Dishwasher selection (2)

Help me please! Today, for the first time, the Siemens machine was started, salt, rinse aid and detergent powder were loaded according to the instructions ... But, after the end of the washing cycle, the dishes were opaque with a bloom, and a lot of water remained in the pan, almost to the brim. Why? What is the reason?

Help me please! Today, for the first time, the Siemens machine was started, salt, rinse aid and detergent powder were loaded according to the instructions ... But, after the end of the washing cycle, the dishes were opaque with a bloom, and a lot of water remained in the pan, almost to the brim. Why? What is the reason?

The reason is that the washing process in a typewriter can be compared to baking bread in a bread maker ... There are nuances that should be taught at school in labor lessons.

I'll start by answering the second question. Most likely, the washing cycle was not over, the drying was still in progress. It is with her that cold water should be in the pan. It should only merge before the real end of the program. In the event that the indicators really went out and the machine signaled the end, and the water is standing, this is a malfunction. Water may remain in the filter, but no more than a glass.
Deposits and non-transparent dishes ... If there is indelible deposits on the glassware, a program that is too hot and a highly active detergent plus glass of poor quality is selected. But this is probably a rare case. My any glass on any program, without bothering, but this is written in the instructions. The most likely case is a wash-off plaque. This is the incorrectly set salt level. Or at zero, which is most likely, or too much of it. Find out somehow the hardness of the water in your water supply and adjust the machine.

Jefry, and I remember that on the fly on the glass I adjusted the dosage (scale) of the rinse aid supply, until I achieved the result that I liked, and I played it, then I will add it to "+", then to "-" I will take it away. And at the expense of salt, I immediately set a value relative to the hardness of our water and did not play anymore ...

The reason is that the washing process in a typewriter can be compared to baking bread in a bread maker ... There are nuances that should be taught at school in labor lessons.

I'll start by answering the second question. Most likely, the washing cycle was not over, the drying was still in progress. It is with her that cold water should be in the pan. It should only merge before the real end of the program. In the event that the indicators really went out and the machine signaled the end, and the water is standing, this is a malfunction. Water may remain in the filter, but no more than a glass.
Deposits and non-transparent dishes ... If there is indelible deposits on the glassware, a program that is too hot and a highly active detergent plus glass of poor quality is selected. But this is probably a rare case. My any glass on any program, without bothering, but this is written in the instructions. The most likely case is a wash-off plaque. This is the incorrectly set salt level. Or at zero, which is most likely, or too much of it. Find out somehow the hardness of the water in your water supply and adjust the machine.

Thank you for your prompt reply!
We sorted out the water in the pan, it turned out that the hole at the drain in the siphon partially blocked the valve that came with the drain, they took it apart, took it out and everything worked as it should! For some reason, I immediately thought that it was not the car, well, a priori, such an expensive car of a purely German assembly cannot mow so brazenly (although there is a hole in the old woman) ...
As for plaque, I will experiment with the supply of rinse aid and salt, there is something to wash and wash, so I think we are only dreaming of peace!
And another question: I bought salt, rinse aid and Somat detergent powder, after the wash cycle the car smelled obsessively of detergent, although I poured only 15 grams, should it be?

[Jaroslava 333]

Jaroslava 333 Do not worry, over time in PMM, it will smell no longer of powder but sour, this is of course if you "start" the car rarely wash the filter and do not use a cleaner for PMM, and even "saving" on the powder does not lead to anything good either

[Jaroslava 333]

Jaroslava 333 Do not worry, over time in PMM, it will smell no longer of powder but sour, this is of course if you "start" the car rarely wash the filter and do not use a cleaner for PMM, and even "saving" on the powder does not lead to anything good either

Thank you very much for your support!
Rarely it will not work (I have 3 children), there are always plenty of dishes, so I bought a PMM to spend more time with the children - "I am a woman, not a dishwasher!", As in advertising, it is corny, but true! : yes: I think I'll figure it out with time ...
Thank you very much to everyone who unsubscribed in this post, it helped me a lot both when choosing a PM, and I have an idea about operation, although there are still a lot of questions, but by trial and error, I think I will achieve a result!

