sparta
Yes, Ver, almost here ... Or rather, I went to the site, to the contact questions section, it seems (the site is not opening now). I haven't received an answer yet ...

During the campaign I launched ... the device is, in fact, cool ... I probably have some kind of sensor defective - an isolated case ...
A person comes in, reads the topic ... and changes his mind about buying this cool cartoon.
Arnica
Quote: ledi

I have dex 60, but they have risen in price, in the Dex Line online store they are not at all. And my girlfriend also wants to buy a cartoon, I advised her to take Dex65 and another ice cream maker is a gift. And now I'm already worried
And we gave the 65th with a juicer. Will I need to call and ask the hostess how it works? Suddenly, too, mows? at the end of November there was no information that the programs were working poorly.
Alisa-Topol
Well, yes, I ran out of fright and cooked buckwheat, although I didn't need it today. But I checked the mode - 1mulch of buckwheat + 3multicaps of water + a pinch of salt. 13 minutes passed from start to finish, it was boiling violently, it turned into heating. But the water still remained and the buckwheat (for my taste) was damp.

I switched on the program for the second time, 8 minutes were immediately displayed, and indeed, the water boiled away, buckwheat was cooked. But it raged very actively, like a couple! Is it supposed to boil like that?
ledi
I didn’t notice this in Dex 60, I don’t seem to be too keen and look in when cooking. But the porridge is prepared the first time. There, and when steamed, it does not steam much. Girls, do you have a recipe book ?, a girlfriend asks
sparta
Oops! I also settled my doubts with experienced multicooker !!!
In the course of the play, there really is a glitch with 2 programs - buckwheat and rice, and if you associate them with a delayed start. Now I put the milk porridge for 30 minutes on the delayed start at exactly 19-00. It's too early to say, but the milk turned on exactly ... just now, there was a deafening piiik, at 18-30 it took off the timer and began to cook the pot ...
Today I baked mustard bread ... uuh, almost like in the oven ..., it rose - excellent, the shape is wonderful ... nothing even burnt anywhere ...
Yes. I got the recipe book. Only she was in the ice cream maker.
Alisa-Topol
Yes, there is a recipe book, so colorful, but there is no buckwheat in it
sparta
Buckwheat manual in the user manual ...
And the recipe book is on the site and the user's manual too ... It's more convenient for me to look there in electronic form, it's better to slap a netbook keyboard. than accidentally wrinkle a book
If anyone needs instructions and a recipe book, here
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irysska
Girls, I am plagued by vague doubts about these very gifts - a juicer, an ice cream maker Where is the attraction of unprecedented generosity? Isn't it because Dex 65 has problems with Rice and Buckwheat God forbid that I was wrong

