Coffee machine

I got it, thanks for the info.
I want one, but my Saeco XSmall has been working for almost 5 years and does not break (also, by the way, I bought it at METRO for 8999 for a promotion).
I will wait

Oh, girls-boys, with the city everything is very sad for me in terms of shops and promotions. Sevastopol, Crimea, so to speak ...
We have Metro-nedoMetro since even at the office. the site does not have our Metro in the lists, therefore, we do not have any shares of your Metro. All these sanctions ...
The rest of the chain stores are not represented here either.
There are tech shops, but all this is our local island bottling. And the rest of the bridge are waiting ...

Thank you all very much for your advice and help! As a result, we bought a silver Delongy 22.110 (the birthday girl wished this color). I hope that it will please. December 15 we will give it.
We wanted to take 21.117 first. They write that this is a full clone of 22.110 but in a more original color (black and silver). We arrived at a warehouse-shop, they got it for us, and inside it there was a coffee crumb and a filter was opened. In short, we refused to buy. And it turned out to be pure silver, not striped.

We bought as a result 22.110 Delongy silver

Well this is a good model. Let the coffee be delicious and the machine will serve for a long time to the delight of the hostess!

[Masha!]

Masha!! Congratulations!!!! : a-kiss: And let all the supplies and shops get better in your city (so dear and beloved) sooner!

Hello everyone! Can you please tell me, did anyone compare a capsule coffee machine (like a nescafe) and a grain one in terms of economy?
At home I have grain Saeko, and at work I have a capsule. In my opinion, it is easier to care for a capsule, and it makes coffee different and tasty. Moreover, it is cheaper itself. But, as I understand it, during the use on grain, there is more savings on the coffee itself (grains are cheaper than capsules)

Hello everyone! Can you please tell me, did anyone compare a capsule coffee machine (like a nescafe) and a grain one in terms of economy?
At home I have grain Saeko, and at work I have a capsule. In my opinion, it is easier to care for a capsule, and it makes coffee different and tasty. Moreover, it is cheaper itself. But, as I understand it, during the use on grain, there is more savings on the coffee itself (grains are cheaper than capsules)

In my opinion, it is somewhat incorrect to compare capsule coffee and grain coffee. these are completely different things ..
Capsule coffee is different and delicious .. everything is different, but what is inside, no one except the manufacturer knows .. What flavorings are added there, and they are added and what kind of coffee there is also no one knows, and whether it is natural is also a big question ..
there is no complex maintenance of the coffee machine with a full automatic ... rinse once every three months from scale and clean the drain pan and brewing unit ...
I think that everyone decides for themselves that they eat more to their liking and taste. I already have two capsules in the pantry .. And I use a full automatic machine, and even bought a coffee roaster, I fry my own coffee, well, I can't compare home-roasted coffee with any capsules. maybe it comes out more expensive, I have not counted and will not count, for myself I am doing it for myself ..

In my opinion, it is somewhat incorrect to compare capsule coffee and grain coffee. these are completely different things ..
Capsule coffee is different and tasty .. everything is different, but what is inside, no one except the manufacturer knows .. What flavors are added there, and they are added and what kind of coffee there is also no one knows, and whether it is natural is also a big question.

Thank you so much. To be honest, the composition of capsule coffee confuses me very much too ...
Apparently, I was just unlucky with the grain machine.

Apparently, I was just unlucky with the grain machine.

What brand do you have?

What brand do you have?

I have a Saeco. At first everything was fine.Then she began to ask to wash her very often. How to use the pills, we still did not figure it out, we did not find it in the instructions. (Of course, they themselves are to blame, it was necessary to call support from those). We washed it with a special means (they bought it at MV). Then she began to "ask" to wash more and more often. then stopped working altogether.

I have a Saeco.

It is clear, generally not very good reviews about them ..
Well, only one option, buy a new car, good .. if of course the budget allows .. Well, of course, the grain must be good. after all, falling asleep with a low-quality zaeno is difficult to get good coffee ..

