Choosing a dishwasher

all the same they promoted: we also have it. I found a person who has this card and he buys me for the same price as for himself. Just don't say that they sell more expensive because some only need some points ... (I found it on our city forum, you may have your own options)

[Tanyusha]

Tanyusha! ... they have free home delivery ...

if the order is more than 200 points. In our city, people together order someone at home (we do not have a warehouse)

The scheme of points there is so tortuous ... I then read it all and realized that it was unrealistic for 2-3 people to earn points. Well, she spat ...
ValeryVP! And how much is the ball? I don't remember ... Damn, I'll go to the site and read it ...

As in any network company, the price of goods includes the amount of remuneration that distributors receive

I myself have had a hairpin for 7 years, but I stopped playing with this company, I was disappointed.

[Tanyusha]

1 point - 56 rubles ... I have found nothing about delivery yet ...

Tanyusha... In the meantime, I like it ...

liquid remedy? Or in tablets? If, liquid, is there a rinse aid too? Well, excuse me, from the very beginning, I can't read. And frosh, how is he? Who used it? I'm trying to get away from chemistry, but it doesn't work out very well ...

I tried here the economy version from Auchan - Sanit powder (usual, there was some other 3in1). The smell is neutral, the cleanliness of the dishes is decent, however, in this load I did not have radical "inspectors" such as soup pots, but the ladle of dumplings was well washed off. I took it initially because I was too lazy to carry 2.5kg of calgonite-finish, and these were in kilo packs and were somehow inexpensive (about 100 rubles, I don't remember exactly).

Of the minuses - a fairly fine powder - it is more likely to crumble, crumple, IMHO, and the packaging is just a sachet, but I decided this by the fact that it was safely poured into a bottle with a dispenser from under the same finish-calgonite. I will not say that right here I am in wild delight (there are little statistics on use so far), but you can definitely use it. Before that, I only took them salt in the same Auchan, it is almost two times cheaper than the Kalgonite one. Whether it happens anywhere else - I don't know, I saw it only there.

[Kapet]

By advice Kapet bought powder for PMM Compact made in Germany. Has anyone used it? The search engine does not show anything. I'll try it tomorrow, write the result. By the way, I also didn't like Somat (made in Austria), I ruined the garlic press - it turned black, I washed the dishes worse than Calgonit. Apparently it (Somat) should be poured more than Calgonit.

I already seem to have switched ... We also have interruptions with Domol.

And while I'm holding on, yesterday I bought a pack of Domol in my stash.

DC is now becoming Watsons and may, because of this, temporary problems with the goods.

I have never used tablets because of their high cost, but recently I saw them on sale and was tempted to use Frau Gretta tablets because of their low price. I put half a tablet into the wash cycle - it washes very well! Also double the savings. Super. Then I wanted to buy more in reserve, but it was no longer ...

Luysia, thanks for the info, I also use Domol. A good thing, especially after Calgonite in powder (after washing, there were slippery dishes, a lot of foam, although it poured a little). Just recently opened a new package Domol. Today I'll run to the DC, if there is, I'll take another one !!!

Girls, as promised, I report on the use of Minel "Compact" powder. The dishes were washed perfectly, on solid 5... There is absolutely no smell, you can take my word for it (I am very sensitive to smells).I pulled out the fragrance from the dishes from the typewriter yesterday when I was testing the Somat.
I tried the dishes to taste - the taste of pure water. For the sake of experiment, I specially loaded into the machine the long unused grills from the manual meat grinder, they are made of black metal Everything was washed perfectly, the grilles did not get dirty with black, like yesterday the garlic press after washing with Somat in PMM. By the way, Somat is for some reason considered a cheap powder, but after reading the instructions, I realized that it was not. Somat, according to the instructions, is put at the rate of 40 grams for dishes with a light degree of pollution, and 45 for heavily dirty dishes, while Compact - 20 grams. and 30g. I really liked this powder, I bought it in the Metro for 397 rubles, I hope I can continue to buy it there. He is also in Ozon

interesting to order from ozone to Ukraine?

[Fantasticas]

Fantasticas,
Postal delivery outside Russia

It only seems that it will be expensive for me and with Moscow delivery, it seems, expensive - if only at the pick-up point

interesting to order from ozone to Ukraine?

It is possible that Amazon will be cheaper ...

Hello everyone!

Such a question: is there any difference between Finish powder, which is in yellow packaging and in white in terms of washing quality?

I almost run out of white packaging, and so far I see only yellow ones on sale.

