Choosing a gas stove

Well, in any case, I do not advise a person to climb there without the appropriate qualifications. Gas is cooler than electricity. "But nothing is impossible for a person with intelligence." It is possible to voice the model of the stove, what if there is service documentation for it?

Damn it, I thought I'd save some money.
I have a panel, domino (two-burner) ARISTON DZ 20S GH / HA
I all like it, but this problem with arson just lit me up ... I hold the match, because it does not flare up immediately, but hisses and only then after a couple of seconds it lights up, and then you have to hold down the handle for about 20 seconds, and if I underexposed, right away extinguished. Do you really have to call the gas workers? Because I don't want to get rid of gas control.
Maybe he really stands crooked there (you were able to make your grandma!) Maybe we will succeed, all the more your descriptions were very useful point by point!

Damn it, I thought I'd save some money.
I have a panel, domino (two-burner) ARISTON DZ 20S GH / HA
I like it all, but this problem with arson just lit me up ... I hold the match, because it doesn’t flash right away, but it hisses and only then after a couple of seconds it lights up, and then you have to hold down the handle for about 20 seconds, and if it’s underexposed, right away extinguished. Do you really have to call the gas workers? Because I don't want to get rid of gas control.
Maybe he really stands crooked there (you were able to make your grandma!) Maybe we will succeed, all the more your descriptions were very useful point by point!

Inna, hello! I called not from Gorgaz, but from the Gorenie service center. So he said that if you officially submit an application to Gorgaz to remove gas control, then they are unlikely to go to do it. They shouldn't make the system more dangerous. Here's to install the gas control - they can come or adjust it, but in order to come and take it off with their own hands, and then answer, if anything, they will not go for it. So it is necessary to invite some gasman, so to speak, on a private basis, or a specialist from the service center, if Ariston has one, if you decide to shoot completely. And to regulate - then from Gorgaz, that's their job.

No, Tanya, I don't want to clean it at all, because it wasn't fools who invented it. But adjust the nadot.

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Here is to install gas control - can come or adjust his.

A branded service center should understand its stoves. At a minimum, check the correct installation and conformity of the injectors. And the gas control must function within the limits specified in the instructions. I did not find the instruction for this model, the four-burner one says "6 seconds maximum". Call the master with attorney stopwatch and let him show you how this can be done. If it doesn't keep up, let it regulate or look for a malfunction.
Gorgaz is repairing something of the level of "Druzhkovka" or "Brest", although the level of specialists is different.

A branded service center should understand its stoves. At a minimum, check the correct installation and conformity of the injectors. And the gas control must function within the limits specified in the instructions. I did not find an instruction for this model, the four-burner one says "6 seconds maximum". Call the master with attorney stopwatch and let him show you how this can be done. If it does not fit, let it regulate or look for a malfunction.
Gorgaz is repairing something of the level of "Druzhkovka" or "Brest", although the level of specialists is different.

The only bad thing is that not all, even regional centers, have a branded service of any brand, and what can we say about small towns where you can still meet with gorgaz, but hardly with an official service. I don’t know how it’s about stoves, but I’ve bought something from Dax’s equipment, because there is no official service in Ukraine at all.

[Jeffrey]

Jeffrey, thanks for the advice, I'll try to find a "traffic controller"! Definitely this cannot go on ...

Tan, in our service centers, as a rule, all firms to the heap, that is, the motto "we can do everything." But let's look!

