Vacuum packing machine

Natusya, thank you very much! I will monitor her topic for the future. Mom has arrived and she needs "now". When I was choosing, I bought her a vacuumator, I just got to the discussion here on a sale on Ozone, I hoped now

Good day Tell me how best to prepare airfry chicken on the road. Cool first or vacuum immediately? : girl-th: Ancient knowledge interferes - we were taught that chicken, cutlets, minced meat, rice should not be cooled in warm places ... Thank you

[Virine]

Virine, can be slightly cooled down in a container, I was going to the dacha

[Natusya]

Natusya, thank you. But I don’t want to take the container on the train, it’s more than 33 hours to go, I’m afraid to mess with the meat, although I wasn’t afraid to take it before ... and now I’m only taking dried.

[Virine]

Virine, first we evacuate, then we cool

[Buttercup]

Buttercup, Do you pack Lyudmila immediately hot, and then in the cold?

[Virine]

Virine, I let it cool down a little, just in case, so that the film does not "float" and vacuum it very warm ... I understand that it is for high temperatures, but this is apparently psychology ..

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, understandably. Thank you

[Virine]

Virine, you're welcome

Silly question, but suddenly)
I am faced with a choice. Two models: Tinton life SX-100 or REDMOND RVS-M020
Functions: soldering in bags, of course. And in the future I want vacuum containers. Both of these models are supported, but the price is doubled. Actually the question itself: is there any point in overpaying? Visually, Redmond is prettier and, judging by the video, better quality. But is it twice?
Thank you.

Silly question, but suddenly)
I am faced with a choice. Two models: Tinton Life SX-100 or REDMOND RVS-M020
Functions: soldering in bags, of course. And in the future I want vacuum containers. Both of these models are supported, but the price is doubled. Actually the question itself: is there any point in overpaying? Visually, Redmond is prettier and, judging by the video, better quality. But is it twice?
Thank you.

Better take the DZ-280 / 2SE model. You can order from yourself, you can on Ali (if necessary, I can give a link).
This model has 3 main advantages:
1. Seals any bags, except for expensive corrugated ones. For example, I bought myself a roll of 100 microns of film, 30 cm wide and 200 meters (yes, meters) long. It cost me $ 50. You can calculate how much the same total length of special corrugated bags for vacuuming for those vacuumizers that you named will cost.
2. A very important function is the evacuation of wet products. I also have ProfiCook 1015, which is actually an analogue of Redmond's. So, there is an eternal problem with staining the vacuum chamber with marinade and then wiping it off. In the DZ-280 / 2SE model everything is very simple - there is a special container where all the liquid is poured. This container is washed at the end, and the tubes are washed with ordinary water and detergent, which is poured into a vacuum bag, which is connected to the vacuum apparatus, but without sealing it.
3. For me, too, a very significant advantage is manual control of when to seal the bag. That is, we turn on the vacuum unit and it does not decide for itself that it is time to seal the bag, although not all the air has yet been removed from the bag, and I myself press the lever when I see that everything that can be pumped out and it is time to seal.

Better take the model DZ-280 / 2SE

I watched the reviews for a long time. Well, I don't like him. Neither in appearance nor in functionality. Very much "Chinese" some. Therefore, I would like to choose from the above two models. For a week I can’t decide, I have narrowed the range of searches to two options, and you again

I watched the reviews for a long time.Well, I don't like him. Neither in appearance nor in functionality. Very much "Chinese" some. Therefore, I would like to choose from the above two models. For a week I can’t decide, I have narrowed the range of searches to two options, and you again

He looks very decent. Well, yes, the inscriptions are in Chinese, yes, it is light green. But in terms of functions, it covers everything that is currently available for domestic use. Believe me, you will be tortured with corrugated bags, with the inability to evacuate something wet without problems, and with the fact that the evacuator decides for itself that it is time to seal the bag, although there is still a lot of air left.
And by the way, this is not a Chinese invention. About 8 years ago, he first appeared in the USA, but then we had no opportunity to buy at normal prices. It is now the Chinese have rushed in advance.

I am faced with a choice. Two models: Tinton Life SX-100 or REDMOND RVS-M020

Both work in the same way, wet foods are also possible. The only thing you need to get used to is Tinton, and everything is fine.
So if "firm" is not needed then Tinton is not even bad.

And here's another model GORENJE VS120E Who heard what? The price of the norms, the characteristics are the same as those of the models above and the firm is not bad. It turns out something in between the selected models.

And here's another model GORENJE VS120E Who heard what?

