less clear with grain and water, then there are many nuances in machines) 1 Type of coffee grinder (ceramics, steel) 2 Water heating temperature 3 Brewing mechanism ... Everything else in coffee machines is more or less the same. Not an advertisement, but my top list of coffee machines)
1 Delonghi - any machine, the main thing is to correctly set the grind, water temperature and find your favorite grain. I used a variety of Delonghi models. In my opinion, this is the most versatile car in terms of customization to taste. The peculiarities are high coffee saturation and possible bitterness due to incorrect settings.
2 Jura is a very good coffee, it has a softer taste in contrast to delongue. But! If Delonghi - almost everyone brews coffee in the same way, it is not always so with the Jurassic. There are certain difficulties with cleaning.
3 Saeco, Melitta - Tastes like Jura. but the coffee is less intense.
4 Bosch, Krups on the principle of coffee for everybody, but for me the taste is too weak and watery in these machines

Everything I wrote is based on personal taste, the coffee tasted the same. The water used was about the same. I do not hide, the user of 2 delongi coffee machines.




Sorry for the long post. Today they will bring me freshly roasted coffee) I selected the most balanced taste, less acidity, medium bitterness) Today I will try ecam28.464 and etam36.365 in Delonghi)

[NikoVazovski]

NikoVazovski, washed the knot, unscrewed the strainer and it was quite clean there. Wiped the water supply unit.
And she did the decalcification, although she did not ask for it yet.
This morning I tried to make coffee - on a light taste and a grind of 6 - bitterness anyway. I left and now after the May holidays I will do it. Still, I suspect that it is often idle due to my absence, and there is something stagnant and rancid. Although I washed everything.

[proshka]

proshka, A very strange situation, by its design there are only a few places left that can affect the quality ... These are the coffee supply pipes and the nozzles themselves. You can, of course, turn on forced flushing ... we have 2 cars in our office with 8 thousand cups of coffee, another 12 thousand cups, at my house 1 thousand with a friend of 500 cups, of course the cars brew a little differently. But no specific bitterness is felt. I'll still think about what it can be and how to solve it.

[NikoVazovski]

NikoVazovski, thanks for helping me figure it out. After the holidays, I'll take care of her.

Well, the bitterness is such that it is generally impossible even with milk. And this is the coffee that Lavazza cream of aroma has always taken, in my opinion, that is the name, I am not at home now and I cannot look at the pack. And he always has a mild taste without hateful sourness. He was never bitter. And the settings for it were always - normal taste, grind 3 and everything was fine.

[Irina F]

Irina F,
4 Bosch, Krups on the principle of coffee for everybody, but for me the taste is too weak and watery in these machines

Everything I wrote is based on personal taste, the coffee tasted the same. The water used was about the same. I do not hide, the user of 2 delongi coffee machines.




Sorry for the long post. Today they will bring me freshly roasted coffee) I selected the most balanced taste, less sourness, medium bitterness) Today I will try ecam28.464 and etam36.365 in Delonghi)

NikoVazovski, here! That's right, and I have a feeling that the coffee is watery! What is not voluminous chtoli, not saturated, in a word, none! Although, friends come and always ask me to make them delicious coffee)
And by the way, for me the feeling of bad taste in coffee does not depend on the choice of grain. Whichever grain I choose, coffee from my car is not tasty for me. From this I concluded that the matter is in the technical capabilities of the machine.
NikoVazovski, share then the feelings of your choice.



I looked at the Delonghi ecam 28.464 machine. What can I say? Impressed)
Price, really too)

[NikoVazovski]

NikoVazovski, because you are from St. Petersburg, share (you can in a personal, as you prefer) where to buy good coffee. I understand that everyone has different tastes. I have a choice: chain stores (there is nothing there) and Ozone. I will be very grateful
You can continue in this Temka. And we will revive it just
Coffee talk .. # 122

[proshka]

proshka, try to brew coffee from a coffee machine in a Turk, maybe it's some kind of left coffee after all.

