Gypsy
Quote: aynat


Maybe she doesn't heat up?
Maybe we will call to find out the service.
Quote: ValeryVP

it is she who is shocked by the cold water ...
most likely Now they have connected to the hot one, I will wash yesterday's one and wash it today. dishes .. compare.
aaschulz
PM and washing machines must not be connected to hot water.
Read the instructions - there are many reasons.
Gypsy
Quote: aaschulz

PM and washing machines must not be connected to hot water.
Read the instructions - there are many reasons.

very likely. I did not find instructions in Russian from the manufacturer. The seller sold the car with a bunch of instructions in different languages ​​besides Hebrew and Russian. We read the English version, we did not meet anything like that. Now we will require instructions in Hebrew.

I washed it today on the same program with hot water as before - everything was washed well.
Ksusha
Quote: aaschulz

PM and washing machines must not be connected to hot water.
Read the instructions - there are many reasons.
I would not be so categorical. My first Vyatka washer was connected to cold and hot water. And now I know that there are models that allow this connection option.
I have a PM connected through a gas water heater, that is, we can say that it is connected to hot water. And everything is fine mmm
saannai
Quote: gypsy

Yesterday I was shocked by my Siemens, I got half of the dishes dirty, and that after 2 hours 10 minutes at 65 degrees with a 3 in 1. In addition, the dishes were very wet. And what has changed, before that she was washing pretty well. And what has changed is that they connected it to cold water as it should be. She used to work with hot water. After washing and rinsing with hot water, the dishes were almost dry, although not perfect. I thought I would connect it properly to cold water and the dishes would be completely dry, but it turned out, on the contrary, everything became disgusting.
I scoured the forums, some write that after connecting the PMM to hot water, the PMM's brains fly off, especially if the hot water temperature exceeds 60 degrees, so that the water temperature does not exceed 60 degrees, an additional thermostat must be installed. That might be the reason ...
Here is a quote from one forum: Hello!
S / m / machines are designed for connection to hot water (60 degrees).
But the masters do not recommend connecting to hot water.
Since, with such a connection, valves fail very quickly.
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KRISECHKA
please tell me which of BEKO to choose? I need a full size freestanding and preferably steel color
zvezda
choose from..DFN6631S DDN5832X DSFN1530X
Hairpin
I advised my friend Veko ... He doesn't talk to me now ... She says that I sent him there, I don't know where ... Like, there are no built-in full-size ones on sale in Moscow ...

Hairpin
1. Look what you are! Do you slip without auto mode? WE, MOSCALS, HALF LOADING? !!!
Well I'll get to you ...

Dishwasher selection (2)

2. Well, he found her. With auto mode. I was looking for half a day. It was so stuck that she was not in the Internet shops, that it was no longer a dishwasher, but that "I will catch her !!!"
zvezda
Are you making up for me ???
And what is half bad for you ??? Forgot a juicer one there?
The main thing is to want ...... you have a lot more choice !!!!!
You are already threatening to come ... oh, I don't remember how long ... but I don't see you
Hairpin
The half is not the one that is narrow, but the one that has a half load. And I need a car !!!
zvezda
Quote: Hairpin

Half is not the one that is narrow, but the one that has a half load. And I need a car !!!
Yes, I understand ... I'm not a knock-knock ... sit, I'll open it myself ...
The 1530 has a Quick & Clean program
Hairpin
Wait. Quick & Wedge is a quick wash.

And when I bought my Bosch, I asked the seller why there was no 1/2 button. Then he said ... well, he said culturally, but the point was that I was a fool. Because if there is an Auto button, then 1/2 is no longer needed. So the Auto button is a cool 1/2.

Therefore, according to Veko, I realized that I needed the Auto button, and 1/2 was no longer needed.

I don't know which one of us is knock-knock, but it becomes interesting ...

Therefore, I told that employee that he needed a model whose number begins with 5 or 6. And the difference is in this button ...

JEFFREY!!!!!!!!!

You don't want us with Star got into a fight? Apps absolutely do not want to trudge to Leningrad in this weather ...
OlenaS
Quote: Hairpin

Wait. Quick & Wedge is a quick wash.

And when I bought my Bosch, I asked the seller why there was no 1/2 button. Then he said ... well, he said culturally, but the point was that I was a fool. Because if there is an Auto button, then 1/2 is no longer needed. So the Auto button is a cool 1/2.