Alas, I haven't heard of this "beast". BUT in appearance and functionality it resembles a REDMOND clone. What I don't like with them is the hose for containers, it is specific for special containers as well. For me, it's better like Gochu 470.

REDMOND RVS-M020

In official stores REDMOND now the discount is good, equal to the temperature in your city. We have about 40%. 🔗 At least some benefit from the heat.

We don't have any discounts. Ukraine

[ZagOleg]

ZagOlegSo on the Tinton Life SX-100 just such a hose, it is with a wide tip

Better take the DZ-280 / 2SE model. You can order from yourself, you can on Ali (if necessary, I can give a link).
This model has 3 main advantages:
1. Seals any bags, except for expensive corrugated ones. For example, I bought myself a roll of 100 microns of film, 30 cm wide and 200 meters (yes, meters) long. It cost me $ 50. You can calculate how much the same total length of special corrugated bags for vacuuming for those vacuumizers that you named will cost.
2. A very important function is the evacuation of wet products. I also have ProfiCook 1015, which is actually an analogue of Redmond's. So, there is an eternal problem with staining the vacuum chamber with marinade and then wiping it off. In the DZ-280 / 2SE model everything is very simple - there is a special container where all the liquid is poured. This container is washed at the end, and the tubes are washed with ordinary water and detergent, which is poured into a vacuum bag, which is connected to the vacuum apparatus, but without sealing it.
3. For me, too, a very significant advantage is manual control of when to seal the bag. That is, we turn on the vacuum unit and it does not decide for itself that it is time to seal the bag, although not all the air has yet been removed from the bag, and I myself press the lever when I see that everything that can be pumped out and it is time to seal.

Please tell me you have the same light green vacuum sealer, if so, please give me a reference from whom you bought it and on the film, where did you buy it? Thank you !

Please tell me you have the same light green vacuum sealer, if so, please give me a reference from whom you bought it and on the film, where did you buy it? Thank you !

I bought DZ-280 / 2SE here - www. aliexpress. com / item / Automatic-Small-commercial-vacuum-packing-machine-Household-Food-Vacuum-Sealer-Packaging-Machine-vacuum-food-sealer / 32699307702. html
It so happened that there were other cheaper offers, but their delivery to Ukraine cost +66 more dollars, which neutralized the price difference. Look at Ali, maybe there are better deals for your country.
I bought a film in a roll here vacuum-pack. com. ua, the owner's name is Alexander, he himself produces rolls from purchased film, by the way, he also makes rolls of corrugated film at a price of 10 meters for 141 UAH, which is the lowest price that I have ever seen for such a film. Initially, I found it through OLX, although his offer was quite discreet and strange at a price - it was simply written that the price of the film was 70 UAH and that's it.Although others had a better price in their ads, and the ads were more professional, but in the end the prices turned out to be higher and it was in rolls that only 2 of the 15 sellers I contacted could offer film in rolls.
Alexander is the only one who answered all my questions without rudeness, while other sellers behaved somehow not quite adequately, they say, if you need to answer questions, then only by phone, and not in correspondence, otherwise we will not answer anything, but when he called, they didn’t pick up the phone, or they dropped it, and when they finally called them up, they started to raise the price or it’s incomprehensible to play around.
I advise you to order rolls of 50 meters, otherwise, for joy, I ordered one roll - 200 meters, which was not very convenient.
Yes, here's another thing, 200 meters cost 1300 UAH.

Hello, please tell me where in Ukraine you can buy a Gucci hose? Or is there an aliexpress?

[iG8R]

iG8R, thank you very much for such a detailed answer, I'll go look for everything. I think it will be convenient with a dryer and a packer

[iG8R]

iG8R, hello, I ordered such a packer, the question you are writing took a film 30 cm wide, but I read that this packer needs a film 25 cm wide. How does BB solve this problem? maybe I misunderstood something

[Lauretta]

Lauretta, Hello.
That's right, my film has a width of the unsealed part - 30cm, and the rolls themselves are 32cm wide, that is, from each edge there is a sealed longitudinal strip of 1cm, which forms the package itself. This packer supports the 28cm wide unsealed part of the bag.
And the solution is very simple - when I form a bag from a roll, I seal the bottom of the bag completely in 2 stages, that is, first I seal a part from one edge, and then I align the edge of the bag along this formed seam and re-solder the second part. On the side of the open part of the bag, I seal about 2 cm from each edge, and then, when I finally seal the bag with food, I align the sealing element of the packer along these pre-formed seams and vacuum it. You can, of course, pre-solder 4cm from one edge, but this is your choice. The first 2 packages came out a little clumsy for me, but then I got used to the fact that the package is formed from 2 seams is practically invisible, except if you look closely at the light.
By the way, this width turned out to be even more convenient for me, because quite often I form half-width packages and it so happened that when using a 28 cm wide film, I always lacked literally a couple of centimeters to form packages that would normally include those the products that I vacuum - forever, then the apple was such a diameter that did not pass, then the tenderloin was too wide for such half bags. Then I had to either use a bag with a width of 28 cm, which left a lot of excess film around the edges, or form 2 bags of unequal width, in the hope that "someday I have a bag with a width of 8-10 cm, right?" And with this tape, in some miraculous way, everything was resolved.

