Svetlenki
Quote: Tanya-Fania
What? Haven't read it yet?



Quote: caprice23
I wash the plastic just at the top.

Here! I trust us more than YouTube. In general, I try to cover the covers with my hands, if only not at all scuffed. I'm afraid there is a greater risk of bursting from washing in the PMM.

VolzhankaD
I had the plastic handle of the frying pan glass lid cracked and the bolt on the Bakelite handle lid rusty. I wash plastic (polypropylene PP) in the upper basket - they are small, in the lower one there are large ones, pans and pots, and containers like plates cannot be made sideways.
Scarecrow
Quote: optimist

In general, I thought that the compartment was intended only for powder, I will now put a pill there.

I have it written: for powder or tablet detergent. I can even hear when the compartment with the detergent opens - a click is heard. This is after draining the rinsing water and filling in a new batch.
Wiki
And I can hear a click, I was even scared at first.

I wash everything in the dishwasher, except for the luminescence of course. Let it burst, rust - buy a new one, hands are more expensive. but I don’t have any dishes at a crazy price. Here's another thing to think about and worry about containers of 100 rubles
Scarecrow
Quote: caprice23

And here is more detailed. Why lemon?

Removal of grease and scale. A recommendation from Mila, whose car I had. The hottest wash program starts and citric acid is added after the rinsing phase ends (20 minutes after the start of the program).
Chamomile
Quote: Wiki
I wash everything in the dishwasher, except for the luminescence of course. Let it burst, rust - buy a new one, hands are more expensive. but I don’t have any dishes at a crazy price. Here's to think and worry about containers of 100 rubles
Golden words, I fully support. I still have bowls from a multi-pressure cooker and a Teflon pan with my hands.
Mandraik Ludmila
The lid might not have deteriorated from washing in the PMM; during frying, it is subjected to more serious tests. And if the screw is rusted, then the manufacturers saved a lot on it IMHO
Zakharovna
And where did you get the idea that the baskets have different washing intensities? Here and there T is the same, there and there the same water pours from the same rocker arms.
I didn’t notice that dishes from different baskets looked different after washing. What pots, what plates, what cans washes everywhere equally.
But there is no place for a pill on the basket in mine, only on the door, only after clicking the pill pops out.
zvezda
I have such a basket
Choosing a dishwasher
Zakharovna
Nope, this is definitely not. Tomorrow I'll look again.
zvezda
I have a Whirlpool and it came with it.
caprice23
Quote: Zakharovna
And where did you get the idea that the baskets have different washing intensities? Here and there T is the same, there and there the same water pours from the same rocker arms.
My instructions say that more soiled dishes should be placed in the lower basket. Probably not just like that?
I think maybe there is a more powerful stream of water from the rocker arms?
Scarecrow
Quote: zvezda

I have a Whirlpool and it came with it.

Do you have Tab mode? When you enable it, the algorithm of the program may well change.
zvezda
Nata, you mean pill mode ?? There is..
Scarecrow
zvezda,

Yes. It may well be that the activation of this mode changes the algorithm of the machine. Well, that is, taking into account the fact that the pill is in this basket. There may be no pre-rinse.
Zakharovna
Quote: caprice23

My instructions say that more soiled dishes should be placed in the lower basket. Probably not just like that?
I think maybe there is a more powerful stream of water from the rocker arms?
yyy ...I didn’t read the instructions. I can scream the current sarcastically: “Maybe you’ll read the instructions for a start, but you won’t guess?” - when the husband starts collecting and launching something new and does not work right away.

Well, maybe, if they write that, but they could explain why it is so necessary.

It is not my duty of the PMM to refuel and disassemble, I generally hate doing this.

I don't like the fact that dry cups and spoons after it seem sticky, I rinse under the tap when I take them for food. What is the reason, I do not know. But it pisses me off.


