Choosing a gas stove

Look at the Refrigerator. ru - my daughter buys equipment there. And in general, this store is praised.

My friend swore that her new Belarusian Hephaestus is all great, bakes class. She recently did renovations in the kitchen and this Hephaestus did not fit into the design in any way. She bought a built-in Ariston, now she says that in comparison - heaven and earth, Hephaestus in many ways

Peace be with you bakers!
ShuMakher - - Are the Belarusian plates good?

I have a Hephaestus 60 to 60 with a grill, now I decided to change Hephaestus again.
tokma we put a washing machine in the kitchen and now we will take 50 to 60
with full bells and whistles and a luminescent body 14 thousand leaves
brand store is located on Taganka from the metro 5 minutes towards the skyscraper





and vaasche there slabs from 7 thousand begin

I have a Hotpoint-Ariston insert. I am more than happy. I drew attention to the electric ignition, the presence of a turbo burner, the oven was needed with convection. The design and color were also important.

Girls, I finally completed a full test of my gas oven. As promised, I am writing my impressions, the identified pros and cons.
Many ovens passed through my hands, the names of some I don't even remember, including Brest, Indesit, Idel, Ardo and Bosch (Bosch is still there, he is in the second kitchen, I have a special love for him, from the first baking).
After 6 years of using a gas stove, Ardo never thought that I would buy a gas stove from this manufacturer again. However, I was tempted by the novelty and did not regret it. Pros: the oven bakes beautifully, pies, biscuits, meringues - everything turns out great. And on the stove everything is perfectly cooked and stewed, even the milk, boiling, is in no hurry to escape, since the grates are quite high from the surface of the stove. A kettle, a saucepan with water boil much faster, and to cook an excellent pilaf, you don't have to tweak as before, on a burner with a triple row of flame, wonderful pilaf is obtained without problems.
The degrees on the oven turn-on knob correspond to the set temperature (I checked it with an oven thermometer, I bought it at the warehouse from Lyulёk - it works great). The oven does not go out, as in the previous Ardo, a very loud timer, automatic ignition. The inner glass in the oven can be pulled out and taken out for cleaning, I tried it, everything is done very easily and quickly. The stove stands on adjustable legs.
Cons: only one wire rack and one baking sheet included. In other ovens, the baking sheet is placed on the guides on the walls of the oven, here the baking sheet fits into the grooves on the grate, the plate is wide, as a result of which the grate is strengthened, but the pan is not. Another disadvantage: the cast-iron grilles in the corners have rubber backings, after a while they all come off, you need some kind of special glue to glue them. I hope for my husband when he does this.
The slab is decent, but still, in my opinion today, the same slab 90 cm wide, and not 100 cm wide as mine, would be preferable.

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How many people, so many opinions ... I have Hephaestus, with all the bells and whistles, I bought him back in 2003. There are no complaints about the stove itself, but I am not satisfied with the oven, now, thanks to the fact that I put an inverted ceramic dish (under) down on the wire rack, I was able to bake bread in it, and I bake a biscuit on it. And my dream is Electrolux (gas, electricity). I will have to write to Santa Claus

But an electric oven will not work for me, more I can not make "Peking duck"

But an electric oven will not work for me, more I can not make "Peking duck"

And why? Baking requires an oven and the better it works, the better for the duck

And why? Baking requires an oven and the better it works, the better for the duck

there "live" fire is important

Well, I finally made up my mind. I ordered and already in my apartment there is a brand new Veko CSM 52320 D tile and also Bosch MUM 4655. They took everything out of the boxes, my husband will install the stove, but I don't even know what I will do.

Well, I finally made up my mind. I ordered and already in my apartment there is a brand new Veko CSM 52320 D tile and also Bosch MUM 4655. They took everything out of the boxes, my husband will install the stove, but I don't even know what I will do.

Make sure that the stove is level, strictly horizontal. Otherwise, even a slightly slight skew, and the oil will spread unevenly over the pan. We installed ours, it seemed to be normal by eye and used it for a couple of days without problems. but then it bothered me when I needed to fry pancakes or cutlets. Some are in fat, and some are on fire. Then I forced my husband to take a level (such a garbage with a bubble) and set the stove as it should (there the legs must be adjusted in height).

Our floor was leveled by the level during the repair, so nothing needed to be adjusted.
I was generally kicked out of the kitchen during installation so that my nose would not stick out where it was not necessary

Oh, hurray, they installed, they kicked me out of the kitchen too. Installed with a level (I have it pendite). But the oven is electric. obligatory do you need grounding, or can you already use it?

