Bijou
Quote: Levreta
Shall we enroll you as Kirby's promoters? Don't write nonsense
Come on! Let's calculate the percentage of posts about Kir6i and posts on profile topics of the forum and immediately write it down.

Just do not say that you registered at the Khle6opechka precisely because you wanted to talk about recipes and cooking, like all other (not interested in advertising) people do, you didn’t say a word on this topic. What is it that we honestly don't admit and get a point for being sincere?
Levreta
Forgive me, but it seems to me that every participant on the forum is free to write about what he wants. And in every topic he wants. I don't think I should report to you about my actions on the forum. You write about Kirby, I write about Thomas, only because I have such a house and I have something to write about. Sorry I didn't buy Kirby)))
Stirlitz
girls. Does anyone know about Italian separator vacuum cleaners?
Which vacuum cleaner to buy?

What will this model of vacuum cleaner with aquafilter and separator do?
Purify the indoor air from dust, toxins, foreign odors with a capacity of 3 cubic meters per minute
Ionize and humidify indoor air.
With the addition of special oils to the aquafilter, saturate the air in the rooms with pleasant, healthy aromas.
Clean all surfaces in the room using various attachments.
When buying an electric brush (beater), it is easy to clean and collect any wool and hair from carpets and upholstered furniture, to clean mattresses from dust, allergens and saprophyte mites, to knock out blankets, blankets, etc.
Collect any liquid. If desired, it is possible to dry-clean carpets and upholstered furniture at home. To do this, it is necessary to apply the detergent to the dirty surface by hand and then, with a nozzle - a scraper, collect the dissolved dirt with a vacuum cleaner.

Now more about the vacuum cleaner with aquafilter and separator.

"Aqua" in Russian means "water", it means a vacuum cleaner with a water or water filter. Nothing living can exist without water. Neither man, nor animal, nor insect, nor plant. Without water, all living things are doomed to extinction, therefore, we can safely say that water is life.

Somehow one smart head, or maybe several heads, suggested using the water in a vacuum cleaner as a filter. After all, water is the most versatile solvent. No other substance or compound is capable of dissolving as many substances in itself as water dissolves.

All nature is "washed" with water in the form of precipitation. Rain, snow, hail, frost, dew, fog are all water, or derivatives of water. Imagine that there is no precipitation, what will happen? The globe will simply suffocate in its own sewage, a huge part of which we humans produce with our cars, factories, factories, etc., etc.

Remember the summer of 2010, how the ecological situation changed for the worse, when there was no precipitation for more than 50 days. How people suffering from various diseases suffered, and the healthy did not feel in the best way. Moreover, all this happened not only in those areas where natural fires raged, and as soon as it rained, life immediately began to improve.

Let's go back to the vacuum cleaners. So, the use of water as a filter led to the fact that the concentration of harmful substances inside the treated room decreased. And harmful substances are not only dust, but also everything that is emitted by the objects around us: furniture, floor coverings, wallpaper, etc. These are ammonia, dimethylamine, nitrogen and carbon oxides, benzenes, phenols, hydrogen sulfide, toluene, methanol and a lot others.

The content of harmful substances in closed rooms is 5-7 times higher than their concentration on the street. The highest - the concentrated layer is 0.8 - 1 meter from the floor, if adults come to this layer only when they go to bed, on average for 7 - 8 hours a day, then children are in it all 24 hours. From here, the incidence of allergic and asthmatic diseases in children is 25-30% higher than in adults.
Everything seems to be good, but it turned out that the water does not retain all the dust that passes through it. The dust is divided into fractions: easy to absorb and hard to absorb. The latter include: asbestos and graphite, as well as very fine dust that the human eye does not perceive. For reference, the human eye only sees up to 3% of the dust around us. And in order for this dust to get wet, it must be passed through a huge column of water. It is not realistic to put a large volume of water into a household vacuum cleaner, and with the volumes of aquafilters that we use today, there is still a dust emission, although insignificant. Therefore, in vacuum cleaners with an aquafilter, modern HEPA filters are installed at the outlet, which capture the very same non-wet dust, and at the exit we get clean air.

