Belka13
Yuri, so Ozone is praised by those who have cheap delivery. The distant regions, of course, have a hard time in this regard. For example, other online stores do not deliver to us for less than 200-300 rubles.
pushkar
Quote: garru
And well, a toad chokes me, buy expensive source materials, here the vacuumator was discussed above, which works, but only with smooth bags, I climbed for an hour on Ali, and found it for 4500 and ordered it, by the way there is also for 4200, but this model is without a can, for preservation, not so, if there is liquid in the bag, it is collected in this container, now you have to get rid of the new-old vacuum unit, but at least the toad will not bother, because each corrugated bag, what I saw is 8.5 rubles, and 10-15-20 ... I can’t leave links, I’m not razrkshkeno, but if anyone is interested, write, either in a personal message, or I’ll think of something. Somehow, the topic of purchasing bags, these tubes, woven materials was immediately eased, and already with a smile I look at the posts about the search for reasonable packages, may the owners of such forgive me
Throw in a personal link to me, I'll see.





Quote: Belka13
Yuri, so Ozone is praised by those who have cheap delivery. The distant regions, of course, have a hard time in this regard. For example, other online stores do not deliver to us for less than 200-300 rubles.
But under the nickname it is written who is from which cities, so they would write. It's just that time passes and the offices change their method of work, looking for other ways to make money.
Belka13
Yuri, the name of the city says little. For example, I have no idea how much it costs to deliver Ozone even in Moscow, let alone in other cities. Of course, it is more convenient for you to receive packages and other small things from Ali. And sometimes I am too lazy to wait 2 months when something is needed urgently. Does WB deliver to your city? They seem to have free shipping at all. True, from the packages I only saw Redmond ones there. But they are also not very expensive. In addition, this store sends promotional codes for a discount every day.
pushkar
Please tell me how to use. this tube, it is clear that vacuumization in cans. What kind of containers, where to get it and is it possible to adapt another way. Vacuum packing machine




Quote: Belka13
Does WB deliver to your city?
You should also know where this store is, not on their website. Give a reference.
Belka13
Yuri, and this is an online store. Type and choose your city. There is a pick-up point in Severodvinsk, but I can't look at the delivery terms - it's inconvenient from the phone.
I think this hose will work for zip bags too.
pushkar
Quote: Belka13

Yuri, and this is an online store. Type and choose your city. There is a pick-up point in Severodvinsk, but I can't look at the delivery terms - it's inconvenient from the phone.
Thank you, I'll take a look.
olaola1
Now there is a 5% discount on 20x600 Redmond rolls, the initial price is 550 rubles, + a buyer's discount (if any). I have a 15% discount - a total of 486 rubles. for 1 roll. I figured that even taking into account the delivery, it is cheaper for me to buy rolls Status on Ozone, of course, if the order amount is more than 1500 rubles.
pushkar
Quote: pushkar
Quote: Belka13 from Today at 09:49 AM
Yuri, this is an online store. Type and choose your city. There is a pick-up point in Severodvinsk, but I can't look at the delivery terms - it's inconvenient from the phone.
Thank you, I'll take a look.
I went in, looked and ooo-25 pieces at a price of 740, let them pack themselves. and that's just one position.




Quote: olaola1
Now on rolls 20x600 Redmond for a 5% discount, the initial price is 550 rubles, + buyer's discount (if any). I have a 15% discount - a total of 486 rubles. for 1 roll. I figured that even taking into account the delivery, it is cheaper for me to buy rolls Status on Ozone, naturally if the order amount is more than 1,500 rubles.
Where did you find the rolls.
Scored in a search on the site-food. vacuum packages-writes nothing.
garru
Quote: Igrig

You read messages from 4453 to 4457. I was almost lying there at my feet, convincing me to buy the device ...
I think, in theory, the seller will probably continue to arrange rides of unprecedented generosity. It's up to you to decide: wait for the minimum price or buy and use.
Dear, well, if the device is worthwhile, it is not at all necessary to take it from this seller, find it from another ... it's all simple now