I do not know ... Our land was made during the wiring and all the sockets were appropriate.

Oh, hurray, they installed, they kicked me out of the kitchen too. I installed it with a level (I have it pendite). But the oven is electric. obligatory do you need grounding, or can you already use it?

And what is written about this in the instructions? Of course it needs to be grounded

I live in Feodosia, on shuttles

, at the time when the shuttles were being built, no one did the grounding. I can advise if you really want to test the oven, the bed under your feet is a rubber mat, while the husband figure out how to ground the stove

And I'm talking about this, but the oven must first be driven out on some program, or you can immediately bake

And I'm talking about this, but the oven must first be driven out on some program, or you can immediately bake

Turn it on to warm up both shades for 10 minutes

We called an electrician when we bought a stove and he made grounding on the shield, separately pulled a wire to the shield from the outlet for the stove. And this despite the fact that we have a gas stove and an oven, but with electric ignition, the electrician said that it is necessary to ground it. But we asked, does the hood need grounding? He said - not necessarily, although later in the instructions I read to the hood - it is written - it is necessary with grounding. True, this is how they write on the iron and everywhere they write. But he definitely said about the stove. By the way, my husband's relatives live in the village, and there one person was electrocuted by a refrigerator that was not grounded. It happened during a thunderstorm, when he wanted to open the refrigerator and take something there. Now I am afraid to open the refrigerator during the rain, it is not grounded here. In general, if the house is not new, then only the bathtub is grounded everywhere, if it is metal, this has been done since Soviet times.

I can not understand. what exactly to include

... and you read the instructions. You have two shadows in your oven (upper and lower) and you have two horizontal sticks drawn. So turn on this mode. Before the first use, to eliminate the smell of the "new" device and the appearance of smoke, from the protective grease for 10 minutes.

[Preliminary cleaning of the brasscabinet]

The instructions for Electrolux are described in detail.

Preliminary cleaning of the brass
cabinet
• Remove all removable parts from the oven.
• Clean the oven before first use.

Preheating
1. Set the "Top + Bottom Heat" function and the maximum temperature.
2. Let the appliance run for about an hour. Do not put food in it.
3. Set the Large Grill function and the maximum temperature.
4. Let the appliance run for about 10 minutes. Do not put food in it.
5. Set the "Pizza" function and the maximum temperature.
6. Let the appliance run for about 10 minutes. Do not put food in it.
This is necessary so that residues in the device are burned out. The accessories may become hotter than usual. When using preheating the appliance for the first time, odors and smoke may appear. This is a common occurrence. Make sure there is sufficient air circulation.

It's good that we bought a stove in the summer, they figured out all the procedures in the yard. The smell was quite noticeable.

They also write this in the instructions for my stove. Sometimes it is very useful to read it. True, I did not feel any smells during ignition.

If the recipe says that you need to preheat the oven, you just need to set the temperature without functions, or something else. Please explain in more detail, I'm very afraid to press too much, I have never had a stove with a temperature display, the instructions are not clear (maybe, of course, only for me), HELP

Preheating the oven means turning on all the functions that are necessary in this recipe and preheating to the required temperature.

I have a small light (indicator light) on the panel when turned on. When the oven reaches the set temperature, it goes out. Means warmed up and you can put.

I read it again and it seemed that Elena was asking a little about something else.

... you just need to set the temperature without functions, or something else.

By simply setting the temperature, the oven will not turn on, it is imperative to turn on the necessary function, then the heating lamp will light up, which will go out when the required temperature is reached.

And what about the instruction? Is nothing written?

The perception of what is written in the manual depends on the technical knowledge of the user.

I hope Elena will come and tell you what really happened there.

Well, my torment with the gas control in my gas oven is over (I have a Gorenie gas oven). In my city, it turns out there is a branded service center Gorenje. I called there and asked if it was possible to somehow turn off the gas control. Answered: Yes, of course, if you like. In general, today their master came, turned it off, adjusted the strength of the flame, otherwise at our minimum it was too big in the oven and on the burners from above also adjusted it as we need it. So, this is happiness! True, I will not say that it turned out to be cheap. Paid UAH 260, of which 60 was the departure of the master, and 200 was the repair. Although, as for me, a few tightened nuts and 10 minutes of work is a bit too much. Well, you can do it. Brand service, in a word. But he showed us where to tweak there, if we ourselves want to make the minimum flame quieter or stronger. And on the gas control, there is a spring removed and a gasket - he left it removed inside the stove, if we want, we can put it back on ourselves. But I think this is unlikely. So the bread is already being broken up, I will bake it in a renewed oven today!

