Which vacuum cleaner to buy?

everything Zelmer has been ordered, I'm waiting, the flour of choice is over ..... I will now bother you with questions about operation

It's debatable. My mom Thomas

Does mom have exactly the XT series? I only talked about this series, because they differ from others precisely in the simplicity of the aquabox construction, in overall dimensions.

I was told from the official website that they do not plan to produce bags for the XT series yet, this is a minus
Why are there few reviews on the thomas bread maker?

She doesn't have Thomas TT.
But washing a bucket at Zelmer's - it couldn't be easier: I removed the lid, took out the grate, poured out the contents, rinsed everything and set it to dry for 2 minutes. maximum. What are the difficulties? Is it much smaller in size? Is it worth 2x the overpayment?

Thomas dimensions 31.8x48.6x30.6 cm, easier to clean than other models
Zelmer dimensions 36x35x49 cm
The husband in Zelmera doubts, agrees to overpay, but 7 thousand in the family are not superfluous
There is time, the old vacuum cleaner is plowing

and what about Karcher? is it really worse?

No, not worse. The end result - the cleanliness of the floor and air after cleaning - is the same. Only 2 times more in height, more expensive (I don’t know how many times now) and consumables are 3.5 times more expensive than a Hepa filter, and there is no second one in Zelmera at all, which costs $ 47 and needs to be changed every 2 years, and even more often. Hepa, by the way, does not wash in Karcher and changes once a year and a half. And in Zelmera I have 2.5 years - I don't need to change it yet. Therefore, with an equal end result, the costs are at least 3 times higher + Zelmer can also wash.
I think Zelmer should already pay me for advertising

No, not worse. The end result - the cleanliness of the floor and air after cleaning - is the same. more expensive (I don't know how many times now) and

Karcher is worth 13 thousand. slightly more expensive than Thomas

Before buying Zelmer, I sat on the reviews for all the models I liked - I bought Zelmer, did not regret a single day.

We chose, chose, almost bought ... But the decisive place turned out to be the place where we will store the vacuum cleaner. You can't roam in our small size.
We now have a small old Boshik sphere with dimensions of 26x30x37, and a new one should take its place. Any aquaplik is much more + a bunch of accessories that are also stored somewhere.
Therefore, we turn around and dance in the direction of small boshes or electrolux. Well, now for sure with the S-bag and hepa12-13.
Now we really like the Silence function, plus the good power.
In connection with the new planned course, the question: tell me the site where you can read about the difference between Bosch BGL Maxx ProSilence 452125 and 452131 (on the official website, all functions are the same, only written in a different order)
The same situation with Electrolux UltraOne z88 ...
P.S. We looked at the dimensions first of all (they are a little longer in length, but they will enter the cabinet while standing), we will sell extra attachments (if any).

P.S.S. For washing we will buy some kind of Leifheit mop

Today we accidentally bought a vacuum cleaner, this one:
Bagless vacuum cleaner ROWENTA RO 5396
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the main criterion for buying was compact size, well, the most compact of the available (Saturns and Vitecs were not considered). husband approved in appearance. came home, read reviews on the Internet and ... was upset

tomorrow I will conduct tests, and then we'll see ...

Hello. Yesterday they tried to advertise a Dyson DC 45 vacuum cleaner, like this 🔗 Allegedly, it collects all the dust from the linoleum and does not spit it back out. Powered by a battery.

Not supposedly, but definitely not spitting out. This is Dyson, his filtration is the best, for allergy sufferers.
We were given this on NG.At first I didn't quite understand what to do with him, I just have an ordinary Dyson.
But now I'm so used to it, it's so great that you don't have to pull out a big vacuum cleaner all the time, plug it in, and deal with the wire.
It hangs on my wall. As it is necessary to clean up something, it crumbled, just a little cleaning - I take it in my hands and do everything quickly. 20 minutes can work, the power does not drop.
Yes, you can vacuum so much in 20 minutes
He also has a turbo brush.
So now I take out a regular vacuum cleaner on weekends when I clean the whole apartment. And so - small