Comrades, help, the salt indicator lit up, how to add it? I turned off the lid and water poured out, is this normal?

It's okay.
Add salt at the rate, excess water will be forced out of the container.

I have 1.5 kg of salt in my dishwasher.
In different types of dishwashers in different ways: more and less. Pour until the salt is visible, up to the neck.

It's strange, but for me (Ariston) the indicator goes out only after the washing cycle has passed - it does not go out immediately. Is this how it should be?

girls, ordered a dishwasher via the Internet, now in anticipation of this miracle,
but I will have a bunch of questions. Girls, PLEASE tell me who has the Zepter dishes, can they be washed there, and if so, which ones do you use?

Can you please tell me if it is possible to use, for example: washing powder from one manufacturer, and salt and rinse aid from another, or all 3 components from different companies? I don't really like Somat powder ... Has anyone used Crystal? He is more expensive than Somat, but how does he wash?
And yet, just do not laugh, put the pill in the compartment for pouring the powder? And then the tablets were included with the dishwasher, and now they are with me ...

Can you please tell me if it is possible to use, for example: washing powder from one manufacturer, and salt and rinse aid from another, or all 3 components from different companies? I don't really like Somat powder ... Has anyone used Crystal? He is more expensive than Somat, but how does he wash?
And yet, just do not laugh, put the pill in the compartment for pouring the powder? And then the tablets were included with the dishwasher, and now they are with me ...

I didn't use a crystal, so I won't say anything .. Salt, rinse aid and powder can be used from different manufacturers, but still better from one .. (how do these chemicals interact with each other ..) but I have different soaps and ... everything is fine washed ... I did not notice the difference ..
Put the tablet in this compartment .. Good luck !!!!!

... Has anyone used Krystal? He is more expensive than Somat, but how does he wash?

I bought a crystal once, it washes mediocre, Somat is much better.

I bought a crystal once, it washes mediocre, Somat is much better.

In our supermarkets, unfortunately, only Somat and Crystal are made from powders ... And tablets are much more expensive ...

In our supermarkets, unfortunately, only Somat and Crystal are made from powders ... And tablets are much more expensive ...

Take Somat, it washes perfectly. In general, almost all powders are washed well, just not to run into a fake.

Take Somat, it washes perfectly. In general, almost all powders are washed well, just not to run into a fake.

I have Somat in a 2.5 kg red bottle, produced by Mr. Engels

Esfir, I had pans f-we zepter, safely washed in the dishwasher and at 70 degrees.

See what kind of dishwasher they came up with (for those who have a tight spot):
KitchenAid's ultra-compact FlashDry dishwasher:


What is written about her:
Any housewife has to wash the dishes every day. The best helper in this is the dishwasher. But she does not always find a place in the house. In small kitchens, it is physically impossible to install a standard size dishwasher. In addition, to start a full cycle, which lasts 2-2.5 hours, you have to save up dishes throughout the day, which is extremely inconvenient. And a short cycle often does not wash the dishes properly.
KitchenAid's FlashDry dishwasher solves all these problems. It is so compact that it fits into the compartment of a conventional sink. The top cover of the dishwasher is made in such a way that when closed it resembles a cutting board. This allows it to be used as a cutting surface.
The dishwasher is perfectly organized inside. Despite its small volume, it has several extensions, thanks to which irregularly shaped dishes can be placed in it. The unit can hold up to five place settings at a time. What is also important, the sink uses 2 times less water compared to the conventional version. A full cycle lasts only 20-30 minutes.

Oh, I feel they throw me rotten tomatoes for my question. A family of 4, I hate dirty dishes in the sink, so they wash immediately after use. But there is so much enthusiasm here, according to your PM that you involuntarily wonder, but "should we not aim at William, our Shakespeare" By the way, none of our acquaintances, neighbors, colleagues at work, "familiar saleswomen from the store" have such a unit. Everyone says the same thing, "Why won't I wash 3 taralki or what?" Well, what do you say?

