Pizza makers: Princess 115000-01, Tristar, GF, Travola, Clatroniс, etc. (2)

Good night everybody! Thank you for your feedback and advice! But opinions differed. To be honest, no one definitely advises P1 or P2. Probably because p2 came out not so long ago and many have already used P1 and there was no point in buying the second one, so not everyone can compare of course. They wrote to me that you don't even need to think, but buying P2 times newer means better and better. Someone the other way around🙈
I even thought to order both and choose. Or one of them, which you like less, return or give mom for New Year)))
I'm the only one so indecisive probably 🙈
Who else is using P2?

[Caroline]

Caroline, I have P2, very happy. I can't compare with P1, I don't have, but P2 is ideal for me (I'll knock on wood for everyone), nothing burns, everything bakes quickly, I fry a little in it, there are other toys for this, but almost everything is baked in it.

Somewhere at the beginning of these topics, they wrote about the operation of such devices that foil is not recommended.

I (as always) did not read the instructions, so it is difficult for me to understand how the foil can harm the coating. I also use a Teflon mat, so as not to wash, the foil can be convenient if you do something in portions and, for lack of explanation, I cannot decide whether to do something in the foil or not.

[Caroline]

Caroline, why not buy Tristar

[absolutely]

n2 was released not so long ago

Before its release, there was / is Tristar, absolutely the same and we have been using it for a long time and with success, as well as P2 and P1.
The first (for me), of course, was P1, after which Tristar and I sighed calmly! After P1, Tristar seems perfect
P2 is exactly the same.
This, of course, is just my opinion and my experience.

it is difficult for me to understand how the foil can harm the coating.

I support and also do not understand about the foil and how it can damage the coating, if it is not spoiled by any forms, nor all kinds of rugs.
The only thing I can agree on is that you cannot, probably, use a foil wrapped in an envelope, it will puff up and burst, this is dangerous, but not for covering, but for the user.
And, if I remember correctly, at the very beginning it was about this.

[RepeShock]

Goodnight! Do you use a thermostat or always bake at the maximum?
What are your favorite "toys" for frying? I have practically no devices. There are waffle makers of different shapes for children and an electric grill gf.




RepeShockI haven't read anything about Tristar. If I consider the third option, I won't buy anything at all

[depending on what is being prepared]

Do you use a thermostat or always bake at the maximum?

I have already answered this question to you:

When working with these stoves, you need to know one thing, start cooking at the maximum, then, depending on what is being prepared, you can reduce the temp-py, then increase again, if necessary.

And to be honest, until you buy and try this oven yourself, no one will decide for you whether you need it, whether you like cooking in it and how it works.
Therefore, you need to buy and start using and come here for advice if something does not work out.
Or not buy and calm down.

If I consider the third option, I will not buy anything at all

Tristar differs from P2 only in the color of the body, it is black. Therefore, it is easier here to choose a color, red (P2) or black (Tristar).
If you expect universal use, then, of course, you need to take with a temperature controller. I can tell you this for sure.Because frying, for example, cutlets, without a regulator is simply impossible, they start to burn dull and you have to pull the plug out of the socket, instead of making the temperature just smaller with the regulator.

thanks for the answer

Happy choice!

[RepeShock]

RepeShock, I will not make cutlets in it. I want to use mainly for pies and other pastries: casseroles, pizza, gratin.

Cutlets are just an example.
Casseroles generally don't like aggressive temperatures.
Pizza doesn't care if it's baked for no more than 15 minutes.

[Cirre]

Cirre, Hello! They just wrote to me about him. They say that P2 and Tristar are the same, color difference. 🤔

[Caroline]

Caroline, choose what you like. There are many different (ovens)

I think I'll take P2. Thank you

So I went to Temka to say thank you, and the message has probably already been deleted, but I still managed to buy P1 for 2200, I already took 3 pieces for gifts for the new year. Thanks to the one who provided the link and the magic word.

I went to the site, but the promo code was gone. The price is of course gorgeous.

[Caroline]

Caroline, if you are still tuned in to the Princess, do not suffer and take P-2. If, God forbid, she comes across defective, will bake for an hour, as the girls wrote, or just don't like it, hand it back quickly. Within 2 weeks in any store, and even longer in Ozone. I advise you to take in Ozone, as a last resort, in Comfort Maximum, where the delivery will be cheaper. In both of these stores, you can safely hand over or change. In Ozone, it is definitely given back, and then a new one is bought, there is no so-called exchange. In Comfort, I don't know how to exchange. You better not exchange, but hand over and buy a new one. Suddenly after P-2 you want P-1.

or you just don't like it, hand it back quickly

In the sense of?

[Larssevsk]

Larssevsk, Larissa! I meant that within 14 days a person has the right to return the goods back without giving any reason. Or do you want to ask why you might not like it? But you never know? Maybe the color won't work or you won't like the way the regulator turns?

managed to buy P1 for 2200

well done!!!!! you will never regret

but the promo code was gone

there are 115,000 shares on Travola and the Princess,

[Masha Ivanova]

Masha Ivanova, thanks, I will probably do so. There is also a tvideo website. There are the cheapest prices for princess products. Delivery is not cheap, but it is still cheaper than ozone. I will find out how there is a return.



