Tanya-Fanya
Olya, you and I have chosen "Manual" 90 g, as optimal for milk porridge. That means we are not boiling, but rather weary.
petu
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
That means we are not boiling, but rather weary.
Well then, sous-vide --- in general, death raw products are sealed, and then heated at a temperature of 60 * ----- here half a forum would have been lying with poisoning or in a grave ...
Tanya-Fanya
Quote: Sneg6

Has anyone stewed cabbage? Which program to cook on?

I would have extinguished by hand
petu
The cartoon itself is like a thermos --- keeps the temperature very well .... the lid is closed - little air enters - bacteria grow poorly
selenа
petu, Ol, no one argues that multicooker is a blessing and with suvid everything is not so simple, and the proverb "Until the thunder breaks out, the peasant will not cross himself" is also about us
petu
Nadya, I don’t convince anyone, I don’t call, but I don’t recognize either, and I will repeat once again ----- half the forum would lie with poisoning, and here we have doctors and SES workers --- certainly there would be a trumpet on the Internet --- - badly bad, etc. I will repeat once again --- you are afraid --- freeze both milk and water + cereals in the micro-and for a delayed start, the cartoon keeps heat well --- nothing will spoil ... , freezing food replaces cooking, so we get out of the freezer * boiled-frozen pumpkin, leaves, beans in pods ---- noticed how the structure changes ... (in the permafrost and mammoths are found not decomposed --- bacteria don't work ......)
selenа
Quote: petu
I will repeat once again --- you are afraid --- freeze both milk and water + cereals in the micro-and for a delayed start,
This is a completely different technology that I support, milk from the refrigerator, some ice, no sugar ... and everything will be fine
petu
Firstly, we pour any boiled milk into a cartoon or pasteurized, and there a priori there can be no bacteria ---- (and a cartoon is like a thermos ....)
Tanya-Fanya
Girls, thank you very much for your participation in the discussion of dairy issues.
The exchange of experience makes you think once again about the cleanliness and quality of home cooking.
Multicooker relaxes
Bast1nda
Quote: petu

Also, if the porridge is running, then we cook it right away in water, and when it thickens, we add milk ... and cook it without fear of escapes ...
Olya, by the way, yes, I also tested such a recipe on a Zelmer experimentally. Zelmer was powerful and hence problematic for milk, it was just that the program was there and cooked with a bang, but with milk it was easy. With a capacity of 820 for a small container, porridge ran away there at such a speed - right into the street))))) I even cooked porridge on it in this way. First on the water and then just poured milk into it and left it on for a little while.
Bast1nda
Quote: selenа

Tanya, I think it's a bad idea with milk, even without a hint
There it can grow overnight
I'm talking about that too. In the subject of yogurt makers I read that milk is not boiled at all. You can not do it this way. Pathogenic microflora grows gorgeous at 38 degrees. You can build it up there. And milk poisoning is one of the most severe.
I don't put the porridge on a delayed start, but somehow I cooked millet on the stove (my cartoon was in the warranty repair for a long time) and the milk curdled. I still did not understand what it was, it never happened again, the porridge tasted normal, but I threw it out to the birds, somehow I could not eat with curdled grains. I think it was about the quality of the milk.
You cannot ferment non-sterile, but if you then boil it, then of course there are no problems, except for curdled milk, I cannot eat such porridge.

By the way, this is how I made porridge here, this is for owls to be warm, it turns out like from a stove.Rice porridge, in the evening we cook it a little porridge on the program, with milk of course 50/50, bringing to a boil, then leave it on heating until morning. It turns out an excellent porridge, just put your cereal / liquid proportions. I like to spread porridge and a little thinner, so I shift the liquid / cereal balance towards liquid. Boiled milk, there are no fears and in fact it remains warm for breakfast - well, who cares.
Aluwka
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
I bake cottage cheese casserole at 90 degrees also 1 hour 30 minutes. Let me stand - walk, let him "think about his behavior" and not think to fall. There is condensation, I admit it. I open the lid and immediately lay a cloth napkin - it absorbs well.
Girls, to me on you: yes: Here, Tanya, hence the conclusion - observation, as they say IMHO) The lower the temperature, the more condensation.
Yesterday I nevertheless conducted an experiment with napkins that were in a roll, covered the entire bowl with it, well, to be sure), and ... okay, I thought, suddenly the steam would be delayed or something. I open the lid - the water flows straight onto the fabric and everything is OK. For the whole bowl, this is, of course, superfluous, but you can close a small part of it when baking or just put a part of the napkin on the side, it fits there perfectly and does not interfere with the process. Well, I shared it, suddenly it will be useful to someone
Bast1nda
Aluwka, and I take a plump viscose napkin, well, there are such square multi-colored ones, so I immediately wipe the lid from the inside with it and everything is OK
mamusi
Girls! Urrah! I brought him my Filka
I washed it, turned it on to boil some water ... And the buttons are UNUSUAL for me, and there is also a sticker on them (I haven't removed it yet). Well, it is said in manual mode for 5 minutes.
I will not get used to HOW to include 5 minutes. The clock lights up immediately - I read the instructions. That at first the clock blinks, then stops blinking, and then there will be minutes ... And HOW do I remove the clock ... and set only minutes !!! CAN'T RESPECT THE SAME !!!
Antonovka
mamusi,
Congratulations on the arrival of multi)) You first click the hours to 0, then the minutes will start flashing
mamusi
Yeah ... I ripped off the sticker ... Everything became visible! I managed to set 5 minutes! HAPPY protest it! I'm afraid. Does it work?
In general, my clumsy (or something) fingers do not cope well with buttons ...
Tililimka she is so MORNING! In general, emotions through the EDGE I have!
Well, very pretty Filka! And even after Panasik seems so TINY! Numb.
mamusi
Antonovka, Thank you! Wait ... I'll do everything. Already ... clicked and turned on. I'm waiting!
Biryusa
mamusi, Rita! In the instructions on the back there is a "Change cooking time" algorithm.
But in 5 minutes nothing will boil on the Manual one - in this mode the countdown starts immediately after pressing the "Start" button. Either set a little more time, or drive it out on Kasha, boil for a few minutes, and turn it off manually.
Antonovka
Biryusa,
Exactly, Ol - here I am a bastard - after all, in Manual the countdown immediately begins
mamusi
My water in manual mode did NOT boil in five minutes !! What's wrong?
Antonovka
mamusi,
Rita, read above))))
Biryusa
Quote: mamusi
My water in manual mode did NOT boil in five minutes !! What's wrong?

