irusik_77
girls, please explain to me the BASIC of the ESO staff differ only in yogurt cups and a stand with a double boiler? I look at the ozone, BASIC has a Timer, Temperature adjustment (and it is declared as a multi-cooker-pressure cooker), the EU only has a timer (and it is declared as a Multi-cooker-pressure cooker-slow cooker) so there are differences in them or only in the filling of the set (cups for yogurt, steamer with stand)
Masinen
irusik_77, Irina, only the difference in configuration, the same function.
irusik_77
MasinenThank you very much Maria
anavi
Girls, please advise how and in what mode to cook jellied meat. Why I ask - I've read that under pressure it is not so tasty. This is true? Or not to steam, and just cook - Soup or Meat under pressure for 2 hours?
anavi
Masha, I have studied this. Interested in an alternative, longer option - will it be better to taste or not?


Added Sunday December 18, 2016 7:54 PM

After all, when it boils strongly, can the broth be muddy? Does it boil and boil under pressure? But it seems like it should gurgle ... Hence my questions ...
Bijou
Quote: anavi
Does it boil and boil under pressure?
Why??
Is, for example, your milk porridge boiling and bubbling? I always have a clean lid. If I won't open it ahead of time.
liusia
Olga, the jellied meat in Shtebochka turns out to be very tasty, the broth is transparent. I have cooked jellied meat in different ways in my life, and Shteba cooks it amazingly delicious. I cook on ave. Meat, and on ave. Soup. I didn't notice the difference in taste. The photo shows that the broth is transparent.
anavi
Thank you girls,: rose: I will do it at Shteba. It's just that I cooked jellied meat only once - in the Polaris cartoon, for 6 hours. So I doubted. And from Shtebochka in general I bastard - the earth and the sky with the Fields!
Natusichka
I got used to my Shtebochka, I can't imagine how I used to live without her.
Now, if I start to cook something in Panasonic, I cannot understand what is wrong ...
And the other day, the dotsya called and said: "Something's broken for me Panasonic ... so slowly began to cook!"

Here I realized that it was not Panasonic that broke down, but Stebochka spoiled us!
Fotina
Girls, we have owners and staffs, and Ourrson?
I have dd1, right from the very beginning of the topic)))
All the years there were no complaints, I was completely satisfied,
I didn't even covet dd2)

Some time ago, electronics began to junk.
Probably, she has grown old, and is preparing for another world.)
Now I began to look at dd2. And I also like outwardly ourrson -
Almost all models. I don't even know - should I cheat on the staff with ourrson?
Or not worth it? Chur, do not offer to buy both))
Sedne
Svetlana, I have both Ourrson and Steba, I don't like baking in Ourrson, the yoghurt overheats, as well as ham and sous in Steba, I find it easier to do. For me, Ourrson is more beautiful than Shteba, he cooks meat and soups very well (but Shteba also cooks them well), and perhaps more reliable than Shteba, that is, he has fewer complaints about a breakdown. And in Ourrson, I really like the bowl. I have 5015.
Arka
I have Ourson 5002 and Shteba xl.
I like stewed meat and jellied meat more from Ourson. I like baking better ... in the oven. Otherwise, the differences are not significant.
In Ourson, the coated bowl is incomparable, but in Stebe it is steel, which I think is generally cool, you don't need to tremble over it.


Added on Tuesday 20 Dec 2016 11:19 PM

And I can only make a suvid in Shtebe, my Ourson does not have similar settings.
lena_letochka
Girls, I got my Stebik.Yesterday I drove with lemon, steam came from the valve, sprinkled straight in all directions. Today I unscrewed, straightened the gum, set the pork tongue to cook. The steam does not joke, it quietly makes a noise.
Confused by the fact that the lid on one side does not sit tightly. The gaps are visually larger than the other. I adjusted the bezel. The steam from the slots does not play, but from one corner of the hole between the lid about 0.5 cm. On the other diagonally opposite side there is no slot.
Is this a crooked cap norm? Look at yours, pliz. This is not reflected in cooking, but this curvature is annoying.
marinastom
Congratulations!
Read "Basic Usage ..."
Masha Ivanova
lena_letochka, "crooked" lid, this is normal. I did not measure the size of the gap, but it is.
lena_letochka
Quote: marinastom

Congratulations!
Read "Basic Usage ..."
Thank you for your congratulations
I read
I read about the dangling valve, read about the dangling lid, but I didn’t read about the curvature of the lid.
Yes, and live feedback is more important, it is clear that we are newbies, experienced, got tired of our stupid questions, but I noticed that the forum consists of very positive, sincere people

It's just that I'm still testing the multicooker for defects and jambs, so there are so many questions.
Here I cooked the pork tongue for 35 minutes on the meat pressure mode 0.7. I digested a little (increased the time by 5 minutes, because it was a little frozen).