[$ vetLana]

$ vetLana, on the issue of freshly roasted coffee I will write here, but then you can move on to that topic) I am a new person on this forum) Therefore, I did not write everywhere in the group, along the way I sit in the topic about Kenwood kitchen machines)
I want to immediately dot over And dot. What I will write below is my personal opinion, I do not consider myself a great coffee expert, and my knowledge may differ from the truth. But I know something about coffee.
Within the framework of work and cooperation, one company provided us with a trial version of freshly roasted grain, by the way, they have good service, the consultants tried to select coffee as accurately as possible according to my taste preferences, the roasting date is April 22, today I have already tried it. They sent me blend No. 98 Dominican Republic. My impressions: The grains are very different from the commercial varieties (Paulig, Lavaza, Kimbo, etc.), that is, the grain itself as a selection, good, even roast, fairly light. 2 The aroma is simply magnificent, I very rarely caught such a taste from purchased grains 3 The quality of the drink itself but there are several standards for determining the quality (cream color, in other words, foam, density, uniformity) One of the signs of not very good grain is white blotches on the foam, the heterogeneity of the coating with this foam, as well as its density - the foam must withstand half a teaspoon of sugar) According to these indicators, the grain is of a very high level. As for the taste, they didn't guess right after all. The sourness is felt and the density of the drink itself is average - this is due to roasting. I will definitely attach a photo of the package - again, this is not a network company, they fry themselves. Tomorrow morning I'll try to cook on my car, I cooked in the office there already + -12 thousand cups have been cooked. There is a feeling that this coffee should be perfectly prepared with milk. The acidity is just neutralized by milk. Unfortunately, I do not know how to make good reviews, I like statistics more, so below I will give examples of network beans - which I used specifically on Delonghi machines.
1 Pelican Rouge - EVARISTO series - recently discovered a new coffee, so I put it first. Unfortunately, I haven't seen it in stores, but I believe this is a commercial variety for vending machines.Balanced between bitterness and sourness, the aftertaste goes slightly towards cocoa. Perfect for those who do not like sourness. I think it's best to use it - in espresso form. The taste is lost with milk.
2 Cafeteria blend № 345 - I tasted this coffee made in the studio of Artemy Lebedev in St. Petersburg, ideal for preparation in a horn, in our delongi machines it acquires some bitterness. Perfect for lovers of cappuccino, latte. On the packaging it is written that the aftertaste is a floral sweetness, prunes - well, maybe) I would recommend this coffee to be prepared with a coarser grind for delongues - it tastes less bitter. (Sold only in St. Petersburg)
3 Paulig Mokka is a commercial coffee that is one of the most affordable and very pleasant in taste. This coffee is suitable for those who do not like bitterness, but love a slight sourness, aftertaste - a pronounced taste of cocoa. Suitable for lovers of pure black coffee and lovers with milk.
4 Egoist Noir is a premium segment, in fact, ordinary coffee. In terms of taste, it is perfect for lovers of coffee with milk / cappuccino. The taste is similar to "Cafeteria blend 345" In a clean feed, the drink was not very pleasant.
5 Kami Rosso - In a nutshell, cheap and cheerful!) The taste is soft, rich, not sour, there is bitterness. I liked it in its pure form. The main disadvantage is the grains of average quality. Different grinds can have different tastes. A great option if you want to save on grain. In 2016, I took it 1kg for 420-520r
6 Paulig President - good coffee for every day, almost doesn't sour, but don't expect anything outstanding from it either. Just not bad coffee. I liked milk the most.
7 Melitta - maybe it was specially designed for coffee makers of the same name, but I didn't like it in delongues. Any variety was very sour. It is impossible to drink without sugar and milk.
8 Lavazza - tried almost all varieties. Liked only Rosso and decaffeinated. All with milk. Everything else was sour, especially Oro.
9 Kimbo - seemingly a partner of Delonghi, but no ... At one time, we brewed a drink for those who wanted to taste really vigorous / crusty / dense / rich / bitter coffee ... I have several packs of this grains at home, but I will open them when I have no other grain. Drink exclusively with milk. However, many people buy it, perhaps the credibility of the brand ... it's hard to say.
10 De Rociss EXTRA - Coffee closes the top ten, which I would not recommend to anyone. If you read a little about grains, then you can learn such a thing that grains are of different quality - if all the previous 10 extra specialties - that is, of the highest quality. In this grain, despite the name, I noticed: non-uniform roasting, small twigs, some grains were with small mold. The above post wrote about the bitterness of coffee. YES rancidity and strong bitterness arise from low-quality grain, in this case it was a whole batch of such grain. We tried it. Unfortunately, neither milk nor sugar can fix such grain.

