Dishwasher selection (2)

The plate is thin, it is attached to the bottom of the table top, to protect against hot steam.

It is not just thin, but very thin, self-adhesive, I bought it in Ikea

It is not just thin, but very thin, self-adhesive, I bought it in Ikea

Nope .... I don't have it on self-adhesive, but on the screws. The thickness is about 0.8 mm, it is doubled along the edge and goes between the tabletop and the PMM mount (insert). It looks like galvanized, and maybe stainless steel. Now I can't figure it out. After so many years of using PMM, the tabletop is intact, which means that the plate will fulfill its function.

Hello.
Tell me, are there any restrictions or requirements for the length and diameter of the filling / drain hoses for PMM?
The fact is that from the place where I plan to install the PMM to the place where the hoses are connected - ~ 2.5 M. Isn't it too much? Do I need to raise the end of the drain hose to a certain height (as, for example, in washing machines)?
And further...
Advise on which PMM to stop, if necessary:
0. For a family of 4 (2 children, one very small, in diapers)
1. Freestanding, narrow (9 sets are enough).
2.With a quick wash program (the faster the better).
3. With a delayed start.
4. Minimal noise and current / water consumption.
5. Maximum washing / drying class.
6. Acceptable build quality and materials (to ensure the level of reliability).
7. The budget is up to 15 sput.

Which model is preferred? Are there any complaints about them? In some reviews on Electrolux, there are complaints about the exactingness of the voltage quality, such as that if it is lower or higher than the reference 200-225 V, it does not work. Is it so?
If there are more attractive, in your opinion, models, please give a hint, they suddenly fell out of attention. Thank you .

[zab_zab]

zab_zab Hoses do not need to be lifted like in a washing machine. Electrolux ESF 43020
quite a decent budget model, keep within this amount even in the CENTURY, but it will be a noisier option. Or budget Bosch

[zab_zab]

zab_zab If space is available, consider buying a full-size 60cm.

Thank you for participating!
What can you tell us about the hose length requirements?
And about the full-size one: it will not work, since there is just not enough space.

Thank you for participating!
What can you tell us about the hose length requirements?
And about the full-size one: it will not work, since there is just not enough space.

I have a dishwasher hose stuck in the pipe at the bottom. Apparently there is no need to lift it. As for the length, I will not tell you exactly, I think that if the hose is too long, the drain pump will be overloaded, or what she has there. One thing I can say for sure, the dishwasher should be next to the sink, otherwise it is very inconvenient to use.

[zvezda]

What can you tell us about the hose length requirements?

My instructions say: the maximum length should not exceed 4 meters. And it is written that it must be fixed at a height of no more than 1m.
zvezda Thanks for the compliments!

Girls, my time has come to suffer at the computer, I choose PMM on the instructions of my daughter. She wants a tabletop. As I understood them, there are only 2 firms - Bosch and Electrolux. The search engine did not give me anything else. I read reviews - Bosch is more expensive to repair.
But I think that she will talk to her husband and maybe they will take more. There seems to be a lot of positive reviews written about Veko. In general, the head no longer cooks anything. I will advise and stay extreme in case of breakdown.
Veko owners, are you disappointed?

I'm glad. Eyelid suits me both with the price and washing of dishes. Good luck with your choice. I do not recommend taking a desktop one.

I have a full-size Veko DFN 6611. I am very pleased. Washes, dries well. Washes everything even on an accelerated 30-minute program (except for the broth rim, which is easily removed after one movement of the sponge).
It's just a pity that the size does not exist anymore! On weekends we drive several times.

And I am very pleased with my Veko 6830. Washes, dries perfectly!

I want to share my experience on how to integrate a dishwasher into an existing kitchen.
When I was making a kitchen set, there was no question of a dishwasher - why is she? what nonsense that I do not wash the dishes.
Here is a cabinet under the sink



But it turned out that it is possible to insert an electrolux compact for 6 persons there too



One door, on the side of the chuhlyadok, consists of 3 former overlays for the drawers. We got two compartments for household chemicals and two drawers for lids.

I finally went to the kitchen masters and now he (the master) suddenly says to me * why do you need a 60cm dishwasher? buy a 45 * type in their family for three 45 cm and they load it every three days. I'm in doubt, they probably don't come home or don't eat, because I always have a full sink, only glasses ..here mate.. butted already. Tell me who thinks for 4 people 45 or 60? despite the fact that I make dumplings myself, not store-bought

If space allows - then 60! 45 is if there is not enough space, well, or you practically do not cook at home, or you eat once a day. I have 45, there are three of us. So on the weekend I can download it 2 times. Somewhere like this

Thank you, there is not much space, but I can donate 15 cm of the lower cabinets. I have top cabinets up to the ceiling
I somehow rested 60, because I look at the price there is no difference, and in extreme cases there is a half load in it, and the master was confused .. I thought you never know, a person has such a job, does a kitchen, maybe he understands more in this

[Gypsy,]

Tell me who thinks for 4 people 45 or 60? despite the fact that I make dumplings myself, not store-bought

Gypsy, and what is the connection between PMM and dumplings? Maybe someday I will decide to buy a dishwasher, but for now I don't know what to wash, I have 4 plates on the dryer, to load the machine I need not wash the dishes for two days. But we make dumplings only with our hands.