Therefore, according to Veko, I realized that I needed the Auto button, and 1/2 was no longer needed.

I don't know which one of us is knock-knock, but it becomes interesting ...

Therefore, I told that employee that he needed a model whose number begins with 5 or 6. And the difference is in this button ...

In VEKO Auto models, this is a program in which the machine selects the washing temperature (I don’t want to lie, but I’m too lazy to go look at the machine .... in my model, from 40 to 65 degrees) and, accordingly, the duration of the main wash cycle ... As far as I understand, there is some kind of sensor that determines the degree of contamination of dishes in the PMM by water pollution, respectively, the required washing temperature and time are selected. The number of dishes in this program is not automatically detected
For a smaller number of dishes in the PMM, a separate half-load button is made. If you press it (it does not work on any program), then the consumption of water and energy efficiency will decrease, the program time will be shortened, but not by half. In my opinion, the instructions say that you need to fill one of the baskets (only the upper one or only the lower one).

The amount of water for the Auto and the regular program (for me it is fast, 1 hour), and with a half load is different (our water from the machine is drained into a separate tank, so the amount can be controlled).
zvezda
I will not fight you
Quick & Clean is literally FAST and CLEAN !!!!!!! Ooooooo very convenient program !!!

Quick & Clean - a unique program developed by Beko - is the fastest program in its segment, providing washing class A not only for lightly soiled dishes, but also for dirty pans, plates and pots. The A-class wash cycle takes only 58 minutes, which is even faster than hand-washing dishes.
She washes at 60 * !!!!!! And why is your car ??? I have this program, but I never use it ....
Py. Sy A could have flown into St. Petersburg .... to the light !!!!!
Gypsy
I have a strong opinion that too clever technology that thinks for me is an extra headache. The washing machine that somehow determines for me how much and what I do not want. Likewise, the dishwasher who weighs everything there herself and determines and on the basis of this herself chooses the temperatures, etc., I looked at this one without buttons at all .. I, I like it myself, I need to decide now quickly or I need hot and thoroughly and a lot of water ... But this is me, and the people who bought this machine without buttons 5 stars threw it on the Internet. So it depends on the character, to someone the car is nicer, and someone to exhibit everything himself.
Hairpin
Quote: zvezda

I will not fight you
Quick & Clean is literally FAST and CLEAN !!!!!!! Ooooooo very convenient program !!!

Quick & Clean - a unique program developed by Beko - is the fastest program in its segment, providing washing class A not only for lightly soiled dishes, but also for dirty pans, plates and pots. The A-class wash cycle takes only 58 minutes, which is even faster than hand-washing dishes.
She washes at 60 * !!!!!! And why is your car ??? I have this program, but I never use it ....
Py.Sy A could have flown into St. Petersburg .... to the light !!!!!
Gee-gee-gee ... In my Boch it is 32 minutes. But ... As far as I remember, regular use of fast programs leads to the appearance of the smell. At first I also just used it, then a smell began to appear, and I read about its frequent use. Now I use fast only when time is running out.
Hairpin
30 minutes with heating and drying? !!!
Gypsy
And I have a fast 29 minutes .. current nifiga is not dry dishes, if washed as expected at 45 gr.
ikko4ka
Quote: zvezda

And I have the shortest .... 30 minutes !!!!!
Asterisk, and what is Mark P, M ,?
natali2305
I. Thanks to the girls, I ordered myself a Veko 6830 - they will bring it on Sunday. Hairpin, pliz, how is this model doing with friends?
Hairpin
Fine. No complaints. Only I don't remember exactly what kind of model it was ... Narrow, freestanding, but I don't remember the numbers ...
ValeryVP
Quote: OlenaS

For a smaller number of dishes in the PMM, a separate half-load button is made. If you press it (it does not work on any program), then the consumption of water and energy will decrease, the program time will be shortened, ...
I have a Beko DFS 6830, there is this button. But I still did not understand her work. When you activate it on the display, there are no changes in time. The question is - what then? Forgetting time to change?
natali2305
Hairpin, it seems this model (narrow, freestanding) you tested with your Voshik, but it was a long time ago. So I’m wondering what’s wrong. I was reading your posts and chose a car. It is very good that it behaves normally in operation.
natali2305
You are generally interested and most importantly "useful" to write, I always read your posts with pleasure and interest. It's time for you to think about a book
saannai
Quote: ValeryVP