Question: the lid and the pan were covered in flakes of protein, it was seething very strongly (it was heard) Who cooked in this mode - is this the norm?
Or is the dirty lid a charge for speed?
The broth is transparent, but with a taste of yesterday's lemon.
Masinen
Quote: lena_letochka
Is this a crooked cap norm? Look at yours, pliz. This is not reflected in cooking, but this curvature is annoying.
This is the norm, such a construction. The pressure lifts the lid.

Quote: lena_letochka
the lid and the pan were covered in flakes of protein, it was boiling very strongly (it was heard) Who cooked in this mode - is this the norm?

How much broth was there, whole bowl? Most likely, while there was no pressure, the broth was boiling and splattered on the lid, this is normal.
You can pour up to the MAX mark
Lane
lena_letochka, I have dd2 for about three months. I managed to cook a lot of things in it. The lid was never dirty. And there is no distortion in the lid.

Thanks to this forum, I chose the model, the locals were the most convincing) And so far I am very happy with everything (mmm), thank you all very much for the feedback!
lena_letochka
Quote: Leina

lena_letochka, I have dd2 for about three months. I managed to cook a lot of things in it. The lid was never dirty. And there is no distortion in the lid.
Thanks, I will test it again. I want to figure out what's the matter. Maybe in an O-ring? When removing the lid, it firmly holds the pan (it even raised it yesterday, although the pressure was released) and probably jumps out for this.
So the most interesting thing is that not only the lid turned out to be dirty, but also there were drips behind the pan (I noticed today)
Now I will salt the soup into another pot and start experimenting with water.
I hope for the Machine help and collective intelligence



Added Wednesday 21 Dec 2016 12:04 PM

Another question I have is that the O-ring sits tightly only on one side, on the other hand it dangles, that is, this metal rim is too far from the cover and the O-ring all the time, not that it falls out completely, but the groove in the middle of the ring is not in the metal rim.
Is this the norm?
SvetaI
lena_letochka, in theory at 0.7 it should work like this:
First there is heating. Then the contents of the pot boil. At this moment from the hole of the float really
Quote: lena_letochka
hisses and spits
This continues for a few seconds, then the float rises (you described this as:
Quote: lena_letochka
the hole next to the black valve was closed with a metal figurine
)
and the hissing stops. If you listen closely, you can hear that the liquid inside the pan is boiling - gurgling. This is also short-lived, depending on the amount of liquid. Finally, the pressure builds up, the sounds stop and the countdown begins on the scoreboard. During operation, the black valve sometimes hisses quietly - relieves excess pressure.
If the ring is not standing correctly, steam is coming out from under the lid, the liquid inside is boiling for a long time, at this moment it can really stain the lid.
If I cook a full pot of soup, the lid is usually dirty, even with the ring properly worn; if I am stewing meat, the lid is clean.
If you open a hot pot and close it again, and the black valve is in the "closed" position, the float can indeed rise, but if you open the valve, it immediately falls. This is normal.


Added Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:13 PM

Quote: lena_letochka
Another question I have is that the O-ring sits tightly only on one side, on the other hand it dangles, that is, this metal rim is too far from the cover and the O-ring all the time, not that it falls out completely, but the groove in the middle of the ring is not in the metal rim. Is this the norm?
I have it too. Just train yourself to automatically adjust the bezel before closing the lid. And everything will be alright
marinastom
I think all newbies have similar questions. I bought Stebu after two years of using Mulinex and did not immediately move in either.
From a cold state, yes, a pan to the eyeballs, yes, it takes a long time, a hot initial one is faster.
Everything will be fine! Get used to it, get used to it!
Masinen
lena_letochka, honestly, I don’t understand such a panic
Your pot is normal, everything is normal. Why find fault with every little thing.
You have never had a pressure cooker and you do not understand how it works and because of this all your problems.
The ring has nothing to do with it and nothing to do with the catryul.
And nothing to do with marriage.

