igorechek
I agree with the classic bagged dust. I myself have an old Bosch with a bag, though the bag filling sensor has already broken (not fundamentally), the telescopic tubes do not hold well (my revision was required), the automatic winding of the cord has broken ... In short, it's time to change.
I see that some reputable firms, such as Millet, are in no hurry to switch to new technologies. Well this is not without reason, it is unlikely that their engineers can not think of a new one. It seems to me that the most convenient, despite the innovations, is precisely the bag vacuum cleaner - you don't need to shake out anything, wash the filters, etc. - did the job and just put it in a corner. And he just pulled out the bag and throw it away. Now there is no shortage of spare bags, and they are inexpensive.
But since I have short-pile carpets on my floor, I look closely at the vacuum cleaners. The dimensions and complexity of washing out after use are frightening. I watched how a good friend does it and from the video about Thomas - and something immediately got overwhelmed ... But I looked at the reviews and touched the new Karcher model SE 4002 and SE 5.100 in the store a couple of times, and I must say I liked that the dimensions go up, not breadth and ease of maintenance. There is no such hemorrhoid with wash. And still worried about completely conflicting opinions about the dryness of the coating after use. No matter how you have to evaporate everything with an "iron" ...
Alenka212
Quote: igorechek

And still worried about completely conflicting opinions about the dryness of the coating after use. No matter how you have to evaporate everything with an "iron" ...
The dryness of the coating (in purely my experience) depends on the quality of this coating itself. The old natural carpet was practically dry after washing, and the container of the vacuum cleaner (I have the same Thomas) was full of dirty water with particles of fibers. A synthetic carpet bought to replace a natural one remains damp to the touch, but then dries quickly. But my mother's palace with loops honestly absorbed almost all the water poured on it with the same suction power. The sofa is also damp after washing. but dries quickly.
The main thing is not to indulge in washing in rainy weather. when both outside and in the room there is high humidity. In summer and during the heating season, no problem.

sazalexter
Perhaps I was mistaken, it seemed to me that the carpets remained, there ... in the USSR And the carpet, as doctors say, should be changed more often
PS: If the carpets, then the truth is washing. But the dampness ...
Alenka212
Quote: sazalexter

He smeared water all over the hut, spread the dampness.
Sometimes it’s like that, but when you look at the color of the water in the container after washing the same sofa or carpet ...

I would have thrown away the carpet with great pleasure, but a child lives on it ... and it's more interesting to play there ...
igorechek
Quote: sazalexter

Perhaps I was mistaken, it seemed to me that the carpets remained, there ... in the USSR And the carpet, as doctors say, should be changed more often
PS: If the carpets, then the truth is washing. But the dampness ...
I am Russian, but I have had a Soviet-Asian type of comfort since Soviet times.
I am much more comfortable and warmer when there is a warm rug on the floor and not a bare heating or when the walls are decorated with wooden "slats" in the country. I am not comfortable at the same dacha, I feel myself with friends who are renovated, beautiful but uncomfortable. I do not love the newfangled cold chic, but ours - warm and fluffy ... And two children have not yet grown up. And they are more comfortable on the carpet.
Of course you need to change carpets, but more than once a week! And you don't really want to bludgeon them on the street as before in the USSR ... And after the sack one there really is still a lot of things
Alenka212
Quote: igorechek

And you don't really want to bludgeon them on the street as before in the USSR ... And after the sack one there really is still a lot of things
Traditionally, they tried to clean the carpet, which was far from new, repeatedly washed, but not fresh, with snow (mother-in-law ordered before the New Year). So the usual black traces inherent in such an action were not observed.
* Anyuta *
Quote: Alyonka212

Traditionally, they tried to clean the carpet, which was far from new, repeatedly washed, but not fresh, with snow (mother-in-law ordered before the New Year). So the usual black traces inherent in such an action were not observed.

Alain, I don't want to upset you, but still ...
Literally that week, my husband once again "recalled" how he and dad washed carpets on "my assignment" ... Natural-Soviet carpets had been in use for 3 years ... and all these 3 years they washed with Thomas .. I will not say anything ... just, if you have a Körcher-wash, then wash at least one carpet with it .. (there is definitely an opportunity, since there is a private house) ... and everything will immediately become clear .. ... after these "recollections" I do not regret at all. that I left Thomas to use ... By the way, today he will also be sent "into exile" ... Thomas himself is already on the street .. the brushes only have to be taken out ..
Alenka212
* Anyuta *. I am just a beginner homeowner. Therefore, Karcher is only in the project. And yet there is nothing to wash on (not on black soil ...)
* Anyuta *
Quote: Alyonka212

And yet there is nothing to wash on (not on black soil ...)