Today I bought a vacuum cleaner Lg Vk 89189HMV, this is a vacuum cleaner with a cyclone filter of a new type. You can watch it using this link and there is a video on the page.
🔗 Vacuum cleaner compressor, compresses dust, it is very convenient to clean it. Includes 4 attachments, cord 9m, very convenient for me, private house, large rooms. I worked the vacuum cleaner wonderfully today, I give a rating of 5+. It's good that there were no strangers in the house, you might think that we haven't vacuumed for a year. I am shocked by how much dust there was in the house, and delighted with the work of the vacuum cleaner. The container is transparent and the dust that collects is immediately visible. I bought it in Mvideo, it cost 6990, a 1000r discount on it, and minus 20% for recycling (they handed over an old vacuum cleaner). Only 4800r.
For a very long time I chose a new vacuum cleaner, I wanted a washing one or just with an aquafilter, but I looked at the vacuum cleaners of the sons of one Thomas, and the other Zelmer, washing. Both vacuum cleaners were already under repair (they are not yet two years old), my son looked at the work of my vacuum cleaner, appreciated and said that he had made the right purchase.
The air in the house immediately changed, it smells fresh, I am allergic, for me there was a problem with cleaning. And today she put things in order herself. Buy, you will not regret it.

I've always wanted a cleaning vacuum cleaner. When the old one broke down, my husband and I decided to buy Thomas. The store advised a new model Westphalia HT. Clean well. A couple of times a month I go through wet cleaning. There is a nozzle for upholstered furniture. Of course, I don't want to wash it afterwards, but this principle takes five minutes. The air in the apartment became even cleaner. I recommend it.

Girls, about the Nera filter in Karcher ... now I specially went into the instructions for the vacuum cleaner and read that once every four months the Nera filter needs to be rinsed and dried away from heating devices. So everything is washed, as in all of their vacuum cleaners. I have a Nera-15 in Karcher. And I love this vacuum cleaner dearly and I can cope with the attachments without any problems and its weight, together with water and bells and whistles, does not bother. And how it cleans everything! I'm happy so far, but it's my second month in total

What brand do you have Karcher? Didn't know that Hepa-15 was already being used somewhere

Arbena, I have a steam vacuum cleaner Karcher sv 1902. Reviews about it began on the Internet, there were both good and negative opinions, but I really liked it. I have it this year of release, maybe something in its design has already been finalized.

I am thinking about buying a new vacuum cleaner or other device. His task: to maintain daily cleanliness in the apartment where the dog lives, that is, to collect wool as well. Literally the next day, all cleaning results are nullified, and daily washing the floor is also not an option, you still have to vacuum before washing. There are no carpets or carpets at home. Any practical advice (other than getting rid of the dog) would be grateful.

[Caramel]

I am thinking about buying a new vacuum cleaner or other device. His task: to maintain daily cleanliness in the apartment where the dog lives, that is, to collect wool as well. Literally the next day, all cleaning results are nullified, and washing the floor every day is also not an option, you still have to vacuum before washing. There are no carpets or carpets at home. I would be grateful for any practical advice (except for getting rid of the dog).

Caramel, I already wrote about the Lg Vk 89189HMV vacuum cleaner, I am very pleased with its work. Easy to operate, very easy to clean, the container is small, only 1.2 liters, but collects a lot of dust.Watch the video, just above I gave the link. If it is on sale, buy it, you will not regret it.

I had four cats at home, before there was no problem with cleaning, but when the number of tailed cats grew to 4, the issue of cleaning became acute, and dust and wool somehow began to form in large quantities in the apartment. At home there was an Electrolux vacuum cleaner with a bag, the quality of cleaning did not suit me very much, and it was not very convenient for them to clean every day, nevertheless, a bulky device. I bought Electrolux-Ergorapido 2 in 1, beauty, of course, got up in the morning, walked around the apartment, picked up the garbage, came home from work in the evening, also walked and it seems like wool and dust don't fly. But still, these 2 vacuum cleaners did not remove all the dust. I ordered myself a Samsung-9480 with an aquafilter, I'm waiting for delivery on May 13, I hope that this vacuum cleaner will cope with its tasks of cleaning, smart people advised to choose it, because in addition to cleaning it destroys ticks, various microbes, bacteria, fungi, effective for allergy sufferers (and for me it comes first). I hope that my 2 vacuum cleaners, Electrolux-Ergorapido (I will use it for daily cleaning) and Samsung-9480 (on a weekend) will clean up my apartment. So I will share the result of cleaning with Samsung after Monday, but Ergorapido is very pleased, I love him and he helps me a lot (you can use a robot together, but before you buy a robot, I need to make repairs so that the robot is comfortable to ride).

I think you will be satisfied with the Samsung 9480, I also chose such a vacuum cleaner precisely in connection with cleaning the hairs from cats, the vacuum cleaner perfectly collects both dust and fluff from "shagmatics". And during and after cleaning it does not smell of dust at all, and it is easy to wash the container itself for collecting garbage. However, I have this vacuum cleaner for daily cleaning.