OgneLo
Quote: Zakharovna
What is the reason, I do not know
The ratio of components has not been adjusted, including salt, detergent and rinse aid.
Zakharovna
How do you do it?
Our water is hard, the salt is on large numbers (according to the instructions), we use the tablets all in one, divide in half or four, there is no separate rinse aid - I am against unnecessary chemistry, always washing on long modes.
I thought it didn't wash out the chemistry.
OgneLo
Quote: Zakharovna
no rinse aid separately
In your case, you cannot do without a rinse aid when washing with tablets and capsules. When washing with powders and gels, the rinse aid will also need to be set to high values. All this is probably written in the instructions for your car. Bosch writes about this in the instructions for his cars.
Quote: Zakharovna
I'm against
There is even nothing to comment on.
Quote: Zakharovna
I thought it didn't wash out the chemistry.
That's right: not all substances found a steam for neutralization, since the owner healed and, as a result, could not wash off the dishes with water.
Wiki
Quote: Zakharovna
I don't like the fact that dry cups and spoons after it seem sticky
There is nothing like that. On the contrary, when you slide your finger, there is a characteristic sound, which is called "clean to the squeak", that is, the surface is completely grease-free.
OlgaGera
Quote: Zakharovna
We have water tough, salt is on large numbers (according to the instructions), pills we use everything in one, divide in half or four, rinse aid separately no
And she still washes? Eh ..
Quote: Zakharovna
I am against unnecessary chemistry
wash with handles in mustard ..))) gyyyy
The rinse aid is wrong? Lemon ...
Try not to divide the pill. Maybe you can wash the dishes normally ...
caprice23
If I am not mistaken, then the rinse aid, on the contrary, helps to remove the detergent from the dishes and improves the drying quality.
OlgaGera
Quote: caprice23
rinse aid, on the contrary, helps to remove the detergent
and that's why they rinsed under the tap after pm
caprice23
Quote: OlgaGera
and that's why they rinsed under the tap after pm
Who does that?
I do not rinse, I have it not slippery, even creaky.
And if there is a need for rinsing under the tap, then the supply of the amount of rinse aid is incorrectly adjusted.
OlgaGera
behold
Quote: Zakharovna
yyy ... I haven't read the instructions
Quote: Zakharovna
I don’t like that dry cups and spoons after it seem sticky, I rinse under the tapwhen I take them for food.
caprice23
Understood
OlgaGera
Quote: caprice23
even creaky
me too. Even though the water is sooooo hard.
I already wrote somewhere that I wanted to throw out my asko. Didn't like how soap was. Spent 20 minutes, read the instructions, my husband twisted the hardness of the water, somewhere inside. And now I love her sooo much, my hmm
Wiki
Quote: caprice23
I do not rinse, I have it not slippery, even creaky.
In-in. Sometimes, even if you manage to hold your hand by accident, it already drives your teeth
Zakharovna
Quote: OgneLo

In your case, you cannot do without a rinse aid when washing with tablets and capsules. When washing with powders and gels, the rinse aid will also need to be set to high values. All this is probably written in the instructions for your car. Bosch writes about this in the instructions for his cars. There is even nothing to comment on. That's right: not all substances found a steam for neutralization, since the owner healed and, as a result, could not wash off the dishes with water.
Why in our case? Because of the hardness of the water? Or why? It seems like a tablet declares the presence of rinse aid, salt and other things. What does he need in addition to it?
The salt is consumed very quickly.

Quote: OlgaGera

And she still washes? Eh .. wash with handles in mustard ..))) gyyyy
The rinse aid is wrong? Lemon ...
Try not to divide the pill. Maybe you can wash the dishes normally ...

Where can she go? The start button has been pressed!
Maybe then soda, no? ))
Lemon, by the way, is a carcinogen.

Didn't share.

A quarter gives the same effect as a whole one, then why an excess of detergent?
In addition, the whole pill also smells. Somat in general knocks down, when you open the machine, it smells like a fairy. Right now I got into the machine, the pan smells like Paklan powder (I don't know how much of it was put in).
I liked the Lotta pills (I don't remember which ones any more), they wash well, there is no smell after washing, there is no smell in the machine. Here they were divided into 4 parts. But I didn’t see the same sort again, from Ozone they also sent Lotta, but not that one, layers of tablets of other colors, they didn’t turn out to be very good and crumbled, besides, in packages and during division.

