Tanyusha
And I didn't like Faberlik gel, although it was normal, not liquid, it washes worse than Japanese and Italian gels.
marisabelka
Everyone in the evening, I also took Claro tableiki in Ashan, now they are not, I began to take Brilio capsules with gel, at least my plaque disappeared, otherwise I was completely exhausted with a bloom of white
pandorray
I bought salt, powder and rinse aid in the subway today (I also got to the action)! I will wait tomorrow for the typewriter fully armed)))
True, while it is still connected ...
MarinaK
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But I realized one thing for myself: if the PMM is small, then there are a lot of tablets as a whole and this leaves a white bloom, and with less use there is no plaque. Also with powders. The recommended amount of powder for my machine turned out to be too much, I poured less and the dishes washed much better
toffee
Marin, well, maybe you're right in general, but the pill is not really divided in half. She crumbles like a paddle. Powder is easier in this regard. What type of car do you have? I generally have a desktop one.
MarinaK
Irina, some tablets easily break in half, and some are really difficult, so I carefully cut with a knife and put the remaining half in a small container, which I specially started for this. Even if it crumbles a little, then it's okay, then I carefully put it in the machine and that's it.
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What type of car do you have? I generally have a desktop one.
I have a narrow one, Hansa
pandorray
Girls, who has the finish powder?
The instructions for it say 40 ml for the sink ...
In a dividing machine 15 g, 25 g.
How much do you pour on a standard sink? What are you measuring?
tana33
Julia, I don't have a finish, but I measure it with a plastic spoon from washing powder
there are no divisions on it, so I just weighed it once and marked the level on the spoon myself
Jenealis
pandorray, 40 is a lot. The manufacturer is interested in spending more money. Therefore, they write insane norms.
pandorray
tana33, and which one do you use? How much was the flow rate weighed?

Jenealis, so I thought that a lot. While I'm pouring 15g for the sample
tana33
Julia, I have claro, the box says 75g for one full load
I weighed, indicated the level, but I pour less
when it's really dirty or greasy dishes, then I pour the rate
toffee
Quote: tana33

I measure out with a plastic spoon from washing powder
Tanya, what kind of washing powder do you have? I have cups in packs of powder.
tana33
Irina, Korean powder, they have small measuring spoons, as there is little consumption
toffee
Has anyone used Ecover tablets?
ppcd
Has anyone ever used FINE FLER powder from the metro? how do you
* Anyuta *
Quote: ppcd
Has anyone ever used FINE FLER powder from the metro? how do you
I also started to look at it ... I just plan to buy it, because while there is still stock .. it is interesting to hear the opinions of those who used it ...
kavilter
I didn't really like this powder, I washed it badly. Now I take Finish Quantum tablets in the metro, packing 80 pieces 699 rubles.
ppcd
Quote: kavilter
I also started to look at it ... I just plan to buy it, because while there is still stock .. it is interesting to hear the opinions of those who used it ...
I bought it for the second time. just wondering. like washes. I hate kalgon because of the smell. White Naet leaves a lot of funds. I have a lot of funds. some gels for very greasy dishes, some pills for medium soiling. I use this powder on not very dirty. before that with somat powder, but at the end of the second bottle, plaque began to appear. became mostly pills. but expensive. hmm ...
dandelion
Quote: ppcd

Has anyone ever used FINE FLER powder from the metro? how do you

I have FINE LIFE powder. It is normal for every day to have dishes without heavy contamination.
Has anyone used SYNERGETIC Biodegradable Machine Wash and Pkuh. dishes?
tana33
dandelion, I am using at the moment, gel
after powder Claro at first did not impress at all
the girl who is involved in the joint venture immediately said that the reviews are not very

but after using half the bottle, I came to the conclusion that it is not so bad
for dirty dishes, for every day, washes normally, no plaque
it works better for me at 50 degrees than at 65
in general, I will buy as an additional tool
Vinochek
Quote: dandelion
I have FINE LIFE powder.
used it after Domol.
I liked it. I didn't see the difference with Finish. And then I bought (pecked at the price) like this
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I liked it very much.
dandelion
tana33, Thank you. I'll try at low temperatures. I also noticed that it is normal for plates and pans. goes. But for spoons and tea plaque not very (((Could you find out from this girl whether 5l cans of this product are suitable for home PMs? It is also cool for washing floors, cleaning the hood and wherever there is old kitchen soot, well, etc.) e. Only gloves should be worked and diluted.
tana33
dandelion, I will ask of course, I took a liter, try it, now I will order 5 liters, let it be asked, 5l is the same as 1l, which I already took))))) I use these means, I like it, I bought it for the oven, for plumbing, for glass,
rinse agent took 5l
I haven't taken it for washing yet, I also need to try
I haven't seen it in stores, only in the joint venture
but I didn't really look, really)))
dandelion
And I washed it with the same product: girl_red: it's true the oiled blanket that was under the bitch with the puppies. I did not particularly rub and did not make any efforts, I just changed the water 5 times. Washed or washed off with a bang!
tana33
dandelion, what exactly? dishware? well, then it's straight universal))))
alenka_volga
Quote: ppcd

