Dishwasher selection (2)

jelen, but you don’t want to pay attention to Zanusi, though I have a washing machine of this company and I’m happy. When I was looking for a dishwasher, I wanted to buy either Zanusi or Veko, but at that time these companies did not have black, so I had to take Bosch.

found Beko DSFS 6530 available, they say a new design, according to the description it seems to be quite good, but I'm afraid to rush. Can we still wait for 6830? it is written that the manufacturer is Russia! So much for Turkey!

I want to put in my 5 kopecks. Veko is an excellent dishwasher, I have just 6530. I, too, always chase a bunch of NECESSARY AND MORE programs. As a result, I wash it only at 40 degrees, because 71 minutes is not 120 minutes, and all the dishes have long been shiny and smelling, so it is not necessary to torture them for a long time and at high temperatures. An exception, for the prevention of PMM, I periodically put on the standard, where the temperature is from 55 to 65 degrees. "Baby" did not use the program at all. 30 minutes at 35 degrees is very rare, because the detergents, and these are SOMAT and Calgonit, almost always with their bells and whistles like "7 in 1" or something like that do not wash well and the dishes seem to be cloudy. What am I leading to? You only need two or three programs, why bother?

After reading about the lack of the hydraulic system of Activewater in Bosch, I conclude that it is better not to take Boshi now? Or is there no such system in some models?

After reading about the lack of the hydraulic system of Activewater in Bosch, I conclude that it is better not to take Boshi now? Or is there no such system in some models?

This is not a drawback, but its own specificity ... If the funds allow, then why not take Bosch (just not the lower segment). Baskets seem to be more convenient and so on and so on. If after 2-3 years the water block is closed, buy a BEKO. Or you can immediately take BECO and sleep peacefully.

In my opinion, I will have to temporarily postpone the choice of PMM, it turns out that I have drawers in the kitchen of a small depth, 45-55 cm. Where the depth is 55 cm, there are water meters. It's only possible to transfer them somewhere.
And for full fittings, when you indicate 55 cm of the depth of the machine, does this mean taking into account the facade, or is it just the machine itself, plus you need to add a centimeter or two of the thickness of the facade?

And what kind of PMM brand Neff? There are descriptions of such machines, but nowhere on sale.

I have Ariston Hotpoint, 7 months working as a bee. I like that you can separately wash both the upper basket and only the lower one. There are a lot of programs: auto, eco, fast, for dirty dishes, for very dirty and dried-on ones, for crystal, quiet at night, rinsing. The price is quite budget. What else does?

I have Ariston Hotpoint, 7 months working as a bee. I like that you can separately wash both the upper basket and only the lower one. There are a lot of programs: auto, eco, fast, for dirty dishes, for very dirty and dried-on ones, for crystal, quiet at night, rinsing. The price is quite budget. What else does?

So that the PMM intermeddle in a depth of 50 cm-th cabinet. I have already re-measured this and won back 5 cm, since initially I thought 45 cm at all.From a shoveled list of models of all possible manufacturers, I found only compacts to such a depth, moreover, if all firms offer for 6 people, then Bosch, Siemens and Neff offer for 8 persons. Moreover, Bosch cannot be taken because of the specifics of the water block. Siemens and Neff - I don't know which hydraulic system costs, it is unlikely that it costs the same.
I think we need to think more. For example, remove the back wall of the cabinet (hardboard) and maybe, by analogy with the situation at the Hairpin, there was a couple of extra centimeters lying around to the wall.
Everyone has problems with the width of the PMM, and I stood out, I have problems finding a suitable depth.

The back wall definitely needs to be removed and squeezed back in .. it will still be better than the desktop one ..

[Nat_ka]

today I ordered Beko DSFS 6530. Tomorrow they will bring it, then I will unsubscribe how much worse it washes dishes than Bosch. Thank you all for the advice!
Nat_ka, please describe all the troubles and nuances, or stick your nose on the page where you described your first impressions.

[jelen]

jelen! Wrong attitude !!!
Maybe your new CENTURY will wash better !!! And if you immediately set yourself up for the bad, then only the shortcomings will be visible !!!
But what about the joy of a new thing? !!! But what about free beautiful hands? !!! A joy not to wash the dishes with cold water ?!
I have my Vekosha 6611 pts. I love you dearly, and she washes no worse than Bosch with some and Indesit with other friends!