Congratulations!
I hope that the bread will be tastier now!
We are waiting, sir!

Well, with the heat, with the heat, wheat-rye (half wheat and rye flour, 200 g each) and only 3 g. pressed yeast.

Well, it's true, this is not the merit of a stove without gas control, it's just that I, as a hostess, are in a better mood because I don't have to hold this hated button for two minutes to light the oven and all this time breathe gas over the half-open oven. By the way, when I bought this stove three years ago, there were exactly the same Gorenie stoves, but without gas control of the oven, and in Soviet times it was not at all.And this master, who came now, said that now there is no gas control, Such are the types of safety requirements in the European Union. Really, what? So now I need to groom and cherish my own, so as not to break. I already bought a baking stone for her, even two. And then the bottom always burned. Now everything is excellent. There was no thermometer in it. I bought a thermometer. In general, now it is closer to my image of the ideal oven at last. Thanks to everyone who advised to remove the gas control, I myself would not have finished thinking and did not look for someone to remove it.
By the way, in a conversation with the master, I asked what it means to "counterpunch", he said that he did not know

Well, yes, what the master did with gas control is that word!

Well, yes, what the master did with gas control is that word!

By the way, he took off some spring and gasket there, and left it removed there - in case we want to return the gas control to its place. I thought so: aha, how, not for any price!

How good, Tanya, that the stove has been repaired, or rather improved. Or vice versa ... I'm confused. In short, it's good that you are happy with her now

I think gas control is a very useful thing!
Of course it should work properly.

How good, Tanya, that the stove has been repaired, or rather improved. Or vice versa ... I'm confused. In short, it's good that you are happy with her now

Quite the contrary, but I am very happy. With what joy I turned it on for bread today - zip and that's it. Of course, time will pass and I will get used to it and will take it for granted, but now it's a thrill! I thought: how, in principle, little is needed to make a person, if not happy, then at least with joy in his soul, when everything sings and wants to live and create, sheer optimism, in general.

This is, of course, our way! The service center specialist, at the request of the client, BREAKS the device for money, instead of setting it up correctly. Gas control is a wonderful thing, only if it works correctly, it should `` grab '' in 5-10 seconds. Can you imagine a hostess somewhere in Europe breathing gas for two minutes?

This is, of course, our way! The service center specialist, at the request of the client, breaks the device for money, instead of setting it up correctly. Gas control is a wonderful thing, only if it works correctly, it should `` grasp '' in 5-10 seconds. Can you imagine a hostess somewhere in Europe breathing gas for two minutes?

Maybe 5-10 seconds would not work. He said that our gas pressure in the pipe is significantly different from European standards, I don't remember in which direction. Moreover, I have a thick baking stone there, it traps heat, so while this gas control at the top heats up, I have to keep it for a long time. Without a stone and in the summer heat, there was much less time for ignition. But without a stone, the bottom burned constantly, and the top was white. So without a stone - not life, so in the summer I bought it.

Something is wrong!
The gas control sensor is located directly next to the burner. Should be heated immediately.
It's all about the sensor.

Something is wrong!
The gas control sensor is located directly next to the burner. Should be heated immediately.
It's all about the sensor.

No, in my stove he stood on top. Masterr had to remove the top panel where the burners were. Inside there were a bunch of different wires from all the handles - this is for electric ignition, and where the oven handle was, there was also this garbage. I myself was surprised when he began to unscrew from above. I say - I don't have this control on the burners, I need to remove the oven. And he: that's right, he's here too. Maybe this is only so in Gorenyi. In any case, I cannot say that the master did not understand what he was turning off, because now the oven turns on from the first poke, it means that he turned off what was needed.

Ugums. My grandmother had a gas boiler with automatic equipment, called AOGV-120. It was also necessary to press the pipka and wait a long time. Figs will light up and go out spontaneously.A specialist from Gorgaz wrapped this pipette with a rag with the words "we have half the city working with rags." And this rag took place for several years. Although, as for me, it was a time bomb. And then these Gorgaz people do not know why houses are blown up into the air. But I somehow accidentally told my colleague about this rag. And he previously served these boilers. After a couple of strong words addressed to "the specialist and half the city on rags", he told me that you just need to fulfill a few simple conditions, and the automation will work like a clock. 1) The thermocouple must be strictly in the ignition flame. For her there is a special hole provided and a separate tongue of flame should "lick" only her. By the way, the loading of the oven, a baking stone or its absence should not affect the operation of the automation in any way. 2) All contacts must be in perfect condition. The voltage produced by the thermocouple is scanty, but the current is high. Therefore, any bad or oxidized contact will result in the system not working or holding the button longer. 3) The electromagnet itself is in the button. The surfaces that are attracted in it should be perfectly lapped to each other. If something has got there or there is at least a little rust, then it does not have enough strength to "stick".
On the same day, I rushed to the granny with an instrument, I did everything in just half an hour. There really was a complete set, the thermocouple was sticking out to the side, the contacts were oxidized and rust on the magnet. And for many years now, no rags, the automation works like a clock.
Moreover, about the "abnormal gas pressure", there are replaceable nozzles for ANY gas pressure. At least increased, at least decreased.