It is clear, not very much about them at all ..
Well, only one option, buy a new car, good ..

We would understand now how good it is We were sure that Saeco is a good company. Although, maybe once at a time ..

We were convinced that Saeco was a good company.

I do not know which model you have - Saeco Royal Professional models are considered unkillable.
Philips Saeco HD 8750/11 Intuita Kaffee Vollautomat is not very .. Saeco odea go breaks very much .. Saeco Xsmall Steam Schwarz, also not very .. I once monitored all these models .. I chose Delongy as a result ..

I don’t know which model you have - Saeco Royal Professional models are considered indestructible.
Philips Saeco HD 8750/11 Intuita Kaffee Vollautomat is not very .. Saeco odea go breaks down very much .. Saeco Xsmall Steam Schwarz, also not very .. I once monitored all these models .. I chose Delongy as a result ..

Oh, I don’t know the model now. The coffee machine is removed to the balcony. The instruction is there. How do you like Delongy?

How do you like Delongy?

I have Delogni Magnifica Rapid Cappuccino. I am very pleased. Price line 400 euros. It was more expensive, but we bought before Christmas and the prices were 100 euros lower.,

I have Delogni Magnifica Rapid Cappuccino.

Thank you so much! I will study the manufacturer in more detail now

I will study the manufacturer in more detail now

assembly can be both Chinese and European. keep this in mind.

Has anyone compared a capsule coffee machine (like nescafe) and a grain coffee machine in terms of economy?

I compared and do it all the time. At work, the ancient Saeko Vienna, at Tassimo's house, there is no difference, except that Saeka brews ristretto stronger, it consumes more coffee per serving. Capsule coffee is more expensive and much more.

I have Saeco Xsmall - in January she will be 5 years old. Works great.
The brewing units are the same for all Saeco models. The taste depends a lot on the coffee.
Cleaning and washing is quite simple, I wash it once a week.
A capsule one makes sense if you don't drink much coffee and you can pick up the car itself for free or very cheaply.
If you want to drink good coffee, but can only afford a capsule machine and do not want to buy expensive capsules, then as an option:
you can take reusable capsules and fill them yourself. (in the evening they filled 4 capsules and folded them, and in the morning they simply inserted them into the car and brewed coffee. In the evening, refuel them again, etc.)

Saeco xsmall

I have not seen them on sale for a long time ... About five years ago everything was inundated with them .. Just as repair services are inundated with them. There were very negative reviews .. I know, because I was looking for a coffee machine, I read, I found out ..
It’s like a lottery, bad luck, as in any technique. You can buy it for a million and fall apart the next day, or you can buy it for a penny and it will work for a hundred years without stopping ..

I also have two Saeco XSmalls, one in the apartment, the other in the village. Both were bought in about February 2011, and the one in the village, just black, was bought at a huge discount in Eldorado, after renovation. Plows, dear, flawlessly. The silver-white one bought at full price last year was given for repairs, it was clogged with scale. Now everything is fine too.
They are on sale, they have changed slightly in appearance, but not fundamentally.
PPKS that the taste of a drink, first of all, depends on the quality of the grains, and only then on the bells and whistles of the car.

I have not seen them on sale for a long time ...

What do you mean !!! Just take a closer look.
They are sold almost everywhere, but Philips set a horse price tag on them, plus added an automatic cappuccinator to some configurations.
I don't know who you talked to about reliability, but there is simply nothing to break down: a heater, a pump and a brewing unit, and the part numbers of the parts are exactly the same as in luxury cars for 1 and 2 thousand dollars.It's just that expensive electronics are still complex, but here it is practically absent.

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They are sold almost everywhere

Well, I'll be somewhere in Passau, I'll take a look ..