[AlisaS]

In theory, a yellow package should be "lemon-scented". It doesn't smell like lemon. In general, there is an indirect way to determine the quality of the powder (both for washing powder and for PMM) - the granules should be larger in size and some of them are of a different color. The finish that I saw here is more like the cheapest laundry detergent - very small granules of the same color. AlisaS, look for the line of Domol products in DC stores.

Kievites - I'm going to Kiev on Monday - tell me, do you have that that FAQ is not in Sevastopol?

do you have a DC? if yes, then it contains powder for P M M brand DOMOL - it is the coolest I was so worn out without it, while I was washing with somat, uzhoss. I bought it now - as I was born again! completely different washing quality

so, if you don't have a DC, then in Kiev take Domol at a DC

[AlisaS]

In theory, a yellow package should be "lemon-scented". It doesn't smell like lemon. In general, there is an indirect way to determine the quality of the powder (both for washing powder and for PMM) - the granules should be larger in size and some of them are of a different color. The finish that I saw here is more like the cheapest laundry detergent - very small granules of the same color. AlisaS, look for the line of Domol products in DC stores.

Alas, no Domola in the nearest shops. And there is no DC either.
All shop windows are full of only Somat and Finish-Calgonite.

Jefry, have you tried washing with powder from both the white packaging and the yellow one (the one with the lemon scent)? Is the quality of washing in PMM the same or not?

Alas, no Domola in the nearest shops. And there is no DC either.

And if you look well?

vul. Engineering, 2-B - the address of the DC store (now "Watsons") in the city of Dnepropetrovsk.

And if you look well?

vul. Engineering, 2-B - the address of the DC store (now "Watsons") in the city of Dnepropetrovsk.

Thank you, Luysia, I will know that it turns out that we also have a DC in Dnepropetrovsk.
But I still can't imagine what kind of store this DC is, I've never been there. Engineering is very far from me, unfortunately, I am not guided in this area.

But my question was not about Domola either!

Eh, okay, I'll go buy a yellow can.

[AlisaS]

I just looked at the site: there is such a store in Dnepropetrovsk.

AlisaS, believe me, Domol is worth a ride to the other end of the city!
And for the price and most importantly for the quality of the sink! I am using ONLY this powder now!

I tried Calgonite yellow and white - there is no difference, but Domol is better!

The only drawback is that it is in soft packaging (do not throw away bottles from under Calgonite).

And if you decide to buy Calgonit all the same, then look at the barcode, it is desirable that it be German (barcode first numbers 400-440), in extreme cases Poland (590) or Czech Republic (859). I used Polish, in 1 kg packaging, I liked it.

And I have the first numbers 900 on the white package with Calgonite, and 594 in the yellow container. Whose production is it then?

59 - Poland code

900 is the code for Austria, 594 for Romania.

Moved to Domol after Calgonite in a white container.I didn't notice much difference. Both that and that washes well.

Have you tried washing with powder from both the white packaging and the yellow one (the one with the lemon scent)? The quality of washing in PMM is the same or not

I took both that and that - which was in a small package in Auchan at the time of purchase. Purely subjectively, I liked the white smell more - there with a hint of mint or something .... lemon is not particularly lemon, but I can't say that it smells bad. They wash in the same way - the main thing is to choose a dose for yourself (it depends on the typewriter and the degree of dirtiness of the dishes). I never looked at the barcode, it even became interesting to look.

And I still use Ashan's kopeesh sanit. It feels like no worse than calgonite, for sure, but it must be poured carefully. When my husband poured out from the bottom of his heart, in the morning the car was filled with soapy chemicals. Today I cleaned the Tefal pancake maker with him from old blunders - she just fell asleep, poured warm water over the pancakes and let them stand and then wiped them off. Everything was cleaned up well - therefore it works.

Thanks to everyone who responded!
I bought Finish in a yellow package.
I left a little more white for comparison - by the appearance of the granules - I did not notice much difference, by the aroma - too (all the same chemistry, but the same ingredients appear on the package).
I chose my standard program and standard powder measure, respectively standard dishes. The result is similar. Everything is also clean. Then it is not clear why these two different packages are sold at different prices?

Although, it may depend on where it was produced. My old white package is code 590 and the new yellow one is 859.

Then it is not clear why these two different packages are sold at different prices?

And I, and many more here stepped on this rake ... "They" have a difference, but we pour out of the same bag in yellow and white, at the same time forgetting to add a couple of important but expensive components ...

Yes, it reminds of an anecdote about Georgian wine - which wine do you like? here is this wine for you.

And the horror is that no matter how much money you pay, no one will ever guarantee quality.