Let's be clear on one point. I have already written in this thread many times, but I will repeat myself. The stove must initially be connected according to the instructions. Only then can you make any claims to its functionality. And then we with sazalexterom somehow tried to find out why the PMM of one forum member is buggy, based on the assumption that the machine is connected correctly. Like we have. In the end, it turned out that she was plugging it through two cheap Chinese extension cords.
About "clean the rust and tighten" it refers to something that has been stored somewhere in a damp room for a long time. Did you take out your new plates from the packaging? Means already disappears.
But the correspondence of the nozzles can and should be checked. In my initially there were nozzles "for Europe", for greater gas pressure. And in addition, there were two more sets: for "Russian gas" and a liquefied balloon. If there are the wrong nozzles, then exactly what you describe will turn out - it does not light up for two minutes and goes out spontaneously. And don't listen to tales about "it's because their pressure is higher!"
If the injectors are correct, but still the stove is "cut out", read the instructions, section "troubleshooting". Maybe the "hole" is clogged or some kind of burr that the gas does not get into the area of ​​the burner where the ignition pimp is. There may still be a barely noticeable draft. This also happens to me if the window is open.

That's right!
I will add that the electric ignition has started to work poorly recently.
I cleaned the main contact, everything worked like a clock.
It turned out that once something escaped from the pan, filling the stove.
The stove was washed, but the contacts remained dirty. This is not visible.
And I wondered what could be ...

My oven maintains the set temperature by turning the gas on and off completely. It is here that sometimes it starts to sausage and starts, that is, the ignition does not occur periodically, especially when the temperature is set above 210-220 degrees.
They contacted the service center, the masters said that these ovens had problems with their "brains", and everyone who bought them was suffering with them. We ordered a new board, waited 2 months, replaced it, the result is both the stove and the periodically wedge.
Question: can the electric ignition or whatever controls it be caused by the fact that the oven is connected to the mains without grounding?

I guess grounding has nothing to do with it.
I do not have such a stove, but I can imagine how it happens - a gas boiler works according to the same principle. You set the temperature and it turns on and off by itself.
The problem, apparently, is the fire. Somewhere does not contact.

[Sonadora]

Sonadora, oh, and a fancy oven, apparently. But so many negative reviews ... or rather, not a single positive one ...
I read the instructions. A couple of questions immediately arose. Gas "fittings" are very critical to the gaps in the back at the bottom and at the front at the top. They must strictly be no less than indicated in the instructions. The nozzle, or "injector" must also be set corresponding to our pressure. There are also two locks there to increase security. Which one works? The "safety thermostat" should shut down the oven tightly. The indicator and backlight go off. Until it has cooled completely, you cannot turn it on again. The second one blocks only the gas supply. In this case, the acc. indicator on the front panel. The lock can be removed by turning both knobs to the extreme position, to a minimum.What happens to your oven? It seems like it should turn on again, but not turn on?

[Jefry]

oh and a fancy oven, apparently. But so many negative reviews ... or rather, not a single positive one ...

What is heaped up - I don't know, an ordinary-looking gas oven with a grill and gas control. This was the only thing bought without first studying the Internet. Who knew that Electrolux, but for that kind of money, could be problematic.

The second one blocks only the gas supply. In this case, the acc. indicator on the front panel. The lock can be removed by turning both knobs to the extreme position, to a minimum.

This is exactly what happens, the indicator comes on. I remove the lock by turning the right handle to the zero position, then turn it on again - the gas ignites, and then it may not turn on again. I did not find any pattern, it can work for 2-3 hours normally, but the next day I want to kick it, especially when I bake bread in it.
The idea with the "ground" arose after the plug in the socket was turned 180 degrees - it began to work very badly.
Jefry, and this second sensor can be removed from it?

I have something that one burner is made with electric ignition, you keep it lit up, just let it go out ...

Girls, how do you put chicken on a spit? no matter how hard I tried according to the instructions, it scrolls the infection and that's it, and abandoned it

[Jefry]

The idea with the "ground" arose after the plug in the socket was turned 180 degrees - it began to work very badly.
Jefry, and this second sensor can be removed from it?