And I don’t remember that they showered the Dex 50 and Dex 60 with gifts, or I have a
ledi
Ira, I agree 100%! And the most interesting thing on Dex 60: girl_mad: prices went up right away: girl_sad: There are none at all in the dexline online store. I bought myself on October 21 and they had an additional saucepan that was 185 grams, and today I received a message from this store offering to buy a saucepan for 209 grams. So that the price of the saucepan also went up. I have already dissuaded my girlfriend from buying the 65th model.
Eva3
A blender comes as a gift to Dex 55.
Well, before I write, I spit over my left shoulder and knock on wood. I have already cooked rice 3 times on the program and a couple of times on buckwheat, I just didn’t time it, but it took at least 20-30 minutes (depending on the amount of cereal and water), only today I know for sure that at the delayed start (1 scoop of oatmeal and 3 measure of water on the rice program) the program started at 6.30 and at 7, as ordered, the porridge was ready. There is, of course, seething, but what would be too strong, then no, although all this is remembered in passing, since I did not pay attention on purpose. Next time I'll take a closer look. Olga has the impression in the cartoon that the temperature is incorrectly set on these sensor programs, so there is a strong boil and the water boils very quickly.
As for the gifts, I do not think that it would be connected with the beds, especially if the equipment is exchange. What is the point of a manufacturer losing his reputation if all multicooker (or most) will start returning.
The risk of not getting a replacement seems to me exactly the same as the risk of not receiving the goods at all (I certainly do not know who how, but I usually pay money right away, the toad presses me to pay at New Mail when receiving the goods, extra 30-35 UAH for shipment money). The store is still not small and not new, it is not in their interests to spoil their reputation, because if a person does not receive a replacement, of course they will not be silent. But in any case, Olga, it's up to you whether to send for exchange or continue to use it further. The choice is certainly not a pleasant one, I don't even want to think about how she herself would have acted in such a situation.
Eva3
Oh, I looked at the saucepan for the 65th Dksu, 205 UAH. And 2 weeks ago, when I bought a multicooker, it was also cheaper, roofing felts 185, or 189 UAH. And the inner cover, I'm not sure exactly, but it seems 85 was, and now 89
ledi
in October, the inner lid cost 85gr to 60m. Really decided to raise prices to NG?
Eva3
Expenses per share need to be beaten back somehow
Now I will start to find fault with my multicooker, on the Steam program, according to the instructions, the countdown time starts from the moment the water boils. My countdown starts right away. Of course, I don't think this is such a jamb and I don't see anything wrong with that, if everything else works well, well, it just became interesting. How about in the 60s?
irysska
Yes, in Dex 60 the countdown in Steam mode from the moment of boiling
sparta
Lovers of milk! Do you know what you noticed in your 65th? On the program, the default milk porridge is 50 minutes, in this mode, even with the lid open, the milk boils quite strongly, naturally, with a large volume it can boil over and escape.
If I expose the milk for 30 minutes, then exactly those modes described in the instructions are observed ... 98 degrees, then 60. That is, the porridge languishes for 30 minutes, the milk does not even rise, it is cooked slowly ...
In general, if you are afraid that the milk may run away, put the milk on for 30 minutes.
shl. Tips are not for everyone, but only for abnormal dex, but normal ones can try, but what if it works out?
Arnica
And in my 60th it was like this: a little porridge - runs away, half a pan or more - does not run away.
sparta
Ol, and what is the boiling intensity?
Wow, it also depends on the volume ...
I don’t understand why on the 1st program, depending on the set time, the cooking temperature changes ...
And today I'm with a banana pie ... or rather, with its leftovers ...
Before I could look back, the pie had practically disappeared. Yes, I haven't baked pies for a long time, all the buns, buns ...
I say right away ... I don't really like bananas, I can't stand fried bananas, but in baked goods it's quite tasty, with a slight banana aroma, I liked it myself ...

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Arnica
Quote: sparta

Ol, and what is the boiling intensity?
Wow, it also depends on the volume ...
When it boils, it boils a little, and then the temperature decreases and imperceptibly especially.
And it also depends on the volume (milk).
What is your first program?
Eva3
Olya, a beautiful pie.
So the girls, today cooked buckwheat right away (earlier only in the morning, at a delayed start), I didn’t know the time for sure, but probably cooked for 12-13 minutes, there was a little water left, I tried to turn on Rice, the squares ran, but the program did not turn on, it stood on heating , everything came to pass. So Olya, perhaps the program did not start due to the fact that there was not enough water. I looked at the instructions, the temperature on the program Buckwheat is 110 degrees, Rice is 105. So at this temperature it will not boil weakly. Perhaps this is in Dex 65 so the program is configured, not a glitch. It will be necessary to pay attention to how long the cartoon will "serve" buckwheat during the delayed start.
In general, I did not immediately pay attention, and I was happy with everything, now I start to look closely
But all the same, my cartoon is the best, and I love her.
sparta
Quote: Olyushka