[AlisaS]

AlisaS, personally, it does not bother me at all to take a ride to the other end of the city every six months to buy a quality product that is uniquely made in Germany. Moreover, it is almost twice as cheap as finishing in the nearest supermarket.

Oh, they were fired. I drove fat, intestines, too, Quadris - from plant sores and Trichodermin with Gaupsin - were ... From Domolasche ne bulo ... Does Dnipro have it? Or will you have to visit your aunt in Nikolaev? And where is this DC? Not in the Zhovtnevy district?

The DC now has interruptions with Domol: as soon as they bring it in, they buy it up right away. Ask sellers when the delivery will be. I didn't buy it the first time.

Today in the DC on Heroes of the Dnieper powder Domol was available

I bought Crystal-fix powder. Stood for a week and turned to stone Husband barely gouged! There was no such thing with Domol and Calgonit
Mine seems to be fine ...

And on the pack it is written without chlorine ... Do these powders contain chlorine?

And on the pack it is written without chlorine ... Do these powders contain chlorine?

It's like the smartest people write on bottles of vegetable oil * cholesterol free *

I bought Crystal-fix powder. Stood for a week and turned to stone

I have had it since December, only in one place it hardened, but it was so. He calmly scrapes with a spoon. The barcode starts with 433.

433 Germany code.

I'm just today ofigela was shocked when she took out the dishes from the dishwasher.

There is a white coating on all dishes: on glass, stainless steel, and on plates. This has never happened.

After using Domol all the time, today she poured Lemon Calgonite. My husband just bought it himself, because he remembered what I said about the problems with the powder. I talked about Domola, but he did not understand and bought Calgonite.

So think that they put it there, freaks.

[Luysia]

Luysia
Whose powder, which country of origin?
Now I use Somat - Austria, it has justified itself on short programs, it washes very cleanly.But the German Minel "Compact" washes well only on the full program, on the short program the dishes remain poorly washed.

Finally I figured it out.

Soaps used to be like this (relatively normal quality).


But that one bullshit, the filth of which soap today.



You can play the game, find three differences ...

Finish - Calgonite, Calgonite - Finish ...

Code 859 - Czech Republic and Slovakia.

I also bought a yellow package, but 2.5kg with code 859.
I'm not complaining yet.
But maybe the fact is that I wash on a long program and therefore everything is well washed (I like it more in terms of temperature).
On short ones I tried to wash only glass shelves from the refrigerator, but everything was ok.
But I have no doubt that they are bad, otherwise how to earn super-profits.
I would not be surprised that it is produced somewhere in our country from the cheapest components, and not in the Czech Republic or somewhere else.

Poorly washed, I do not know why the iron lid from the Tefal saucepan, if something was fried in it. And only she. The fat is "brewed" as it were. All other covers with similar contamination can be washed without problems. And this one ... And in different positions it was laid in the PMM. So mine it by hand. I don't even try

[AlisaS]

AlisaS, so do you have Calgonite or Finish (as in the first or second photo)?

Label as in the second picture - finish in large letters
My first package is the same but white.
The only difference is the codes:
white - 590
yellow - 859

The smell and appearance of the powders are no different, as I said before.
I would not buy a yellow one, it has always been more expensive. But as always, it’s out of place, the powder ran out, and these white packages disappeared in stores. Only yellow ones remained and suddenly they became cheaper by 7 hryvnias, although earlier in some stores it was the other way around (yellow is more expensive). I began to doubt, what if some kind of defective batch, times cheaper.
And then I thought - what if these white ones won't appear, or they will appear, but not soon, but I don't want to wash the dishes with my hands. I took a chance. Everything is washed as before. But it seems to me that the time factor plays here in my case.
I also tried such an experiment - pour the water that is drained after the main cycle into an old, burnt pan. Then the pan stood for about an hour with this water. We did not recognize the pan - inside it turned white, that is, the traces of burning began to disappear (before, I tried to wipe it off with different means - soda, bref, etc.). So you ask yourself - what are they putting in there ???

Well, I don’t know, it’s not necessary once at a time.

Maybe different parties? Unclear
Have you tried it on a long program? In this case, there is also such a white coating?

I once had such a problem with washing powder. I used Persil all the time, everything was washed perfectly, and then, whatever I wash, it remains unfinished, stains remain (the codes on the packages match). Nonsense. I tried to increase the dose of the powder - the result is the same. I bought another powder. It's okay.

Now while there is a relatively large supply of Finish, I want to look for another tool for PMM.
Suddenly they really began to juggle. After all, now it is the norm - to bring a new trade mark to the market (the quality may be good, but only at the beginning!), And then, when everyone buys - to badge it and badge it.

So on long and soap.