Quote: Svetlana777

I also studied both of these models before buying, looking for the difference (the green one won by the presence of the jar ... though I haven't used it yet ... but the main thing is it is ...
As for the sealing in n2, everything is thoroughly and thoroughly described. ...
I also reviewed many options, checked the parameters, usually everywhere they write the absorption in different ways, 0.45, 0.65, 0.8, for some reason the green ones write more, "Where is the brother really?"
it is a pity, such a device is good, and the vacuum level is almost half less,
although everything seems fine from the video
Ksarochka
pushkar, I am not confusing anything. I tell you how it is more profitable to buy for me. They also talked about the cost of packages on Ali. And how to buy more profitable for you is up to you too. I do not have a minimum order value for Ozone, but I still bought packages in the amount of more than 2000 rubles. I see no reason to buy one package at a time, even with a low shipping cost.
pushkar
Quote: Ksarochka

pushkar, I am not confusing anything. I tell you how it is more profitable to buy for me. They also talked about the cost of packages on Ali. And how to buy more profitable for you is up to you too. I do not have a minimum order value for Ozone, but I still bought packages in the amount of more than 2000 rubles. I see no reason to buy one package at a time, even with a low shipping cost.
I just bought the device, so even so far there is no clear understanding of where to spend packages except as a sous view, well, and something for storage. Maybe they will explain to me what you can do and use with them, when you buy 2 or more thousand packages.
Belka13
Yuri, type "vacuum bags" - you will see the Redmond bags. Put them in your shopping cart and track the cost. Almost every day I receive email notifications about promotions with discounts, often 25%. I took them for 361 rubles. In my opinion, this is a good price. Or look for Status packages. They come at a good price in Or in the joint venture here on the forum. CDEK, in my opinion, also does not charge much for delivery.
But in general it is not worth hoping that the packages will be very cheap.
pushkar
Quote: Belka13
But in general it is not worth hoping that the packages will be very cheap.
Nobody even hopes for it. but 50 pcs. at the price of 650 or 100 for ali for 800 - there is a difference





Quote: Belka13
Yuri, type "vacuum bags" - you will see Redmond bags. Put them in your shopping cart and track the cost. Almost every day I receive email notifications about promotions with discounts, often 25%. I took them for 361 rubles. In my opinion, this is a good price. Or look for Status packages. They come at a good price in Or in the joint venture here on the forum. CDEK, in my opinion, also does not charge much for delivery.
I will follow your advice.
olaola1
Quote: pushkar
Where did you find the rolls.
Bad looking. They called them packages.
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Ksarochka
Quote: pushkar
when buying 2 or more thousand packages.
Did I write about 2000 packages? I was talking about an order of 2,000 rubles. If this is 2 times 800 rubles, then 1600 rubles are already coming out. And if you take several sizes at least for the package, then not so many packages are obtained for 2,000 rubles. I also bought them for a sous view and for storage.
Belka13
You also need to take into account the quality of the packages. Some are thin, some have corrugation on one side only. I didn't order on Ali, so I don't know what their quality is. I use consumables from Caso, Redmond, Status, Gochu, Zigmund & Stein. I like everyone.
Vlad_Ru
Quote: pushkar
Please tell me how to use. this tube, it is clear that vacuumization in cans. What kind of containers, where to get it and is it possible how to adapt another method
This is a hose for vacuum containers, I know for sure fit to STATUS.