Calm down and watch the pressure cooker and do not knock, it will lock the lid by itself and without any knocking.

And if you thought that Shteba does everything automatically, then you should have bought a Bork or Kuku Pressure cooker with an electronic valve and now they do everything themselves.


Shteba is a mechanical pressure cooker, and it works like it does)))
Need to get used to it
lena_letochka
Quote: Masinen

lena_letochka, honestly, I don’t understand such a panic
Your pot is normal, everything is normal. Why find fault with every little thing.
You have never had a pressure cooker and you do not understand how it works and because of this all your problems.
The ring has nothing to do with it and nothing to do with the catryul.
And nothing to do with marriage.

Calm down and watch the pressure cooker and do not knock, it will lock the lid by itself and without any knocking.

And if you thought that Shteba does everything automatically, then you should have bought a Bork or Kuku Pressure cooker with an electronic valve and now they do everything themselves.

Mash, I'm just trying to understand what is the norm, what is not ... slowly I begin to understand, and stock up on a tambourine and spells ...
I received a new device, I want to check it, you say as if there is no marriage in Shteb.
Open and close the lid several times so that the float becomes as it should - is this not the norm, or the norm?
Well, the lid does not close normally the first time, and even from the second it is not always, not with a corrected sealing ring, it is not so easy ...
I want to get positive emotions from cooking, I do not find fault, but I want to understand the principle of operation, but I have my first pressure cooker, but for some reason everything does not work out very quickly and from the third time ...

Sveta, I tried to press on the lid - it doesn't help, I'm afraid to knock. It only helps if you open it, and try to close it when the float rises ... washed with detergent ...

Quote: Masinen

lena_letochka, honestly, I don’t understand such a panic

Calm down and watch the pressure cooker and do not knock, it will lock the lid by itself and without any knocking.

Masha, I waited half an hour on the soup program until the pressure builds up (the pan was hot) and how long can I watch when it boils, and the float does not rise and the lid does not block? ... I twisted the lid again, screwed it on somehow, and only then it began to work.
Well, it's not a matter of constantly guarding and waiting for it to work this time or not ... Mechanical, but not so much that you open and close the lid a hundred times
Masinen
lena_letochka, I understand that everything is not clear yet))

No need to knock.
The pressure build-up time depends on the filling of the pan.
Try to push the float back and forth, maybe it touches something and therefore the lid does not lock.
Try and write., I'm waiting)
lena_letochka
Quote: Masinen

lena_letochka, I understand that everything is not clear yet))

No need to knock.
The pressure build-up time depends on the filling of the pan.
Try to push the float back and forth, maybe it touches something and therefore the lid does not lock.
Try and write., I'm waiting)
Masha, I took apart the float and washed it. I thought the protein from the meat suddenly stuck. It consists of a gasket and a metal contraption.
I didn't unscrew the big nut, maybe it was necessary.
Now I blew off the steam, opened the valve, opened the lid, looked at the O-ring, straightened it, closed it - the float did not block the lid, despite the fact that the pan is getting hot steam from it, the valve is closed.
I do the same thing again - it blocks.
I do the same thing again - no ... it does not block ...
It shouldn't be like that! For all the same initial results, the result is different.



Added Wednesday, December 21, 2016 2:07 PM

I'm running away for a couple of hours now, I'll come and continue to test.
Rick
lena_letochka, do you have a spare ring included? If so, try putting it on. My own ring also dangles and needs to be fixed before cooking. And the spare sits tightly. Since this staff is not my first, a loose ring did not become a problem for me. I just adjusted the ring for a long time before cooking.
I'll tell you why I changed the ring. I decided to boil the beets. I had it large and with tails. Well, as it was, I put it in a saucepan, poured it with water, the tails stick out, and, okay, I straightened the ring, closed the lid. Well at least I wasn't going to go anywhere. My beets started to boil, as steam came out from under the lid, PPC ... Okay, I think, probably, the ring didn't fit right. Opened, checked, closed, turned on. Again steam from under the lid In short, so three times ... Already the beets are boiled, and the lid is not blocked. I am in shock (how I will be without a head), my husband too (how much a new one costs). Then I remembered the spare ring. Changed, no sense As a result, it turned out that the tail of the beets fell between the pan and the lid and because of this steam poured out from under the lid, although the float rose at the same time.