Quote: Biryusa
in 5 minutes nothing will boil on the Manual one - in this mode the countdown starts immediately after pressing the "Start" button. Either set a little more time, or drive it out on Kasha, it will boil for a few minutes, and turn it off manually.
And one more thing: on Manual, in addition to the time, you need to set the temperature, it seems to be 30 degrees there by default.
Rit, drive it better on Kasha - there the countdown starts from the moment of boiling.
mamusi
Damn ... I read you girls right now! I'll do it ... it's already warming
And then the instructions say "Boil for 5 minutes in manual mode" - I took it there! ..
(And the recipe book is so colorful)))
mamusi
Biryusa, Thank you, OL, right now, otherwise your hands are shaking ... laughter
Pchela maja
Rita, congratulations on the baby! let it work for a long time and please)
Filka with Panasik is a cool tandem!
mamusi
And I wanted to cook millet-rice porridge in water and with butter immediately after testing. Do not poke your nose where to see the proportion.
The Book says for 100 grams of cereal 400 grams of milk / water, but there is a pumpkin, and I have NO pumpkin ...and I want porridge! Reduce then, perhaps, the amount of water?
Tanya-Fanya
Quote: mamusi

Damn ... I read you girls right now! I'll do it ... it's already warming
And then the instructions say "Boil for 5 minutes in manual mode" - I took it there! ..
(And the recipe book is so colorful)))

Rita, congratulations on the new addition!
About the temperature it was necessary to read the materiel earlier, while the arrival of Filkin was awaiting We all here, with the exception of those who were especially attentive and studying Manna's instructions in advance, went through "ah! Oh!
Ritochka, I’ll say about the colorful little book: don’t get carried away too much, it’s sometimes not very correct with the regimes. In short, read the coming 145 pages
Tanya-Fanya
Quote: mamusi

And I wanted to cook millet-rice porridge in water and with butter immediately after testing. Do not poke your nose where to see the proportion?

