Choosing a dishwasher

Happy Easter to everyone!
Girls want to thank you, I already wanted to change the PM, the dishes were washed very badly! I used Finish's pills, switched to Fairy's capsules on your advice and everything began to wash out

I have a 45 min program for glasses and cups, and the next one is 1h35 min, is it short ?? In fact, in the afternoon I always put it on it + click "save time" and "1 \ 2 downloads" - it turns out 1 hour. For three years of operation, I did not notice the difference with other programs

[Aunt Besya]

Aunt Besya, I have a short 30 minutes.

[Aunt Besya]

I used Finish's pills, switched to Fairy's capsules on your advice and everything began to wash out

Somat Gold all in1 (tablets) is even better washed.

Aunt BesyaElena, in my short program (45 minutes), the Faerie capsules do not have time to completely dissolve.

I switched to somat loose, the program is short, a little bit of powder, it washes everything. I have a Bosch machine.
If a very dirty frying pan has not washed out a little, then I put the full mode periodically, a little more powder, to clean the machine,

Hello everyone. After PMM, a white deposit remains on my dishes. Changed a few dishwashing detergents. Can you tell me how you can fix this? Thank you in advance.

Hello. I will describe my experience in detail. The soap machine is initially fine. The dishes were like new. Soap with tablets from a set that I bought for the initial start-up (it contained salt, rinse aid and tablets). Then I bought other pills and powder to try. At first everything was normal, and then a white bloom began to settle. On the internet everywhere they write that you need to wash the car with a cleaning agent, or change the level of hardness and rinse aid, or even the water hardness level sensor has flown. I changed the water hardness and the rinse aid was no use. I washed the car with lemon. When I started it with a lemon, I later remembered that there were mugs in it. She did not stop and when the car was washed, the mugs glittered. After subsequent washes, plaque continued to appear. I washed the dishes with tablets, which I washed the first time and the plaque began to disappear. I gave the powder to my acquaintances for testing, and they also began to develop plaque. I realized that the car was in order and decided to change the vehicle. I saw cheap pills in the store and decided to try it, all the same there was nothing to lose. The dishes are shiny, no plaque. Try flushing your car and look for a product. Maybe my experience will help you.

[Mandarin]

Mandarinwhat remedy was that left plaque. So that we don't buy it at all.

[Albina]

Albina, my plaque remained from the Somat powder. Basically, it was the same story as that of Mandarin, Soap powder and everything is blotted. Changing the settings didn't help. Completely switched to tablets + necessarily salt + rinse aid at a minimum. The dishes are shining!

I had a yellow coating on the dishes from Somat, I was tortured until I guessed that it was from powder

[Mandarin]

Mandarin, and how cheap are you washing now?

We have the same story, we have to wash with tablets + salt, the water is like that

and how cheap are you washing now?

Aquarius tablets, as well as salt and rinse aid for 2.

what remedy was that left plaque. So that we don't buy it at all.

I read this Claro powder here on the forum (in principle there is a plaque, but not much), ribbon powder (from the Lenta store, a lot of plaque), ribbon tablets (they were 5 in 1, washed normally, now new 7 in 1 - strong plaque).Now I mainly with the aquarium and periodically with others, and I see that plaque appears after these funds. But you have to put them somewhere. So my time with a ribbon tablet, then I wash the plaque off with an aquarium 2 sinks. The dishes are clean.

Somat -powder mine for a long time, the water is very hard, normal, I like it. Not worse than the finish, even better. It is strange that I did not like it.

Are there chemists here? Tell me, if bicarbant is off scale in water, what to do?

Are there chemists here? Tell me, if bicarbant is off scale in water, what to do?

bicarbonates (bicarbonates) are ordinary water-soluble salts, have a slightly alkaline reaction, therefore, the deposits of these salts are perfectly cleaned with solutions of acids (citric, acetic), the reaction is violent, with the release of carbon dioxide, so do not be alarmed
For a dishwasher, it is the hardness of the water that is still important, and not the salt composition. Use hard water detergents as recommended in the instructions, clean the machine with a lemon.