I still don't understand. Why is Lena's lid so dirty? I have, no matter how much I cook, the lid is always clean.

lena_letochka, I understand your despair. I wish you to make friends with the staff and enjoy cooking in it for many, many years!
lena_letochka
Quote: Masinen

lena_letochka, such waving that the float catches and cannot rise
Masha, this float consists of how many parts? Silicone ring and pimples on which it is worn? Apart from the bolt, which for some reason does not turn. Or should there be something else?
Now she came and continued. Water 2.5 liters. checked the o-rings. The valve is on "closed" Put the soup 0.7, 7 minutes. The water boiled quickly (it was warm), the float hiss in full, but does not block the lid. Opened, closed - nefig, opened it closed again, pressed on that place near the float (where the greatest curvature of the lid is about 5mm) - rose ... well, it's not the case ... open the lid 3 times, straighten the gum on the hot lid, twirl valve, press down to finally lock


Added on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:26 PM

Quote: Rick
If so, try putting it on.

ok, change the ring now ... maybe I'm doing something wrong?
lena_letochka
In general, I changed the ring, the Meat mode is 0.7, I'm waiting ...
SvetaI
Ozone is a large and solid store, they say that there are no problems with exchange and refund. True, I myself have not come across (TTT), but the girls will tell you if necessary.
Maybe it will still be developed!
Masha Ivanova
To pass on Ozone is easy. The money, at your request, will either be returned to your ruble account on Ozone, or it will be transferred to the details you specified. (But only as much money as you bought it for.) And they don't change there. That is, you will have to buy at the current price. So try some more fighting. You still have enough time. I had something similar with the valve.And I washed it, and took it apart, there was no sense. And suddenly after 3 days everything started to work by itself. Just do everything at a pressure of 0.7. With a pressure of 0.3, everything is different, so do not get confused yet. And try to just heat up and cook the water several times, and not some dishes.
natushka
Is there a silicone ring on the float? It also seems to me that I need to press the metal button near the float, maybe some kind of speck is caught.
lena_letochka
Girls, does it hiss from the black valve? I've turned off the program for about seven minutes, and the valve is still singing


Added Wednesday, December 21, 2016 5:28 PM

Quote: natushka

Is there a silicone ring on the float? It also seems to me that I need to press the metal button near the float, maybe some kind of speck is caught.
There is a ring. When you take it off, this metal cylinder falls out. And that's it, nothing else is there
natushka
Quote: lena_letochka
I've turned off the program for about seven minutes, and the valve is still singing
Most likely, the matter is in the valve, the pressure does not hold, so it takes a long time and hisses. Is the nut tightened well in it?
lena_letochka
Quote: Masha Ivanova

To pass on Ozone is as easy as shelling pears. The money, at your request, will either be returned to your ruble account at Ozone, or it will be transferred to the details you specified. (But only as much money as you bought it for.) And they don't change there. That is, you will have to buy at the current price.
Well then, everything is clear. They did not send me the warranty card. I took it for 1 ruble. So this is their way of getting rid of illiquid assets ... The truth is that in the appendix I had to take two more goods for the promotion, which can be found cheaper and which I do not really need)) ... I will keep silent about this ...
natushka
[/ s]
Quote: lena_letochka
They did not send me the warranty card.
Will exchange will be taken by check (invoice)
gala10
Quote: lena_letochka
They didn't send me the warranty card.
And they do not send. A receipt is enough to return the item.
And I also think that there is no need to panic. Everything will be worked out.
lena_letochka
Quote: natushka

Most likely it is in the valve, it does not hold pressure, so it takes a long time and hisses. Is the nut tightened well in it?

I unrolled and twisted several times. There, part number 4 is not stamped exactly in the center. That is, there the hole is offset from the center. Does it really affect?
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=362654.0

Can someone spin their valve and see? Maybe crooked is the norm?

