valushka-s

Cartoons are similar, slightly different, but smart and pretty!
And a step of 1 min. and 1 degree, and while the program is running, you can change the time and temperature, and the sound can be turned off, and there are many different settings, convenient menu scrolling (+ -)
prubul
Quote: Vasya Fufaikin
MEAT IS ALWAYS PUT ONLY IN COLD WATER !!! I just read a lot and saw enough of recipes from the wonderful housewives who pour boiling water over the meat even in a slow cooker)))
I disagree if vegetables are first fried and then meat is added. then only a small amount of hot water, and then add cold water, since the temperature changes can deteriorate the bowls with a ceramic coating.
If you just cook meat and vegetables, then yes cold.
And about the choice of a multicooker, then probably Shteba she is 3 in 1 (slow cooker - multicooker and pressure cooker)
Raspberry Zemlyanikina
Hello. I ask for help. I've been choosing a slow cooker for three weeks now, but it seems I can't do it myself. The difficulty lies in the fact that it will not be possible to first look at them, touch them. You need to order via the Internet. The first multicooker was Brand 502. I have had it since 2012. Completely satisfied, but recently she began to break down on little things. From the requirements for a multicooker: it is DELICIOUS to cook, build quality so that the multicooker can cook in my absence, as I often cook with a delay (i.e. safety). I will cook first courses, boiled pork, biscuits, casseroles, jellied meat, yogurt, and I wanted pilaf, not meat rice porridge. Based on this, I think it would be good to adjust the temperature to 5 degrees from 35 (well, or from 40, if the yogurt and dough does not overheat). At the moment, I liked the panasonic 550 (but it's hard to find it, and there was a marriage there), oursson 515, steba dd2, Phillips 4734, bosh MUC24B64RU (there are practically no reviews at all). I ask for help in choosing, as you definitely need an outside opinion.
sveta-Lana
Quote: Rituslya
I had plenty of Reds. They are all the same
Rituslya, What is it like? can be more? I mean the quality of materials, workmanship and coating of the bowl
I decided on the functions, they are satisfied with all three cartoons, but I cannot decide about the quality which will be better


Added Saturday 17 Sep 2016 08:21 AM

Steba DD2 I can't afford


Added Saturday 17 Sep 2016 08:22 AM

I like Marta MT-1989, but I think it is more bulky than 4301
Rituslya
sveta-Lana, Svetlana, in my opinion, now the Reds have a very large selection of bowls. I came across all normal. Here is the only thing, in 250 (there seemed to be ceramics there) the beginning to stick and in 150 on the outer surface some kind of bump turned out. I don't remember now. Now I have 2 small Rediks, everything is fine there, although sometimes I try to pick up something with a fork.
About smells, too, everything was fine. Here is the 250 model, again at first, it smelled unpleasant.
And so ... It seems that everything is normal.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

But my Panas workhorse fell off the table a couple of times - they didn't even crack and I don't know what we didn’t do in it - when the brains refuse, I’ll change of course, but for now there are no complaints
prubul
steba 1 is cheaper and when you consider. that you buy 3 devices in 1 if urgently, you can take on credit (I DO NOT AGITATE)

5490 RUB 🔗

about the work of this multicooker write Tanyule she has both the first and the second, and in general she had so much equipment in the test https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=78365.80
Masinen
Quote: sveta-Lana
Steba DD2 I can't afford

Svetlana, there is a BASIC version, a cut-down bundle and the price, respectively, is lower, and decently lower.
You can buy Staff DD1, she is also very good.
I have both DD1 and DD2, I use them and serve me well.
The difference between them is that the DD2 can now turn off the heating in advance, the temperature range has been increased from 30 g to 150 g. with a step of 1 gr.
Well, that's it)
So check out the DD2 basic package

🔗

and if you still register on the site, then it seems like there will be a discount, as it used to be.

but here DD1 is not expensive
🔗
Vasya Fufaikin
valushka-s
I wrote Marta, you probably don't know that Lumme and Marta are the same brand. As far as I know, there will be no more new Lumme models.


Added Saturday 17 Sep 2016 12:54 PM

Masinen
The difference between Steba DD1 and Steba DD2 is huge. Firstly, in terms of temperature coverage, and secondly, the Simmering + mode with a variable temperature in one degree increments from 80-150 degrees. Changing the temperature in the heating mode from 30-80 degrees, now you can easily make even kefir, not to mention yoghurts, as well as Sous-vide.