Has anyone ever used FINE FLER powder from the metro? how do you
no difference with powder finish excellent powder
dandelion
Quote: tana33

dandelion, what exactly? dishware? well, then it's straight universal))))

Yeah, dishware I have it like shoe polish... Only everything is in gloves.
ppcd
Quote: Vinochek
used it after Domol.
I liked it. I didn't see the difference with Finish. And then I bought (pecked at the price) like this

I liked it very much.
where is such
Mandraik Ludmila
Interesting topic. I have two dishwashers, in the city is narrow Hansa, in the village is the baby Electrolux. I use Japanese KAO powder here and there.
Choosing a dishwasher
The consumption is minimal, I pour half a measuring spoon, and even less into the "baby". I haven't used a single box in a year. I am satisfied with the quality of the sink, but I do not put dishes with food residues, I rinse them before loading. The powder has risen in price a lot recently, now it costs more than 700 rubles per box on ozone (I bought about 300 rubles more), but with such a flow it is still profitable.
Tanyusha
My daughter bought me a new gel, they write 100% natural composition, although she has not used it yet.
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Vinochek
Quote: ppcd
where is such
found in the usual household. I think it is not a problem to find it in RussiaA, it is produced there in Belgium for the Stupino chemical plant. There is a minus - packaging. We only have 1 kg packaging. I also saw the pills. But I'm not a fan of pills, so I didn't even buy.
Koni
Hello! I'm a beginner, I bought a Samsung PM, installed it in a new apartment, which is currently undergoing renovation, so the dishes were washed only a couple of times - once the finish quantum that came with the PM - everything was perfectly washed, 2 times with the finish powder is also good. Dara had to carry the dishes to the new apartment for this purpose. Therefore, I cannot share my experience yet)). While reading the forum and instructions for the PM. So, the topic of cleaning the PM was discussed here, and here is what I have written about this right in the INSTRUCTIONS: To remove stains from glassware: 1. Remove all metal dishes from the dishwasher. 2. Do not add detergent. 3.Choose a longer cycle. 4. Start the dishwasher and let it run for about 18-22 minutes (my note - I do not have programs without a preliminary wash, so this is how it is). After that, it will go to the main wash cycle. 5. Open the door and pour 2 cups of white vinegar into the bottom of the dishwasher. 6. Close the door and wait for the dishwasher to complete the cycle. If the vinegar does not achieve the desired result: repeat the above procedure, only this time use 1/4 cup (60 ml) citric acid instead of vinegar.

MarinaK
Quote: Koni
pour 2 cups white vinegar
Very interesting! I'll take it on board. And what about 2 cups?
Mandraik Ludmila
Quote: Koni
If the vinegar does not achieve the desired result: repeat the above procedure, only this time use 1/4 cup (60 ml) citric acid instead of vinegar.
Better to start with citric acid, it is more delicate. I generally clean everything with lemon and kettles and coffee makers. The lemon works great!
redleafa
And I can't even do anything with a lemon ... How can I clean a teapot, teach me, plizz ...
I really like the filtero for teapots and coffee makers, but expensive.
Mandraik Ludmila
Olga, pour water into the kettle, heat it, it is not necessary to boil, but not less than 70 degrees of water, pour 1 tbsp. spoon with a slide of lemon on 1 liter of water, boil, leave for at least half an hour, you can overnight. Only in the morning, be attentive and warn your family that there is no water in the teapot, otherwise my husband once tried to drink tea with this solution. Pour out the cooled solution, rinse the kettle with clean water and that's it - you can use a clean kettle.
It is necessary to pour the solution into the coffee makers, just like you can't pour crystals into the kettle.
Bijou
Mandraik Ludmila, I am categorically against the cooling of the lemon after cleaning!)) This should not be done at all.