It is impossible to achieve the ideal, but it is necessary to strive for it. Human thought is "boiling", and besides, competitors are stepping on their heels, so a wise head was found who remembered that wind helps to cleanse the planet "Earth" and that the water, while moving, aggravates physical and chemical data. For example, think of a glass of tea in which you put sugar cubes. If you do not take any action, you will see that the sugar dissolves, but very slowly and your tea will obviously cool down until the sugar is completely dissolved. But as soon as you give the water a stir with a teaspoon, the sugar instantly "disappears".

That head thought and decided to combine two elements: water and wind in one place.

Two questions arose: “How to make the water in the vacuum cleaner move? And how do you put the wind in the flask? "

And put wise heads in a vacuum cleaner separator, for those who don't know, a separator is a separator. If in the dairy industry the separator separates milk into return and cream, then in vacuum cleaners, it separates clean air from everything else.
This is how separator vacuum cleaners with an aquafilter were born.
The result exceeded all expectations. And the water seethed in the flask, and the vortices began to blow, and at the same time they received clean air at the exit with ions and normal humidity. And the need for all kinds of filters has disappeared, and therefore, there are no barriers to the passage of the air flow, and the power of the electric motors has decreased 0.85 - 1 kW.
And all the consumables are tap water.

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Write to me if you are familiar with this technique, the question of buying a washing vacuum cleaner just really arose, but I don’t know which one to choose, so I am leaning towards this model so far.
Dr.NO
Well, you did not write correctly, this is not a vacuum cleaner - this is a carpet extractor, it is written there in the movie. It is a pity the truth that he is not for sale in Italy. They only sell it in Russia, in Belarus and in Ukraine. All the best to us. And they do not even know about its existence, since the separator is there, and only we can understand this. And their water is different, their water creates barriers, ours does not.
In short, do not bother. Go to yahoo.it, type delvir Everything will be clear there
The laurels of the Kirbists do not give rest.
Dr.NO
No, there is a record on the trademark, and there is even a company registered with - an Italian manufacturer of vacuum cleaners
TM Delvir by Obshchestvo s ogranichennoy otvetstvennostyu "DELMER"
RU-141800 Moscovskaja obl.
Elena V. Zhukovskaya
KV. 48, 8 BEREZHKOVSKAYA NAB
RU-121059 MOSCOW
RUSSIAN FED.
Probably right in apartment 48 on Berezhkovskaya they are collected by Italians
Stirlitz
so I did not understand whether this company is a complete profanation or can it still be considered for purchase? I need a vacuum cleaner that is very good at cleaning carpets. I don't even know which company to pay attention to, but I will definitely not take Thomas, I examined him in great detail in the shopping center and the consultants told me about all his shortcomings very well, you will be tortured to wash it and then buy different filters.
Dr.NO
Take a good dry vacuum cleaner with a suction power of at least 450-500 ae with electroturbo brush.
Stirlitz
Dr.NO, Thank you. And on the models, advise something.
advise about MIE Ecologico