Masha Ivanova, even if the item was used, right? I somehow returned the heater, but this is different, of course. thanks for the advice

[Caroline]

Carolineas far as I remember, even if it was used. But I won't say for sure, maybe the girls will clarify. For this reason, I talked about Ozone and said that they would definitely take it back anyway.

[Masha Ivanova]

Masha Ivanova, I found it on the site for a good price. 2550

[Caroline]

Caroline, for 2550 which model?

P1. There is still delivery. I ordered both models, delivery for both 400 rubles. Price P1 2540, P2-3190. 7 days return, even when used

[Caroline]

Caroline, generally excellent! Good luck to you! Choose in advance the dishes you will cook to meet the weekly deadline. And just in case, buy one Teflon rug, this is the cheapest thing that can prevent burning and will always be useful to you, no matter which stove you end up with. We are waiting for the results of your experiments.

[Masha Ivanova]

Masha Ivanova, I advise the site Everything is much cheaper there! Thank you!

maybe the girls will clarify

I'll clarify. Used household appliances cannot be used without explanation! Or not used or if there is a marriage.

[Caroline]

Caroline, Carolina, thank you very much! You approach the choice of a store, naturally, as a resident of Moscow. And many of the members of the forum, including myself, as residents of other cities, where often from Moscow online stores, where the goods are cheap, delivery is expensive. Sometimes it is more profitable for us to order in a store with rather expensive prices, but cheap or free delivery, in particular, on Ozone. The result is more profitable for us.

[Caroline]

Caroline, I have P2, I am paranoid and lay the paper, and on top of a thin aluminum form with a fuflon royery, I'm afraid of damaging the P2 coating with the shape. Nothing steamed - I bake at the maximum

The result is more profitable for us.

And, most importantly, there are no problems with the return. With real, not written somewhere.

[RepeShock]

RepeShock, Ira! That's for sure! Checked a hundred times.

[Masha Ivanova]

Masha Ivanova, I did not see that you are not from Moscow. Then yes, of course ozone! In Moscow, the difference with ozone is 800, or even 1000 r

The only thing I can agree on is that you cannot, probably, use a foil wrapped in an envelope, it will puff up and burst, this is dangerous, but not for covering, but for the user.
And, if I remember correctly, at the very beginning it was about this.

A. Well, if this is the case, then everything is clear and I support. Now the question has been removed, that's what the collective mind means!

Speaking of casseroles, girls, how are you doing? In shape or straight to the Pr? Is it difficult to take out without a form? Even with a rug or paper?

[Masha Ivanova]

Masha Ivanova, Masha Ivanova, the mat has a mesh too. Tell me what you can cook to see the difference between the stoves? Maybe, you know from experience, show dishes.
Girls, share and you, please.



Another question: should you put food in a preheated oven or in a cold one and then turn it on?

[Caroline]

CarolineMost often, they put it in a cold one, it is easier with the dough, and it is still baked no more than 20-25 minutes from the cold one.

I don't know if this will help you understand the difference or not, but I would make a pizza, you will immediately see how the bottom is baked.

[Caroline]

Caroline, I advise you to watch the video of our Tanyulya, she has different stoves and she cooks them and bakes

[Caroline]

Caroline, Carolina! My name is Elena.
1. About the Tanyulins video. I'm not sure she has a P-2. And there is definitely no comparison between them.
2. Bake the pizza, as Deana advises, see how soon the bottom turns brown.
3. Fry some wet vegetables, where a lot is evaporated, see where and at what speed the evaporation is going on, how moist the dish will turn out.
4. Bake any thick cake or any pie made from yeast dough with a filling (that is, from such a dough that the cake or cake rises almost to the top of the Princess), and see if the top is reddened, how reddened it is, how quickly it browns.
And it is advisable to do all this at once in two copies, simultaneously in P-1 and in P-2, since we are talking about choosing between them. Something like that.

And it is advisable to do all this at once in two copies - simultaneously

And so that the dishes are exactly the same, from the same products.
Otherwise, comparison on different products will not provide any comparative analysis.

I honestly don't see any need for this)))) in comparison, in the sense.

Ira! The person has already ordered 2 stoves, and is going to leave only one. So you have to compare. And the fact that from the same products, it goes without saying. Otherwise, what is the point of comparison?

Otherwise, what is the point of comparison?

And nevertheless, we do this) and also draw conclusions)) and people read and believe.

And even videos show where the fillings are different!

[Caroline]

Come on, even after all, what the soul will fall for, maybe one will immediately look and it will not be so important who does what faster or better.

Caroline, good luck with your choice! In any case, you will not go wrong.

And I won the cookies in the GF). It was necessary, however, to be more sophisticated so as not to burn. The best option turned out to be a pizza mold, which does not lie on the bottom, but hangs between the top and bottom, and silicone is on it. Photos, of course not ice, but super cookies)). It's on beer dough

Lenchik, cool cookies What recipe did you bake?