Thanks for the answer. The most interesting thing is that the water is of medium hardness, but the plaque is just awful, more or less only tablets are washed

Marin, try to make the settings for harder water, at least for one wash, and evaluate the result. The fact is that carbonate hardness is considered temporary (it can be easily removed, for example, by boiling) and is not always adequately assessed by test strips.

Who knows why there is such a range of prices for salt, and in general, dishwasher salt is salt in Africa, or does each manufacturer have its own composition?
For example, somat in the region of 80 rubles or German manufacturers in the picture.

I have always believed that dishwasher salt is some kind of specially purified salt, I don’t bother with the manufacturer, but I only wash dishes with environmentally friendly ones (Ecover, Sonette, Almavin, etc.). "bio myo"), instead of rinse, I pour either homemade apple cider vinegar or, if available, rinse aids of the above brands.

I also take eco / organic.
By the way, the ecover rinse was lost in the bargaining. networks and purchases, only iherb can be ordered.

I'm afraid of vinegar, I read that it corrodes something there, maybe plastic parts or rubber, I don't remember.

How many years have you been doing this? (vinegar instead of rinse)

My PM is 17 years old, without a single repair, only the drain hose was changed, dried out from old age. For 5-6 years, I have been using ordinary table salt from the store, large or small, which is at hand if only without additives. A friend prompted this idea, noting that NaCL is written on the box with PM salt. I think the edible salt is cleaner than the PM boxes.

A week ago I bought a Clean Home gel (St. Petersburg), I liked it. Washes clean, rinses well and seems to clean the drain hose from plaque. I used to have stagnant water in my filter, but now it goes away completely.

[Juliya_M]

Juliya_MYou, too, have read about vinegar from Kaliningrad for a long time on some foreign forum as a recommendation of some master. I have been doing it for so long, for more than a year for sure (most likely, several years, it completely knocked me off when I bought the car I don't remember), at first I was afraid, but now I constantly pour it, but I took natural vinegar (I took homemade apple or Italian when my own was not more than 6%) ... Many rinse aids have citric acid in their composition (now at work I looked at "Sodasan" - also eco-friendly in German, lemon is in second place in the composition after water).

Yes, too))
I don't even look at avatars, I rarely come here)
If in a city where you see an opolas-ecover beacon in PM.

Where do you buy sodasan and almavil? (except cn)

I work in the store, when they order at the store, I order for myself. But, when it is very expensive, I look for other eco-options). Now we have a bottle of Sodasan, but it's expensive. We drove Almavin before, we liked it very much, now only Ecover and Sodasan. I asked my husband if they bought the car in 2006.

[Zabava]

Zabava, Marina, earlier the technique was made very reliable, now it is not (

I myself am surprised at its longevity, Bosch German assembly.

Clean Home

I have not met this one.

In our city, they are sold in small departments, I bought it by chance in the crockery department, but this company has a website, there are points of sale across Russia. In addition to the gel, I bought a product for the refrigerator and for cleaning the kitchen, I'm happy. Plastic frames and window sills are well washed with a refrigerator cleaner.

Clean Home
I have not met this one.

look in big shopping centers, in our hardware store I met 250 rubles for such a bottle

Good evening! Can you please tell me a question about Lion gel: I can not find if it contains salt and rinse aid? I am a layman in this business before that I used 3 in 1 tablets, and now I decided to switch to gel powders, and even harmless ones. Thank you!

Good evening! Can you please tell me a question about Lion gel: can I find if it contains salt and rinse aid? I am an ignoramus in this matter before that I used 3-in-1 tablets, and now I decided to switch to gel-powders, and even harmless ones. Thank you!

Salt and rinse must be used with the gel separately. They are not included in the gel and powders.