Specifications
Type normal
Dry cleaning
Power consumption 1000 W
Suction power 690 W
Dust collector aquafilter, capacity 3.50 l
Power regulator on the body
There is a fine filter
Power supply network
Features:
Noise level 64 dB
Functions and capabilities aromatization function
Additional information the volume of the water tank is 16 liters; the rotation speed of the separator is 28,000 rpm; air purification performance: 165 m³ / hour; IPX4 enclosure protection
Tubes and nozzles
Telescopic suction pipe
The ability to connect an electric brush is
Additional attachments included for dry cleaning of curtains, curtains, upholstered furniture; for soft surfaces: carpets, floor coverings; for cleaning clothes and shoes with a hard nap; for cleaning equipment and polished furniture; narrow for hard-to-reach places
Or MIE Ecologico Maxi
Specifications
Type normal
Cleaning dry / wet
Power consumption 1000 W
Suction power 690 W
Dust collector aquafilter, capacity 3.50 l
Power regulator on the body
There is a fine filter
Power supply network
Features:
Noise level 64 dB
Functions and capabilities aromatization function
Additional information the volume of the water tank is 16 liters; ; the rotation speed of the separator is 28,000 rpm; air purification performance: 165 m³ / hour; IPX4 enclosure protection
Tubes and nozzles
Telescopic suction pipe
The ability to connect an electric brush is
Additional attachments included for dry cleaning of curtains, curtains, upholstered furniture; for soft surfaces: carpets, floor coverings; for cleaning clothes and shoes with a hard nap; for cleaning equipment and polished furniture; narrow for hard-to-reach places; small for dry-cleaning of upholstered furniture; large for wet and dry cleaning of smooth surfaces, carpets and carpets
Stirlitz
Well, today they brought this MIE Ecologico Maxi vacuum cleaner, however, during the time that I was choosing they have risen in price. However, I managed to get a discount and another turbo knockout as a gift. Today I have already tried it in work. I liked the vacuum cleaner, it really cleans everything out of carpets very well, especially with a turbo punch. The water was disgustingly black, despite the fact that I clean the apartment regularly. The air has really become cleaner, due to the fact that all the dust remains in the water. There are many different attachments, I really don't know if I will use all of them. I was also pleased that the vacuum cleaner and tubes have power regulators. In general, of those vacuum cleaners that I had and which I looked at lately, I think that he is the best.
Honey
I have several vacuum cleaners at home, but I do not stop in search of the perfect one))
There is a simple bagless LG, but after cleaning it smells of dust in the air. it must be washed after each cleaning, otherwise it will suck poorly and stink even more. Terrible vacuum cleaner! Suitable for garage or local quick cleaning.
There is a Thomas T2 washing machine. They are of course good at washing carpets, sofas, floors. BUT then you have to wash him! then you wash the toilet, because you drain his cistern, then you wash the bathtub, because there you wash his cistern, filters, etc. The thing seems to be necessary, but it comes out once a month during a general cleaning. And you need to periodically change the HEPA filter so that there is no smell of dust after cleaning with it, and it is not cheap.
There is a robot vacuum cleaner IROBOT 780. This is, of course, an assistant and a worker. Runs every day. But, of course, you can't do without cons: he needs to free up space, otherwise he may get tangled in wires or toys (who have small children, he knows that they are always scattered around the house), well, periodically it is necessary to clean his brushes, as their hair is wound, wool, threads.
Now I am on fire with Dyson.It does not need consumables: various filters and bags, when cleaning with it there is no smell of dust, cleaning is done by pressing a button and everything falls out and, as the description says, it even catches mold spores. Who has one? share your experience. I chose this 🔗... I'll take it in Germany, it's much cheaper there.
Arbena
Quote: Honey
Now I am on fire with Dyson. It does not need consumables: various filters and bags, when cleaning with it there is no smell of dust, cleaning is done by pressing a button and everything falls out and, as the description says, it even catches mold spores. Who has one? share your experience. I chose this 🔗... I'll take it in Germany, it's much cheaper there.
This is their newest model, the coolest. If possible, take it, do not hesitate.
I have an old model, it has been working for 5 years, but I can say the same that without consumables, there is no smell of dust, etc.
And I would buy this one with pleasure, but the Dysons have one drawback: there is no need and incentive to buy a new one, the old one can work for a very long time.
Admin
Quote: Honey


Now I am on fire with Dyson. It does not need consumables: various filters and bags, when cleaning with it there is no smell of dust, cleaning is done by pressing a button and everything falls out and, as the description says, it even catches mold spores. Who has one? share your experience.

I use Dyson - I have two models: vertical parking Dyson25 (for large jobs and cleaning), and Dyson broom (for quick and short cleaning and just sweep) - I am happy
And most importantly, the same attachments fit these Dyson models !!! Discussion here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=306788.0