Well, there are at least 2 options .. even 3 ... you dry clothes on the street in the summer? If the clothesline is tied to the poles, then you knit a wire on these poles and wash the carpet on it ...
Further .. the car is on the ground? Or is there still a concrete / tiled / asphalted area? you wash the "base" first - then the carpet - but it's inconvenient .. there will be nowhere for the water to drain .. well, the third - the simplest option - is on the fence ....
Alenka212
Outside the territory of the yard, everything is more civilized: asphalt roads, sidewalk raft and lawns. Here is a fence, it remains to buy a sink (robot vacuum cleaner ...). When will the child grow up to throw out the carpet ..
Levreta
Quote: Alyonka212

The dryness of the coating (in purely my experience) depends on the quality of this coating itself.
And it seems to me that from how much water you pour on this very coating. There is also a water supply regulator. Well, excuse me if, for example, a person just spills water on the carpet, will he say that the bucket is bad? Or maybe the hands are not from there? All vacuum cleaners perform the same task. Clean the surface. The differences are in appearance, functionality, price. The three most important criteria for distinguishing between washing vacuum cleaners.
sazalexter
Levreta The dampness of the carpet will depend on the water supply, the dust suction power, the length of the carpet pile, the material from which it is made. (There is such a thing as surface tension 🔗), respectively, the ambient temperature, water and speed of movement of the vacuum cleaner nozzle. But the most important thing will be dampness! If in Krasnodar it is also good, then in St. Petersburg there will be a swamp and mold in carpets is simply inevitable.
thet
Hello everyone!!! I will share ... At the moment I have a washing Wax. The simplest model. So ... As a vacuum cleaner, it is very good for carpets - I bought it for them. Very powerful, easily washed after cleaning and the carpets remain moderately moist after cleaning ... BUT since after cleaning the carpets dry completely for half a day or even a day if the batteries are disconnected in the summer, then at this time, that is, during drying, it is in the air not very pleasant smell from wet carpets. And if you don't really notice in the hallway, then in the bedroom or living room it is not very pleasant. I wanted to order an aquafilter for him, but it costs half the price of a vacuum cleaner (I have an inexpensive one). Yes, it would also be okay, but I'm not sure what will fit my model. If you wash the floor with it, it doesn't ice either, as it can be wiped faster with a mop. And linoleum is generally impossible to wash as it is very powerful and lifts the linoleum from the floor. As a result, I collected all the carpets and took them out onto the balcony, although I really love rugs and carpets on the floor. And the vacuum cleaner has been in the corner for two months already and it seems like it is good but there is no strength to use it.Conclusion: from the detergents, this is the best one that I had (and there were moulinex (3+) and thomas (b e e - a bad dream). But nevertheless, I will not buy a washing vacuum cleaner anymore and will not advise anyone. wash carpets in nature to dry them on the fence. A year ago I was very tormented by the choice, it seemed that I thought of everything, but no, it flew again: girl_cray: And now again I am puzzling over which one to buy, since I will not refuse carpets. I bow to Karcher with an aquafilter or a good bag. And what did I not buy Keher last year? I chased after cheapness ... And now ....: girl_sad: Maybe someone will use my experience. Although I personally learn from my mistakes ... It doesn’t work with strangers ...
Rita
Explain to me, retarded, the meaning of vacuuming carpets? Are they so dirty that they need to be washed every week? Well, got it wet ... Dust mites love moisture and reproduce even better from it. They die at temperatures above + 60C.
I prefer to treat the vacuum cleaner with a steam cleaner - it is more effective in my opinion and all the stains go away. But, however, after that, the carpet needs to be hung up to dry, so I do this not often. Although it dries quickly and there is no smell.
thet
Rita agrees with you - there is no great need to often clean carpets with a washing vacuum cleaner if they are in the rooms, but in the hallway - it's very worthwhile to simultaneously collect both sand and dirt and refresh. After all, if you process with steam, then first you still need to vacuum clean the garbage - so consider double work. By the way, Karcher has a model of a steam cleaner, when he simultaneously steams and immediately collects dirt through an aquafilter. Not a vacuum cleaner but a dream. But the price bites, for me anyway. And still I dream about him ...: girl_in_dreams: Maybe when I will decide ... But now I can not afford it.
* Anyuta *
Quote: Rita