There may be a poor connection in the socket or undervoltage. The presence / absence of grounding should not affect the operation of the stove in any way.
Suppose your stove is functioning like this: the thermostat detects "the temperature has dropped, it's time to turn on". The solenoid valve is triggered, the gas has gone. Probably a click is heard at this moment. Simultaneously with it, the ignition is switched on. Gas control waits for a few seconds, if there is no flame, the valve closes and the blocking indicator lights up. If this protection is bypassed, then we get "a bomber, a fireman, a waste ..." The thermostat and ignition definitely work. The solenoid valve may be serviceable, but it will not work at the slightest decrease in the voltage in the network or poor contacts in the outlet. Maybe Electrolux uses the principle of "plus or minus five percent" not only in dishwashers? To test this version, you can plug the stove into a different outlet or through a stabilizer.

So my husband and I, too, have already morally and financially approached to change our NORD gas stove to another NORMAL PLATE. So I got this OODA and why did we just buy it. How do you consider GEFEST plates the best option for baking or is it better to choose BURNING plates? Please advise

If for baking, then any with an electric oven is better. No one has problems and dances with tambourines.

So my husband and I, too, have already morally and financially approached to change our NORD gas stove to another NORMAL PLATE. So I got this OODA and why did we just buy it. How do you consider GEFEST plates the best option for baking or is it better to choose BURNING plates? Please advise

If you read this topic carefully, you might have noticed that very few people are satisfied with their gas ovens. : girl_in_dreams: And I am among them, I have Hephaestus, as soon as I do not adapt to my oven Therefore, my advice, pay attention to the combined stoves: top gas, bottom electric oven, and you will be happy

I confirm the above and repeat (for the umpteenth time): an electric oven is just some kind of holiday!

Girls, how do you put chicken on a spit? no matter how hard I tried according to the instructions, it scrolls through the infection and that's it, so I abandoned it

Something like that:
"face"
I clamp one fork so that the carcass is exactly in the center of the oven.


"profile"
I drive the second one as much as possible at an angle in the keel area.


"in free flight"
Legs are tied with thread, just so they don't dangle


while I inserted pictures here, the result is a little

So my husband and I, too, have already morally and financially approached to change our NORD gas stove to another NORMAL PLATE. So I got this OODA and why did we just buy it. How do you read GEFEST cookers the best option for baking, or is it better to choose BURNING cookers? Please advise

Oh, Nord. Are you from Donetsk for an hour?
People say correctly about electric ovens, it is better than gas ovens, in which gas control does not give life, and there is also the problem of such ovens that the heat is unevenly distributed - the bottom burns out, and the top is white. I had it in my gas burning. I had to buy a special baking stone in the form of a clay flower tray. Now OK. A friend's got Gorenie, but she's a combination, with an electric oven, she really likes it. In Hephaestus, the electrical ignition of the burners from above often fails very quickly. It was like that for my mother, it immediately went out of order and then manually set it on fire. Now I bought myself Ariston combined. Top - gas, oven - electric. I'm also very happy.

Peace be with you bakers!
and I so that the wings do not burn: yes: I make cuts in the skin and fill the tips there
wings: yes: and secure with a toothpick
and the legs so that they are not pulled together in a sash with a harsh thread

Hello everyone! I keep thinking about the stove (surface and oven). how many have read ... I just can't decide. Electrics are intermittent, sometimes blinking. Like email ovens react to this? Disabled immediately, or are the settings saved? And if the elektr. completely disconnected - can you light the gas comfort yourself with a lighter? Here I spotted the beige ones. they suit me very much in color - gas -
Ardo D 662 RCRS and electrical Gorenje K 57375 RW (K 67333). I would be very grateful for the answer, but I'm afraid that my questions will not end there.

My (Electrolux) lighter can be lit any time you want. The oven settings are not saved. The light turned off - the oven turned off.

My Electric Ignition Burner can also be lit with a match.

If for baking, then any with an electric oven is better. No one has problems and dances with tambourines.

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I agree that electric ovens are better than gas ovens. But as they say "for family reasons" we have to choose the option of a gas oven. And I don't know what to choose from yet.