Fuh, however, I now basically do not understand gas ovens at all. The only case is weak electrical wiring in an old house.

The thermocouple must be strictly in the pilot flame. For her there is a special hole provided and a separate tongue of flame should "lick" only her. By the way, the loading of the oven, a baking stone or its absence should not affect the operation of the automation in any way.

I just thought that since I have this gas control - not near the oven burner, but on top of the handle, and the tongue of the flame cannot lick it, then maybe it was warming itself with electricity somehow. When you hold down the button, the electric ignition continues to click. Perhaps a certain amount of sparking is enough to trigger the gas control? Therefore, now it is longer than in summer, because it is very cold in the apartment, more clicks are needed to warm it up to the desired condition, and in summer it is hot. And then the oven stone really does not affect anything.

My gas control works differently, since only the burners on the stove are electrically ignited. And in the oven, you just need to light the burner and hold down the knob (the gas burns, but does not come out). If you release the handle immediately, it goes out, but the gas also does not come out. And you need to set fire again.

Above there is some kind of control device, and the temperature sensor itself (thermocouple), 100% stands in the immediate vicinity of the burner.
The gasman "neutralized" the very same control device.

I wouldn't leave it like this forever.
If possible, it is better to figure out what the matter is and reanimate if it works normally.

[Jeffrey]

This is, of course, our way! The service center specialist, at the request of the client, BREAKS the device for money, instead of adjusting it correctly.

Hmmm, only here this is possible!
Jeffrey, judging by your detailed "instructions" for this thermocouple - tell me - it is generally real most repair so that she does not me otters ... wondered?
Otherwise, when I ignite it, I already have a desire to throw it away with something heavy
While I am silent, my husband himself does not use the stove (this is not a royal business), so I don’t know yet, but I really want to attract him (should I bother or call Gorgaz?). ...
It is, of course, a convenient thing and safe, but this arson ...

In all my past stoves, there was no gas control at all, and even now such stoves are sold with might and main.
So I don't see anything wrong with turning it off.

In all my past stoves, there was no gas control at all, and even now such stoves are sold with might and main.
So I don't see anything wrong with turning it off.

Here I am about the same. Moreover, I never turn on the minimum fire, there is no crazy wind in the apartment to blow out the flame, I don't leave the house if the stove is working.
Plus, I have a wonderful gas control in my nose!

So I am about it! There has never been a case that something went out (God forbid).
People have been using such stoves for centuries. Of course, maintenance of the plates must be carried out regularly and in a timely manner. But this does not cancel the gas control.

[Jeffrey]

Hmmm, only here this is possible!
Jeffrey, judging by your detailed "instructions" for this thermocouple - tell me - it is generally real most repair so that she does not me otters ... wondered?
Otherwise, when I ignite it, I already have a desire to throw it away with something heavy
While I am silent, my husband himself does not use the stove (this is not a royal business), so I don’t know yet, but I really want to attract him (should I bother or call Gorgaz?). ...
It is, of course, a convenient thing and safe, but this arson ...

Well, in any case, I do not advise a person to climb there without the appropriate qualifications. Gas is cooler than electricity. "But nothing is impossible for a person with intelligence." It is possible to voice the model of the stove, what if there is service documentation for it?

God grant that no one has problems with gas!

But here's a completely standard example from life:

The neighbor needed to change the gas supply in the kitchen.
He decided to follow the legal official path. I ordered a project.
With all the approvals, everything took about 2 months and something about 15,000 rubles. Before the start
work, it was necessary to warn all neighbors on the entrance about the gas cutoff.
Two apartments could not be reached for a week. Having decided that no one lives there, we set to work.
Everything ended well, but the thought did not leave, but what if someone lived there?
And the gas control in the nose is clogged with a runny nose, and in the oven it is not at all, someone decided to rest while something is being prepared in the oven.

When I needed to shorten the gas pipe, I took a more radical path, but that's a different story.

I think that gas control is a must!