Quote: Wiki

There is nothing like that. On the contrary, when you slide your finger, there is a characteristic sound, which is called "clean to squeak", that is, the surface is completely degreased.
Yes, plates and pans creak, creak. And they shine, I close my eyes. This is only with cutlery and cups.
Believe it or not, I even licked the plates for the purpose of checking. Well? Right now they are salty, I can feel it.

I read it on the powder packaging if you want to achieve the best result, use powder + salt + rinse aid. I mean, for just good - after all, not everything is possible? Where is the catch?

I'll find a manual, what they write there, what they insist on ... I'll think!
OlgaGera
Quote: Zakharovna
I'll find a manual, what they write there, what they insist on ..
adjust the water hardness to suit your conditions. And there will be happiness. But that's not where the rinse is. Dig into the instructions or call the service center for your model and try them
OgneLo
Quote: OlgaGera
Dig into instructions
Not a lordly STE business ...
Quote: Zakharovna
yyy ... I didn’t read the instructions. I can scream the current sarcastically: “Maybe you’ll read the instructions first, but you won’t guess?” - when the husband starts collecting and launching something new and immediately does not work.
Zakharovna, instruct your husband to study the instructions and apply the knowledge gained, and monitor the implementation.


Wiki
Quote: Zakharovna
Believe it or not, I even licked the plates for the purpose of checking.
Why don't I believe it? I licked too
zvezda
Quote: Wiki
I licked too
Well, you understandably ...
Wiki
Before NG, I found traces of powder on the plates, that is, it does not dissolve even on a long program, settles on the dishes and dries to it during the drying process. It was a powder purchased from Cosmetic Magnet

Choosing a dishwasher


I discovered this for the first time, although I had already bought this powder before.
I didn't like it at all and I bought Finish gel.

Choosing a dishwasher


It says about 24 car washes, this information is unreliable. Let me remind you that it was BEFORE the New Year, and I still have the gel. I think it will be over by the end of the month - that is, it will last for two months, and this despite the fact that mine is at least once a day on ordinary days, and before the holidays and until January 10, I had a lot of cooking and I started the machine 2 -3 times a day. Washes very well, no terrible stench.
There is no desire to return to any powder.
Svetlenki
I want to discuss / share my observation. Regarding washing containers, the lids of which have a "lock" gasket that can be removed. We are talking about Sistema containers and containers from Ikea.

Experience alarmed me zvezda, Oli, she said that over time, these gaskets began to fall out of the lids of Ikea containers. So, I will not wash these gaskets in the PMM either. Unfortunately, they stretch from washing there.

Does anyone else have experience washing such containers in the PMM?
belena74
Quote: Svetlenki
Someone else has experience washing such containers in the PMM
Svetlana, I have a long-term one! experience. I use Ikea glass containers, wash only in PMM, the oldest containers are at least 4 years old. No problem found ... The rubber bands in the lids are in place all the time, they are washed, I don't touch them or take them out ...
zvezda
Quote: Svetlenki
these gaskets began to fall out of the lids of Ikea containers
Sveta, not from Ikea !! From the Seven Hills !! in general, everything fell apart ...
OlgaGera
I bought Yplon powder. I washed the dishes twice. Smell. Deadly metallic smell.
There is a rinse aid, theirs. Their salt. Before that there was our powder, I don't remember. I took it out of the NZ, just in case I was lying .. There was no smell. And here..
I'll go get the Fae drip, wash everything.
caprice23
Quote: belena74
The rubber bands in the lids are in place all the time, they are washed, I do not touch them or take them out ...
I also always wash them in pmm. I do not remove the rubber bands from the lids. The flight is normal!)
OlgaGera
On Ali, there are discounts on fairy capsules. 899r 70pcs.

Scarecrow
OlgaGera,

In the Metro, capsules Fairey 1000 rubles 84 pieces. I hope the promotion is not over yet. Not platinum, really.
OlgaGera
Scarecrow, I have a Metro 200 km closest)))

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