Quote: but the Dysons have one drawback: there is no need and incentive to buy a new one, the old one can work for a very long time - here I completely agree!
Stirlitz
I also have a Dyson broom, I use it every day. But I think so far nothing beats MIE. You no longer need to buy consumables for him, today I tried it as a detergent, I really liked it. Of course, you won't collect it every day, but once a week is quite possible. And most importantly, after it, the air in the apartment really becomes much cleaner, and if you drop pine oil into the tank, the whole apartment is filled with aroma. I am very pleased with the quality of the cleaning 5+.
now LG and Samsung will throw it away.
Arbena
Quote: Stirlitz
I also have a Dyson broom, I use it every day. But I think so far nothing beats MIE.
These are incomparable things, the wireless dyson is not designed for general cleaning.
But I have to admit that after I got it, I take out the wired vacuum cleaner less and less. I have no detergent, but the big Dyson cleans up perfectly.
But sometimes it is too lazy to mess around with wires, this technique completely spoils
Stirlitz
Quote: Arbena
These are incomparable things, the wireless dyson is not designed for general cleaning.
So I don't use it for general. That is why I bought MIE, and I was vacuuming the sofa with a turbo hammer, the water was monstrously black, next weekend I want to clean the pillows, I can imagine how much dirt there is.
Stirlitz
Girls, I've never met anything better in my life. I have had it for almost a month. but I cannot tear myself away from him.
Antonchik
I recommend to everyone and everyone to choose a vacuum cleaner, based not on the name of the manufacturer, but on the functionality and real feedback from people. I recently bought Bosch Relaxx'x Zoo. A very good vacuum cleaner. Moreover, in terms of quality and functionality, it is in no way inferior to Dyson.
* Aina *
Girls, can someone have a Philips FC9071 / 01
Which vacuum cleaner to buy?
Arbena
Of course, you should choose a vacuum cleaner, like any other technique, by functionality, not by name.
Quote: Antonchik
I recently bought Bosch Relaxx'x Zoo. A very good vacuum cleaner. Moreover, in terms of quality and functionality, it is in no way inferior to Dyson.
What does it have to do with or not? Each vacuum cleaner occupies its own niche, has its own customers.
Indeed, the high quality and features of Dyson technology, combined with the price, are not suitable for everyone, although it seems to me that these are the best vacuum cleaners.
If you are interested, on our website there is a special topic dedicated to Dyson vacuum cleaners, where its pros and cons are analyzed in detail.
Stirlitz
Quote: Antonchik
I recommend to everyone and everyone to choose a vacuum cleaner, based not on the name of the manufacturer, but on the functionality
Agree with you.But for me it was very important - the high suction power (cleaning quality) and the absence of the subsequent purchase of all kinds of filters. I suffered for a long time, but I do not regret the purchase at all, moreover, my neighbor and I bought together. we still got a good discount and gave us a turbo knocker as a gift.
Maja
Quote: Antonchik

I recommend to everyone and everyone to choose a vacuum cleaner, based not on the name of the manufacturer, but on the functionality and real feedback from people. I recently bought Bosch Relaxx'x Zoo. A very good vacuum cleaner. Moreover, in terms of quality and functionality, it is in no way inferior to Dyson.

I disagree a little, for me personally the manufacturing company is also important. If there is a choice between a vacuum cleaner of some unknown Chinese company, but with good declared characteristics (at the same time, not verified), and a well-known company with simpler characteristics, I will choose a well-known company. Actually, your Bosch is also a very famous company and many people buy their vacuum cleaners (and not only) on the basis that this company has been on the market for more than a dozen years, and their equipment has been proven for years.
Antonchik
I'm not saying that you need to take a vacuum cleaner from an unknown Chinese company, but you shouldn't overpay for the name. I took my Bosch precisely because the price for it is adequate, with all the declared characteristics, and despite the fact that, as you wrote correctly, tested (such a vacuum cleaner was taken from the neighbors repeatedly to clean the upholstered furniture and carpet from wool, but decided that Enough to be impudent and bought yourself the same). Here it would be more correct to say even so, when choosing a vacuum cleaner, you need to focus on a combination of indicators such as value for money.
Verka
The main thing in a vacuum cleaner is power, the quality of cleaning depends on it, and under what name it will be, it does not matter at all.
* Anyuta *
Quote: Verka
The main thing in a vacuum cleaner is power
More than power, power suction!!!
Arbena
Suction power, of course, but not only that.
For example, if a vacuum cleaner powerfully sucks in, and then blows out some of the dust into the air (remember the Rocket, Buran, etc.), then such a vacuum cleaner is not really needed.
Maja
Antonchik, what does your vacuum cleaner collect wool? Ahh, is this Zoo in the sense of cleaning up animals? Type special? And what is really easy to clean?
Levreta
Both Bosch Zoo and Dyson vacuum cleaners are the same and are equally unjustified. All the same, I am of the opinion that if you take a vacuum cleaner for that kind of money, then it must be heaped up and something else to be able to besides the usual function of collecting dust.
Antonchik
Quote: Maja