Good afternoon, maybe there was already a discussion, but I'll ask you anyway .... It hurts to flip through Temko for a long time. Has anyone tried to use funds for PMM from Amway? Everything seems to be concentrated there, that is, it should be enough for a long time. Only here is the price. Lately, I don't like Somat, finish, or Ribbon.

[Natalia]

Natalia, I read negative reviews on funds for PMM of this particular company

[Natalia]

Natalia, I read negative reviews on funds for PMM of this particular company

Also came across extremely negative reviews. So I decided to use Japanese chemistry for PMM.

[ega0404]

ega0404, Ulitk @, eh, it's a pity ... I just really like many of the tools there, but for the PMM I didn't dare to buy something. Thank you.

[notka_notka]

notka_notka, Natalia, I buy amway and am happy. The powder did not go (after it, the plaque on the PM was such that I barely cleaned it with citric acid), but yes, I break the tablets in half and put them in the PM, even half enough, everything is washed off with a bang

[notka_notka]

notka_notkaI didn't like the pills at all, I didn't buy them myself, they gave them to me, now they have been with me for 5 years, it's a pity to throw them out.

[ShaKsA]

ShaKsA, and the meaning of such unnecessary body movements? Cut off, get your hands dirty, take a piece back ...
Tanyusha, thanks, I made sure again that I don't need them. There are cheaper ones, which are also poorly washed

[notka_notka]

notka_notka,
Natalya, ask your neighbors and friends from your city. Funds that are praised when using them in Moscow, St. Petersburg or elsewhere may not be suitable for your water. Everywhere there is a different hardness and composition of water.
ShaKsA
I already wrote that pills are not recommended to be broken. I use powder for short programs. Or else you can gel.

notka_notka, Natasha, I have been using Amway tablets for a long time. The result is always a 5 plus! Then the price jumped wildly and, alas, I had to switch to everything that is on the market now. I've tried a lot of things. But the Amveevskys had an unsurpassed result. That's it

Again I switched to Finish powder. After Lentovsky powder Finish is a super tool)))

I never bothered at all. Finish tablets or Somat (which is in the store) + Finish salt + Somat rinse aid. The dishes are shiny.
There are cheaper products in the store, but I'm not fooled yet ... I buy Finish or Somat in large packs of 90 tablets, in 80% of cases there is always a second pack as a gift. So almost for nothing. And for my machine, I divide the tablet by 2 times (I have a machine for 6 items), so I have an economy mode. ))))

[notka_notka]

notka_notka, I have a small car :-)))

[Inessa]

Inessa, and I "Domolom" mine. It is cheaper than all these Somats and others like a Pack of powder is enough for me for exactly 3 months, a bottle of water for a year, only the salt eats like an abnormal one, I constantly run with a box She is very small - apparently, that's why, but in our village I can't find another really.I take everything in "Watsons" - they launched different actions all spring, I got pills, and powder, and a cleaning machine for the machine

I never bothered at all. Finish tablets or Somat (which is in the store) + Finish salt + Somat rinse aid. The dishes are shiny.

I also use Somat, I like the gel, but so far I haven't quite understood the consumption of the gel, it seems to me that it is also good enough. I divide the tablets in half, I now have TopHouse. Seems to be OK. I watched a long time ago a video about homemade penny means

I tried 3-6% vinegar instead of rinse, while the result is not bad

I have a large supply of Japanese gel, but after moving to a new place (with different water), the gel did not go on hot programs
And now I started pouring a little Japanese gel and reduced the dose of the powder. The result is much better, everything was washed off the first time. And the powder is saved and the gel is not idle.

[girls]

girls, after watching the video, I have a question, how much do you think you need to put mustard with soda? powder box 15g

[ega0404]

ega0404, Lena, judging by the comments to this video, the author suggests experimenting with aspect ratios. I'm also going to try 1 to 1 for now, but we'll see. Today I looked at the composition of the Somat rinse aid. The main thing is a citric acid solution. I remember how in childhood my mother washed crystal so that there were no stains with the addition of just citric acid or a vinegar solution