I wash dishes the second day, quiet, washes well, very happy! I liked the Quick & Clean program. I haven't tried the rest yet. It dries well too. I concluded that the quality of washing is not inferior to Bosch.

Don't get carried away with fast programs. This issue has already been discussed here, their frequent use does not have the best effect on our assistants.

[jelen]

jelen!

I am very glad that your new assistant did not disappoint!
I usually also Quick & Clean 65 * 58 min. turn on. I did not notice the difference when using long programs.
Ksusha, about short programs 30min. and low temperatures were discussed, and Quick & Clean washes at 65 *, which gives hope that the fat will not stagnate where it is not necessary !!!

I read you and dream)) I want to buy myself a Veko 6830, but we will make repairs in the kitchen with a plumber and related joys already in August, but I want a typewriter now! someone tried to independently connect the PMM to water? It is very difficult?

my husband connected it himself, I think many do it themselves. By the way, my built-in PMM worked for 2 years without this very installation - it was waiting for repair. I see no reason to postpone the purchase

and mine connected itself for 1.5 hours with disassembling and assembling the desktop

[Nat_ka]

...Nat_ka, please describe all the troubles and nuances, or stick your nose on the page where you described your first impressions.

Absolutely easy to use PMM. The main thing is to figure out where to pour the rinse aid, because there is an indistinct picture in the instructions. I also advise you not to put VERY dirty dishes (such as 3-liter old cans and pots with something dried up) in the left corner of the lower basket. For some reason, they are not very well washed there (but this is with my favorite 40-degree program).

Dear PMM users, I ask you to share your experience, who has a Siemens SF 64 T354 EU car ... Yesterday I just bought it, chose for a long time, decided that I would take Bosch, but when I saw Siemens in the store, I immediately decided: I take it !!! Moreover, it was the last one and there was a 30% discount on it ... Unfortunately, it was not possible to connect right away, because the kitchen furniture will be ready only by the end of the month, but I am already in anticipation ... Maybe there are some- then the features that should be taken into account, since I am a "teapot" in this matter.

Comrades, just hooked up the dishwasher, poured salt, you have to wait for it to completely dissolve? According to the instructions, it is written to fall asleep 2 kilos of salt, I only have a kilogram of something

Add salt, add detergent and start the program right there. She herself must show on the display what else she needs.

Comrades, just connected the dishwasher, poured salt, you have to wait for it to completely dissolve? According to the instructions, it is written to fill in 2 kilos of salt, I only have a kilogram of something

pour more until it starts to get enough sleep .. I also have 2 kg according to the instructions, but 1.6-1.8 usually fits, no more ...

lenok2_zp I also have no more than 1 kg fit into the machine, a month is enough for 2-2.5.

Comrades, just connected the dishwasher, poured salt, you have to wait for it to completely dissolve? According to the instructions, it is written to fall asleep 2 kilos of salt, I only have a kilogram of something

Comrades, take me to the ranks of the owners of dishwashers! now, too, we bought a small 45 cm Samsung dishwasher, I’m not very used to it (my hands are reaching into the sink), but already very nra! especially gorgeous wash pots and pans. And tell me about salt - where should I put it? I didn't have this in the instructions ... only about the first idle mode before use.

I have a Veko, there is such a cap at the bottom, unscrewed it, poured water and sprinkled salt

I have a Veko, there is such a cap at the bottom, unscrewed it, poured water and sprinkled salt

so what is the salt for? is this the first flush? like a cleaning lady?

so what is the salt for? is this the first flush? like a cleaning lady?

To regenerate the ion-exchange filter, there will be no salt, it will bend, the repair will cost $ 200

To regenerate the ion-exchange filter, there will be no salt, it will bend, the repair will cost $ 200

wow! I'll study the instructions more closely, otherwise I suddenly missed about it ...

Hello! I want to thank everyone who writes here! Thanks to all of you, I also have a dishwasher ... that's just a problem at once, the Beko dis 5830 machine, I can't fill in the rinse aid. From the hole indicated in the instructions, it flows out and the absence indicator does not go out. please tell me what to do

Hello! I want to thank everyone who writes here! Thanks to all of you, I also have a dishwasher ... that's just a problem at once, the Beko dis 5830 machine, I can't fill in the rinse aid. From the hole indicated in the instructions, it flows out and the absence indicator does not go out. please tell me what to do

In all machines, you must first open the lid, fill in the rinse aid, and then close it. Then the indicator will turn off. Maybe the instructions are incomprehensibly drawn? This is a common occurrence.