I prefer to treat the vacuum cleaner with a steam cleaner - it is more effective in my opinion and all the stains go away. But, however, after that, the carpet needs to be hung up to dry, so I do this not often. Although it dries quickly and there is no smell.

Ritul, .. came to this conclusion after 5 years of using a washing vacuum cleaner ...
Yes, I will not deny that it does not stink of dust is a fact .. but this is the only plus of washing vacuum cleaners ...
After the simultaneous purchase of a powerful vacuum cleaner and a large steam generator, the need to use a washing vacuum cleaner disappeared .. since April, I stood idle ... Yesterday I got rid of it altogether, because the child was given a separate room - just the one where the vacuum cleaner stood .. and so a child's table has replaced the vacuum cleaner (!) ...

BUT ... all the same I want to say that for people with allergies, a washing vacuum cleaner is the most affordable and best option (a steam cleaner is not taken into account) ...
igorechek
And I have repeatedly met the opinion that you need to have TWO vacuum cleaners. I didn't quite understand before.
And now I already have a small rechargeable ELECTRICATOR Karcher K55. It is a broom - it does not suck in dirt, but just NOTICE. hangs on the wall and doesn't take up much space. It is necessary to clean up-grabbed and without connecting to email. network, removed what was needed. Lightweight - less than 2kg.
But for specific cleaning I looked for a washing Karcher. What we liked is the ease of maintenance. In principle, it also has a dry cleaning function - a disposable bag is inserted instead of water. I live in the northern region, heating is almost 9 months a year, so if there is no humidifier, the humidity drops to 18-25%. During the heating season, a humidifier tank of 6 liters is only enough for a day! So drying the carpets during the heating season, I think, will be successful.
thet
Maybe I will repeat myself, but based on my own experience, today I think that a vacuum cleaner is not needed, be it at least some other sophisticated Karcher. Very convenient two vacuum cleaners - yes. And also a little steam into the bargain.
Rita
And I have 3 vacuum cleaners. Robot vacuum cleaner Rumba, Electrolux rechargeable and regular Philips. Most often I use the first two. Electrolux instead of a broom.
There is a fourth vacuum cleaner in the garage, which is twenty-five years old. From the GDR. It will not break in any way, despite the fact that they also removed the building dust. Beast!!!
tatjanka
And I have a steam cleaner, the price is really biting, BUT it justifies itself. I am very pleased with his purchase, soon for 2 years. I use it once a week. My linoleum in the kitchen, carpets in the room, parquet, bathroom tiles and upholstered furniture.
Levreta
Quote: sazalexter

If in Krasnodar it is also good, then in St. Petersburg there will be a swamp and mold in carpets is simply inevitable.
What a bleak picture you are painting. You can and neatly handle the carpet. Of course, any carpet will dry after wet cleaning. and then you will not do wet cleaning every day. If you process the carpet once a week, there will be no dampness or mold. I have Thomas Westphalia at home and I process the carpet in the same way and there is nothing wrong with that.
Levreta
Quote: tet

But nevertheless, I will not buy a washing vacuum cleaner anymore and will not recommend it to anyone.
Well, everyone decides this individually. You probably made the mistake of buying a detergent. And it's not about the brand. Thomas, Karcher, if I understood you correctly, you do not like the very principle of operation of washing vacuum cleaners. But for those people who need a detergent, it is quite suitable.
thet
Levreta! I agree with you completely - everyone chooses individually. Therefore, I do not dissuade anyone from washing, but only share my own experience. And my wax will also come in handy at the dacha. As before in the garage, Thomas, and even earlier Moulinex. The garage must also be in order ...
Alenka212
Quote: Levreta

Or maybe the hands are not from there?