What is your first program?
In the sense of?
Eva3, no, don't look closely ... Everything is good with you with dex ...
Even I don't look closely at mine anymore.Today I “played” with buckwheat and rice ... soon my children won't want to look at these porridges ...
Not the first time the program turned on. But now I know 100%, when it turns on, how some sensor is triggered, the click goes ... In short, I found an approach to these two functions ... Now I'm happy ...
Lozja
Girls, I don’t want to upset you, but on sensory programs like Rice, Buckwheat there should be no "water left". This can only happen if you give a completely incorrect water-to-grain ratio, for example, twice as much water as it should be. If the ratio is correct, the program runs until all the liquid has boiled out, and only then it turns off. And nothing else. Actually, this is a jamb - buckwheat will not be cooked in 12 minutes if it is a slow cooker, not a pressure cooker, and cooking without pressure. It turns out that your program turns off ahead of time.
I understand more and more why Dax 60 had such popularity for 2 years - in it all programs work as expected, there is not a single jamb. It would be a shame if he was removed from the market. Although, before that I thought that 65 would rightfully replace him. Now I have sooo big doubts about this.
Apparently, this model has already been assembled at another plant, and the developers are different. Very sorry.
I perfectly understand your feelings, when the cartoon is alone, already loved, then you begin to forgive her for her jambs. Perhaps, if many people return this model to Dax under warranty, indicating these stocks, they will simply modify this model. Or they will remove it and release something better. In the meantime, the big sadness with this model.
Arnica
I wonder if this is how sensory programs work for all 65s or in the last games?
sparta
Oksan, thank you. I thought it was necessary ...
All according to the instructions, the ratio of cereal-water ... 10 minutes - the buckwheat type was cooked. The water did not boil away, although in 10 minutes the steam poured hoo! The water remained. The program went into heating. For 20 minutes of heating, the water evaporated, and buckwheat became normal.
My family already hates buckwheat. And I'm doing experiments ...
Once again I put it on a delayed start ... The program started working again half an hour before the appointed time. It was cooked in 10 minutes, the water remained ...
I thought maybe this is how it should be ... 30 minutes are allotted for buckwheat, 10 of them are vigorous boiling, 20 are getting to the condition on heating. Is this, in your opinion, a serious glitch?
... I have the first cartoon, I don't know how it should ideally work. You wrote correctly, you have to put up with the shortcomings. Then you adjust to them. Then you just don't notice ...
And in the 60th dex, how many minutes is buckwheat cooked? Doesn't steam come down during operation?
And pilaf. How does this program work for you?
Look, I put "frying", fry meat, carrots.
I fall asleep rice, pour hot water, then function "rice". It does not turn on (does not work, does not click the sensor) until the pancake cools down (this is what I think, frying at 180, rice at 100).
In the 60th is it wrong? Does everything turn on right away?
Lozja
Yes, the jester knows him, maybe it was conceived that it reaches another 20 minutes on heating, but after having sold many different multicooker in two years and having read many topics about different models, this is the first time I hear about such a program algorithm. Maybe this is know-how?
And that the program does not start after Frying, then, in principle, it usually happens with Quenching. So that Rice or Plov does not start up until the teng cools down a bit - I also did not hear it.
That is, it turns out that the problem is not in the Start button, but precisely in the fact that the program does not want to start because the ten is hot? Well, that's okay, I thought the button was generally a jamb. Simply, in this case, the multi needs some kind of signal about the start of the program, but you don't have it, did I understand correctly? Well, to know if the program has turned on or not.
Alisa-Topol
Well, my "rice" starts after "frying"! First I fried the meat, then I added the frozen zirvak, thawed it out, added the rice, added water and started the program! All! Everything is working!
But "Buckwheat" worked exactly 12-14 minutes. When the same program was turned on again, "buckwheat" - it worked for 8 minutes, the time started immediately.
For myself, I made a conclusion - do not include "buckwheat", but everything else works fine!
marianna55555
Girls, for a few days I have this slow cooker. I bought it in the Fotos store. After reading your reviews, I decided to try to cook buckwheat (for 1 m / in a glass of buckwheat 2 m / in a glass of water, that is, the ratio is one to two). It boiled for exactly 12 minutes, boiled violently, steam poured out of the valve with terrible force. At the end, I opened it, and there was semi-cooked buckwheat and water. After standing for half an hour on the heating, she arrived.
I also have a small Panaconic - 10. It cooks the same amount of buckwheat for about an hour. It turns out very tasty.
Think for yourself, well, buckwheat cannot cook in 12 minutes. You can try to soak in a cartoon for the morning, with a delay of eight hours. As a rule, water is completely absorbed, and it is possible in this version it will be ready in 12 minutes. This is so, thinking out loud.
sparta
No. The program starts up. There is a signal (loud PEAK), it looks like it works, in fact it doesn't.
It only helps to reset the program and install it again, or hold it for some time ... then it turns on again.
I was also surprised at the extinguishing. She stewed meat, set the program for 2 hours. An hour later I threw in a lot of potatoes. And that's all ... The potatoes are cold, everything is mixed, everything has become lukewarm. And that's all ... The remaining hour froze in place - all my cooking did not heat up, as in the instructions, to 100 degrees.
CONCLUSION- temperature drops (water, liquid, food) are destructive for some programs. That is, if the food reaches 100 degrees during stewing, it is impossible to lower the temperature with cold food.
Tell me that there are no such problems in the 60th dex?
Where did the owners of the 65s go? What about you?
sparta
marianna55555, maybe, indeed, know-how, as suggested by Oksana.
Delicious and healthy food?
Buckwheat, in the right way, is poured with boiling water and into a thermos overnight. Or the pan is wrapped with a blanket - that's when it is terribly useful.
And here, too, it boils for 10-12 minutes, then it comes to a condition on heating.
But why is nothing written about this in the instructions?
marianna55555