Oh, Nord. Are you from Donetsk for an hour?
People say correctly about electric ovens, it is better than gas ovens, in which gas control does not give life, and there is also the problem of such ovens that the heat is unevenly distributed - the bottom burns out, and the top is white. I had it in my gas burning. I had to buy a special baking stone in the form of a clay flower tray. Now OK. A friend has Gorenie, but she's a combination, with an electric oven, she really likes it. In Hephaestus, the electrical ignition of the burners from above often fails very quickly. It was like that for my mother, it immediately went out of order and then manually set it on fire. Now I bought myself Ariston combined. Top - gas, oven - electric. I'm also very happy.

Why did you decide that I am from Donetsk? Yes, I would buy a combined stove, but our lights are often turned off. Once the bread put the oven in the bread maker and the light was turned off - everything went down the drain. Therefore, you have to choose from gas stoves with gas ovens. Help at least one of them to find something better, please.

Why did you decide that I am from Donetsk? Yes, I would buy a combined stove, but our lights are often turned off. Once the bread put the oven in the bread maker and the light was turned off - everything went down the drain. Therefore, you have to choose from gas stoves with gas ovens. Help at least one of them to find something better, please.

RICHes, so you read the Temko and draw conclusions for yourself, you still have to choose. In the topic, girls share their experience of using stoves .....If you go to Hotline from Ukraine, set the desired parameters for choosing a stove, compare, read reviews ...

Why did you decide that I am from Donetsk?

That just Nord is made in my native Donetsk. Like refrigerators and other Nord devices. Although I don't like their technique. I don't have her in my house, no matter how patriot of my city I am. So I thought, maybe we are fellow countrymen.

Hello everyone!
After purchasing HP, I decided to buy a stove, in two days I persuaded my husband, and today I bought it! Hephaestus 6100-04. It was painfully a good day for buying equipment (the Moon is in Aquarius and my horoscope is good). Satisfied!
Now I think, is it possible to connect it ourselves? , and Gorgaz, for example, after the NG holidays to call for verification.
(While we are sitting without money, we just ... we eat pasture: potatoes, cereals and preparations; and we don’t want to wait another 3 weeks before connecting.

Well, you yourself should know whether you will be able to connect it yourself or not. My husband always connects himself. And we do not call Gorgaz for inspection.

[WIKI]

Thank you! He will be able to connect, I'm just worried, suddenly Gorgaz won't put a stamp for a guarantee, or something else, what a fine for unauthorized connection and replacement of plates will slap ...
WIKI, and when then Gorgaz comes to you with a check, and you have another stove installed, not the one that is indicated in the contract with them, that they do not even say anything? It seems like it is not supposed to be in their way. It seems that for the change of gas appliances something is unauthorized there ...
And you just get a guarantee from the date of production, yes, not from the date of sale?

[Olex]

Olex ! I have such a beige Ardo. I bought it a year and a half ago. The oven warmed up a lot from the bottom until it put a sheet of salt at the very bottom. Now bakes evenly. A familiar gasman immediately adjusted the piezo ignition in the oven to me, it ignites like a clock. I like cast-iron grates, but the burners are located in a bad way: the largest in front, and the middle ones in the back. Not very convenient yet - the glass top cover cannot be removed, it is not very convenient to wash. On the other hand, the outer glass slides out conveniently in the oven, and the entire door can be easily removed.

Our documents do not indicate the model of the plate.
It is simply written: 4-burner gas stove.

The warranty period is established by the manufacturer or seller. The installation does not affect this in any way. The warranty period starts from the date of sale. The seller or the manufacturer is also responsible for defects in the stove.
An exception is made in cases in which the flaws of the stove have arisen precisely because of incorrect connection / installation.

We have indicated directly in the instructions for the stove that the warranty period starts from the date of sale, and in the absence of an installation stamp, from the date of manufacture by the manufacturer. and gas is indicated in the contract. column and plate model ... Yes, it looks like we still need to contact them for a stamp about the installation ...
I found it, this is in the contract for those services, the models are indicated, but in the contract for the supply of gas, there are no models. So maybe it will be possible at the next. technical inspection just indicate a new one, and that's it. I'll go tomorrow and find out how things are.

