Vacuum packing machine

Girls tell me where I saw a video where they show how to seal vacuum smooth bags from the metro, I can’t find, I bought such bags and I can’t seal them in any way, there is something like a secret, after all, do you need a tube or something else?

I'm not a girl, but keep the link, if they only let it pass, this is a German, not Russian vidyakha, but from here from the site, and everything is clear there. do not allow links, then we will do something else, go to YouTube and insert into the search - Andrew James hack ...., the first video will be about sealing smooth bags with a straw. I ask the moderator not to swear, I found this video on your forum, but for some reason I cannot add links, although I have been registered here since 2008

[garru]

garru, Thank you

another video on packing smooth bags, I can't insert a link, insert it into YouTube search - Vacuum Seal Smooth Plastic Bags Without Leaving Anything Extra in the Bag -
another original approach

But such no one ordered on Ali

[Vesta]

Vesta, I ordered exactly this. It seems to work, thanks to the raised air intake there is something like a bath where the slurry from the bag gets. However, wet packing is still dumb.
At the beginning of the topic they scolded something like this. Nevertheless, I took it, since my needs are not so great.

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, I have one, too, something did not impress, not ... it pumps out normally, seals it up too well, only I immediately vacuum the batch, and he probably needs to cool down ... (as a budget option, it's okay, well, he needs to understand Whether you do or not, let's say for training, you can adapt ... But it comes with special packages, an expensive consumable.

thanks to the raised air intake, there is something like a bath, where the liquid from the bag gets.

in my opinion this design is in all vacuum equipment of this type (with special bags) and it is not for collecting liquid. It evacuates dry products

It evacuates dry products

Everything is correct. But if you seal the meat for Su-Vid, and it gave a little juice, then a little juice can go into this mini-bath, but not into the pump. Just put it carefully.

I'm not a girl, but keep the link, if they only let it pass, this is a German, not Russian vidyakha, but from here from the site, and everything is clear there. do not allow links, then we will do something else, go to YouTube and insert into the search - Andrew James hack ...., the first video will be about sealing smooth bags with a straw. I ask the moderator not to swear, I found this video on your forum, but for some reason I cannot add links, although I have been registered here since 2008

Thank you very much.

[Vesta]

Vesta, I have one too. Works fine. I ordered it to understand, but I need it ?! While it works, I'll buy another one. I took it for freezing and daily use, everything is fine for now.

[Dmitriy]

Dmitriy, Svetlana, Tatiana Gnezdilova, Thank you! Probably we will order for a trial.

this company has an older model, it is more expensive, but much more interesting, I recommend paying attention, believe me, it's worth it

I ordered myself this
https: //www.aliexpress.co ...? 2114.13010608.0.0.zsYFpa
There is a forum who used this gadget.

May 1 ordered, today they have already brought, I will try tomorrow.

I ordered myself this
There is a forum who used this gadget.

I have this, I wrote above, 4 control buttons, for such a price, this is great, usually, for example, switching - dry wet vacuuming is carried out in more expensive devices, I also liked that the pump and how all the suction of air occurs from the top cover, which with liquid in package completely excludes moisture entering the pump, until I did a lot, but what I tried, I was satisfied, I want to try everything smooth with a cocktail tube, but I can’t find tight packages, I’m in the plans, I ordered a submersible device for sous vide, so while he's on the way I'm in no hurry

ordered a submersible device for sous-vide, so while he's on the way I'm in no hurry

And what and where? Packages from the Metro are normal for 265 rubles. And instead of a tube, I got used to using the strips cut off when opening regular corrugated bags. And I also insert them into old standard packages, otherwise after several uses they also sometimes are poorly evacuated.

I have this, I wrote above, 4 control buttons, for such a price, this is great, usually, for example, switching - dry wet vacuuming is carried out in more expensive devices, I also liked that the pump and how all the suction of air occurs from the top cover, which with liquid in package completely excludes moisture entering the pump, until I did a lot, but what I tried, I was satisfied, I want to try everything smooth with a cocktail tube, but I can’t find tight packages, I’m in the plans, I ordered a submersible device for sous-vide, so while he's on the way I'm in no hurry

Instead of suvid, I have a cartoon of March, and as a circulation, you can use a compressor. for aquarium.

And what and where? Packages from the Metro are normal for 265 rubles. And instead of a tube, I got used to using the strips cut off when opening regular corrugated bags. And I also insert them into old standard packages, otherwise after several uses they also sometimes are poorly evacuated.

What kind of corrugated bags. Do not understand.

[Anna]

Anna, do you insert strips across the entire width or not?