Antonchik, what does your vacuum cleaner collect wool? Ahh, is this Zoo in the sense of cleaning up animals? Type special? And what is really easy to clean?
Yes, Relax Zoo is a special vacuum cleaner for pet owners. Its turbo brush, efficiently combs out carpets and collects fluff of animal origin from the floor, which falls directly into the dust collector, and does not linger on the brush. Cleaning is really easy for them.
Maja
Quote: Levreta

Both Bosch Zoo and Dyson vacuum cleaners are the same and are equally unjustified. All the same, I am of the opinion that if you take a vacuum cleaner for that kind of money, then it must be heaped up and something else to be able to besides the usual function of collecting dust.

I agree that the cost of any thing should be justified, but this Boch seems to have some bells and whistles, I read the characteristics so much, not bad, a special turbo brush, a HEPA filter, a self-cleaning system, very quiet, for such a vacuum cleaner I would say that the price is appropriate ...
Arbena
Quote: Levreta
All the same, I am of the opinion that if you take a vacuum cleaner for that kind of money, then it must be heaped up and something else to be able to besides the usual function of collecting dust.
I am of the opinion that you need to take the vacuum cleaner that is best suited for the required functions and is affordable for a given family, and not bells and whistles for the sake of bells and whistles.
annnushka27
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auntyirisha
Stirlitz, Tatiana, I'm looking at the MIE vacuum cleaner.As a real user, please rate the quality of materials, workmanship, the complexity of maintenance, how do you like the suction power (including when wet cleaning, how wet the floor remains) and most importantly: does it have a hepa filter or does it have no filters (including around the engine)? I have two vacuum cleaners: "Thomas" washing (my seven-year-old favorite, despite the difficulties in leaving) and cyclone "Samsung" (9560). I use both, but after "Thomas" the need for cleaning does not arise as quickly as after a cyclone, and this is NOTICEABLE. But I want a separator, of course "Pro-aqua" (it doesn't have filters at all, sort of), and so on. They are unreasonable. I also looked at "Dyson", I like it very much, but for my conditions (four cats), water is better, plus something for quick cleaning, that is, the same thing that I have, only better and lighter and without consumables.
Levreta
Quote: Maja

I agree that the cost of any thing should be justified, but this Boch seems to have some bells and whistles, I read the characteristics so much, not bad, a special turbo brush, a HEPA filter, a self-cleaning system, very quiet, for such a vacuum cleaner I would say that the price is appropriate ...
Turbo brush and HEPA are not bells and whistles. This is now in a more or less normal vacuum cleaner. If quiet means weak, it is 100%. There cannot be a powerful super quiet vacuum cleaner, such have not yet been invented. Well, the price seems to be normal.
Levreta
Removed by mistake quotes
Arbena
Apparently, there is a mistake in citation. The quote is not mine, what is there to answer - I have no idea :(
Levreta
Forgive me now.
Levreta
Quote: Arbena
I am of the opinion that you need to take the vacuum cleaner that is best suited for the required functions and is affordable for a given family, and not bells and whistles for the sake of bells and whistles.

Now any (almost) family can afford any vacuum cleaner. Kirby, Rainbow and other vacuum cleaners for the price of a car, of course, I do not take into account. Each has a phone for 10 thousand and above. You can afford a normal vacuum cleaner. Moreover, you do not buy it for a year.
Whymuchka
Quote: Levreta
Now any (almost) family can afford any vacuum cleaner. Kirby, Rainbow and other vacuum cleaners for the price of a car, of course, I do not take into account. Each has a phone for 10 thousand and above. You can afford a normal vacuum cleaner. Moreover, you do not buy it for a year.
I read and read and it became interesting to me.
Sorry for the offs, but I really want to know. Levret, and in which city is each phone more expensive than 10,000 rubles?
Stirlitz
auntyirisha, I am very happy with my vacuum cleaner. You don't need to buy any additional filters for it, for me this is a significant plus. The suction power with a turbo vibrator (this is generally a separate topic, we lovingly call it the shaitan machine) 650. Moreover, I still cannot believe that I have so much dirt, every time after cleaning I pour out a black thick liquid. I asked a neighbor. we bought it together, she says. which is also shocked by the waste water, despite the fact that we vacuum every week, and in the week I still go through Dyson (little). The only drawback, if, of course, it can be considered a drawback, it needs a storage space, since there are many all kinds of additional attachments. I can say that this is the best vacuum cleaner for me today. As for wet cleaning, it also suits me perfectly. did dry cleaning of carpets, I liked it. Of course, not all liquid is absorbed and the carpet is slightly damp, but this is the case with all washing vacuum cleaners. I bought a special composition for chemical. cleaning, the vacuum cleaner coped with it perfectly. Another plus is clean air and I have almost no dust in my apartment.