[Galin, Galina]

Galin, Galina, in vacuum cleaners with an aquafilter, I am not satisfied with the fact that the garbage, and even more so the animal hair will merge and can clog the sewer pipe.
And in the Lg Vk 89189HMV vacuum cleaner, dust is compressed and does not scatter during cleaning. I put a small package on the container, turned it over and shook it out, it was clean inside, there was only a trace, like from cement. I put it under water, washed it, wiped it, let it dry. Everything is done easily and quickly, the air in the house has become clean, it is easy to breathe.

No, I collect large garbage, hair and wool, if there is suddenly a lot of it, I collect it by hand, it's just a wet lump floating on top, and I pour the rest into the toilet. Of course, it is not pleasant that sometimes you have to do it with your hands, but you also have to clean up after the fluffy, but even the smallest dust does not fly, it is all moistened with water. Vacuum cleaners with a flask are lighter, more maneuverable, vacuum cleaners with an aquafilter are more bulky - somewhere there should be a container with water, more storage space is required, but for me this is the only drawback of such a vacuum cleaner. I love my Samsung very much, I have already adapted to it and I quickly run through the whole apartment with cleaning, I only have to change the water twice for the whole apartment. When I was choosing a new vacuum cleaner for myself, I searched through a lot of information on the Internet, and here on the site I consulted, listened to the recommendations of various vacuum cleaners. At one time, I was also inclined to take an LG with a compressor, I watched it at work personally, but for some reason I was hooked on this particular vacuum cleaner with an aquafilter and the reviews about it were not bad, so I chose one for myself, which I do not regret at all. This, of course, is just my opinion, my choice.
A very small, handheld vacuum cleaner (here, of course, an ordinary flask) would come in handy, collect something spilled, clean some corners quickly, such as a car, but for now this is in my plans.

I gave a link to a video about a vacuum cleaner compressor, but it does not open. There is now another video. I give a link to the page, and at the end of the page a video. Just look to know what kind of vacuum cleaner it is, may help in choosing a new vacuum cleaner. 🔗

I am thinking about buying a new vacuum cleaner or other device.His task: to maintain daily cleanliness in the apartment where the dog lives, that is, to collect wool as well.

When it comes to cleaning daily, consider a cordless vacuum cleaner. Fiddle with it less than with the usual one, but it cleans well.
I can only talk about our DC45 (others I know only theoretically), it pulls well, you don't have to go anywhere with your hands when cleaning.
It also depends on the size of the area that needs to be cleaned daily. It works for 20 minutes without a break, you can do a lot, but a 3-room apartment is unlikely.

Good day to everyone present! Help with the choice! She solved the problems in the kitchen by purchasing a multicooker Brand (praise to the creator of this truly magical device). Particularly happy with the onset of 30-degree heat. And now, in my free time, the issue of order in the house becomes more relevant. We live in the suburbs. The house is at the stage of construction, finishing, garden and vegetable garden in its infancy. It takes a lot of time. Keeping clean is not easy with a husband, a young child, and a plush Persian cat. There is a washing Thomas, BUT you can't drag this whopper every day (especially to the attic floor). In addition to the usual crumbs and dust, I have sand + earth in the hallway (and drifting further throughout the house), cat hair everywhere and, to top it off, long hair on the carpets. I am facing the choice of a steam mop + an electric broom or a cyclonic vacuum cleaner such as Electrolux, Phillips (oh, how prices have skyrocketed). Help with the choice !!! Dyson, robot vacuum cleaner and the like I can't handle. Budget issue. Forces are no more, first with a broom to drive on two floors, then with a mop!

In general, I would like a 2-in-1 vertical vacuum cleaner + a steam mop. I know for sure that there are such Chinese ones (I saw pictures), but I can't find information about them anywhere. Can someone tell me.

[Galin]

... I ordered myself a Samsung-9480 with an aquafilter, I'm waiting for delivery on May 13, I hope that this vacuum cleaner will cope with its tasks of cleaning, smart people advised to choose it, because in addition to cleaning it destroys ticks, various microbes, bacteria, fungi, effective for allergy sufferers (and for me it comes first). .... So I will share the result of cleaning with Samsung after Monday

Galin, brought? Share your impressions

[Alyonka 212]

Alyonka 212, look just above the link to the Lg cyclone vacuum cleaner-compressor. Easy to use, very convenient, takes up little space, parking is vertical and horizontal. Will look e video about the operation of this vacuum cleaner.