To summarize: I use Delonghi coffee machines and a wide variety of coffee machines. In my opinion, different types of grains suit different people with different tastes. Be sure to play with the grind levels (adjustable while the machine is running), try changing the cooking temperature, change the water, try softer water, play with the volumes of water. I try to use some beans for black coffee, some for cappuccino, some for cappuccino, and I also keep decaffeinated ground coffee at home. The main thing is to try different types of grains, to remember a few important things when choosing coffee - the stronger the roast, the denser and richer coffee you get, with less sourness, but stronger bitterness (it still depends on the country of origin of the grain, but this is a separate conversation). to be afraid of rabusta, rabusta just gives a stronger and denser taste, does not give sourness. Robusta is considered just a cheaper type of coffee, but not worse. PS There are also 2 main varieties, Liberica and Maragadjip. but they are not used in the preparation of coffee.Do not forget to also look at the date of coffee production - this will protect yourself from damaged / infected beans. And at least the coffee will be more aromatic. Often they write on the packs "with fruity notes", be prepared that this coffee will be very sour, which means that it grew near fruit plantations, and, accordingly, coffee trees have absorbed a lot of acids from the soil. You can continue to write about coffee, but that's in a different topic)))



Irina FAnd you take delonghi ecam22.360 this model is no different in terms of making coffee. And if you want something newer 29.660) In these machines, the main elements have not changed for 5 years ...

[NikoVazovski]

NikoVazovski, thank you very much for the review on grains and such a detailed analysis!
I'm looking all the time)
And, welcome to the forum!

[Irina F]

Irina F, I thought to write a couple of lines and then as it incurred) thoughts in a bunch) I wanted to write so much)
What coffee do you prefer? and what type of car do you have now?



Sorry for the flight of emotions) But today the supplier brought us Pelican Rouge Dolce coffee !!! this is a very cool coffee, what I love, soft, dense consistency, light bitterness, almost no sourness! I recommend with or without milk!) I will knock out the price tag, because this grain is not very common ... and is sold in few places (The manufacturer is more focused on vending. As soon as I manage to buy it or get it, I will definitely share information!)

ABOUT! Thanks!!! Very interesting!

[NikoVazovski]

But I know something about coffee.

How glad I am

5 Kami Rosso - In a nutshell, cheap and cheerful!)

Agree.

8 Lavazza

I will definitely not take it.

9 Kimbo

I bought it several times for the espresso machine. For a coffee machine - I will not.

Do not be afraid of rabusta, rabusta just gives a stronger and denser taste, does not give sourness.

I choose 80 to 20 (arabica, rabusta).
I don't like sour




NikoVazovski, thank you very much. At least one person was found with whom you can discuss types of coffee for a coffee machine

[$ vetLana]

$ vetLana,

I bought it several times for the espresso machine. For a coffee machine - I will not.

I agree, it is not even badly brewed in the Kimbo carob coffee maker) I think it’s a matter of the specifics of the metal millstones that are installed in Delongi coffee machines. Naturally, no one will answer this question, because this is partly a competitive advantage over other manufacturers, but it carries some specifics of taste)
PS Krups coffee machines also have steel millstones)

Yesterday I fell asleep Coffee "Segafredo Espresso Casa". While fresh - like it.

Pelican Rouge Dolce

Or Delice?