Stirlitz
I can't insert a video about this vacuum cleaner, but you can find it yourself on YouTube.
🔗

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Levreta
Quote: Why Much

I read and read and it became interesting to me.
Sorry for the off, but I really want to know. Levret, and in which city is each phone more expensive than 10,000 rubles?
yes in any city))
Stirlitz
No, I have a cool vacuum cleaner.Every time I clean and do not cease to be surprised, how much dirt we have, do not think that I am dirty, Every week I do almost general cleaning, and the water is still black. Now I want to buy a light carpet, now I don’t care, I can wash everything if that.
My neighbor and I bought it together, so she tells me the same thing, it's a pleasure for them to clean and the air is clean after that. Who else doubts, do not hesitate ...
Fields
Bork is available. With aquafilter. Rinsing it under running water is not a problem, but in the country it is more difficult.
And so I face a choice. Or cyclone type. Completely dry, or still an aquafilter.
Which filter is cleaner?
I don't feel like messing around with bags.
Bijou
Quote: Fields
I don't feel like messing around with bags.
In the sense of? Gently take out a full bag with one finger every three months and bring it, closed and dust-free, to the trash can - is it fiddling against the background of every disassembly-dustbin-drying-reassembly of an aquafilter or a cyclone dusting when it spills out with its regular washing of dusty foam rubber ??
* Anyuta *
Lena, Lenochka, do not spray ... for 38 pages of this topic, I already realized that everyone will praise what he has ... Only there is one BUT ... everyone has different tastes / preferences and financial capabilities, so the choice a vacuum cleaner is a matter of "wallet" and personal preferences, but not the advice of members of the forum !!!
Chamomile
* Anyuta *why, I listened to the advice of members of the forum and ordered Mystery.
Fields
Quote: Bijou
In the sense of? Gently take out a full bag with one finger every three months and bring it, closed and dust-free, to the trash can - is it fiddling against the background of every disassembly-dustbin-drying-reassembly of an aquafilter or a cyclone dusting when it spills out with its regular washing of dusty foam rubber ?? More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ption=com_smf&topic=389.0
Thank you.
How many of these bags broke during work, and I did not know. And he drove dust around the house.
And in 3 months it will burst from the dust.
At the moment, the quality of water and cyclone cleaning is of interest.
Fields
And what is the name of the vacuum cleaner that is connected to the exhaust ventilation?
Or he just throws everything out into the street.
Bijou
Quote: Fields
How many of these bags broke during work, and I did not know. And he drove dust around the house.

And in 3 months it will burst from the dust.
But there was no need to squander. Expensive and high-quality synthetics with a filtration level of the hepa 10 class cannot tear, and a penny piece of paper can easily.

As for the "burst" - even in my private house with an animal, a construction site, a stove and a crowd of people for three months in a bag no more than 800-900 grams of dust. The question is - why would he burst in an apartment where the dirt is 5-10 times less by definition?

Quote: Fields
And what is the name of the vacuum cleaner that is connected to the exhaust ventilation?
Or he just throws everything out into the street.
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Quote: * Annie *
Only there is one BUT ... everyone has different tastes / preferences and financial capabilities, so the choice of a vacuum cleaner is a matter of "wallet" and personal preferences, but not the advice of members of the forum !!!
Well, when how ... Sometimes people just start to look at things a little wider than they were used to before. Like according to Prutkov - "not because our concepts are weak, but because these things are not [not included until now] in the circle of our concepts."

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