Masinen
Quote: Jenealis
I'm just very scared by the reviews that it is difficult to wash it,

Who is difficult to wash? Delongue this?
Yes, it cannot be, Delongs are the simplest and most reliable machines in service.
gawala
Doubted. went video found Delongy .. well, everything is correct in vain doubted. the design of "insides" is one-of-a-kind. cooking bloom is the same as mine. Manufacturers, as a rule, do not change the design inside, well, they added a ball-roller, but it is not essential, the basis will still be the same on all coffee machines, only the design will be changed, and the cappuccino mug will be shoved so that it is completely autolat, yes the control panel is electronic .. And the principle is the same ..
Masinen
gawala, and I went and looked about 3000 magnifics, everything is like in my only mechanical control and without a display.

In short, a good, simple car.
gawala
Quote: Masinen
mechanical control without display.
Well, I have buttons .. and a display. The model is just newer .. By the way, these models have disappeared somewhere. Released in some kind of direct limited edition and disappeared a year later ..
Jenealis
Here's another one I can De Longhi ECAM 22.110.B, there are good reviews about it. Honestly, except for the appearance, I don’t understand the difference. But here is one of the reviews for the 3000 model from the Yandex market: Unfortunately, the car has critical flaws that negate all the advantages. The cartridge consists of two parts, movable and fixed. The movable part is removed and washed, the stationary one sits in the body of the car. Due to the design, the machine pours coffee onto the pallet, which is recommended to be vacuum cleaned !! ?? The stationary part of the cartridge is maintenance-free and according to the instructions for cleaning the stationary part, the machine must be handed over to the service once a year. Well, at a gallop you will be ripped off in the service, one feature is known. Excessive consumption of coffee and the need to contact an expensive service makes the machine not recommended for use. In confirmation of my words, some networkers gave these machines to check more than 40 thousand.
It's just that I have never had a machine gun, only a carob, so such reviews are scary ... Or is it a nature reserve ???
Stafa
I recently changed the coffee machine, chose without a display and so that there was more mechanical, since my husband does not want to understand any inscriptions on the display and on the buttons. I took Delonghi esam 2600, 3000 the same, that is, which one is cheaper - take the one. But after my gray saek I just trudge from the black delonga. And I will never take a light coffee machine again. And the taste of coffee is much tastier than coffee in delongue than from saeki.
Jenealis
Stafa, thanks, that's what the real owner's feedback was missing. How much do you have? Doesn't flow?
Masinen
Quote: gawala
Well, I have buttons .. and a display. The model is just newer .. By the way, these models have disappeared somewhere. Released in some kind of direct limited edition and disappeared a year later ..
Galya, so yours is an updated version of mine, a very good model.

I have the same but older release)

gawala
Quote: Masinen
so yours is an updated version of mine, very good model.
yeah .. it will be newer .. I like it too ..
Masinen
Galina,
Evgeniya, Zhenya I looked at the last one. ECAM 22.110.B

Well, she will be more modern, and even outwardly prettier, and also everything can be pulled out and washed without problems)

And the price is good.
gawala
Quote: Masinen
ECAM 22.110.B
Yes, it will be a newer model .. We first wanted to buy this, and then we head. The department invited my model to look at it, and as soon as I waved and wailed, she immediately lowered the price of 100 euros, it was before Christmas.
Stafa
Jenealis, Evgeniya, I have it for a couple of months in total. The neighbors have had it for a couple of years. Everything works fine for them.
Belka13
I have had a Delonghi 3500 since 2011, and before that she was still at work with her husband.I like it very much, only a bit big compared to other models. The control is simple, the machine writes about its desires, I drive it from the scale once every two months. True, I rarely use a cappuccinator - I bought a frother. And at today's price, Metro is generally super. Yes, the model is old, but time-tested.
Masinen
Belka13, Olya and I have been with me since the beginning of 2011 or the end of 2010, I went with my daughter when I bought it)
Very good model

You and I are the same))