Not this? 🔗

4 Bosch, Krups on the principle of coffee for everybody, but for me the taste is too weak and watery in these machines

Bosch is not worth putting next to Krups.
I do not agree, from the word at all.
Krups' coffee, on the contrary, is rich, thick! The most delicious coffee from KRUPS

I tried from all cars, the most expensive and not expensive, carob.
As for the Rozhkovs, the most delicious rich coffee is from the Bork coffee station, as they call themselves)

The most delicious coffee from KRUPS BARISTA

Recently I like Espresso ABC of taste, medium roast, 90 Arabica and 10 Robusta. The coffee is always freshly roasted.

Good day, welcome to our ranks DeLonghi ECAM 22.110. We are very good. happy with her. But I will repeat my warning, they brought us coffee from Cuba, I opened a pack (1 kg) with such joy and looked forward to the CM ... I was not impressed ... and the car began to rattle, creak, as a result, it completely refused to work ... the reason, there was a set of mini-batteries in the mill .. one of the spouses was already almost grounding up and took out the pieces of the battery ... the machine now works, but the electronics began to freak out, then it gives out that it's time to clean the empty tray, then the whole car ... but the coffee gives out. Now I sow and browse coffee
And I am not a specialist in brands, I only solve kinetically everything, i.e.k often depends on production, timing, delivery, storage ...
I used to love LovatsU, but I regret that we buy in packs of 1 kg, it becomes completely different, and there is no place in the withers ...



When I want to pamper myself I buy, gram 150 grains Guatemala Azuro Maragodjeep - I like soft, rich, but light taste. There are friends who lived in Cuba, they frown at my milde coffee, and drink coffee chifir, but I can't drink that. I like light hints, but not thick Now you bought jardin guatemala cloud forest 3 b 4? Who tried it? I think to open it or not, it will fizzle out and sour ...

[marinastom]

marinastom, Marisha, you have a coffee machine for a long time. What kind of coffee do you buy?

jardin

I dont risk buying jardin. I was taught that only Italians can make real coffee. A stereotype that is difficult to fight.
Once in our store they sold South American (Chile, Peru - I don’t know exactly) with big discounts. We took a chance to buy. Turned out to be delicious coffee. But I have never seen this again.

[Svetlan]

Svetlan, good day,: flowers: there is coffee for yourself, favorite, but there is for different guests (not relatives) ... for whom only the strength is important ... and vice versa, they like sour ...

have coffee for yourself favorite,

Right. ... That's why I'm looking for him.

[marinastom]

marinastom, no, not this one, it has the name Dolce, I can't find it on sale)



SoNika, Try to lubricate the worm shaft, on which the infuser is installed, with grease - food grade silicone, should be sold in pharmacies or construction sites. Then the machine should creak less)



Masinen, I will not argue that for you the most delicious coffee is obtained from cereals. There is a lot to argue about the tastes of coffee, in my post I described only my personal opinion. There is one significant difference in manufacturers, any Delongi coffee machine from 20 to 190 thousand brews the same correct espresso, that is, the standards for brewing coffee in all Delongi machines are the same, but they are different in coffee machines, so a Krups barista machine can produce more delicious You drink)
In general, try, drink coffee, pick up the grain) Do not forget that the buyer often buys a coffee machine not only for taste)

[NikoVazovski]

NikoVazovski, thank you, I will tell my

there was a set of mini batteries in the mill

And how did they get there with coffee beans?
In general, you still need to look at the grain, if you do not fry it yourself ...

[Galina]

Galina, wonders themselves, and now I sift the coffee. grains, It's good that the batteries were together in a shell, only one came out and grinded. I think they dropped it into the vat when replaced

I put exactly two cups of coffee in the mill .. I don’t leave it until the next time in the mill. And the aroma is not the same. Store only in a glass jar with a sealed lid. But I have home-roasted coffee .. I roast myself ...