I am thinking about buying a new vacuum cleaner or other device. His task: to maintain daily cleanliness in the apartment where the dog lives, that is, to collect wool as well. Literally the next day, all cleaning results are nullified, and washing the floor every day is not an option either, you still have to vacuum before washing. There are no carpets or carpets at home. I would be grateful for any practical advice (except for getting rid of the dog).

Take a closer look at Thomas. However, if you do not have carpets, look on the Internet for a description of the Black Ocean model. It is also recommended for laminate and parquet flooring. The set includes a special brush. I think the power will pleasantly surprise you.

Something I did not go into the topic for a long time, sorry.
When choosing a vacuum cleaner, I proceeded from the fact that it was powerful, fought against dust with high quality, had an anti-allergenic filter and was suitable for cleaning allergy sufferers.
On May 13, a vacuum cleaner with a Samsung-9480 aquafilter was delivered to me and I immediately tested it. We were very pleased with the results. The vacuum cleaner is really powerful, does great cleaning. The first time I even had to change the water three times. We cleaned everything - upholstered furniture, bedspreads, different attachments allow you to clean absolutely everything. At first it seemed that not necessarily so many of these devices, but when they started cleaning, they realized that all the brushes were in place, and each one found a use - turbo, floor + carpet, and just floor, and for upholstered furniture, for clothes.
Like all vacuum cleaners with an aquafilter, it is rather large, but when you work with it, it is easier to pull it than, for example, Electrolux, which is very maneuverable. I like that you can adjust the power, turn on and turn off the buttons on the handle, you don't have to go to the vacuum cleaner itself. Since I have a lot of wool, I was worried about what would happen to it, but worried in vain, in the filter it floats on the surface in such a lump, you just throw it into the trash, and you pour out the dirty water and rinse the filter itself. The nera filter needs to be rinsed from time to time, it also pleases that there is no need to spend money on consumables. The care does not take much time, which is also important, rinsed the filter, put it back in place, removed the tubes with brushes and that's it.
After cleaning, the room really feels clean and fresh, no smell of dust, very clean, and it’s clean.
To help him, for everyday cleaning, I also have a battery vacuum cleaner Electrolux-Ergorapido, such a mop with a brush hangs on the accumulator, came up, took it off, walked around the apartment, collected garbage, and now Samsung is making me thoroughly clean (you can, of course, use it every day, but since everything is on me alone - cleaning, cooking, work, etc., then after work it would be hard for me to assemble and disassemble the vacuum cleaner every day, although I repeat that it is very light and maneuverable).
I felt the difference in the quality of cleaning, it is very pleasant to use this technique and I recommend taking a closer look at this model when choosing a vacuum cleaner. In any case, I have been using my vacuum cleaner since May 13, I have not noticed any shortcomings at all, well, except that it is rather large compared to ordinary vacuum cleaners, because it also needs a place for a filter with water.
I also liked what was made in Korea, at my own factory.

Thomas is a good vacuum cleaner, but as the only one it is hardly suitable. I have had one for a long time, but I rarely use it. Carpets and upholstered furniture washes well. Any gender. even my non-glued laminate (good suction power). The moisture content of the carpet after cleaning depends on the type of carpet. Some are almost dry, some are wetter. But they dry quickly anyway.
The fluff on the carpet and furniture from a cat (and I have a fluffy Persian) collects very well. But the duration of cleaning also depends on the type of bark pile. Dry cleaning does not attract dust.
Since it is very heavy and impervious to maneuvering and washing it after cleaning is a problem (Inconvenient container for water. It is necessary to wipe the inside. After washing the vacuum cleaner, you have to wash the plumbing) every day you do not want to take it out. : girl_cray: And the longer the periods between cleanings, the more Nero = the filter gets dirty. And the price of it bites.
Now I am looking for an assistant for him every day.

Perhaps I agree, the old Thomas models were big and maybe not the same as the new ones. For example, Twin was not particularly suitable for me because of its appearance. I can't say anything about dry cleaning. I have Westphalia and dry cleaning is great.

I bought a hygiene box and vacuum with Thomas every day, in a dust bag, so the problem of washing the dust itself disappeared, and the draft is good, and the dust does not pass through.