[iris. ka]

iris. ka Sometimes you have to love and pamper yourself, spare at least your hands and nerves, I am very sorry that I did not buy PMM 20 years ago. Yes, and they cost like an "airplane", and there was

Oh, I feel they throw rotten tomatoes at me for my question. A family of 4, I hate dirty dishes in the sink so they wash immediately after use. But there is so much enthusiasm here, according to your PM that you involuntarily wonder, but "should we not aim at William, our Shakespeare" By the way, none of our acquaintances, neighbors, colleagues at work, "familiar saleswomen from the store" have such a unit. Everyone says the same thing, "Why won't I wash 3 taralki or what?" Well, what do you say?

iris. ka, so they told my mother and me all this too, and as soon as they did not laugh and did not reproach. And we bought it. Mom - small for 4 sets (they live together with dad), and I for 12 people (my husband and I have two children). So what? Now I don't even wash a teaspoon after tea - I threw everything into the PM, pressed the button and went to do something else. And the PM will wash and dry everything. Here it is fundamentally not how much and what to wash (greasy or a teaspoon) - the question is different - not to wash at all and time, which is so lacking forever! As I write to you, my PM will wash my dishes in 30 minutes after yesterday's dinner and today's breakfast. BUY definitely.

A dishwasher is another level of washing, it's almost like a washing machine (you can also wash it by hand). The dishes are definitely cleaner. If there is still space in the PMM, I shove a kettle or grates from the stove or a dish made of micra or some things that decorate the kitchen (when you wash them by hand). Now I have more time to do something else, but at least wipe the lockers

I, too, when I bought my PM 4 years ago, I have not heard enough. And reproaches, and sidelong glances and "I can't wash it myself" - everything was. Since then, many of those dissatisfied and bought a PM for themselves - will not get enough of it. One family all said that they did not save up dishes and generally liked to wash them.When they were doing repairs in the kitchen 2 years ago, they dismissed my talk about PM. And now they are thinking where to put the dishwasher, the repair has already been done.

What about saving water by having water meters? as well as electricity?

[iris. ka]

iris. ka It saves water specifically, try to wash and rinse 9 sets of dishes in 12 liters of water at T * 60 * C, it is very difficult. For electricity 0.8 kWh per cycle, it may be expensive, but health is more expensive

Buy definitely! At first my dear was very indignant, and the same sidelong glances - three of us live, it's already difficult to wash the plate after you! And we bought 12 sets in the evening, and sometimes already in the afternoon full. And cans for canning? Yes, and they correctly wrote above - how many small things in the kitchen, which, in principle, to wash - just waste time, but you want it to be clean and beautiful And now, no problem - everything shines and sparkles. And then - you never wash all the dishes with 10 liters of water .. In any case, I can't. And the savings on water are significant (I have meters)! Buy, you will not regret it.

Now she carefully threw a fishing rod for her husband: "Can we buy a PM?" In his eyes (I did not understand) either longing for an inevitable event, or "why am I a fool married", or maybe "oh, I have these women's know-how", and somewhere "have you overeat henbane?" But that's why we and women There are many tricks and tricks, ranging from a simple resentment and scandal, to an affectionate and fluffy kitty, or you can just get drunk and agree

[iris. ka]

iris. ka "Aerobatics" is when a woman succeeds in "decorating" her idea so that it was his idea, and not just an idea, but a dream of recent years

And how the PM washes the baking sheets !!! The PM should be of A class in terms of water and electricity consumption - then the savings will surprise you. Yes, detergents for PM seem to be not a small price - but they are enough for a long time, also not critical for the budget. In any case, the effect of the PM is such that you will be ready to pay twice as much. The husband must be convinced at any cost!

I, too, when I bought my PM 4 years ago, I have not heard enough. And reproaches, and sidelong glances and "I can't wash it myself" - everything was. Since then, many of those dissatisfied and bought a PM for themselves - will not get enough of it ...

Likewise, but I still survived and bought!
By the way, have you noticed that only those who do not have one discourage buying?
I'm not saying that they are jealous, they just don't know WHAT HAPPINESS IT IS - DISHWASHER !!!!!

they just don't know WHAT HAPPINESS IT IS - DISHWASHER!