Quote: Belka13
Some are thin, some have corrugation on one side only.I didn't order on Ali, so I don't know what their quality is.
ordered these on Ali


work normally, corrugation is one-sided
pushkar
Quote: Vlad_Ru
This is a hose for vacuum containers, I know for sure fit to STATUS.
Thank you so much
Vlad_Ru
pushkarHow do you like your device?
After CASO 300 I had problems with it.
pushkar
Quote: Vlad_Ru

pushkarHow do you like your device?
After CASO 300 I had problems with it.
So I just got it yesterday. while the vegetables are sealed in those that are included, sealed perfectly, like a stone. I ordered smooth bags on Ali.
Vlad_Ru
Quote: pushkar
So I just got it yesterday. while the vegetables are sealed in those that are included, sealed perfectly, like a stone.
I could not cope with the side latches as normal

Quote: pushkar
I ordered smooth packages for Ali.
But can he really use smooth without a "tambourine"? like only grooved ones were mentioned
pushkar
Quote: Vlad_Ru

I could not cope with the side latches as normal
But can he really use smooth without a "tambourine"? like only grooved ones were mentioned
Of course with a tambourine, but after all there is only to catch the moment and everything, further along the knurled one.
Vlad_Ru
Quote: pushkar
Of course with a tambourine, but after all there is only to catch the moment and everything, further along the knurled
Well then we are waiting for the results
all @
Who has a green device, answer me. Do you think REDMOND packages can work for him? I have a branded magician. close by. Do not offer "Meter". Neither get there nor walk. And Ali is long.




pushkar, Yuri, is Arkhangelsk far away?

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pushkar
Quote: all @
pushkar, Yuri, is Arkhangelsk far away?
40 Kilometers




Tell me where to read. how to properly evacuate food, I just thought I put it in a bag and vacuum, but it turns out they need to be blanched and some frozen, process technology is needed.
garru
Quote: olaola1

Bad looking. They called them packages.
I followed your link from the Yandex browser, a line popped up from above with a hint about the lowest price for this product, it's 399 rubles, followed the link, this is a media market store, of course it is not everywhere, I did not look about delivery, but suddenly who will be interested
I'm talking about vacuum bags RAM-VR01, REDMOND





I also recommend that you go to see, you can't send me the link, type in Yandex - agrozavod ru, the first line will be what you need, the section - Household vacuum sealers and vacuum bags, very funny prices, they sell 3 rubles a package by the piece, and it is for vacuuming, this just as an example, there are 100 pieces too, tried to figure out the delivery, there are a lot of senders, but there is a calculator, we need weight and volume, and how do I know this about packages, well, who needs to figure it out
pushkar
Quote: garru
I also recommend that you go to see, you can't send me the link, type in Yandex - agrozavod ru, the first line will be what you need, the section - Household vacuum sealers and vacuum bags, very funny prices, they sell 3 rubles a package by the piece, and it is for vacuuming, this just as an example, there are 100 pieces too, tried to figure out the delivery, there are a lot of senders, but there is a calculator, we need weight and volume, and how do I know this about packages, well, who needs to figure it out
It's kind of a worthwhile proposition. straighten and overlay, transp. comp. and by mail.
garru
Quote: pushkar

I just bought the device, so even so far there is no clear understanding of where to spend packages except as a sous view, well, and something for storage. Maybe they will explain to me what you can do and use with them, when you buy 2 or more thousand packages.
You are new, your hands are itching to do something, but there is nothing to do? I totally agree, let's try to offer it as an option, I now have 3 bags with vacuumized meat in my refrigerator, for ham, sausage, and just a piece of flank, but of course nitrite salt is needed here, and for a ham smell, the meat should mature, really, pay attention on sous-vid, well, you mentioned it, it is very interesting to me, and there will be work for the device