[Anna]

Anna, do you insert strips across the entire width or not?

No, a long strip perpendicular to the sealing line. Like a straw.

What kind of corrugated bags

Those that are directly intended for vacuum equipment, as opposed to smooth Metrovsky.

[olesia32]

olesia32, is there an Onlinetrade store in your city? They have a good packer Zigmund & Shtain Kuchen-Profi VS-505.

in general, I ordered it on April 30th. paid. silence. I called yesterday. Today I received a message that they will deliver home. There is no faith.
ordered in the store 🔗

[Anna]

Anna, I correctly understood that insert and solder a single strip with one seam. Or, like a tube, first one seam, and then with the second seam, as it were, to hide the strip？
Forgive me for asking in such detail, I want to do it right.

And I have another question. When I'm vacuuming juicy foods, I'm always afraid that the camera will flood. How do you get it right?

[Anna]

Anna, I correctly understood that insert and solder a single strip with one seam. Or, like a tube, first one seam, and then with the second seam, as it were, to hide the strip？
Forgive me for asking in such detail, I want to do it right.

And I have another question. When I'm vacuuming juicy foods, I'm always afraid that the camera will flood. How do you get it right?

I solder in one place 2 times just in case. The tube has a hole, this strip does not have one, so there is nothing to hide.
For sous vid, I put food in a regular bag, and only then in a vacuum one. But I have the most primitive Elron.

And it is possible that during heat treatment （suvid） the products come into contact with the usual package？ this is not harmful？
I have Redmond.
I understood about the sealing, thanks, Anya！

And it is possible that during heat treatment （suvid） the products come into contact with the usual package？ this is not harmful？
I have Redmond.
I understood about the sealing, thanks, Anya！

Someone here advised it. The temperature is also low there. Well, you can take baking bags then, they are clearly designed for a higher temperature.

Well, yes, I like it better.
And today we got out of the freezer meat, which was vacuumized several months ago, with spices. I will leave it in the refrigerator until morning, and in the morning I will put it in the Shtebe to see it at 8 o'clock.

saw a German video, where a strip was inserted vertically into a regular bag, but only from the zipped bag, but a long edge remained outside, which was passed outside from the inside ... and the point of this fraud is that at the last moment before the start of sealing, all this the insert is pulled out completely, and the package is already sealed without any inserts.
I want to try everything, but I can't get smooth bags.

I don’t understand ... But how can you pull out this strip at the last moment if it is inside, in the cell? Or have I misunderstood?

[Anna1957]

Anna1957, you asked what and where the device for the sous-vide I ordered, the Klarstein Quickstick Sous-Vide device, since they do not allow me to send links, write this in the search on the site
ShopoTam is a service for buying goods abroad, at first I ordered then read reviews, there are many bad ones and they still charge a commission for mediation, in general, I bought and now I'm waiting, but it's up to you to trust them or not, but everywhere it is more expensive, nowhere is less than 9000, but here with all the wrapping and delivery it seems 7100 came out.



Natusichkawhen the lid is open, it is released out through the gap in the middle, then the lid closes and the tail sticks out from the outside, I'll try to find a video



Natusichka, on YouTube, type in the search - Vacuum Seal Smooth Plastic Bags Without Leaving Anything Extra in the Bag, they speak German but everything is clear

[garru]

garru, thanks, I still use Shteba, but I look closely at the submersible. I watched the video without sound (I still don’t know German), but I didn’t understand anything. I saw only that there they also used a strip of a corrugated bag as an alternative.

[Anna1957]

Anna1957, no, corrugated, it shows that it is stretched, it’s like it’s clear there that it will not fit, there is little strength. If you try to pull out

[garru]

garru, I found a video, but there it is in English))

[Anna1957]

Anna1957, no, corrugated, it shows that it is stretched, it’s like it’s clear there that it will not fit, there is little strength. If you try to pull out

Well, yes, I do not pull out, I solder it with it, it does not bother me. I have not yet understood how he does it.
Understood from 2 times))) Inattentively looked just at first.

[Ksarochka]

KsarochkaThank you for an interesting video. (Here the Chinese made a vacuum cleaner, probably looking at such videos, replaced this strip with a permanent metal tongue and that's it. The principle is the same.

[garru]

garru, thank you very much! It is clear, now you just need to try.