No, if there was a little raid, then maybe it will cost. But if there was a lot of it, then it dissolves from the hot instantly, but when it cools, it again falls out on the walls. And now it will be more difficult to pick it out than initially.
Koni
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
Very interesting! I'll take it on board. And what about 2 cups?
It says further there: "If the desired result was not achieved with the help of vinegar: repeat the above procedure, only this time instead of vinegar use 1/4 cup (60 ml) of citric acid" Well, analyzing this we have: 1/4 cup = 60 ml therefore a cup is about 240 ml
Mandraik Ludmila
Lena, I didn’t notice, I clean both glass and metal teapots, there is no back sedimentation and cannot be, the acid enters into a chemical reaction with the salts of the sediment and just like that they cannot fall back, the temperature is only an accelerator (catalyst) of the chemical reaction .. and lowering the temperature does not lead to a reverse reaction. this requires some other reagents.
Bijou
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
and lowering the temperature does not lead to a reverse reaction.
Well, it doesn’t work for you, okay.

Then we will assume that I warned others.)) It was enough for me to step only twice for training - to leave the washer to cool down on a pause after "digestion" with acid and forget the boiled thermal sweat overgrown with lime until it cools down. I never repeated such nonsense.
Mandraik Ludmila
Lena, I do not insist, but I have never had such problems, teapots have transparent glass and a shiny disc in the morning, maybe a different composition of water and sediment In St. Petersburg and the Leningrad Region. ferrous water. In general, the city has very soft water and there is no lime sediment, everything there eventually becomes red in color due to iron. And in the region, we have water from a well, after two filter-jugs in series in teapots there is a light gray plaque, maybe calcium ... who knows. But I never fell back. But then, since you have such an experience, it is better, of course, to play it safe and not leave it overnight, and in general then it is better to pour it out in 20 minutes. In our vast Motherland, the water is very different and everything seems to be possible.
Bijou
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
In general, the city has very soft water and there is no lime sediment, everything there eventually becomes red in color due to iron.
ABOUT! So I say that there is probably just little lime in the water and this effect is hardly noticeable.
In my washing machine, after I, a smart balbeska, left the acidic water "that it ate everything well there," the lime that had been eaten off from the heating element and the drum outside settled on the drum inside just at the water level. And when I took out the filter through the hatch, the plastic was also rough from plaque, which had never happened before.

It seems that the lesson was enough for me. But no, I somehow boiled the thermopot and didn't pour it hot in time. As a result, calcium settled all over the pan, although in ordinary life the crust is only at the bottom and on the walls at the very bottom, where the heater is. Yes, most importantly, how disgusting! Repeated boiling dissolves this precipitate worse than the first time!
And why am I not a chemist to understand the essence of what is happening?

Here in the toilet I pour more often in a cold state.)))
tana33
Bijou, Lenaa, please tell me if you suddenly know ...
about salt in tablets, written on the site
Application.
Tableted salt is used for regeneration (recovery) of ion-exchange resins in water softeners.
The tableted salt is placed in the solvent tank, where the regeneration solution is poured beforehand.

regeneration solution - what's this ?
Bijou
I think this is just the same requirement as for ordinary salt for a typewriter - do not pour salt into a dry bunker, but pour water there beforehand, in which it will dissolve. )
Wild cat
Girls, tell me on what mode you need to run PMM for cleaning with citric acid? I have indesite. I can't stand her!
Bijou
Quote: Wildcat
I can't stand her!
Why is this?) I have one friend of the forum member very well to his own. But not very much for Bosch.))

Put acid in the trough and turn on the hottest program.
Wild cat
Quote: Bijou

Why is this?) I have one friend of the forum member very well to his own. But not very much for Bosch.))
Spoons, forks are not washed in the basket. I had to remove it. Pots, for example, where scale remains from meat, does not wash. You have to wash everything with your hands. Morning ladle from dried oatmeal ... same story
But as the saying goes, "they don't look a gift horse in the mouth."

Quote: Bijou

Put acid in the trough and start the hottest program.
How many spoons / cups should you add?
Bijou
Quote: Wildcat
How many spoons / cups should you add?
Wow, you have a tray there! Well, add 30 grams, or something ... I have a small tray, it doesn't fit anymore, but I don't need it anymore - in the washing machine we pour 50 grams of water on a bucket of water, and here there are only three liters of water, even thirty with a margin.)

By the way, scale from meat (protein rim) is not particularly washed off under normal conditions - first of all, thermonuclear detergents and a hot long program are needed, and only then we can talk about the brand.)
tana33
Bijou, Lena, I wanted to buy salt, that's what the manager wrote

- And for what purposes do you need tableted salt?
You cannot pour salt into the dishwasher itself, only into the water treatment before the dishwasher.
Bijou
tana33, here you substitute me for links under the ban.))
Look:
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But the master's business, of course, who to trust more. I don't bother with "economy" anymore.

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