Yes, it seems like I washed different carpets with the same hands (in a sane condition). But there is still a difference in humidity ...
Darinka35
Oh, I don’t know I’m already confused with these vacuum cleaners !? What kind of detergent or dry cleaning should I take ?! In the apartment, rugs and laminate flooring, I clean almost every day, since there is a small child at home and I want order and freshness. But I read that after washing the carpets are wet, and my daughter is crawling with might and main. What to take ?!
igorechek
My advice is this - both in the kitchen there is no universal appliance, and in cleaning.
You should have one vacuum cleaner for quick and frequent cleaning. For this I bought a rechargeable electric broom. Wireless, lightweight, compact. Grabbed at any time - and sweep yourself. Moreover, it works so quietly that you can sweep it when the child is sleeping.
And for a thorough infrequent cleaning - buy a washing vacuum cleaner.
Alenka212
And then, after using all this, a robot ... so that in general itself
igorechek
People are very conservative.
It is normal to have 2 cars in the family if possible, buy 2-10 multicooker - many already do this, buy a separate refrigerator-freezer, etc. - this is quite appropriate. But for many to buy 2 cleaning devices that are ABSOLUTELY different in functionality - many perceive it as nonsense.
This is home hygiene. And these devices are completely different in operation and application. It's like kitchen utensils - everything for filling the stomach, but made in different ways.
lega
Quote: igorechek


And for a thorough infrequent cleaning - buy a washing vacuum cleaner.
And a steam cleaner is a must, especially with a small child.
Alenka212
Darinka35, in addition to the vacuum cleaner, you can look at the steam generator for cheats and disinfection. The carpets freshen up noticeably, and so does the floor.
annnushka27
Quote: Darinka35

Oh, I don’t know I’m already confused with these vacuum cleaners !? What kind of detergent or dry cleaning should I take ?! In the apartment, rugs and laminate flooring, I clean almost every day, since there is a small child at home and I want order and freshness. But I read that after washing the carpets are wet, and my daughter is crawling with might and main. What to take ?!
I have the same problem. I can't choose everything. I really don't want to have a bag, but I want to pull well. And they say that the suction power is not as strong with the flask as with the bag. There is a steam generator, but almost everywhere there is a laminate, and it seemed to me, or maybe it was before, that the seams swelled a little, although the laminate is far from cheap, somehow scary. Probably for this reason the detergent is also impossible?
The area is 150 sq., The laminate is dark, the tiles are light, two children, a dog, I can't cope with cleaning with my old vacuum cleaner with a bag, I want to somehow make it all easier.
Alenka212
Anya, before, when I lived in an apartment, I never suffered so much with cleaning. And now a private house, in which something is always sawed, cut, built ... An eternally shedding cat ... and a pile of sand, remnants of leaves, crumbs, etc. from the daughter's pockets ...
For all this, assistants gradually appeared and settled in my staff:
1. The most commonly used upright vacuum cleaner for almost daily cleaning, together with a microfiber mop for washing.
2. Recently I liked to clean the carpet with a steam generator, but he ordered to live long. So the carpet remained half uncleaned. The laminate has washed them several times, it seems alive, but somehow scary.
3. Sometimes I use a vacuum cleaner to clean the carpet and sofa. You can also refresh upholstered furniture and carpet with a steam generator. At the same time, the surface is somehow drier.
In the near and future plans (required) a mop with an extraction and a robot vacuum cleaner.
Something like that. Analyze your needs. Good luck!
Arbena
Quote: annnushka27

And they say that the suction power is not as strong with the flask as with the bag.
It happens in different ways, there are those with a bulb that pull much better than others.
I would take a good dry vacuum cleaner and an assistant such as a robot or a battery. This is for a start. And then build up the "fleet of harvesting equipment", if necessary.
* Anyuta *
Quote: igorechek

My advice is this - both in the kitchen there is no universal appliance, and in cleaning.

I totally agree!