They even told me in the DeLongy / Kenwood service that this one, ours, is the best of all Delongy)
proshka
I have 22.360 B. I like it, though I rarely use it - I live with my mother.
Jenealis
Belka13, Ol, how much does it cost in the subway?
mowgli
and me Boshik, the only drawback cools quickly
Belka13
Masinen, yeah, I remember
Jenealis, I saw on a billboard - either 18990, or 19990 instead of the old 36000. I would have bought myself in reserve, but I have a new one in my stash - 22.360
Masinen
Quote: Belka13
either 18990 or 19990 instead of the old 36000.
Stunned !! That must be taken! Go and buy !!!
And don't even choose anything!
Belka13
Strange, in the meter catalog a different price is indicated. Or will it only rise in price from October 6? But at the bus stop today, I definitely saw a banner with our coffee machine and a beautiful price for it - I told my work colleague - oh, my coffee machine, if we could buy one for work.
$ vetLana
There is a very useful info on YouTube. May be useful to someone. The master tells and shows how to repair coffee machines.
-Repair of coffee machines and coffee makers oleg pl-



Added on Wednesday 05 Oct 2016 11:47 am

Quote: gawala
... the design of the "insides" is one-of-a-kind.
Quote: Stafa
Delongi esam 2600, 3000 is the same, that is, which one is cheaper - take that one.
Thanks for the advice. Helped to save 10 tons.
Thank you Masinen, gawala, Stafa,
sleepyhead
Girls, good morning! Can you advise? Take a look here:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...335.0
$ vetLana
sleepyhead, Svetlana, I gave a link to youtube in a previous post. There, the master tells about the repair of various coffee machines. Look, you can find something for yourself. I will write a link to you in PM. You can ask him a question about the repair.
sleepyhead
Quote: $ vetLana
You can ask him a question about the repair.
Thank you I myself will not dare to repair, but it makes no sense to send it somewhere, very expensive. It's heavy.
Blueberry-Masha
Girls - advise what to take. We want to give mom a coffee machine. Budget up to 30 - maximum 35 thousand. Good tasty coffee is important. Can't decide what to take - a carob or a machine gun? I read the forum - all the polls are repairing machines, I would not want to get into this. And many people criticize that the coffee grind in machines is lame in quality. And you need to clean it thoroughly and take care of it, etc.
On the other hand, you also need to buy a coffee grinder to the horn, and like the manager in the store tells us, we won't make good coffee from the horn (like we don't know how to brew correctly).
We have a lot of Delongy represented. I want the simplest one without additional. bells and whistles, but that would be as reliable as possible.
HELP!!!
Kara
Masha, my Delongy's automatic machine is almost 5 years old, I have never repaired it. There is no particular hassle for care, it cleans itself when turned on and off, the cappuccino maker also cleans itself by pressing one button (of course, the container must then be washed from milk). About once a month he asks to descale it. Also, a minimum of effort, poured the product, pressed the button, then poured more water. That's the whole cleaning. You can leave it that way, but I'm still washing the pan and water tank. And, by the way, I only used a special tool for the first time, then began to clean it with ordinary citric acid. The coffee is delicious, the strength and the size of the cup are adjustable. Something like that.
Blueberry-Masha
Kara, and what kind of model? Probably some kind of dear?
The manager (pusher Delongy) actively told us yesterday that Delongy is generally special. no need to wash.
We want a manual cappuccinator
$ vetLana
Quote: Blueberry Masha
We want to give mom a coffee machine
Quote: Blueberry Masha
Good tasty coffee is important
Blueberry-Masha, the coffee machine is VERY convenient. The taste of coffee depends on the quality of the beans.
Belka13
I have a Delongy Magnifica - in my opinion, model 3500. An old, time-tested machine. And there are often discounts on it in Metro, Mvideo and Technosila.
$ vetLana
I liked this comparison. I watched and read a lot of videos on different sites.
In my opinion, he explains everything sensibly and shows.
gawala
If you buy a carob, then a definitely good coffee grinder, so that the grain does not burn out, you need to be able to ram the coffee correctly, which means you need a temper .. well, plus good grain ... you cannot make good coffee from bad grain ..
I have Delongy Magnifica. There was a horn, which after 3 months ordered to live a long time, not the most expensive, so it seems like it’s not a pity .. although it’s still a pity for money ..
In the vending machine it is necessary to adjust the grinding first of all, to "kill" a certain amount of grain, but to adjust the grinding correctly. By the way, this is not a problem at all .. A friend was presented with an automatic machine, she is not a gourmet, but she loves coffee .. and then I happened all so businesslike and smart .. I say that your floor is not debugged, two coffee, will now adjust. She had no idea what to set up .. In general, she twisted her grind a couple of times back and forth, she tried it, said that it was super .. Well, super and super .. My friend has an unfamiliar brand, maybe China, maybe in Russia that They produce their own, I don’t know, but it brews coffee very well, there is a cappuccino tube, put the tube in a bag of milk and foam comes out through the cappuccinatore, well, in general, according to this principle .. Her coffee machine, if memory serves, is 20 thousand. rubles .. Your budget is about 400 euros, which means you can buy a good machine ...
The most reliable brands ..? anything can break. Delongy is reliable, there is nothing to break with careful use. Jura is a capricious car, Saeko-Phillips is not praised for something .. In a search engine, look for the opinions of experts on the repair of coffee machines, there will be a lot of information. read a lot of interesting things you will learn ... and at the same time you will find out which breakdowns are typical for a particular brand, this will also help to avoid the wrong choice when buying.