[garru]

garru,
I watched the video, several thoughts arose.
It seems to me that it is not at all necessary to use a piece from a zip bag. Most likely, a simple monolithic (not from several threads) cord of the required diameter, one or two, will do.
It is necessary to carefully see if this method is suitable for different types of upper covers of vacuumizers, they can be whole (then pull back) and composite as in the video, then pull up.
And most importantly: you need to soberly understand that when pulled, this cord will slide along two touching sponge rubber gaskets, which can be deformed and damaged over time. I would make the end of the pull-out cord thinner for less harm.
And once again he was convinced that he did the right thing by buying a Chinese vacuum cleaner for smooth bags.

And tell me, please, how to determine that a smooth bag is intended specifically for food and will not harm health when it is heated (sousvid)? And how thick can such bags be used? In general, where do you get them?
I'm already running out of corrugated ones, so I'm thinking.

Natusichka Alternatively, look at 🔗 The firm assured that they are suitable for suvids. Reusable if washed well. I ordered sizes 20 * 30 and 30 * 40 here. But for myself, I realized that the optimal size for a suvid is 160 * 250. Of course, making the smaller ones out of the big ones is no problem.

[Alexander Light1]

Alexander Light1, thanks, I'm already looking. And you buy 160 * 250 from them?
Are you buying corrugated or smooth?

Natusichka. I bought reflex 200 * 300 and 300 * 400. But for rationality it was necessary to cut it by 150 * 200 and solder it. Later I will order 160 * 250. But this is based purely on my needs.

I realized thanks! This is a reliable company, is it possible to pay in advance?

Natusichka Yes, I made an advance payment. There were no problems.

And the most important thing: you need to soberly understand that when pulled out, this cord will slide over two contacting sponge rubber gaskets, which can deform and become damaged over time. I would make the end of the pull-out cord thinner for less harm.

I also thought about this, today I will buy smooth bags in the metro and I will try, and so that the gum does not wear off, I think to try the same cuts from the bags on 2 sides, they will act as a gasket, and there will be no rubbing on the rubber

on 2 sides the same cuts from packages,

And then it is not necessary to pull out, with scraps (but from regular corrugated bags) and so it is evacuated and sealed.

with cuttings (but from regular corrugated bags) and so it is evacuated and sealed.

It's a little different here. Corrugated bags can be composed of different layers, and each layer can be made of different plastics (polyethylene, polypropylene, polyamide, polyethylene terephthalate ...). And different polymers have different melting points, so a PE layer on one film may melt, but, for example, a PA layer on another may not, and then soldering will not occur. I did it during the week of owning Ellrona 50.
You can, of course, play with the soldering time, maybe in different evacuators there are different heating temperatures - this should be looked at in each specific case.
And you may well be that the films are homogeneous, therefore everything grows together. And if you buy other packages, you may get unwanted results.

[Igor]

Igor, I see, thanks. I still have 3 options: regular ones, bought on Ozone, on Ali (corrugation on the 1st side, the second is smooth) and smooth ones from Metro. So I play with them. Non-waste attracts, otherwise at first the used packages flew straight into the trash, but now I spend much more economically.

Let me tell you what I did, bought smooth bags in the metro, I had a vacuum cleaner, I already wrote which one, stupidly threw a piece of cheese, inserted a piece of corrugated cheese from the correct bag, pressed the button, pulled out the insert at the last moment, everything turned out without problems. but even when I didn't pull it out, everything worked out well too ... it works like that, and so, try gentlemen, we'll see what will be better and how
p.s they don't let me post links, if someone was interested, then what I wrote, click the thank you button from the left, maybe this is the case, there are interesting videos, but I can't post it, like I'm a beginner

[Igrig]

Igrig, Igor, help, my green friend is not sucking anything ((((, I already inserted the jar from the back, it does not help. What could be my mistake? Should the black seal be removed or not?

Should the black seal be removed or not?

Do not clean up under any circumstances! It is used to compress the two sides of the bag to ensure that no air can enter the bag!
And you insert the nipple between the walls? That is, inside the package!
And one more thing: there may be such a mistake: the products in the package must be placed as close as possible to the nipple and squeeze the package behind the products with your hands in order to squeeze out air bubbles, otherwise there will be a large distance in front of the nipple only one package, and the walls of the package in front of the nipple may stick together and pump out air around the product will not be.
The can, it seems to me, slightly reduces the suction capacity ...

Igor, thank you. I did everything right, because it worked on the meter package, uh, I don't understand why he didn't like his own package), now I will learn to solder. Do not understand why the sealing light is on, hold the key until it goes out?

Do not understand why the sealing light is on, hold the key until it goes out?

Until a quick "beep" begins.

[Csscandle]

Csscandle, sometimes it also does not suck - you have to make sure that it snaps into place with a click. I sometimes open it one at a time and click it. But I have Elron.