Quote: pushkar





Tell me where to read. how to properly evacuate food, I just thought I put it in a bag and vacuum, but it turns out they need to be blanched and some frozen, process technology is needed.
Have you tried watching the video? All the same, that information is assimilated better, just don't look at grandmothers or housewives, there are several pros, including meat technologists, it's like at a lecture at an institute. As an example, Dmitry Frezka, he is not a technologist, but a very competent person, there is a technologist from the site of sausages ru, they of course push ads, well, you have to endure, there is still a competent peasant, in his comments you can find a photo of black and white with a beard, I don’t remember his nickname, the same professional technologist, start with Frazers, the amount of information you need just goes off scale
pushkar
Quote: garru
Have you tried watching the video? All the same, that information is assimilated better, just don't look at grandmothers or housewives, there are several pros, including meat technologists, it's like at a lecture at an institute. As an example, Dmitry Frezka, he is not a technologist, but a very competent person, there is a technologist from the site of sausages ru, they of course push ads, well, you have to endure, there is still a competent peasant, in his comments you can find a photo of black and white with a beard, I don’t remember his nickname, the same professional technologist, start with Frazers, the amount of information you need just goes off scale
My dear man, everything has been revised for a long time, and I know and read almost all significant bloggers and chefs, I have watched and I have videos, the fresco has its entire channel downloaded, I will post you a screen of my folders, what is on the disk, what is in the favorites and draw a conclusion ...
But I didn't find anywhere near Fresco that vegetables should be blanched. What am I talking about. I sealed the carrots in the refrigerator, and then I see and read that they need to blanch, that's where the question comes from.




Quote: garru
the amount of information you need is off the charts
I need infa for packing vegetables
garru
I need infa for packing vegetables
Quote: pushkar


The first time I hear about it, while there is no time, but it's also interesting, I'll try to look later, but if you come across, throw it then.






even though the message went wrong, but I think you will understand
GALLAACTIC
Quote: pushkar
It's kind of a worthwhile proposition. straighten and overlay, transp. comp. and by mail.
And for some reason I did not find about mail there .... No transport except mail does not suit me, unfortunately.
pushkar
Quote: GALLAKTIKA

And for some reason I did not find about mail there .... No transport except mail does not suit me, unfortunately.
Right here
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garru
stunned, ordered on Friday 19.05 for Ali Vacuum Packer DZ-280 / 2SE, well, the one that can pack smooth packages without dancing with a tambourine, the courier has already called, lucky, but delivery from Russia is therefore so fast, they will also deliver home, and as in an anecdote, this news is good, but there is also bad news, it has now become 500 rubles cheaper on the site, 4,006.79 rubles, well, who knew that? I will torture him now.
all @
garru, Congratulations. Let it work well and please. It's not clear why you were in a hurry? After all, they wrote what could be bought for 2800. I myself saw $ 52. But while I was thinking, it became $ 90 And in two weeks, $ 57.

Yuri, I gave you a link to REDMOND in Arkhangelsk. Let it be, just in case.
pushkar
Quote: all @
Yuri, I gave you the link to REDMOND in Arkhangelsk. Let it be, just in case.
Thank you, already postponed.
garru
Quote: all @

garru, Congratulations. Let it work well and please. It's not clear why you were in a hurry? After all, they wrote what could be bought for 2800. I myself saw $ 52. But while I was thinking, it became $ 90 And in two weeks, $ 57.
tried to find where you wrote about it failed, if it is not difficult to duplicate it again? here my friends are interested.
P.S. no longer needed, went to the page where he bought it and the price there is less than 2800. insulting.
GALLAACTIC
Quote: pushkar
Right here
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Yuri, Thank you! I had to look 100,500 times until I found it in the beginning in small print about the mail! I then immediately shifted down to the table listing the TC. And there about the mail, no, no!
pushkar
Quote: GALLAKTIKA
Yuri, thank you! I had to look 100,500 times until I found it in the beginning in small print about the mail! I then immediately shifted down to the table listing the TC. And there about the mail, no, no!
Good luck with your order
Chef
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iG8R
Dear members of the forum and members of the forum, tell me in which Metro in Kiev you can buy packages for vacuumizing HoReCa Select, which are discussed here? Visited 2, but none of the workers had ever heard of such packages.
Shl. Is it just me with this forum that the "Print" button has disappeared somewhere, so that you can immediately see all the messages and find the one you need by Ctrl + F?
Vesta
iG8R, at the top is a panel with different icons and on the right is a green printer, this is printing.
iG8R
Vesta, Thank you. I just had to refresh the page after logging into my account, then I got this icon. And before that it was without him. Unfortunately, the link to the screenshot is forbidden for me as a beginner to publish.