Duc, if you buy semi-finished products in the store, then wash the dishes much less, and if you cook everything yourself, then wash the dishes up to the throat

I had a pm of 45 cm for 5 years, for 4 people this is not enough, unless, of course, you bother it 3 times a day, you can't place pots, pans, and now it's 60 cm for two years, I turn it on once in the evenings or by the morning with a respite, everything fits and no stress.

[Gypsy]

I have 4 plates on the dryer, I need not wash the dishes for two days to load the machine.

And spoons, forks, knives, cups, pans, pots and all sorts of bowls. Almost all of them have breakfast and dinner at home + cooking, so it comes running.

Gypsy Take 60 and don't even think about it.

[Gypsy]

Gypsy Take 60 and don't even think about it.

I join! I have 45, we are 2.5 people and just enough.

Tell me who thinks for 4 people 45 or 60?

If space allows, of course, it is better to take a full-sized one. We have a family of 4 people, the car starts up every day, and very rarely at half load. When there are guests, the machine is also washed twice a day.
Happy shopping!

Well, I'm already choosing .. and now I probably have a stupid question, if, for example, I buy one on which the kitchen front panel is hung, can I use it until the kitchen is done for me? that is, it will be without a panel in front.


I can't find something for myself in inexpensive ones without a facade so that it suits me in terms of functions and so that there are no complaints about it, I picked up a white one with an even front so that it looks the same with the facades of the kitchen. Therefore, I already went along the * front *

I used mine for 3-4 months without a facade, while I did not have a kitchen, there are no problems in work, except for stability. When opening the door, you must hold the machine itself, otherwise it may wrap

yes no, it is not light, it is just that the door opens with effort, so the frontless machine itself must be held. She, of course, will not fall, but will bend. I don't know how your top looks, on my Bosch I also put a 60x60 chipboard panel on top and used it as a table.

[Electrolux ESF65040]

So, I went to look differently and it seems that I come across very much even nothing in the region of 2 thousand rubles (I am looking for a white one, with a flat appearance), such an electrolux is not bad in appearance and description, there are no reviews for this model. Can anyone have one, tell me the scoreboard is there, does it show the time until the end of the program? I did not find this on the sites in the product description.

Electrolux ESF65040

[Gypsy]

Gypsy My suite is counting down the time in minutes 120-119, etc.

[Gypsy]

Gypsy My suite is counting down the time in minutes 120-119, etc.

the same model as mine above? That is, this scoreboard shows the countdown? and then in the description only about indicators all sorts of squeaks. And there is a half load in it, otherwise it is not written either.

Good day everyone, girls. I bought myself a Whirlpool ADP 450 WH dishwasher, I have been using it for two weeks, in general, I am satisfied, it washes well, but ... I just saw that it did not have intermediate rinsing. Rather, it is only available with intensive washing, and in all others it is not. Well, the question arose, is the detergent washed off well? maybe there are still owners of the same model?

[Gypsy]

Gypsy No other model is older than 5 years. But the Manufacturer's policy has not changed much. They began to produce even less noisy models. Especially AEG
I don’t have half, as in this I don’t know, you need to look at the office

Well, finally .. here is a review in Runet for this electrolux:
Evgeniya / 31-01-2010 14:23
bought happy worked day to day warranty period and started a fire on my day jam broke the teng to repair those who wanted to not found it is beautiful now instead of the locker glad that they put it out in time a second before the explosion shut off the gas slammed from the tap to the stove
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I'll go look for other cars, the choice seems to be for my money

... Especially AEG

Thanks AEG looked, those with the scoreboard are expensive .. I'm looking for a cheaper one, I would like to fit in 2000.

While I stopped at Beko and Blomberg, outwardly many people fit me at Bloomberg, I like that there is a handle on which a towel can be hung On Bloomberg, we have not bad reviews, who has Bloomberg's thread? Is he kind of Turkish?


yeah, read the reviews, people write everything perfectly, quiet economical, but the plates are wet .. have to wipe. I don’t want it, I want dry where is happiness then?