I don't know who you talked to about reliability,

With myself ...

but there is simply nothing to break: a heater, a pump and a brewing unit

all coffee machines have it all. The question of reliability. here is Delongy just from a series of "nothing to break" with proper operation. This was the reason for my choice of this particular coffee machine ..
I repeat once again, any technique is a lottery .. someone is lucky, someone is not.
I do not dispute the dignity of your car, I only write that 5 years ago in my Europe there were a lot of this particular car brand, now there are none .. and all large electronic stores have repair shops and service centers, in which these cars are broken or the return was a lot .. that's actually all.

Girls (and boys), urgently need help from the audience !!!!!
I don't understand anything about coffee makers and about coffee in general (since I don't drink it).
But there was a request for a gift: "I want a full automatic machine and that there is a cappuccinatore and that ceramic millstones and not too big to fit on a microwave in the kitchen and an automatic cleaning system."
I believe that someone knows exactly what this set of letters is and in general which way to look.
Thanks a lot in advance !!!!

Girls (and boys), urgently need help from the audience !!!!!
I don't understand anything about coffee makers and about coffee in general (since I don't drink it).
But there was a request for a gift: "I want a full automatic machine and that there is a cappuccinatore and that ceramic millstones and not too big to fit on a microwave in the kitchen and an automatic cleaning system."
I believe that someone knows exactly what this set of letters is and in general which way to look.
Thanks a lot in advance !!!!

About millstones. The ceramics are good, they do not burn the grain, but if God forbid, God forbid, there is a pebble in the grain, then everything ... the wormwood kaput millstones will be right away ..
As far as I know ceramics from Saeko Phillips. see this line of cars, there are a lot of them now by the way .. new models.
On a microwave that would fit. It depends on what kind of microwave it is .. and you can put it on the principle, although it will be a bit heavy .. Coffee machines they still weigh not 1 kg ..

It is dumb to put a coffee machine on the microwave, especially on top of the microwave ventilation, well, at least I have it.

But there was a request for a gift: "I want a full automatic machine and that there is a cappuccinatore and that ceramic millstones and not too big to fit on a microwave in the kitchen and an automatic cleaning system."

I bought a Delonghi ESAM 2600, its dimensions (W * H * D) 28x38x36 cm, Weight 9.7 kg. This will definitely not fit on a microwave.

I bought a Delonghi ESAM 2600, its dimensions (W * H * D) 28x38x36 cm, Weight 9.7 kg. This will definitely not fit on a microwave.

Full slot machines are not easy .. They are all about the same size .. and weight too ..

We put it on brackets that we fixed on the wall. A good option, it hangs and does not bother anyone.

We put it on brackets that we fixed on the wall. A good option, it hangs and does not bother anyone.

As an option, if the size of the kitchen is small, it’s very cool .. My kitchen is healthy, there is a lot of space, it’s worth it on the table .. But it’s definitely not possible to hang it. that's just the place on the walls and no

So we were puzzled by the purchase of a coffee machine. This year we were in Cuba and just sat down with my husband on cappuccino with coffee liqueur, we even bought 2 bottles to our homeland and have already been standing idle for six months
I stopped like on the Delonghi ESAM 3500 model. Many speak positively about it. But the budget allows you to take a more expensive one. So I don't know: is it worth it or already take 3500 and not suffer.
Answer the owners of the 3500 model, are there any drawbacks of this coffee machine that were discovered during operation?
Maybe someone else can recommend some kind of coffee machine in which you can make cappuccino, which is self-cleaning and makes delicious coffee? The budget is up to 60-70 tr (if necessary, it can still "move" to the larger side).

[4udo]

4udo, I have Delonghi ECAM 22.360s, I like it. Makes cappuccino, you can latte, cleans the cappuccino maker herself. Compact, I'm happy.

[4udo]

4udo, I have Delonghi ECAM 22.360s, I like it. Makes cappuccino, you can latte, cleans the cappuccino maker herself. Compact, I'm happy.

This is a very good model.