Added Saturday 17 Sep 2016 1:06 PM

prubul
You may disagree, but THIS IS THE MAIN RULE WHEN COOKING BROWS AND ANYWHERE !!! Vegetables are fried separately. This is what they teach in France, where my friend now works as a cook in a very expensive restaurant. Putting meat in cold water is not a whim, but knowledge of physics and chemistry, the return of all the taste qualities of meat occurs more intensely from cold water.
Uncle Sam
Quote: shade
But my Panas workhorse fell off the table a couple of times - they didn't even crack and I don't know what we didn’t do in it - when the brains refuse, I’ll change of course, but for now there are no complaints

Exactly!
A hanging drying cabinet with a full set of dishes fell on my Panas.
So all the dishes went into nirvana (through the garbage chute), and at the multicooker only the pan was badly wrinkled ...
I thought: everything! kapets "Kashcheyu-Immortal" from Japan! It's time to buy a new cartoon!
Where there! After several blows with a wooden mallet, the bowl returned to its original shape by 90%. In addition to the website, I bought a new saucepan for ridiculous money.
And Panas works and works ...
Pancake!
Vasya Fufaikin
Quote: Uncle Sam

Exactly!
A hanging drying cabinet with a full set of dishes fell on my Panas.
So all the dishes went into nirvana (through the garbage chute), and at the multicooker only the pan was badly wrinkled ...
I thought: everything! kapets "Kashcheyu-Immortal" from Japan! It's time to buy a new cartoon!
Where there! After several blows with a wooden mallet, the bowl returned to its original shape by 90%. In addition to the website, I bought a new saucepan for ridiculous money.
And Panas works and works ...
Pancake!

Yes, he's just a tank. Panas18 has been working for me for 8 years already. It's a very cool stove, that's why I chose Steba DD2 with membrane buttons, all these sensors start to fail over time.
Masinen
Quote: Vasya Fufaikin
Masinen
The difference between Steba DD1 and Steba DD2 is huge. Firstly, in terms of temperature coverage, and secondly, the Simmering + mode with a variable temperature in one degree increments from 80-150 degrees. Changing the temperature in the heating mode from 30-80 degrees, now you can easily make even kefir, not to mention yoghurts, as well as Sous-vide.

Yeah, thanks for telling

shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Uncle Sam--

And my son accidentally put a saucepan on a burning burner and noticed only when it smelled

Of course, nothing especially happened, but the bottom of the fry seemed to become pimples
It does not affect cooking, well, maybe the dairy has become sticky, but it's not critical

And why did I climb and could not find a new cup
Masinen
Vasya Fufaikin, I have both in a silver case and the heating does not turn off for me, BUT
Quote: S-t
Yes, there is a new batch of DD2 XL for which the heating does not turn on automatically. You can distinguish it without opening the package. The EAC mark is printed on the box of new models, and the old sticker or even the Rostest logo is applied to the old ones. When buying, a new model will probably arrive, but ... there are still remnants of the old model in the air store and I don't know what they will bring.
Vasya Fufaikin
Quote: Masinen

Vasya Fufaikin, I have both in a silver case and the heating does not turn off for me, BUT

By the way, it is not clear why this necessary function is not installed in all Steba models.Although, we cook all products that require a low-temperature mode on the HEATING program, where after the cooking time it turns off, so there are no problems. The HEATING mode works from 30-80 degrees and for a programmable time. But on other programs, HEATING will turn on automatically after cooking. Therefore, I think it is not very critical if the soup or roast is heated for 4 hours at a temperature of 70 degrees.
valushka-s
Quote: Vasya Fufaikin

valushka-s
I wrote Marta, you probably don't know that Lumme and Marta are the same brand. As far as I know, there will be no more new Lumme models.


Added Saturday 17 Sep 2016 12:54 PM


prubul
You may disagree, but THIS IS THE MAIN RULE WHEN COOKING BROWS AND ANYWHERE !!! Vegetables are fried separately. This is what they teach in France, where my friend now works as a cook in a very expensive restaurant. Putting meat in cold water is not a whim, but knowledge of physics and chemistry, the return of all the taste qualities of meat occurs more intensely from cold water.

Vasya Fufaikin, I know that, but the one to whom you are answering may not be in the know!
Lummochki are on sale and work great!

By the way, meat is put in hot water when they want to get richer and tastier meat, and in cold water so that both the broth and the meat are tasty.

Excuse me, Vasya Fufaikin but you are not the ultimate truth, and you argue even with those (for example, Mashulya) who are more knowledgeable in some issues! Masha, she tests a lot of equipment, and has a lot of equipment in use, some of her (deservedly) are provided to the company for testing. Masha on Shtebki "ate the dog" and studied them well, there is no point in arguing about this.
Girls, I am of course very happy with Shtebochka, but .... I do not perceive it as a slow cooker. But this is my opinion, and I do not impose it on anyone. I will never give up on my multicooker. It's best to have a tandem, a cartoon + a fast food!
Miranda
Quote: prubul
steba 1 is cheaper and when you consider. that you buy 3 devices in 1, then you can take on credit in ozone

It seems to me that advising a person to take out a loan is not correct.
Any cartoon or short-cut thing in the household is, of course, necessary, but not enough to overpay 30-40% for it, when asking the question that there is not much money initially.