For those who are looking for corrugated bags at a normal price in Kiev or Ukraine. Searched for by the name "Vacuum bags in a roll corrugated Besser Vacuum R 30x600", price 105 UAH. In Kiev at the address - st. Garmatnaya, 6 (m. Shulyavka), Kiy-V firm.
iG8R
Dear members of the forum and members of the forum, tell me, what is the thickness of the film for Horeca packages from the Metro?
The fact is that in my area I found smooth vacuum bags at a very attractive price, but they are 60 microns. I tried to use them together with a straw, as well as by breaking the side edges - these packages are extremely poorly evacuated, the air is sucked out, but not to the same extent as when using corrugated ones. Plus, there is no stability in the process - it turns out once the first time, and there are times that even though you crack, you do not want to either evacuate or seal tightly in any way.
I also tried smooth bags of 100 microns, here they are much better suited - every time it turns out the first time and evacuate and seal, but, again, there is no such strong evacuation as with corrugated bags. And it's not very pleasant that their price does not differ so much from corrugated ones, by only 25%, and even then, if I buy corrugated ones, I can buy at least 6 meters, but I can buy smooth bags at least 300 meters (they sell at least 1000 pcs each), which, with such a small difference in price, completely negates any advantages of smooth over corrugated ones.
But at 80 microns I did not manage to get it for a test, therefore, in fact, I am asking about the meter packets.




Shl. We managed to test "Vacuum bags in roll corrugated Besser Vacuum R 30x600". As it turned out, they are one-sided, that is, only one side is corrugated in a box, the other is smooth. But they perform their function in the same way as branded ones - they are perfectly and very tightly evacuated and well sealed.
Natusichka
iG8R, I can't find it, there is only 20x60.
Please give me a link in a personal.
Thurtle
iG8R, on the packaging not a word about the thickness. Maybe GOST will tell: 12302-83
telez
Oh, I'll tell you! When I go to my mother-in-law (which is 900 km from Moscow), I bring sausage, carbonate, etc. to the hotel, so I cut it into pieces and vacuum it so that it can be stored longer. And I ask my mother-in-law not to throw these packages away. And then they went to the commemoration, and gave everyone handkerchiefs and sweets for commemoration in bags. One bag looked like a vacuum one, but not corrugated. Well, the mother-in-law also says, they say, this will not suit you, looks like? I say no, it's not like that. And husband: such a bag must be evacuated through a tube! Here is an expert! How does he know, huh? Looks like peeping when I'm on the forum, in the know of all our "technologies"!
Natusichka
On a tip iG8R bought vacuum bags at a more or less normal price. The only negative is that they cannot be used for sous vide, the temperature regime is not suitable.
Well, nothing, it is convenient for me to vacuumize vegetables, fruits, herbs in them. I bought 4 rolls of 6 meters each.

Thanks Igor!
iG8R
Quote: Natusichka
The only negative is that they cannot be used for sous vide, the temperature regime is not suitable.
You are welcome
Hmm, weird, but I had a great experience of Sou-Vid cooking in these packages. The temperature was 142, 143 and 145 degrees Fahrenheit (I have a Vitalex VL-5203 multicopter, which has a temperature scale only in Fahrenheit), it is from 61 to 63 degrees Celsius.
By the way, here is a great resource on Su-Vid scienceandcooking.seas.h arvard.edu/outline.html
Puuh
Guys, help out
Where are the most interesting prices for rolls now? Where are the sales?
Thank you very much in advance
Natusya
Quote: Puuh

Guys, help out
Where are the most interesting prices for rolls now? Where are the sales?
Thank you very much in advance
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