Well, you really do me so, of course, I understand that then you need to close the lid, that's just the point, I pour it into the hole that is drawn in the instructions, but firstly it is poured very little, maybe 10 ml, and when I close the lid, it flows on the wall of the dishwasher.

[Nyutik]

Nyutik
Most likely, there is air in the rinse aid system, it was like that at first, I poured rinse aid when the door was raised and tapped and tapped. It helped.

wow, at the next boot I'll try, maybe it will help me ... I just remember that when I was choosing a typewriter, I re-read everything, starting from the 1st temka, and there someone wrote that there was an error in the instructions for the beko, and the rinse aid needs to be poured into another hole, or maybe, of course, I just have a lot of information stuck together and I'm just confusing something, I read the 1st topic to the 90th page and until I found this ... and the gift pills have already ended and now you need to fight again with this hole for the rinse aid, you don't want to wash with pens

Well, you really do me so, of course, I understand that then you need to close the lid, that's just the point, I pour it into the hole that is drawn in the instructions, but firstly it is poured very little, maybe 10 ml, and when I close the lid, it flows on the wall of the dishwasher.

Not the machine door, but the rinse aid compartment lid. Nothing should flow out there when the door is closed.
It is usually about one hundred ml.

[Nyutik]

Nyutik , I have the identity Beko. Try to fill with a syringe without a needle. I did this at first until I got used to it. Maybe you pour too much, so it doesn't have time to seep into the hole.

I had Ariston and at first I had the same song. The rinse aid simply did not have time to flow into the hole. It is necessary to fill in more slowly.

[Nyutik]

Nyutik... most likely you are pouring rinse aid into the wrong hole
musyanya wrote about it
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=116.1630
Gotta pour into hole number two
I also have Beko

Thanks for your help, I did just that, the indicator went out. It lights up when you just turn on the machine and the door in an upright position, and when you open it completely, it goes out.Probably when the door is closed, it does not hit the sensor.
Tell me more about the stiffness, I immediately set it up, with the combination indicated in the instructions, but I just don't understand whether these numbers r3, r4, etc. should be displayed constantly on the panel or not?

No, they are not constantly displayed, they were exposed and forgotten
The rinse aid indicator should not be on, try to top up again, maybe you didn’t pour enough

Hello dear hostesses and hosts!

I really want to buy a dishwasher. Narrow for 8-10 sets of dishes ...
I don't understand anything about them!

I read it, I read it ... so much has been written, I can't master it! You scold, then praise, I don't understand anything.

Tell me which one to buy ??? To be inexpensive and cheerful?

Inexpensive and cheerful - this is Beko.

Alena78, here on the forum many girls have typewriters VEKO and only positive reviews, so if you need an inexpensive dishwasher, take VEKO you will not regret it.

Alena78, here on the forum many girls have VEKO cars and only positive reviews,

I confirm !!! I have BEKO. True, they have risen in price over the past year, I generally took it cheap!

[Omela]

Omela

And thank you!

Here another question arose, buy built-in or separate. They should work in the same way?

Buy it as it suits you according to the interior. The only difference is in the price: built-in ones are more expensive.

I have a free-standing DFS 2531 - inserted under the tabletop. Here I showed it:

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=27402.0

Looked!
Thank you!
I'm just afraid that we will buy a built-in one, and the connection process will be delayed, my husband is still a rubber man.

Let's think and decide.

And the connection process is no different. Unless the facade still needs to be screwed onto the building.

[Jefry]

Jefry

Here's how!

Where do they get the facade?

[Jefry]

Jefry

Here's how!

Where do they get the facade?

Let's take it in order: a freestanding PMM can be put in any place, it has a completely closed case and the door is fixed in the open position. If you wish, you can shove such a machine under the table, if its appearance fits into the interior of the kitchen. The built-in has no side walls and the door has a "technological" look. An ordinary furniture facade is hung on it (taken in the same place where the kitchen itself was made). Without this front, the door does not lock in the open position and strives to push the baskets with dishes into the machine.