Added Saturday 10 December 2016 12:50 PM

Quote: Blueberry Masha
that delongues are generally special. no need to wash.
Anticalc is required, otherwise you will ditch it very quickly. On mine after 4 months, the inscription appears "Clean" and it is already impossible to brew coffee, it will not work.
Blueberry-Masha
Oh, girls, thank you all so much for your advice.
In stores, consultants are either all interested, or absolutely not understanding.
There is no time to choose for a long time - you need a gift.
I look, there is an opportunity to take Delonghi ESAM 2600 for 21,500 and Delonghi ECAM 22.110 for 27,500
So what to choose? Good machines? I can't really catch the difference between them by clicking the "compare" button on the site)))
Maybe someone used it?
Kara
Quote: gawala



Added Saturday 10 December 2016 12:50 PM
Anticalc is required, otherwise you will ditch it very quickly. On mine after 4 months, the inscription appears "Clean" and it is already impossible to brew coffee, it will not work.
Gal, I haven't ruined anything in 5 years. And she brews coffee perfectly with the inscription "clean" well, for a week, she hasn't tried it longer.
gawala
Quote: Kara

Gal, I haven't ruined anything in 5 years. And she brews coffee perfectly with the inscription "clean" well, for a week, she hasn't tried it longer.
Maybe your water is soft, so it didn’t ditch ... Our water is so hard that it’s so hard to ditch at once, with our friends it broke like that .. It's good that my husband thinks about these, he repaired everything. All the pipes were clogged with tracing paper .. That we have, that friends have very hard water ..



Added Saturday 10 Dec 2016 01:24 PM

It's better for me. DeLonghi ESAM 4500 Espressomaschine. If money doesn't work, then
Delonghi ECAM 22.110 this model is newer than Delonghi ESAM 2600
Blueberry-Masha
Quote: gawala


It's better for me. DeLonghi ESAM 4500 Espressomaschine. If money doesn't work, then
Delonghi ECAM 22.110 this model is newer than Delonghi ESAM 2600
Or maybe someone knows a significant difference between them? As for me, the older model is sometimes more proven by time and consumers.
gawala
Quote: Blueberry Masha
Or maybe someone knows a significant difference between them? As for me, the older model is sometimes more proven by time and consumers.
The difference is in noise. The new models are quieter, so to speak .. Technically they are the same, the same infuser for example .. But the difference in work is significant. I just have something to compare with. friends have this .. a bit noisy compared to mine ..
You know, proven by time and by the consumer, in my opinion it does not fit with coffee machines ...
Kara
Quote: gawala