Even if buckwheat is poured with cold water, it will be practically without water in the morning. I've done this more than once. Boil a little in the morning and that's it.
Lozja
Quote: sparta

No. The program starts up. There is a signal (loud PEAK), it looks like it works, in fact it doesn't.
It only helps to reset the program and install it again, or hold it for some time ... then it turns on again.
I was also surprised at the extinguishing. She stewed meat, set the program for 2 hours. An hour later I threw in a lot of potatoes. And that's all ... The potatoes are cold, everything is mixed, everything has become lukewarm. And that's it ... The remaining hour froze in place - all my cooking did not heat up, as in the instructions, to 100 degrees.
CONCLUSION - temperature drops (water, liquid, food) are destructive for some programs. That is, if the food reaches 100 degrees during stewing, it is impossible to lower the temperature with cold food.
Tell me that there are no such problems in the 60th dex?
Where did the owners of the 65s go? What about you?

It's sad. These are all jambs of programs. It shouldn't be like that. There is nothing like that in the 60s. In my 50-ke, if the program does not want to work, because it is too hot, then it simply turns off with a signal, as expected, and you immediately know that the program refused to work. But this is extremely rare.
In general, there are enough jambs. It's a shame for the Dax firm, it is clear that this model was made at some other plant than 50 and 60, or it was created by other Chinese. Or Dax himself missed by buying a mowing model from the Chinese.
It also seemed strange to me that a non-penny product is given as a gift, just to promote this model. And this at a time when Dax had already healed his 60s fame. Yes, with a good new model, he would not need any shares. After all, 60 just flew out of warehouses, and without any promotions and gifts.
mms
Quote: sparta

And pilaf. How does this program work for you?
Look, I put "frying", fry meat, carrots.
I fall asleep rice, pour hot water, then function "rice". It does not turn on (does not work, does not click the sensor) until the pancake cools down (I think so, frying at 180, rice at 100).
In the 60th is it wrong? Does everything turn on right away?
Look, my sister has the same thing (she bought the cartoon on my advice). I don’t know I have not cooked pilaf yet, but I cooked rice on the timer, so he was undercooked, I thought that I poured little water 1: 2, here I see the girls are doing this, I don’t know now what the ratio of water: cereal is correct.
Alisa-Topol
sparta
I cooked a roast. I will describe it step by step.
1. "Frying" - I fry the meat. It fries itself, I peel the onion and cut it.
2. "frying" - stir the meat to almost perfect frying, add onion, fry until the onion is ready, stirring more often. At the same time I peel potatoes, cut them. If the onion is not fried, but the program is over, I re-set the "frying". Habit from Panasik. There frying works for 20 minutes on the machine.
3. I put potatoes in the cartoon, add water, put salt, spices ... I turn off the "frying" program with the "cancel" button. I turn on the "extinguishing" program.
4. On a signal, I check for readiness ....
I kept it on heating for 20 minutes - I was waiting for my husband ...
Everything is fine, tasty and not troublesome.
Lozja
Quote: mms