And if someone from your acquaintances has such wishlist devices - do not hesitate to ask to test - and you will immediately understand what exactly you need!
Chakchak
We have both a detergent and dry cleaning at home, which we bought almost immediately after buying a detergent. Since Thomas is not suitable for daily cleaning. But the Bosch vacuum cleaner from the new series is powerful, compact and easy to clean, which makes it simply an irreplaceable assistant. I even have a husband, he began to help in cleaning, and you can't question me before.
Lapochkin
When we went to buy a vacuum cleaner, my husband and I could not decide which one we would take, and when we were offered Bosch Runn'n, we immediately bought it. Compact, maneuverable, due to the large rubberized wheels, and the fact that it is a container class at all - no dust and searches for replaceable bags. The filter costs nera 14, which is washable and permanent.
annnushka27
Thanks everyone for the advice!
Quote: Alyonka212

1. The most commonly used upright vacuum cleaner for almost daily cleaning, together with a microfiber mop for washing.
In the near and future plans (required) a mop with an extraction and a robot vacuum cleaner.
What is your upright vacuum cleaner? I have never encountered them. Something like an electric broom?
I have a mop with a spin and 2 floor polishers. A robot vacuum cleaner in your dreams!
Alenka212
There is a topic about electric brooms, there is also a cheap wired Mystery1115. Pulls like a beast. But it smells of dust after it. I didn’t bother buying a rechargeable wireless one, as I was serious about the robot.
sazalexter
Vertical electric brooms https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=2584.0 namely electric brooms,
don't expect a miracle from them
Alenka212
Quote: sazalexter

don't expect a miracle from them
A miracle can only be expected from a robot!
igorechek
and you can only expect a miracle from a robot. But in fact, no one vacuums better than the eyes and hands of a person. The robot vacuum cleaner has a lot of restrictions, namely restrictions on use. It will not work in every apartment and setting. And if you buy a relatively cheap robot (judging by the reviews on other forums), then it has a generally primitive movement program and you will not get except an expensive toy.
Alenka212
Quote: igorechek

But in fact, no one vacuums better than the eyes and hands of a person.
I read more than once angry remarks about those shameful ones who clean the apartment only in the middle ... So they take it for the daily maintenance of the cleanliness of the floor. And we ourselves will clean the nooks. when will hands reach
Darinka35
No, I don't even dream of a robot - a vacuum cleaner - they are very limited in the budget, so most likely we will take it with dry cleaning.It will be necessary to look at the Boshevsky vacuum cleaner in the store, judging by the reviews, a good unit.
mowgli
Quote: igorechek

and you can only expect a miracle from a robot. But in fact, no one vacuums better than the eyes and hands of a person. The robot vacuum cleaner has a lot of restrictions, namely restrictions on use. It will not work in every apartment and setting. And if you buy a relatively cheap robot (judging by the reviews on other forums), then it has a generally primitive movement program and you will not get except an expensive toy.
I don't know ... my robot is just super and I'm not going to give it up
Edera
Quote: Alyonka212

And we ourselves will clean the nooks. when will hands reach
So what is the use of it then? I'll tell you so I have a robot at home. I played around in due time and took it to the closet. So sometimes I show my friends, they say, look, he cleans up and that's it. But he cleans up badly. That is why I decided to buy a washing vacuum cleaner. Bought Thomas Parquet Prestige. In addition to your regular vacuum cleaner. I don't use dry cleaning. But I'm very happy with the wet.
mowgli
Quote: Edera

So what is the use of it then? I'll tell you so I have a robot at home. I played around in due time and took it to the closet. So sometimes I show my friends, they say, look, he cleans up and that's it. But he cleans up badly. That is why I decided to buy a washing vacuum cleaner. Bought Thomas Parquet Prestige. In addition to your regular vacuum cleaner. I don't use dry cleaning. But I'm very happy with the wet.
well, to each his own, use it for your pleasure every day
Aygul
Edera, what kind of robot do you have?
Bijou
Quote: mowgli

well, to each his own, use it for your pleasure every day
What a cruel woman! Well this is necessary - to wish a person everyday mess with the washing vacuum cleaner!))
Julia V
Quote: Bijou

What a cruel woman! Well this is necessary - to wish a person everyday mess with the washing vacuum cleaner!))
now there are such models of washing vacuum cleaners that collect dust in a bag. so you don't need to clean the vacuum cleaner after every cleaning. I have had a detergent for 4 years, and I use it almost every day.
Bijou
Quote: Julia V

now there are such models of washing vacuum cleaners that collect dust in a bag. so you don't need to clean the vacuum cleaner after every cleaning. I have had a detergent for 4 years, and I use it almost every day.
So dry, I also use it every day. Only it is half the size of the detergent and much more convenient. And if you still carry a bag, then why carry a bigger one?))

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