[Galina]

Galina, I also try, but we do not have such coffee, and when guests pour more, sometimes I have to add, for some reason everyone strives for a stronger mug and I don’t understand more, brrr, or the tastes are different, or on freebies : girl_red: and the vinegar is sweet

tastes are different,

Different, of course. My friend drinks only very strong coffee. She brews it in a Turk ..
I looked at your coffee machine .. At one time I chose this model or Phillips .. Phillips did not like the difficulty of removing the brewing unit, well, for me it was difficult .. Your modjel at that time was not very expensive. As a result, we bought Magnifica Esam 350 .. the head of the department in the store dropped a hundred for us, it was before Christmas .. So mine would cost 500 euros, and we bought it for 400 euros .. As the manager. department, she has the right to reduce the price at her discretion .. In general, I am very pleased with the purchase
, she has been working with us for three years TTT ...

I am very pleased with the purchase

this is very good. means a lot. Ours is 4 years old, we are happy with it, and if not for this unfortunate battery, because of which we had to disassemble the whole car and now it squeaks, growls, like a hungry animal ...

I put exactly two cups of coffee in the mill ..

How to do it? I pour in coffee and don't know how many cups will last.

I have an airpress measuring spoon. Grains for one very large cup of coffee are obtained, that is, 14 grams. Well, of course, not grain by grain, but nevertheless .. In my Delongy there is a measuring spoon for ground coffee. Two spoons of grain, will also be 14-16g ..
We drink coffee together. My husband drinks a double big, and I - very big .. German font, Russian in mine .. so I translate as I can ..

My Delongy has a measuring spoon for ground coffee

I have one. I have to try, see how much is needed for my cup. I noticed how different the freshly poured coffee is from the one that was in the coffee machine.

I noticed how different the freshly poured coffee is from the one that was in the coffee machine.

Rightly so. It is very different. Add a couple of spoons and see which cup is enough and dance from it. 14 gr is very big .. it's like a guide ..

[gawala]

gawala, Galya, it's difficult for me to control visually. The machine is fixed high. I'm tactile

it is difficult for me to control visually. The machine is fixed high. I'm tactile

Well then, "feel" ...

Yes, my girls, too, are not low, and I also noticed a difference in taste, if it was lying down, in the CM ..., some do not feel it ... I bought jars with latches where you can write, so now mine is drawing varieties

cans with latches, where you can write, now mine is drawing varieties

I also write which variety I fried .. The stickers are already over .. I need to buy new ones ..

I also write which variety I fried .. The stickers are already over .. I need to buy new ones ..

Galin, schaz new cans, a square is painted with black paint and a crayon (2 pcs) is attached, I don’t want to draw, and not expensive.

Here .. cheap and cheerful .. (Italian) but the scent is kept for a very long time ..

sorry Galin, banks are so almost square, but Russian and French
sorry, I don’t want to get tired ... I made salads, but I was wise with arrowroot flour, I put 2 batch ... saiga around the house ..

sorry Galin, banks are so almost square, but Russian and French

Why forgive me? I just showed, as an example, what I store fried grain in .. The cans are good, both yours, ours, and French. We have more and more Italian here.

Forgive me for not immediately responding with solid china, but our dishes also began to appear.

Forgive me for not immediately responding with solid china, but our dishes also began to appear.

And I was not at home either, I was jumping through the beds ..

[Galina]

Galina, yes you have a beauty there!

yes you have a beauty there!

Spring...

[Galina]

Galina, however .., and my coffee machine asks for cleaning again, so I think that there is not a number of cups, because now we do not drink it ... (the weather is hooligan, the pressure jumps), and she again requires cleaning. .. the container is empty, asks to clean it ... I think the spouse has collected something wrong ...

again the coffee machine asks for cleaning,

Descaling or "Waste coffee container full"? If the latter, it doesn't matter if you drink coffee or not. So it is programmed. I wasn’t at home for a month and a half, my husband didn’t drink coffee, he drained the water, and when I turned it on, the machine demanded to throw out the drunk coffee, which was not even in the drive .. So it doesn’t matter if you drink or not, it’s in the program. Well, if it’s scum, I don’t know, every 4 months we have a cry “clean me!”.

[Galina]

Galina, hmm, and I'm screaming about everything ... I'll have to clean it tomorrow