Larisa, thank you) According to grandmother's recipe. The forum has a very similar https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=453184.0
But most importantly, these are the first successful cookies in the GF)). Still, I made friends with him

I baked "The easiest charlotte for a Princess" at the weekend. I have a P2 Form of 28 cm. I did not put anything in and did not cover it with anything. 20 minutes.at the maximum and here's the result. The bottom and top are well baked. It turned out delicious.

Well done you with PP

Thank you. I myself did not think that we would develop friendship with her. I usually have some problems with the technique. I want to try baking Ossetian pies. I hope my hands and P2 will not let me down.

Maybe someone will need information on the Proffi PH7815 airfryer. The son brought her home tonight. It was delivered to the point of issue in the packaging from the manufacturer (no one opened it). Everything was fine - all the glasses were in place, not broken. Yes, it is not small, the diameter is 46cm, but there are handles on top for which it is convenient to move it, and they, together with other legs, can serve as a stand for a protrusion. There are 2 switches on the control panel - on, off the lower and upper shade, you can turn it on. both, and it is possible separately (diameter of the tena 25cm), temperature regulator 0-300 degrees, gradation in 25 gr. Inside the stove there is a lattice stand, a round pallet, the distance between the shades is 13.5 cm (at Shteba 28 Eco is 17 cm), but here there is a large protruding diameter. The windows are located on top (it is very convenient to watch the preparation), from the side window you can fully view the entire dish. There is also a hand on the side, twisting which, you can reduce the heat inside (like in a miracle of the oven). There are ventilation holes on the surface on top and on the sides. When cooking at a given temperature, the stove is periodically turned off, while the lights are off, but when it is turned on. they glow red. The stove opens and closes like medical boxes - with a latch. That's all the description. I tried to cook sausages in ready-made yeast dough. I put 150g and after 15 minutes they were ready, but they were fried less on the side of the side window, turned the baking sheet over and fried it additionally. In general, I liked the stove - a beautiful dark cherry color, heats up normally, large volume, easy to move. For a summer residence, it's just a godsend - a functional large-volume stove, which is not a shame to put on the table and watch the cooking. And the price of a song in general is 2335 rubles. It reminds me of something in between the miracle oven used by our grandmothers and the Czech Remoski ovens. The first acquaintance with the stove is the most positive, if there is where to put it, then I advise you to purchase it.






Rita, these are not eclairs, but sausages in dough at different stages of preparation. I liked how it bakes - you can see everything, you can quickly adjust the temperature, turn off unnecessary shades and open the holes on the side. And how beautiful it is - like a cherry on the table. As for heating, it gets hot, but in order to get burned, you need to thoroughly put and hold your hand on the device, not to burn yourself from a simple touch. I ordered a stove on WB on Friday at this price, and now they have gone up a bit. But all the same, this price is not comparable with the Shteba stove, where the price starts from 10t.r. (almost 5 times cheaper). And the functions are almost the same, but there is no timer. But on the other hand, it heats up very quickly and you don't have to wait 10 minutes until it reaches the set temperature. Rita, you have a Steba stove, I really don't know what the diameter of the stone is. and what is the height between the shadows. You can also put a stone and a stove in this one, but I don't have one, so I baked on what was in the kit. Again, the price is very nice.

Rita, of course she is bigger - the outer diameter is 46cm, and in the place where the block is located is 50cm. Today I will not cook anything on it, maybe my husband is at home. I will try on Saturday in daylight, otherwise the photos are dark at night.

Yes. for everyday pizza - ideal. GF is also conveniently stored vertically. and all his rugs are inside. Yesterday the minced meat was left over, I got the cutlets into it in 5 minutes). Yes, cool, convenient, which is always at hand.

Girls, good afternoon! Thank you for the topic, for a week I suffered from the torment of choice, I thought and read, read and thought ... Finally I chose GFgril and I am very happy! It suits my tasks perfectly: very often I cook vegetables-fish-seafood, sometimes pizza-casseroles-syrniki-pancakes, rarely charlotte-clafoutis, I don't bake complex and sweet pastries at all.I don't see any shortcomings in it yet, the thermostat and timer were the defining options for me. For casseroles and charlottes, I use a Pyrex glass pan, everything else I fry-bake without any rugs and molds, it is very easy to clean, nothing burns with the right choice of temperature and cooking time. For such purposes, I highly recommend))

Girls, hi-hi! I have long wanted to ask about Tristar (and at the same time about P2) - as far as I remember, they wrote that Tristar has holes on the bottom. Is the steam actually coming out of there and not dripping condensation from the lid?
It looks like it's ripe for buying Tristarchik (while discounts and gift money remained) in addition to its P1 (for baking) and Klatronic (for meat / vegetables, like a grill). Just knowing how the Clathron works, I wonder how the process in Tristar is going on?
I apologize in advance, if there was such a discussion - I have not entered Temka for a very long time