Look, my sister has the same thing (she bought the cartoon on my advice). I don’t know I have not cooked pilaf yet, but I cooked rice on the timer, so he was undercooked, I thought that I poured little water 1: 2, here I see the girls are doing this, I don’t know now what the ratio of water: cereal is correct.
It is right. Some people like water less, this is a matter of taste, who loves it harder, who loves it softer. But at 1 to 2, no water should remain and the rice should cook normally. If the program works correctly.
Arnica
I didn't notice exactly, but in the 60th programs Rice and Buckwheat work for 40 minutes. For 8 minutes. the time counts down until the end of the program.
Previously, I also did not look closely at the programs, everything always turns on, only from the owners of the 65th I learned this. The only thing, mmm, that in my Dex-60 is on the screen the names of the programs that are written in the left corner disappear from overheating: rice, steam, and especially baked goods. When it cools down, inscriptions appear gradually. Already used to it.
And in 65 there was something completely incomprehensible.
mms
Quote: Lozja

It is right. Some people like water less, this is a matter of taste, who loves it harder, who loves it softer. But at 1 to 2, no water should remain and the rice should cook normally. If the program works correctly.
I didn't have water left, even at the bottom the rice changed a little color, as it were, but raw And from frying to stewing everything works well for me, I made potatoes with meat and mushrooms mmmm yummy
irysska
Quote: sparta

marianna55555, maybe, indeed, know-how, as suggested by Oksana.
Delicious and healthy food?
Buckwheat, in the right way, is poured with boiling water and into a thermos overnight. Or the pan is wrapped with a blanket - that's when it is terribly useful.
And here, too, it boils for 10-12 minutes, then it comes to a condition on heating.
But why is nothing written about this in the instructions?
that's right, if it was know-how, it would have written on the box, for example, "Innovative mode Useful porridge" or something else
Alisa-Topol
Quote: Olyushka

I didn't notice exactly, but in the 60th programs Rice and Buckwheat work for 40 minutes. For 8 minutes. the time counts down until the end of the program.
Previously, I also did not look closely at the programs, everything always turns on, only from the owners of the 65th I learned this. The only thing, mmm, that in my Dex-60 is on the screen the names of the programs that are written in the left corner disappear from overheating: rice, steam, and especially baked goods. When it cools down, inscriptions appear gradually. Already used to it.
And in 65 there was something completely incomprehensible.

Well, I'm telling you that I don't have this with rice! I have 65 !!!!
And there was no overheating yet, TTT! And no letters disappear, "rice" works perfectly, as in Panas. "Frying" is better than in Panas - due to the higher temperature. Stewing is a little stronger than in Panas, but it is quite soft, without much boiling. I measured the temperature with fright - everything was normal, as in the instructions. Yes, "Buckwheat" behaves incomprehensibly. Indeed, if you wait 20 minutes after the end of the program (on heating), everything will be finished and it will be fine too.
Eva3
Girls, owners of 60s, look at the instructions, what temperature is indicated on the programs Rice and Buckwheat. Because if you think logically, at temperatures of 105 and 110, like the 65th, it will definitely not boil slowly, at such temperatures it is quite logical that the program turns off after 12-15 minutes. I have my first slow cooker, so it's hard for me to judge how it is right, I thought it was right. Well, maybe the temperature of these programs really increased in the 65th and this is such a jamb, or so it was conceived
Today I cooked pilaf, or rather my daughter, and I was next to me in the kitchen, supervising the process, so to speak, after I had fried everything, poured rice and poured water, but I had not turned off the Frying program yet, everything began to boil violently. Turned off the Fry, turned on Rice, the program turned on normally. I didn't know the time, but the pilaf was being prepared for 20-25 minutes, then for another 20 minutes or half an hour it stood on the heating (was there any water left there?
Lasunya
in the instructions for 60: rice-35-40 minutes, up to 105 degrees, buckwheat - 40-50 minutes, up to 110 degrees
Lozja
Quote: Eva3

Because if you think logically, at temperatures of 105 and 110, like the 65th, it will definitely not boil slowly, at such temperatures it is quite logical that the program turns off after 12-15 minutes.
Why is it logical? The sensor program usually works like this - the sensor reacts to the fact that there is no liquid in the saucepan and nothing is boiling or evaporating intensively, and the program ends. What does the sensor react to in your model? It's completely incomprehensible to me. It turns out that these programs are simply not touch-sensitive, they are simply programmed so that in any case the program will turn off after 10-12 minutes.
And I would not say that it is logical to cook buckwheat on a boiling boil for 12 minutes in total. And the time to boil? It turns out that it just boiled violently, and has already turned off? Maybe, indeed, they changed the very idea of ​​the program, and it was conceived so that it should reach on Heating. But this must be indicated somewhere in the instructions, otherwise an experienced multicooker will think that the program is simple. And a beginner will see half-baked buckwheat and will be disappointed in a multicooker as in a device, if he is not explained what is intended.
In my cartoon there is a Rice program, and there is Rice Express. Here is the first one designed for a large amount and about 50-60 minutes of work. And Express - for a glass or two of cereals. And it boils harder on it and it works for 25-30 minutes, but also until it boils completely. But not 12!
Arnica
Everyone writes that after 12 minutes it goes into heating and it takes 20 minutes on heating. And then what turns itself off or needs to be turned off? Heating usually takes a very long time.
Alisa-Topol
Quote: Eva3