I have a Beko DFS 6830, there is this button. But I still did not understand her work. When you activate it on the display, there are no changes in time. The question is - what then? Forgetting time to change?
I will repeat In the instructions for BEKO DFN 6611 it is written, I quote: if you want to start the machine with an incomplete load, put the dishes in the machine in any quantity you want. Select the desired program and click the partial download button. By using the partial load function, you can use the upper and lower basket of the machine and also reduce water and energy consumption.
This does not change the washing time. And this function can be used with all programs. It just uses less water and electricity.
Also, some models have an auto program and a half-load function.
More on the Quick & Clean program: A daily program for washing dishes that is waiting for their turn in the fastest way.
For comparison: Economical -155 minutes, 13 liters of water, 1.05 kW, 50 degrees

Intensive -136 minutes, 14.8 liters of water 1.45 kW, 70 degrees
Quick & Clean - 58 minutes, 10.2 liters of water, 1.24 kW, 65 degrees
OlenaS
Quote: ValeryVP

I have a Beko DFS 6830, there is this button. But I still did not understand her work. When you activate it on the display, there are no changes in time. The question is - what then? Forgetting time to change?

It changes for me in only two programs out of 8. The total time is shortened by 20 minutes maximum But I do not use this button: when choosing the PMM I thought that it would be useful, now my assistant works at least once a day with a full load (a lot of dishes fit, I am compact post). Our team, which stains the dishes, turned out to be very big (and now it is generally spoiled in the sense that it is not necessary to wash with your hands, and therefore you can stain everything that is clean in stock ...)

Model - DFN 6837.
artichoke
I ask for advice. My husband ordered PMM Indesit DSG 051 EU for 10 sets. It seems that everything is OK class and washing and drying and energy consumption A, but I'm somehow scared. Maybe there are owners of such a miracle, share your experience
Boo Boo
it seems to me that there is no need for indesite, the washing machine has fallen into disrepair in three years.
Taia
From a constant reader of this topic I decided to become a participant. I got out of the bushes so to speak.I recently bought a Zanussi dishwasher. Happy immensely.
Giraffe
And today I fell into a trance ... A week ago I bought Hotpoint ARISTON LSF 273
On the sticker. that the classes washing, drying, energy consumption are three A, today I needed to find out which basket to load with 1/2 function (they do not write about this in the instructions) and went to look for details on the Internet, as drying and washing class B is indicated everywhere in the technical specifications. They chose for a long time, in specialized stores.BOSH did not take it because there were no instructions for him and the employees could not tell anything about him, besides. that he is German. They offered to go through a week, and during this time they download from the office. site, but I can. Just doubts arose in general about him in this context. Everything was in place for the rest of the Boshevsky models, but Turkish ones would not fit into my kitchen either. Respond, please, who has a model the same or close to mine. And after all, I live in a large city of Kazakhstan and such a disorder. The assembly is Polish.
Boo Boo
Do not worry, there is not much difference between A and B.
Giraffe
I've already looked at the water consumption meter at 12 liters versus the declared 10. I wonder what other surprises might await me.
Hairpin
Quote: giraffe

BOSH did not take it because there was no instruction for him and the staff could not tell anything about him, besides. that he is German. They offered to go through a week, and during this time they download from the office. site, but I can. Just doubts arose in general about him in this context.

As the owner of a Bosch class T, I can say that I have been using it for the third year both in the tail and in the mane. No complaints, but ... There is a chance that I grabbed one of the last clean models. After that, I read a lot of complaints about Bosch ... After those complaints (especially about the silicone brush, with which I don't have troubles) I'm afraid to recommend Bosch ...
Hairpin
Somewhere far, far away, there was a post that the family, which had been using Veko for a long time, when changing the PM, decided to afford Bosch. I make a reservation that Bosch is twice as expensive. And then there was the pulling out of the hair on the head, since the quality of the Bosch sink turned out to be much worse than the Veko sink. And, as an example, it was said that Bosch cannot even wash a silicone brush. It was a long time ago, but it seems that the conversation was about a full-size freestanding Bosch.
My Bosch washes the silicone brush with a bang ... That's why I thought that something had changed after my purchase ...
zvezda
Maybe you just got lucky?
Giraffe
Quote: Hairpin