Better to buy the same March 1989.
According to reviews here and on the internet, she is a very worthy friend, with a non-stick bowl, 1 degree increments, and a lot of everything.
gala10
Quote: valushka-s
It is best to have a tandem, a cartoon + a cartoon!
And also a baby for porridge.
valushka-s
Quote: gala10

And also a baby for porridge.
exactly!
Recently, if I want porridge, I get the baby Redik (although I don’t love Redov, and I’ll never buy this brand for myself.) The kid is great! Cooks porridge well
Vasya Fufaikin
valushka-s

Older Lumme models are still on sale. Regarding putting meat in hot water, I will not even prove anything to you here, the rules of haute cuisine are not for everyone, so not everyone can cook many dishes as tasty as in an expensive restaurant, where master chefs devoted a lot of time to studying the theory of cooking and trained abroad. Do you personally know me ??? Do you know who I am by education, do you know if I can give advice on cooking ??? I have a lot of cars in my family, but I am not an auto mechanic, I have many hours of use, but I am not a watchmaker, I hope you understand me. I often visit very expensive restaurants, and I am also friends with many chefs, including one of my friends who works as a chef in France. There is a technology for cooking, and there is also such a profession as a technologist at all enterprises that produce food, where deviations and self-activity when laying are unacceptable. Personally, I will answer you: "Do not reinvent the wheel, smart people invented it a long time ago, and it is smooth and rides correctly." All this was immortalized in books, for those who want to have knowledge, and not engage in illiterate amateur performances and consider themselves a great cook !!! "
Irlarsen
Quote: valushka-s
Girls, I'm of course very happy with Shtebochka, but .... I don't perceive her as a slow cooker. But this is my opinion, and I do not impose it on anyone.
I do not impose either, but my opinion is the same. Shteba is a good pressure cooker with multicooker elements.
Just like Kuzina, this is an excellent air fryer, which can also be used as a cartoon, but it is still not very correct to call these both devices multicooker.
Vasya Fufaikin
Quote: Miranda

It seems to me that advising a person to take out a loan is not correct.
Any cartoon or short-cut thing in the household is, of course, necessary, but not enough to overpay 30-40% for it, when asking the question that there is not much money initially.

Better to buy the same March 1989.
According to reviews here and on the internet, she is a very worthy friend, with a non-stick bowl, 1 degree increments, and a lot of everything.

I agree under your every word. March 1989 - a very worthy multicooker for the price and quality !!!
Masinen
Quote: valushka-s
It is best to have a tandem, a cartoon + a cartoon!

Valya, that's right, I love so much too! But two pressure cookers and 1 cartoon are better!
valushka-s
Mashul, and this is for everyone according to his needs (families, budget, needs ... everyone is different)
Masinen
Quote: Miranda
It seems to me that advising a person to take out a loan is not correct.
Any cartoon or short-cut thing in the household is, of course, necessary, but not enough to overpay 30-40% for it, when asking the question that there is not much money initially.
I agree that you should not take on credit, especially multicooker.