And they didn’t answer me, I’ll ask again: when you remove the lid (already with deflated steam) it can hardly be removed, and sometimes even raises the bowl, should it be? Or should it be easily removable?
Masha Ivanova
lena_letochka, you are not right. I had Shteba without any action, too, with the valve, it was not all right at once. Calm down and clean the valve properly. To do this, you need to disassemble it. Fill in the search engine Breadmakers-How to disassemble the lid from Steba DD1 and you will see a topic where on page 1 in detail, with photos all valves are shown, there is a link to disassemble the lid completely, etc. It's much easier to disassemble and clean than it seems. If nothing works out, then take it to any master, in the end you can buy a new cover, if the cartoon will be accepted back for only 1 ruble on Ozone. But I'm sure it won't come to this and everything will work out.
lena_letochka
Quote: Masha Ivanova

lena_letochka, you are not right. I had Shteba without any action, too, with the valve, it was not all right at once. Calm down and clean the valve properly. To do this, you need to disassemble it. Fill in the search engine Breadmakers-How to disassemble the lid from Steba DD1 and you will see a topic where on page 1 in detail, with photos all valves are shown, there is a link to disassemble the lid completely, etc. It's much easier to disassemble and clean than it seems. If nothing works out, then take it to any master, in the end you can buy a new cover, if the cartoon will be accepted back for only 1 ruble on Ozone. But I'm sure it won't come to this and everything will work out.
Masha, I have already disassembled the valve several times. And of course I looked at the photos.Above I gave a page with a request to look at the detail at number 4. She is oblique
Rick
Quote: lena_letochka
when you remove the lid (already with deflated steam) it can hardly be removed, and even sometimes raises the bowl, should it be so? Or should it be easily removable?
Yes, it happens. They wrote about this here too
Masha Ivanova
lena_letochka, try to boil just water a few times, and then we will decide with the analysis of the valve. As for raising the bowl after cooking, this happens, especially during the first time of use. This is normal. A little later, everything itself will return to normal, do not worry about this at all. More often this happens after the preparation of the broth, from which the foam was formed, after the pea soup. Just open neat at first. You will soon adapt to Steba anyway and fall in love with her! You will see!
Seven-year plan
Yes ... a riddle ...
Everything seems to be correct ... but the result is not positive ...

I wish I could see it myself! ...
valushka-s
Quote: Seven-year

Yes ... a riddle ...
Everything seems to be correct ... but the result is not positive ...

I wish I could see it myself! ...
and the most interesting thing is that it is not electronics that does not work, but mechanical something, or ...

I didn't even bother, and as I cooked in my favorite pressure cooker (Unite), I also cook in Štebik.

Lena, wait, don't rush to do anything, after how long the lid will lock itself. And then I read, then press, then remove the lid ... Do not write how long you waited.
lena_letochka
Quote: valushka-s

And then I read, then press, then remove the lid ... Do not write how long you waited.

I wrote that today I boiled my tongue at a pressure of 0.7, and the lid did not lock for half an hour. Therefore, I think there was a dirty cover. I cooked for 35 minutes ..
It was then that I started experimenting with water.
Now there is already progress: I put Fish on the program, the float blocked the lid 2 minutes after boiling.
But the valve sizzled even before the pressure was released.
I'm afraid to jinx it, maybe everything will settle down ... Now it will cool down a little, I'll try to run some other program.
The slit is from the side-back (it is very confusing from the side of the float) for me it is huge (when the lid is blocked, it is 5mm.) When in front, with the lid locked, 1-2 mm Such a big skew, can it play a role?
I'll wait 10 minutes and try again ... keep your fists for me
Gingi
Quote: lena_letochka

The slit is from the side-back (it is just from the side of the float very embarrassing) for me it is huge (when the lid is blocked, it is 5mm.) When in front, with the lid locked, 1-2 mm Such a big skew, can it play a role?
Steba recently acquired the same. With the lid, I was apparently lucky, it stands exactly. True, I have 6 liters, maybe that's why. I cook soups in it, pour it at a stroke, the lid is always clean. Soups definitely taste different from those cooked on the stove, mine like it better. It happened a couple of times that it did not close normally and steam poured out from under the lid, it helped to slightly press on the front left corner, the valve immediately worked.
lena_letochka
Girls, there is still such a moment with the valve, it must enter the red square of the lid, or hangs over it, it does not enter at all, the feeling that something is interfering with it. Dangles from the top, 2mm to that square indentation
julia_bb
Must fit completely into the hole!
lena_letochka
Quote: julia_bb

Must fit completely into the hole!
Should the black valve fit into the red square of the cap? I thought it was the norm that he was at a distance! Maybe this is the case? that's why he hisses.

Does everyone have it? ,

What about
Question: My black valve is loose, is it a marriage?
Answer: No, that's okay.
julia_bb
Here is a photo. Is that so?
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