[iG8R]

iG8R, thank you very much for the answer, it seemed to decompose in my head

GORENJE VS120E

In the end, I took one. I tried it, it evacuates. I recorded a short video. If interested, I'll post it. In general, the same as many others. It doesn't work with smooth films, and I don't need to.
I wanted to link to the video, but this is prohibited.

So I want to buy the same. Tell us more about your impressions. Can I buy non-branded corrugated film or bags?

Tell

If this is a question for me, then the impressions are mixed)) On the one hand, everything works, on the other hand, on the very first day, the overlay was slightly peeled off, where the control panel is. But those are little things.
The film is only corrugated. I found 20x600 and 30x600 100 microns thick across the country. The first cost about $ 5.5 delivery, the second $ 6.5
For sous vide, I plan to take a more expensive film, where it is indicated that it can be cooked in it. But while I'm packing all sorts of nuts, vegetables and so on ...
I wanted to buy a set of containers right away, but I still couldn't figure out where and how to use them.
Wet evacuates without too much trouble. I tried to marinate the chicken wings, chose the "wet" and "normal" modes, it turned out well. In the "turbo" mode, it pumped liquid. In general, I'm still studying

Thanks for the detailed story. I would also like to buy containers, but they are not available in Ukraine. I will still watch and choose.

but they are not in Ukraine

I found two of the less expensive ones. Search for "set of vacuum containers 140mm orved". The hose is included. Links cannot be given.

I found two of the less expensive ones. Search for "set of vacuum containers 140mm orved". The hose is included. Links cannot be given.

Thank you very much. Found a few.

[iG8R]

iG8R, good evening. I ordered on Ali 23.07 a packer like yours, today I have already received it in my city. Nothing came so fast yet. First impressions are very positive. I want to clarify with you, did not quite understand what the third pipe is for? 2 is understandable for the withdrawal of liquid into the jar, and is it necessary that the tube always be attached to the packer?

[Lauretta]

Lauretta, Hello. I read reviews from this seller - he comes to many almost on the 2nd or 3rd day, but in my case it was 11 days, maybe because of a virus that then disabled many computers, including NovayaPoshta.
There are 3 tubes in total - 2 long and 1 short.
The short one is designed to connect the compressor terminals on the rear wall of the device when there is no need to evacuate wet products and therefore no need to connect a container.
The option of connecting through 2 pipes together with a container is necessary when evacuating those products that can cause moisture or "dust", for example, flour, to enter the compressor circuit, since they will simply disable it, not immediately, but over time exactly.
In order for the vacuum unit to work, a closed compressor circuit is needed, which pumps out air, and those 2 outputs that are on the back wall are just a break in this circuit for connection either with a short tube, or with the help of 2 pipes through the container. If the circuit is not closed, then nothing will be evacuated, therefore the answer to your question is yes, the tube (or tubes with a container) must be permanently connected to the terminals on the back of the device in order for it to function as intended.
I constantly use vacuuming with a container, because I see no reason to rearrange it every time, even if I pack wet or dry products. It's just that the Chinese thought that if a person constantly packs dry products, then to save space on the table, you can not connect the container, but close the circuit with a short tube.

[iG8R]

iG8R, thank you very much for such a detailed answer



iG8R, And tell me the film you took is suitable for making sous-vide?

And so, I ordered a vacuum sealer. I chose between Redmond RVS-M021 and GORENJE VS 120 E. I chose the first one. I'm waiting for delivery. They haven't brought it yet, can anyone express their views. I would appreciate that.