I have a Samsung 9480 for 2 years. I use it 1-2 times a week. So I already forgot how it is, a vacuum cleaner without an aquafilter I only remember that previous stank from the previous one it smelled strongly of something when blowing out air, dust, chtoli And when I started using it, first of all I drew attention to fresh air, that dust does not fly (after all, a 4-stage filter). And I still changed the water while cleaning. Now they have left 1 large carpet, the rest have been removed, so now 1 fill of water is enough, but still

After washing the vacuum cleaner, you have to wash the plumbing)

or it’s so dirty for me, but in the container there is always something floating not only in the water (hair, mainly, and the old pile of the carpet), but also the nailed dust is smeared along the walls.
Of the advantages, I want to note the quality of cleaning special upholstered furniture. brush, really like

I have a LG compressor and there is no smell at the output either.And, no, I washed the filter with shampoo (the second time in six months), now when cleaning a bonus - a light floral aroma in the apartment.
Previously, I also dreamed of a washing machine or with an aquafilter, but I read about the nuances of their operation - this is not for me at all

Previously, I also dreamed of a washing machine or with an aquafilter, but I read about the nuances of their operation - this is not for me at all

I never dreamed of such vacuum cleaners for many reasons, including because of these nuances :)

Previously, I also dreamed of a washing machine or with an aquafilter, but I read about the nuances of their operation - this is not for me at all

Zhen did the right thing that he didn't take the "washing" one .... and stopped dreaming about it: yes: I now "intend" to take a photo and show EVERYONE WHO WISHES the washing vacuum cleaner, first of all, how much space it takes up compared to ordinary (I still have them next to each other), and secondly, what the ultimate the price will come out of this "washing vacuum cleaner", and of the third "dancing with tambourines" - by the amount of time ... I spent twice as much ahead of time on assembly / disassembly and washing, than now on ALL "vacuuming" .... ... a month and a half ago I spat and bought myself the MOST Deshman vacuum cleaner, but now at least the carpets are clean ...

I bought a hygiene box and vacuum with Thomas every day, in a dust bag, so the problem of washing the dust itself disappeared, and the draft is good, and the dust does not pass through.

Yul, they a priori cannot have good cravings! ... The suction power of washing vacuum cleaners is several times lower than that of ordinary vacuum cleaners - this time ... and secondly, the same suction power of washing vacuum cleaners decreases by 10% per year, while in simple ones it is only 5 % ...

Yul, they a priori cannot have good cravings! ... The suction power of washing vacuum cleaners is several times lower than that of ordinary vacuum cleaners - this time ... and secondly, the same suction power of washing vacuum cleaners decreases by 10% per year, while in simple ones it is only 5 % ...

With all due respect to you, but you are telling at least a lie, the power of the detergents is, on the contrary, higher, stupidly due to the fact that they have to suck in not only dust and debris, but also liquid, and this requires a very powerful engine. I assure you that my power regulator consists of four positions. I use the second position and it is enough for the eyes. Where do these figures come from as a percentage of how much the power drops for dry and detergents? Did they come up with it themselves? Remember the film oligarch, where the hero Mashkov said: "You are not only listened to by idiots, but also by smart people." If someone does not know any technical details about detergents, do not bother them with what they have come up with.

With all due respect to you, but you are telling at least a lie, the power of the detergents is, on the contrary, higher, stupidly due to the fact that they have to suck in not only dust and debris, but also liquid, and this requires a very powerful engine. I assure you that my power regulator consists of four positions. I use the second position and it is enough for the eyes. Where do these figures come from as a percentage of how much the power drops for dry and detergents? Did they come up with it themselves? Remember the film oligarch, where the hero Mashkov said: "You are not only listened to by idiots, but also by smart people." If someone does not know any technical details about detergents, do not bother them with what they have come up with.

GIRL ... open the instructions and read about the SUCTION POWER OF THE VACUUM CLEANERS, and not about those numbers that are painted on the boxes ... (1800,2000,1600, etc. - this is POWER SUPPLY)

I read the instructions. And oddly enough I tested it myself. I have it. So excuse me here better. But I'm not going to prove anything to you, and I'm finishing the discussion.

Disadvantages of washing vacuum cleaners, bulkiness, weight, consumables (some require a defoamer), laboriousness in washing and cleaning the dust itself, the most disgusting moment, dilutes dampness in the house (apartment) if in the south of the USSR in Ukraine or in the Caucasus, this is tolerable, then in Moscow and St. Petersburg, just unbearable

I have a washing vacuum cleaner, I am very happy with it.The only drawback is that it is bulky

For washing vacuum cleaners, the maximum power is reached in the first seconds of operation of the vacuum cleaner, and during the rest of the operation it always works in nominal mode. In this case, to find out the value of the rated power, you need to divide the maximum value by the square root of 2 (approximately 1.4).
For example, I have 1400 divided by 1.4, it turns out 1000 W which is more than enough.