Somewhere far, far away, there was a post that the family, which had been using Veko for a long time, when changing the PM, decided to afford Bosch. I make a reservation that Bosch is twice as expensive. And then there was the pulling out of the hair on the head, since the quality of the Bosch sink turned out to be much worse than the Veko sink. And, as an example, it was said that Bosch cannot even wash a silicone brush. It was a long time ago, but it seems that the conversation was about a full-size freestanding Bosch.
My Bosch washes the silicone brush with a bang ... That's why I thought that something had changed after my purchase ...
In my case, the price for Bosch did not greatly exceed Ariston, and if everything was in place and everything was told in the store (usually I dig into everything), then I would have Bosch. And now I really would not like to be disappointed in Ariston.
Cvetaal
giraffe , I sincerely wish you not to be disappointed in Ariston. I have been using this machine for 5 years and I have developed a strong immunity to this brand. She washed the dishes with varying degrees of success, sometimes excellently, sometimes very badly, the sealing gum cracked in the 2nd year of operation, but despite this, no leaks were observed. The filter had to be cleaned almost after every wash from small crumbs and so on. Now I have a Bosch, full-size, fully recessed, German assembly, in 2.5 years no negative emotions, perfectly clean dishes, silent operation, the filter is always clean, its device grinds small particles of waste and no problems.
By the way, the silicone brush washes away, like the Hairpins, with a bang.
Gypsy
I report that a technician came yesterday, officially connected my dishwasher, persuaded my husband to immediately buy and install a stabilizer for electricity and a stone filter directly to the dishwasher, roughly more than $ 200 is the case. The kit also includes detergents, but he did not have it, then he will give it back. This is the background. Connected as expected to cold water, this morning I turned it on and lo and behold! the dishes are clean and hot. In short, her brains have adjusted, then we'll see how it works.

Girls, how are wooden and plastic scoop spoons smeared with porridge, in particular oatmeal, washed in your machines? After washing, I always have porridge on them
Kitty
Gypsy, I have nothing left on the ladders-plastic and wooden
Gypsy
And I still have, not all of the porridge, of course, but there is Maybe I somehow put them in the wrong way? I have them with long arms, so they only fit in lying down. And they are also clumsy, I understand with my mind that it is natural that porridge sticks to them well, because the dishwasher does not rub them with any washcloth.
Jefry
Quote: gypsy

I report that a technician came yesterday, officially connected my dishwasher, persuaded my husband to immediately buy and install a stabilizer for electricity and a stone filter directly to the dishwasher, roughly more than $ 200 is the case. The kit also includes detergents, but he did not have it, then he will give it back.
There are already legends about the art of Israeli technicians to sell absolutely unnecessary things for PMM ... With your electricity networks and water ...
Gypsy
I also read
With electricity, everything is fine, but our water is terrible.
Kitty
Since the water is creepy, it can change the settings of the machine, well, there is salt, rinse aid
By the way, I washed it with powder, everything is fine, with the pills it is worse, and the dishes are wet, and something has not been laundered, they were given as a gift, I will not buy, definitely
Gypsy
The settings are changed to 5, but maybe the master changed something else there, I forgot to check it. There is a lot of stone in the water, we were going to put a filter on the whole house + a filter for food water, until we put it in yet .. they will make a stone countertop, then we will mount it, otherwise I don't even have a sink in the kitchen.
I wash with pills 3 in 1 finish.
ValeryVP
Quote: gypsy

Girls, how are wooden and plastic scoop spoons smeared with porridge, in particular oatmeal, washed in your machines? After washing, I always have porridge on them
I'm not a girl, but ... nothing remains on the scoop spoons - everything is eaten and "licked" at the absorption stage (well, it's very tasty in CF) ... but seriously, it is washed off with a bang. By the way, I put long wooden spoons across the upper basket on the downy plastic "bells and whistles" (there are not enough Russian words for the correct name)
Tanyusha
In my instructions for Bosch it is written that it is not recommended to wash wooden dishes.
lega
Quote: tanya1962

In my instructions for Bosch it is written that it is not recommended to wash wooden dishes.

I also have it written in the instructions. And the people are washing?
Gypsy
washes, yeah, she brought her problems with plastic and wood here
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=27356.0
ValeryVP
Quote: tanya1962

In my instructions for Bosch it is written that it is not recommended to wash wooden dishes.
well, it doesn't say NIZYA ... although it may depend on the means ...

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