Maybe your water is soft, so it didn't ditch ...
In our country, water is only poured into the coffee machine from bottles. It would never have crossed my mind to pour from the tap No means would have helped with our water
gawala
Quote: Kara
In our country, water is only poured into the coffee machine from bottles. It wouldn't even occur to me to pour from the tap
Well, we have our own two wells, 200 years each .. But .. for some time now I have been buying water for a coffee machine with a high sodium content. And not calcium .. The taste of coffee depends on the hardness of the water. In hard water, the coffee is more bitter, but I am a little smoother .. I found it empirically ..
$ vetLana
Blueberry-Masha, have you watched the video? There is just an explanation for the "insides" of the machines.
zvezda
Masha !!! We now have 22.110 in Technosil at a price of 24900, you do not have a specified city
Definitely it is necessary to take it ... I have been with Delongy already ... for ten years, now the latest model, I have already shown: oops: But the main thing is that you take it with stainless panarello !! This is a very big difference !! Even though I have all the functions, I often use it !! And anyway ... she's kind of more bite: girl_dance: We need to go to the store and see it live .. 7 Your machine will choose you !!
GOOD LUCK !!!!
Natalia K.
Quote: zvezda
We now have 22.110 in Technosila at a price of 24900
zvezda, Olga, you can buy it cheaper in St. Petersburg

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zvezda
Natalia !!!I don't see any additional letters ... but the Panarello is plastic, but you need stainless steel !!! And I don’t know a site like this: girl-th: and TEhnosila is a chain of large stores .. although if you google you can find it cheaper !! What shops do you have ?? Or is this the final price
Bast1nda
One of the best, no, not so - rather the best - Jura Z6. Overview. The site generally has a lot of reviews of high-quality coffee machines, including.

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But I still can't agree about bluetooth that well, right here is the most necessary thing))))))

Well, a simpler saek, my favorite (I'm talking about the brand before its merger with Phillips as a whole, and not about a specific model).

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I now have a long-standing saeka nina cappuccino horn - great car! The horn is generally very interesting, although it is more time-consuming in comparison with a full automatic machine - you can make many options for coffee with different grains, ramming, etc. - this is manual labor, it turns out exclusive.
And the Delongues have been using a single button for many years, model EKAM 3500. Also an excellent, time-tested unit.
But I keep looking at this djuru, of course))))))

And so, if you find Manifik EKAM 3500, you can safely take it - it has been tested over the years and by many users, it is brought to mind, it prepares everything itself and at the same time is simple and inexpensive to maintain.
In general, in terms of meaning, you need a great espresso machine. Which makes espresso well. + quality grain. All major coffee drinks are made with espresso. Well, yes, it simplifies, of course, when each drink is equipped with a + button to have its own drink, that is, you can program it, but this all makes the machine much more expensive. Therefore, here everyone decides for himself what is in priority.
vatruska
Only yesterday in the program "miracle of technology" they talked about household gadgets connected to the Internet - 9 minutes and a virus is already sitting! It was specifically about coffee makers, irons and refrigerators ... (there are still such ovens ... but at the time of the test, such an oven for some reason refused to connect via blues, the manufacturer's representative could not explain this)
marinastom
A week ago, in the same program, they were evaluating coffee brewing gadgets. And about Coffee machines there was also a conversation.
Elena Gar
We also have Magnific EKAM 3500 for two years, I confirm, an excellent model! And about the fact that you do not need to clean, it means from coffee oils. Some companies, in addition to scale, need to be cleaned of coffee oils, while Delongy's brewing unit goes back and forth by itself and there are no tubes that need to be cleaned, only from scale. We also only pour bottled water, but all the same sometimes asks to be descaled, I clean it with a vinegar solution.
Belka13
Only this Wednesday in Metro this model of coffee machine will cost 29990. Or 29999.
Our water is very hard.I filter through several filters. We drink coffee together once a day. I descale it once every two months.
zvezda
I understand that the price also matters ...
Sergey Kornilov
Coffee machine
Belka13
Sergey Kornilov, I just wrote about this

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