By the way, you can buy Shteba not expensive, the main thing is to look well. I gave links to places where the price is normal)
valushka-s, yeah))
Irlarsen
By the way, about the bike
Personally, I grew up in the days when pasta was poured into boiling water and then poured into a colander. Now what? We fill up the pasta in the cartoon, fill it with cold water, press the button and leave. We do not drain anything. The result is excellent
So the bicycle can and should be reinvented
Anna1957
I do not take sides in the dispute, but since 5th grade, from home economics lessons. I learned that if you want a tasty broth, put the meat in cold water, if you want tasty meat, pour boiling water over it. She confirmed this knowledge at the institute. This applies to all protein products - the protein folds up, preventing the juice from going out into the intercellular space.
Masinen
Quote: Vasya Fufaikin
By the way, it is not clear why this necessary function is not installed in all Steba models. Although, we cook all products that require a low-temperature mode on the HEATING program, where after the cooking time it turns off, so there are no problems. The HEATING mode works from 30-80 degrees and for a programmable time. But on other programs, HEATING will turn on automatically after cooking. Therefore, I think it is not very critical if the soup or roast is heated for 4 hours at a temperature of 70 degrees.
More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...om_smf&topic=158832.10980
Who would have known, the Germans just don't need this function at all. The fewer buttons they are, the better, but in general they need one button to turn on and the second to turn off.
This function was made especially for Russians, and also expanded the temperature range exclusively for Russians.
For the Germans, the heating is not regulated at all and there is simply 70 grams displayed and that's it.
So all these innovations are made exclusively by order for Russia))
Chef
Quote: Miranda
It seems to me that advising a person to take out a loan is not correct.
Quite right. The one who took out a consumer loan is a criminal before his children and subsequent generations (perhaps to a slightly lesser extent than the one who gave the loan).
Ekaterina2
I made up my mind yesterday! I have chosen! The month of my hesitation has ended: beautiful, ugly, reliable, unreliable, and so on.
I chose Shteba DD2.
And ..... not a single store in my favorite city has Shteba !!! !!!! !!!!
gala10
Katerina, in our city, too. Online shopping only.
Ekaterina2
gala10, something I am afraid of such a thing on the Internet ... I'll have to either wait, or buy in Yekaterinburg in November
gala10
Katerina, and I bought almost all of my kitchen appliances in online stores.
Sedne
Katerina, and what to fear, the Comfort maximum calmly changes if that and Ozone too.
AnastasiaK
Ekaterina2, I have already lost count of how much and what equipment I bought on the Internet. And then we either do not have what I want at all, or the prices are sky-high. Example - I bought Redmond 01 and 02 for 1990 rubles. (minus points all sorts), and we have from 6000 rubles! ... It made sense to take a chance. Everything came whole and working, pah-pah-pah.
Ekaterina2
gala10, I usually buy through the online store, and then I go to the store and pick it up. Sedne, I dealt with Ozone. With maximum comfort, no. Delivery to us is expensive. But I will definitely look both there and there. Tomorrow, today I won't see a normal Internet ...


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AnastasiaK, also something to take a chance ... otherwise I really want
Sedne
Katerina, of course, take the risk, good stores, if anything happens, will change without question.
mamusi
Girls who have Hitachi Multicooker ~ I cannot find it on our forum. Respond, you need to ask about it, learn about the recipes.
Ekaterina2
There is Shteba on the ozone. There is a "discounted product - opened packaging, a complete set". Cheaper by 800 rubles. Take?
gala10
Katerina, I got a discounted kneader from Ozone and another electric grocery cutter. Everything works great. (mmm ...)
Vasya Fufaikin
Ekaterina2
Order on Ozone and don't even worry. I am in Ukraine and am going to order an additional one from them. bowl. The store is very serious and the reviews are very good. I hope the moderators will not delete this post, like my previous one
Vitaok
Ekaterina2, I also ordered Shteba from Ozone as a discounted product due to the opened packaging and everything came in excellent condition. True, the O-ring was one instead of two.
Ekaterina2
Quote: Vitaok
True, the O-ring was one instead of two.
But this is not good on their part. They then sell this ring additionally, it turns out, and almost no savings come out - saving 800, ring 500.
sveta-Lana
Can you tell me more, please, will it be problematic to cook one portion of milk porridge in a 5-liter bowl?
The fact is that besides me there will be no one to eat porridge,
I don't want to buy a multicooker for each dish, it is advisable to use one,
since the kitchen is small, there is no extra space and money too
gala10
Quote: sveta-Lana
will it be problematic to boil one portion of milk porridge in a 5 liter bowl?
Svetlana, here is one portion of porridge cooked in a 5-liter bowl:
Choosing a multicookerPortion porridge in a water bath (multicooker Brand 37501)
(Rick)
Wildebeest
sveta-Lana, one portion of porridge can be cooked in any multicooker or pressure cooker with a large volume, but this will require an additional container.
And so, we put either a rag or silicone in the bowl on the bottom, pour a small amount of water, put a jar or clay pot with all the components of our future porridge, set the desired mode and wait.
Thus, I cooked three different cereals in cans at the same time.
SAV
Good day!
Please help me choose a multicooker.
A family of two, I don't know how to cook, I have to put it down and that's it.
Need a steamer mode.
Thank you
sveta-Lana
Galina, Sveta, TatyanaThanks a lot for the tips!
I wouldn't have thought of this for sure
well, everything, now the last doubts about the volume of the bowl have disappeared, I will definitely buy 5 liters
Vasya Fufaikin
SAV
Any multicooker has this mode. I would advise you to take a closer look at the multicooker pressure cookers. It is the pressure cooker that will help you cook delicious food VERY quickly without any problems. I know many people who do not have love and knowledge in cooking, but they are happy to cook many dishes with one tab in the pressure cooker. By the way, the method is proven in Russia. They heated the stove, then put the products necessary for cooking this or that dish into a cauldron, filled it with water and put it in the stove overnight, in the morning the food was ready and tasty !!! In a pressure cooker, this process takes place under pressure and very quickly.

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