On page 18 is a master class from Manna.
Mannochke
mamusi
On the porridge, the water boils - at first the lights were running "in a square", and now the countdown has started - it's already on for 8 minutes ... uh, probably ... the process has begun ...
Thank you, FRIENDS, for not quitting ... I didn’t even expect that I would fall into such a panic (having already two multipliers at home)
Tanya-Fanya
Gy-gyyyyy, girls, a couple more weeks and we were just as nervous "squares", "snakes", "boils or not boils" it's funny to look at ourselves from the outside
Ritochka, go ahead. Cook porridge
mamusi
Tanya-Fanya, I went to look ... I calm down a little ... The water on the "Porridge" started to boil Everything is OK!
Tanya-Fanya
No, can you imagine she "went to see" ?! Rita, how dare you move away from Filka ?! Even for a second
Biryusa
Quote: mamusi
On the porridge, the water boils - at first the lights were running "in a square", and now the countdown has started - it's already on for 8 minutes ... uh, probably ... the process has begun ...
Ritul, don't think that I want to upset you, but be prepared for the fact that the Molok can run away on Kasha - two-thirds of Fili's users faced this. If everything goes well for you, then you will enter a happy minority
I cook milk porridge in Manual mode at 90 degrees, and the porridge is really boiling! But he doesn't run away.
mamusi
All! turned on porridge according to Mannochka's master class! 40 minutes. I will wait.
And why does the recipe book cost 10 minutes (by default ...) That the book is lying, but the girls - they put too little time ...
And I was so happy - the book is BEAUTIFUL ...
vernisag
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mamusi
Biryusa, Olenka ... and I'm cooking right now on the water. Although I love milk porridge, I’m temporarily boiling it in water. Sometimes in Panasika I cook porridge 3 parts of water, 2 parts of milk, I make a rim from butter - I NEVER run away. Never ... But we'll see in Fillet! ..
Thanks for the warning.
I have already prepared napkins - for condensation ... I'm waiting ...
petu
Quote: mamusi
Sometimes in Panasika I cook porridge 3 parts of water, 2 parts of milk, I make a rim of butter
Panasonic10 --- Your butter * in a drum * ---- even cook a spoonful, at least cook all 3 liters of milk porridge to the eyeballs --- will cook --- will not run away, and will not weld .... So, you can not you can try not to dilute with lubrication and everything will be fine (((my eight-year experience of owning Panasonic makes me talk about this with full confidence) - you can honestly cook a tablespoon of cereal (only the proportions must be observed ...)
mamusi
petu, I do not dilute with water because of this ... I just love it so much more and I often cook just on water .. and I rarely do pure MILK ... Thank you! Panasonic with us is UMNICHKA! I hope to make friends with Filichka as well!
mamusi
Quote: Tanya-Fania
In short, read the coming 145 pages
Damn ... she studied, studied ... for several days! And how the cartoon dragged EERALLY confused. It differs in management from my Shteba and from Panasik (just like an airplane)))
mamusi
How dare ...: lol: WHAT and to the toilet NIZZYA
mamusi
petu,
Quote: petu
Panasonic10 --- Your butter * on-drum * ---- even cook a spoonful, even cook all 3 liters of milk porridge to the eyeballs --- cook --- won't run away, and won't weld ...
I didn't want to argue ... I wasn't a hunter before that ...But, unfortunately, the porridge once ran through the valve in Panasika, so much so that I washed everything ... Well, okay ... Now I always (if milk porridge) circle the rim with butter - it's easy for me to do it! Absolutely. I never cook a lot of porridge (I don't need a liter))).
Apparently I have a smart copy!

Biryusa, Olya, the porridge is boiling - I looked in - could not stand it - everything is boiling calmly - not violently. 8 minutes left (out of forty) NOTHING yet escaped! Uff!
Pchela maja
My lid in the film got dirty only when I cooked from fat milk or when I diluted fat cream with water.
From ordinary milk, everything is normal.
mamusi
Girls - REPORT! I turned it off 5 minutes earlier ... The porridge is ready already. The proportions were exactly like Manna's in the master class. But I did it on water and with butter. In my opinion, the porridge is already very thickened (although Manna has milk!). And it also stuck to the bottom a little ... I expected it, like Panasik's, will never stick. However, it is not overcooked and not dry. There is enough moisture! What's with the bowl, is it supposed to be ..?
Py Sy .. I'm already eating porridge - delicious! Fluffy!
Pchela maja
Quote: mamusi
However, it is not overcooked and not dry. There is enough moisture! What's with the bowl, is it supposed to be ..?
Here it also happens with me, if in the process you do not mix at least once.
Therefore, after turning on and boiling, I still stir it once with a silicone spoon and leave it to cook until tender.
In the morning I cook porridge since the night (we go to bed late), then I turn it off completely.
In the morning we get up, turn it on for heating, while we wash, dress - it is already warm, as it should.
Tanya-Fanya
Ritochka! Stop! the remaining 7 minutes no, no! Nowhere nezzzzza!
If you cook on the "Porridge" mode, then a couple of minutes before the end it should boil sharply, so to speak, "control shot".

Tek-s, we are waiting for the first report

And what did I write if she took it on and off 5 minutes earlier
Tanya-Fanya
And I never had anything pah-pah-pah.
True, out of habit, I thinly grease the bottom with oil, for which every time Irochka-RepeShok (Irochka) receives a soft offer to refuse this stupid occupation with oil
Pchela maja
I don't have it that sticks, of course there is no crust at the bottom.
It's just that it's unevenly thick at the bottom. Stir once is usually enough.
Still, I am very pleased with the gossip bowl.
mamusi
Quote: Tanya-Fania
And I never had anything pah-pah-pah.
And here it’s like this ... it stuck a little ... I’m even somehow upset about it ... Again we need dances around with multi - oil grease the bottom ... mix it up ... in advance
And if I need not to look at all ... leave it altogether .. I need to turn it on and move away ... and then come and just eat!

ABOUT! If I gave her a "BOTTLE" at the end, as you say, then she would even stick !?

mamusi
Quote: Pchela Maja
I don't have it that sticks, of course there is no crust at the bottom.
No, I don't have a crust either! But it got to the bottom! Hope that it will wash well. And I turned it off immediately. SHE did not go into heating. And if I was not there and Onea went into heating, then it would stick even more ...
Conclusion I will cook in a different mode, namely millet-rice. So this is the first try!

I will continue to study!
Thank you all girls for the tips!
Sedne
Margarita, it washes well, I also have porridge.

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