I confirm completely, the presence of a dishwasher is just a holiday of some kind

And I was discouraged by those who had PMM, and even Miele, but they did not use it (why?). We also held out, fortunately, the whole family was unanimous (my husband only slightly doubted, but decided not to contradict), and for 6 years now we have loved her, darling.

Uh-huh. In my environment at that time, no one had it.
Off. We discussed CF with the same family. The husband was delighted. The wife is in her repertoire: you have to cook with your hands, standing over the stove for hours (I exaggerate), this is the only way it turns out delicious. A few months later we went on vacation together. They cooked there ourselves, at the stake and in my MV. A week later, my wife thought about buying the same saucepan.
So that's it. It seems to be a whim, but contagious

[iris. ka]

iris. ka "Aerobatics" is when a woman succeeds in "decorating" her idea so that it was his idea, and not just an idea, but a dream of recent years

I usually do this to my husband. But he offered me to buy a bread maker, I did not know about them then. And I found this site too. And I am still surrounded by kurkulka, especially after buying a PMM.
iris. ka, I like the writing style. I love people with a sense of humor

I have a built-in PM Electrolux ESL 45010 - it washes very quietly, absolutely does not interfere. The upper basket is lowered if desired. The ability to stop during the washing process and select a different program (if necessary), the control buttons are on top of the panel on the lid. Programs (5) - but I mostly use one - 30 minutes, it washes ideally even the most dirty dishes.There is a delayed start. On / off indicator light.

I also have Electrolux but ESL 47020, very quiet, it's good that there is a "beam on the floor", otherwise I would not know when the wash was over. I also use the main 30min program.

[what salt to throw]

People! I read in some topic on PMM disassembly on the basis of what salt to throw - a specialist or a cheap, edible ... How was this issue solved? reference, pleated or in two words, who what ...

[what salt to throw]

People! I read in some topic on PMM disassembly on the basis of what salt to throw - a specialist or a cheap, edible ... How was this issue solved? reference, pleated or in two words, who what ...

IRR, you buy salt (necessarily special for dishwashers !!!) where you buy powder for dishwashers.

I buy both Domol powder and salt. By the way, in Watsons there are two more days of 20% discount on ALL dishwasher products. A trifle, but nice!

[IRR,]

IRR, you buy salt (necessarily special for dishwashers !!!) where you buy powder for dishwashers.

I buy both Domol powder and salt. By the way, in Watsons two more days of 20% discount on ALL dishwasher products. A trifle, but nice!

Lucy, thanks! I ran to buy. I also only use this Domol, it seems the cheapest option comes out ...

Girls, can anyone say something about hmm KAISER?

casual, I think Bubu Kaiser, but she was not very happy with her.

[casual]

casual Better AEG, IMHO

My friend Kaiser. The machine is 2 or 3 years old. For a long time already lost count of how many times it was repaired. Now there are some problems again.

sazalexter, but can you tell me why AEG is better, in terms of functions or reliability?

[casual]

casual Yes, and my Electrolux ESF 4151 has been working since December 2004, it's almost AEG. only more budgetary for more than 5 years history, one breakdown

People!
Who knows how to preserve the PM for the winter - it will stand in an unheated room; what to unscrew, etc.?

People!
Who knows how to preserve the PM for the winter - it will stand in an unheated room; what to unscrew, etc.?

The most important thing is to get rid of the water inside. It is necessary to unscrew the drain hose, and lower it below the level of the bottom of the machine so that the water is drained, or pump out with a pump. There is also water in the salt tank. Salted, in theory, should not freeze, but it is better to pump it out of there too. The main thing is not to forget to pour water there again in the spring, and mix it well with salt.

Thank you! And with a pump - is it with a pump? And how to remove water from a tank of salt?

Thank you! And with a pump - is it with a pump? And how to remove water from a tank of salt?

Of course, I'm sorry, but you can try to remove the water from the tank with a large enema.