[Lauretta]

Lauretta, to be honest, I don't really understand all these divisions into "suitable and not suitable for cooking by the Sous-Vid method."
Any vacuum bags are made of a film that contains PE (polyethylene) and PA (polyamide), since they have a proven biological safety. There are also SEP (copolymer of ethylene with propylene), SEV (copolymer of ethylene with vinyl acetate), etc., but not everything is clear with biosafety.
Usually, the film consists of 3 layers in the form of a sandwich - PE-PA-PE. There are also 5-layer and with even greater layers, but the price of such films is simply cosmic compared to 3-layer.
Polyamide is used non-oriented, that is, its structure is such that the "threads" of the polymer are "mixed" in the form of a random network, which gives it its main property - PA is used to isolate the product from the environment and prevent it from getting inside or to go outside not only liquids, but even gases - first of all oxygen, although it allows hydrogen to pass through, but for the product it is even to some extent a benefit. Polyamide is the most expensive component of the film and the price mainly depends on its quantity, that is, the thickness in the composition of the "sandwich".
Polyethylene can be produced using different technologies, but now it is standardized and "high pressure" technology is used, which is why polyethylene is called high pressure PE. There is also low-pressure PE, but it is more expensive and is not actually used for the production of bags, since it differs from high-pressure PE only in its aesthetic appearance (more transparent) and more "viscous". The difference in melting temperatures between them is minimal - High pressure - about 100-110 degrees, Low pressure - 120-130 degrees, but the difference in price - wow, therefore, none of the manufacturers uses Low Pressure PE for a reason - why? After all, prices will vary up to 2x-3x, and there is also Polyamide, which is the most expensive film in this composition.
Lines for the production of PE and PA are all standardized and computerized, there are no special workers, therefore, in fact, the film produced in Italy or Germany is the same as the film produced in Ukraine, Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan.
So we come to the conclusion that, in fact, all vacuum bags on the market have the same composition.
And when they start to say that these packages are suitable, and these are not suitable for Su-Vid, sellers mainly use the gullibility of buyers and are guided by their desire to sell at a higher price.

Shl. To convince yourself accurately, ask the seller to show the certificate on the film from which the bags he sells are made. See composition - High Pressure PE, PA. After that, you will know that the maximum temperature at which you can cook in this bag so that it does not melt, we will take with a margin of 10 degrees - 90 degrees. Yes, there is also such a concept as the softening temperature, but you can not pay much attention to it, because in the composition of the "sandwich" PE "clings" to the PA and vice versa, therefore they do not allow each other to deform too much.

[pelmen_ka]

pelmen_ka, great choice! He's working for me for the second season! All freezes are in a vacuum, and the containers are very much in use!

[pelmen_ka]

pelmen_ka, great choice! He's working for me for the second season! All freezes are in a vacuum, and the containers are very much in use!

Thank you very much. It would also be interesting to know. Are these containers with an adapter suitable for any hand held vacuum pump? For example, shteba or caso.

[pelmen_ka]

pelmen_ka, I evacuated the Kasovsky pistol, not very convenient, but possible.

This is interesting. How exactly?

[pelmen_ka]

pelmen_ka, caso myvac 20

[iG8R]

iG8R, Thank you!

[Tatyana]

Tatyana, I constantly evacuate food with liquid in a container: salad with marinade, kebab with marinade. You just need to make sure that the valve inside the container lid does not reach the products, once my pump pumped liquid into itself in this way (I have a manual CASO pistol and their containers). I pumped so much that the liquid poured out of the hole in the case (maybe it was specially made for this ...). But nothing, lay on the battery, dry out and use it again.

melanya, Hello. Now I want to ask you about your pistol Cas. How do you think it will fit containers from Redmond 21
I already understood, I found the answer

pelmen_ka, caso myvac 20

Thank you. What difficulties arise when evacuating non-native containers?

[YES]

From 10 Aug in YES good discount on vacuum bags and sealer Redmond

🔗

Vacuum containers concept vd-8200 fresh (2 pcs) - I just bought such containers that are ideal for Caso vacuum sealers. I like it very much.

Vacuum containers concept vd-8200

Can you tell me the size?

Can you tell me the size?

one container for 1 liter and the second for 2.8 liters. Height 7 cm and 13.5 cm respectively. Both are 17.5 x 17.5 cm square, but the inner size is 1 cm smaller, as there is a small protrusion for the lid. The date can be set on the cover

[YES]

From 10 Aug in YES good discount on vacuum bags and sealer Redmond

🔗

Yeah. I bought the film today.

Friends, please help me to choose a packer. I choose between Solis Vac Premium and Redmond RVS-M021.
What I like about Solis:
- automatic and manual vacuum and welding modes
- Wet food packaging mode
- pulse mode
- removable container for liquid

Redmond:
- mode of packing wet products, but there is no removable container (?)
- three additional vacuum containers
- only automatic operation

I am leaning towards the first unit so far, but I cannot find any reviews about it.

Solis Vac Premium should appear on the forum one of these days. I hope the hostess will share her impressions and it may be easier to decide.