I didn't know the time, but the pilaf was being prepared for 20-25 minutes, then for another 20 minutes or half an hour it stood on the heating (was there any water left there, something didn't look in), but in the end the pilaf turned out to be excellent.
I cooked pilaf for 36 minutes, I spotted it. There is no water left. The pilaf is wonderful.
I have 65.
And "Buckwheat" is a joint ...
sparta
Quote: Olyushka

Everyone writes that after 12 minutes it goes into heating and it takes 20 minutes on heating. And then what turns itself off or needs to be turned off? Heating usually takes a very long time.
I am writing this ... Because at the delayed start it turns on 30 minutes before the appointed time, it works for 10-12 minutes. But exactly how long it takes for the water to disappear on heating, it didn’t detect it - in 20 minutes, for sure ... maybe earlier ... in general, I didn’t set out to trace the time.
No, it costs a very long time on heating (a wonderful thing, I must say) ...
For me, too, the "pilaf" program turns off when there is no water left (pilaf is excellent!), It takes a long time to cook (definitely not 12 minutes).
Indeed, a joint with buckwheat!
Lozja
Quote: sparta

I am writing this ... Because at the delayed start it turns on 30 minutes before the appointed time, it works for 10-12 minutes. But exactly how long it takes for the water to disappear on heating, it didn’t detect it - in 20 minutes, for sure ... maybe earlier ... in general, I didn’t set out to trace the time.
No, it costs a very long time on heating (a wonderful thing, I must say) ...
For me, the "pilaf" program is also turned off when there is no water left (pilaf is excellent!), It takes a long time to cook (definitely not 12 minutes).
Indeed, a joint with buckwheat!
In this case, boil all the cereals on Plov.
Lozja
Quote: sparta

And this is an idea !!! You need to try to cook buckwheat there ...
This idea is due to the fact that in most multicooker there is no division at all into Rice and Buckwheat, there is just a sensory program until boiling, and all cereals are boiled on it. It can be called in different ways - Rice, Pilaf, Krupa ...
yara
I have 60, and rice and buckwheat work great, but I like to cook porridge with milk more (I don't like dry ones). Maybe you can try it on milk, do you have a milk program?
And to DEX (this reminded me of the situation how the owners of a similar Philips model were happy at first, and then the jambs went). But you are all great for talking not only about the advantages of your multicooker, but also about its disadvantages !!!!
megotigra
please ... help

I don’t understand at all what to do when baking?

for example everything is ready ... the saucepan is greased .. pouring out the mass ... what to do next with the lid? close it? open? valves ???

can not understand((
Nataly
Just close the lid, do not touch the valve, put it on the lock (there is no sense from it), set the time and turn on the program.
Lozja
Again, people get confused with valves. So they had to draw this lock in all models.
I explain to everyone:

You don't need to touch the valve in the multicooker at all! The lock is drawn only so that you can see where to move the valve in order to disassemble and wash it. And that's all. When preparing food, the valve must be closed with a lock, so it is simply fixed in the lid and will not fall out.
Lozja
Quote: megotigra

Thanks for the quick response.
That is, I can confidently close and open when finished? ...

I just never used a multicooker ... I have a little fear of ruining it ..

You can close and even have to not open it at all during baking until the end of the program, this is baking, you cannot disturb it in the process, otherwise it will fall.

For all programs, cook with the lid closed.
At all, except for baking, you can look inside in the process, but this is not always necessary to do this.
But on Frying it is better not to close the lid and stir the food in a saucepan sometimes, all the same, frying is frying, like in a frying pan.

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