Once in the kitchen the faucet burst, so if not for my vacuum cleaner the neighbors would have flooded very much, and once it sucked in all the water, it turned out to be a very convenient function

I have a washing vacuum cleaner, I am very happy with it. The only drawback is that it is bulky

For washing vacuum cleaners, the maximum power is reached in the first seconds of operation of the vacuum cleaner, and during the rest of the operation it always works in nominal mode. In this case, to find out the value of the rated power, you need to divide the maximum value by the square root of 2 (approximately 1.4).
For example, I have 1400 divided by 1.4, it turns out 1000 W which is more than enough.

Once in the kitchen the faucet burst, so if not for my vacuum cleaner the neighbors would have flooded very much, and once it sucked in all the water, it turned out to be a very convenient function

Some people just don't need a detergent per se. Some are attracted to robots, some need regular dry ones. To each his own. but those who have detergents and those who bought them as needed are all happy.

Some people just don't need a detergent per se. Some are attracted to robots, some need regular dry ones. To each his own. but those who have detergents and those who bought them as needed are all happy.

I am satisfied, although there is a conventional and a steam cleaner, but in the work it is constantly washing.

I have a washing machine Roventa, which is over 10 years old. They are not even produced anymore. Combined dust for wet and dry cleaning. On dry - a bag, for washing I insert a container with water. Power 1600. I will not talk about washing. But for the dry - the BEAST! But only with a fresh bag or not very full.

I also have it for wet and dry (Bosch 1400 W).

For example, I have 1400 divided by 1.4, it turns out 1000 W which is more than enough.

Is it true that washing vacuum cleaners have a suction power of about 1000 watts?

Is it true that washing vacuum cleaners have a suction power of about 1000 watts?

Well, I didn’t come up with it myself, but what’s not enough? It plows like a deaf and dumb, everything is clean
They write that for high-quality cleaning there is enough power from 400 W (nominal), if less then you should not take a vacuum cleaner where there is a lot of dust and lint

Not enough, too much.
One of the indicators of a good vacuum cleaner is low power consumption combined with high suction power, which indicates a good quality of the vacuum pump.
But high is not 1000 watts, that's too much.

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Is it true that washing vacuum cleaners have a suction power of about 1000 watts?

Who are you listening to? ... Thomas Twin TT has only 280 watts of SUCTION power ...

I have it. So excuse me here better. But I'm not going to prove anything to you, and I'm finishing the discussion.

Oddly enough ... and for me too .. I actually lived for 5 years ...
Without leading any discussion ... I will answer you about the numbers ... There is an excellent Ukrainian site on Thomas ... The questions there are answered by the "staff" of the Thomas company in the country .... (like Brandovtsy on our forum) .. so so they themselves call these numbers ... Strangely enough, 4 years ago I heard EXACTLY the same numbers about consultants on vacuum cleaners 1000 km from Ukraine ... "coincidence" - so for a minute - ... so that's what I mean. .. Besides all the filters that we change by yourself, in washing vacuum cleaners (I'm talking about Thomas) you still need to clean some garbage ... This is done both in the service and for additional. pay at home .....

For example, I have 1400 divided by 1.4, it turns out 1000 W which is more than enough.

Sandy, where did you get this formula from?

I took a photo of both vacuum cleaners - I'll post it on Monday and show those magic numbers ... with consumed power and suction power...

BUT .. at the moment the MOST MAXIMUM suction power that I know is 550 W ...

PySy ... YANDEX - quote ..
Suction power (from 3 to 600 W)
The power with which the vacuum cleaner sucks up dust.
This value is the product of two components: the suction force, that is, the pressure, which is measured in the height of the water column (Pa), and the air intake speed (measured in cubic meters / s).
Suction power is measured in watts (many manufacturers use the terminology Aerowatt).
The higher the suction power and the lower the power consumption, the more expensive the device is. Other things being the same, it is better to choose a vacuum cleaner with a higher suction power. It is important to note that the suction power gradually decreases as the bag or container is filled in bag models (see Dust Collector). In vacuum cleaners with an aquafilter (see "Dust collector"), this indicator is constant.

Here is a reference for those special to "power" connoisseurs .... 🔗