I have both (it happened).For some reason I like 3500 more. Although we have already repaired it a couple of times (but this has been since 2007 or 2008). The 22.360 is more compact and the 3500 is more solid. He writes all his problems and wishes on the display. Yes, and it is older, already tested by time and members of the forum. Although I can't say anything bad about the second model either. It seems to me that the 4500th has come to replace the 3500th.

[proshka]

proshka, gawala, Belka13, girls, thanks
Belka13, and much more compact 22.360 in width? If they are standing next to you, can you take a picture?
4500 also looked, but the difference in characteristics is small, but the difference in price is decent.

And I was looking for a compact one to squeeze into a certain place. By the way, my car also has a text display and also writes all problems in text. Very comfortably.

[4udo]

4udo, Natasha, no, not near, unfortunately. 22.360 is put into the closet to the very top, it is stuffed with other heavy things, it's hard to get it. It is Already, and the height and depth are not significantly different, in my opinion. And at 4500 there are discounts often. You can watch. Metro 3500 is often discounted. It cost 45,000 rubles for a long time, and now the price is practically the same, it does not fall at all.
More compact models always cost more.

It cost 45,000 rubles for a long time, and now the price is practically the same, it does not fall at all.

In our area, the price for Delongy also falls .. If only a share in some large supermarket may be, but not .. the price is stable even for old models ...

Owners of Delongy from St. Petersburg, what water hardness do you set in the coffee machine?

Owners of Delongy from St. Petersburg, what water hardness do you set in the coffee machine?

Did you not have a water hardness test attached to the machine?
I had such a test, we put the hardest one, but our water is hard .. Although now we buy bottled soft water. Vks coffee depends on water. Hard water is bitter coffee. Soft water is delicate coffee.

[gawala]

gawala, there was no test. Just now we read that it should be included in the package. I did not see him. In St. Petersburg, the water is soft. Now they put a deuce (the factory was a four)

In St. Petersburg, the water is soft. Now they put a deuce (the factory was a four)

Well, I heard that the water in St. Petersburg is soft ..
This is a litmus paper. maybe it was "lying around" in the instructions .. But we did not rearrange anything, so we left it on the hardest .. Yes, the tester showed us hard water ..

I will look. Couldn't I throw it out?

Couldn't I throw it out?

strip of paper ..

Checkmark, thanks. Found it! Glued to a thin instruction in some language. I removed it without looking. Now let's check. Thank you

Added Friday 13 Jan 2017 4:55 PM

We measured it. One square turned red. On the machine, the rigidity was set to one.

Glued to a thin instruction in some language.

Exactly. glued and we had ..
Well all is well that ends well!

Delonghi ESAM 3500

Natasha, excellent and reliable car

The girls from Delongy. Several months of operation of the Delongy 2600. It worked fine, made us happy. One fine day, when the button for making coffee was pressed, the mill began to emit, one might say, a squeal (it worked without beans). I had to knock a little on the wall, After that it worked fine. Now this happens periodically. For some reason, the grains don't go to the mill
Has anyone come across this?

The girls from Delongy. Several months of operation of the Delongy 2600. It worked fine, made us happy. One day at the push of a button

Svetlana I have the same thing, it turned out to be a set of mini batteries ... in the video people say that the wire, whatever gets in ... You cleaned it in the mill. looked? We realized that either jammed or broke dir. disks

[Nika]

Nika, you think such a squeal from the fact that something is stuck? We didn't look. ... How to find a video?

[Nika]

Nika, you think such a squeal from the fact that something is stuck? We didn't look. ... How to find a video?

Svetlana, in YouTube ... Delonghi Magnifiсa coffee machine disassembly, coffee grinder repair. Maybe the wrong model, but you're looking at the problem.
We with a torch, and tweezers got everything, but alas ...
And our 3rd year ... there were no problems ... now we need to sift coffee ...
Maybe you set a small gap for grinding?