Something like that:

Eugene thank you very much for the visual aid, as soon as I didn’t put it on, it seems to sit tightly on the spit, and when it starts spinning in the oven ... the chicken stands still, and the spit spins

How to bake meringues in a new gas oven? The temperature there is from 140? In the old one, everything is solved with a slightly open oven, but here what will the gas control say? Or just look with an electric one?

How to bake meringues in a new gas oven? The temperature there is from 140? In the old one, everything is solved with a slightly open oven, but here what will the gas control say? Or just look with an electric one?

I think it won't say anything, just if it suddenly blows out the burner with a draft, the gas will shut off.
But it is definitely necessary to take it anyway with an electrician, even for a meringue, at least for anything. Here on every page people write why this is so. Of course, it is necessary that there is a powerful outlet for it and with grounding, it will not work in a normal one.

[Jefry]

By the way, right here Jefry told how to regulate gas control. There are still a lot of his valuable posts, read it.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=3366.0
It is necessary to regulate the gas control so as not to hold the button for minutes. And it works badly because the injectors do not correspond to our gas pressure. And we buy such gas. stoves and expect good work from them. This means that after the purchase it is necessary not only to install the stove and enjoy it, but to bother looking for suitable nozzles, + pay denyuzhku + a master for them to change them. Of course, you can do nothing of this, but suffer for years, like me. It is a pity that three years ago I did not know about these nozzles.
But I am sure that you think (as I do, and each in its own time): Or maybe I will be lucky and my gas. the oven will be fine. What can I say - a lottery with a minimum probability of winning. I wish you good luck with your choice.

Here I have a minimum 150 degrees, when the oven is opened, the gas control does not work while the gas is on. With the door ajar, the temperature is already 60 degrees.

works poorly because they do not match the injectors and our gas pressure. And we buy such gas. stoves and expect good work from them. This means that after the purchase, it is necessary not only to install the stove and enjoy it, but to bother finding suitable nozzles, + pay denyuzhku + a master for them to change them. Of course, you can do nothing of this, but suffer for years, like me. It is a pity that three years ago I did not know about these nozzles.
But I am sure that you think (as I do, and each in its own time): Or maybe I will be lucky and my gas. the oven will be fine. What can I say - a lottery with a minimum probability of winning. I wish you good luck with your choice.

We already have an old gas stove, but when we bought it in the store, the seller asked what kind of gas we had - natural or bottled. We also did not know about the nozzles, so he explained that others are needed for the balloon one, he offered to change it immediately. We, of course, agreed, walked for an hour and came for the stove. But we started to have enough gas cylinder for six months or more, and before that, it ended in a month and a half.

Girls, though I have a built-in gas surface and email. a Gorenie oven, but earlier there was an ordinary Hephaestus stove with a gas oven. So I want to say, about the oven, that this is of course heaven and earth. Email the oven is just super, (y) cannot be compared to a gas oven. Although there is gas in the apartment, it did not stop me. The husband also connected everything himself and did not call anyone. Based on the huge advantages of email. ovens, I want my mother to buy a combined cooker Bosch HGV 645220 R. Maybe someone already has it? Share your impressions, pliz.

Here I have a minimum 150 degrees, when the oven is opened, the gas control does not work while the gas is on. With the door ajar, the temperature is already 60 degrees

Sandy thanks for the answer! I understood correctly - if you slightly open the door and fix the temperature, you can select the desired small temperature and the gas will not turn off So it is quite possible to achieve 100

Sandy thanks for the answer! I understood correctly - if you slightly open the door and fix the temperature, you can select the desired small and the gas will not turn off So it is quite possible to achieve 100

The door of the oven is fixed by itself, you can open it more and less (it will not close), while the gas does not go out on its own, it is really possible to set 100 degrees, but personally I cannot get less than 60. That is, in the oven you set the minimum temperature (it is fixed with a handle of 150 degrees), then by opening the door you lower the temperature (I have a minimum of 60).
That's when I wanted to lower the temperature and adjust the knob less than 150, then the gas control worked.