[Gypsy]

Gypsy, I would still advise you to buy that Veko, which you need to dress up in the facade, if you still liked it. At one time, I took care of the building and also wanted to use it until I decided to make a kitchen, but my husband was against it, said that it would be a "collective farm". We bought a freestanding one. But it turned out that six months later we ordered the kitchen and now I really regret that I did not insist on our own. Well, you will survive this time with a "naked" typewriter, but then nothing will stand out from the general view. And then you will be happy!

Today my husband joined the search, decided that it would be beneficial for us to connect the dishwasher to hot water, I remember that I came across such a machine with a connection to either hot or cold water, but I can't remember which one .. I've already rummaged everything, my husband found only ariston from inexpensive , but I remember that I did not look at Aristona at all. Can anyone in the know if there are still companies that produce dishwashers that connect to hot water? I found instructions by Zanusi and Bloomberg by searching, but they seem to be without an electronic window

Hot water source?

Solar battery

Wow, if you're going to use hot water, be prepared for the dishes to be wet. And perhaps the detergent will wash off worse.

Why wet, because the water is not hot enough? Doesn't the machine bring the water to the right temperature? And it is bad to wash off for the same reason?

At one Israeli forum, many wrote that it is not so profitable for hot water, but my husband decided that the conversation was mainly about apartments in high-rise buildings, until you wait for hot water, you will merge many liters of cold water, and we have a private house, like there should be hot water almost immediately .. he is sure, but I still doubt it.

I think it rinses off worse with hot water, but I'm not sure.
But the principle of drying in the dishwasher implies the presence of cold water. Look, where Jeffrey already wrote about it.

Found, read https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=27364.0

I think it rinses off worse with hot water, but I'm not sure.
But the principle of drying in the dishwasher implies the presence of cold water. Look, where Jeffrey already wrote about it.

wow .. but does not everything dissolve faster in hot water, and drying, in theory, depends more on hot water, the hotter the plates, the faster the fan will dry them, I probably don’t understand something in this technique

I personally find cold water to be cleaner than hot water. Well, think for yourself, until the water reaches us (I'm not talking about private houses), how much dirt / scale it can collect ... And cold water will pick up less than hot ... So I don't see any point in using hot water for PM ...

[Gypsy]

Gypsy According to the passport, almost all models of the Electrolux-AEG-Zanussi concern join hot water, especially models with a turbo-drying
The electronics are designed for this, another thing is that the connector will have to be purchased separately

Thank you!
Well, mine has quirks .. here it was that it was necessary to connect to hot water, I went looking, slept, woke up, I slipped him a topic with posts about hot water, and he tells me that he meant that it was necessary to connect to both hot and cold at the same time In general, I told him that enough to fool my head, we will buy the usual Beko type and connect to the cold one like all normal people

[Beko DSN6835X]

Citizens, does anyone know how the 35 model differs from the 37 except for the price? Yesterday I was looking for nothing, everything is the same in the descriptions:
Beko DSN6835X


Beko DSN6837X

Girls, help me please! Thanks to this forum, I chose a harvester (I love it passionately) and a bread maker (I love her no less passionately), but I can't choose a dishwasher.
I am very worried about the quality of dishwashing. At first I looked at inexpensive types of Beko and Indesit (about UAH 3000), but I walked around the Odessa forum - they were criticized there ... I decided to dig in and buy Bosch (well, I’m ready to lay out UAH 4000 at most), but those models that I liked turned out to be "gray "models. That is, as they explained to me with fakes ... that is, not a real Bosch .... How can this be? They are not on the official Ukrainian site of Bosch, but on the Russian one - they are .... I sit crying ... I'm talking about SMS50E02EU.
Maybe his that expensive Bosch? Buy Beko or Indesite? Tell me what? I need 60cm and soaps are very good ...

[Tulka]

Tulka , I also bought a dishwasher with the help of this forum and bought a budget option - Beko. Warranty for PM is 2 years. On this forum, many Beko have excellent dishwashing quality. ... Good luck with your choice

[Tulka]

Tulka "Gray" equipment is not a fake, but imported in different ways, mainly by private companies that have not received official approval from the company.
In this case, the question of the guarantee remains open. Official s / c will not support it.
PS A did not look electrolux?

[Beko DSN6835X]

Citizens, does anyone know how the 35 model differs from the 37 except for the price? Yesterday I was looking for nothing, everything is the same in the descriptions:
Beko DSN6835X

Beko DSN6837X

Gypsy, if I'm not mistaken, they should be the same, but one for the Russian market, and the other for Ukraine. You can double-check on the official websites. representative offices of VEKO.

Tulka , about the "gray" technique: if you liked the models of dishwashers that are on the Russian website of the Bosch office and not in Ukrainian, then most likely they are not officially made for Ukraine and are not supplied. That is, if you purchase such a machine, then all problems with the repair will be your personal headache ...There will be no guarantees either.