[min]

In my ARDO PL 1064 XS gas oven, T is set from 260C to 140C and there is also the last value on the T setting knob, this is min, when exposed min installed by T 80C.For me, this was a very pleasant bonus, since none of the former ovens had such a T. Automatic ignition is very good, it does not go out. The stove is really very good, everything is cooked and baked for five plus. Only the fact that it is a stainless steel is bad - it is inconvenient to take care of it.

[Wasp]

Hello girls! User Wasp Kindly asked me to share my impressions of the gas stove, suddenly someone will help in choosing. I have a stove Kaiser HGG 64521 KR, 🔗... I have been using it since August. I am very pleased, the oven is excellent, everything that I try to bake: baked goods, meat, casseroles, everything turns out great. The only thing that I tried to make pies on their own baking sheet, the bottom was already fried, the top was all white, but the pies were baked. I just bake in my baking trays, molds that I've tested over the years. Before that there was De'Longhi, served for 14 years, the thermostat in the oven was covered, I had to change the stove, although it was also super. I will be glad if I could help with something.

RICHes, so you read the Temko and make conclusions for yourself, you still have to choose. In the topic girls share their experience of using stoves ..... If you go to Hotline from Ukraine, set the desired parameters for choosing a stove, compare, read reviews .. ...

If you have carefully read my messages, then I am interested in reviews of stoves with gas ovens, for example, Gorenya or Hephaestus. Interested in the opinions of users of gas ovens and other brands on this forum. As the saying goes, "they don't take money for demand."

That just Nord is made in my native Donetsk. Like refrigerators and other Nord devices. Although I don't like their technique. I don't have her in my house, no matter how patriot of my city I am. So I thought, maybe we are fellow countrymen.

Yes, we are fellow countrymen, I am also from Ukraine. They bought Nord because my husband was looking for it easier and cheaper. Now, after 5 years, he himself took the initiative to change for the better.

If you have carefully read my messages, then I am interested in reviews of stoves with gas ovens, for example, Gorenya or Hephaestus. Interested in the opinions of users of gas ovens and other brands on this forum. As the saying goes, "they don't take money for demand."

Do not take burning. When I was looking for myself, I met reviews in the Internet that the bottom is on fire, and the top is white - this is the trouble of all Gorenie gas ovens. I decided that I was lucky and bought it. In vain ... I toiled for three years, then I had to buy a baking stone to make it normal. By the way, there is one Gorene oven, which is already included with a similar stone. It's called a pizza stone. + there is also a spatula to throw pizza on this stone. And this stone is clay, I met a comment that a child dropped it (my mother did not keep track). And the stone split in half. And the stone itself, if you take it separately, is expensive. Instead, I have a round clay tray for a large flower pot, cheap, bought in a flower shop. In general, there is a thread on the forum on such stones and what people use instead to improve baking, and they use them in electro, they bake wonderful bread, baked goods, pizzas.

Do not take burning. When I was looking for myself, I met reviews in the Internet that the bottom is on fire, and the top is white - this is the trouble of all Gorenie gas ovens. I decided that I was lucky and bought it. In vain ... three years toiled, then I had to buy a baking stone in order to be normal. By the way, there is one Gorene oven, which is already included with a similar stone. It's called a pizza stone. + there is also a spatula to throw pizza on this stone. And this stone is clay, I met a response that a child dropped it (my mother did not keep track). And the stone split in half. And the stone itself, if you take it separately, is expensive. Instead, I have a round clay tray for a large flower pot, cheap, bought in a flower shop. In general, there is a thread on the forum on such stones and what people use instead of them to improve baking, and they use them in electro, they bake wonderful bread, baked goods, pizzas.

Thanks for the advice! I will definitely consider when choosing. Although in the internet on other sites about stoves and about Hephaestus, and about Gorenie, there are negative reviews. Maybe Ardo look closely?