Yoghurt maker Brand 4001

Girls, but tell me - Brand does not overheat yoghurts, but the fermentation temperature of the same Genesis sour cream is lower than that of yoghurts, how do you make it in Brand? do you also put something under the glasses? Why, I’m already hysterical, I decided to make sour cream in a mug wrapped in a towel again ...

[Anastasia]

Anastasia, on the first page there are links to my tests, including sour cream ... read
And we already answered about overheating on the previous page.

No, no, thanks, I understood everything! ... I didn’t ask again about whether Brand overheats or not overheats ... I meant that yoghurts do not overheat, but what to do with sour cream Wait, I’ll go read to the first page again!

Well, finally I waited for my yoghurt maker, but alas, my joy was not long. The yogurt maker came with broken glasses. Boom wait two more weeks

After reading the information, I decided to buy this model. ordered and went to pick up. .... was shocked by the opening of the house. for starters, the box was crumpled and torn. when examining the apparatus itself and the glasses and the mechanism for putting on the lids, everything turned out to be normal.
but at home, putting it on a flat surface, she walked from side to side. I was upset .. .. looking at the bottom, I was attentively convinced of its frank curvature, but removing one of the legs practically stopped dangling.
In general, I turned it on, it works, I have already prepared the 2nd batch of yoghurts - the flight is normal.
and here it was not without a surprise .. .. the quality of casting glass of horror glasses - a couple of three of them the bottom from the inside is pimply, that is, when you eat with a spoon, you scrape not on a flat surface, fearing to chop off small pieces of glass.
such an acquaintance took place.
to hand over for now and if it does not break I will not bear it because I was too lazy and the last one was.
and so. .... I arranged the finished product on evitalia. the basin is convenient as a tray.
I realized that this volume is not enough for us and bought a 2nd yogurt maker from another company. I was amazed by the contrast in the quality of the packaging and the apparatus with cans. banks there by the way twist (12 pcs. 200 each).
now happy as an elephant.

Oh, what company did you buy? What is the name of?
And what is the maximum time you can set?

After reading the information, I decided to buy this model. ordered and went to pick up. .... was shocked by the opening of the house. for starters, the box was crumpled and torn. when examining the apparatus itself and the glasses and the mechanism for putting on the lids, everything turned out to be normal.
but at home, putting it on a flat surface, she walked from side to side. I was upset .. .. looking at the bottom, I was attentively convinced of its frank curvature, but removing one of the legs practically stopped dangling.
In general, I turned it on, it works, I have already prepared the 2nd batch of yoghurts - the flight is normal.
and here it was not without a surprise .. .. the quality of casting glass of horror glasses - a couple of three of them the bottom from the inside is pimply, that is, when you eat with a spoon, you scrape not on a flat surface, fearing to chop off small pieces of glass.
such an acquaintance took place.
to hand over for now and if it does not break I will not bear it because I was too lazy and the last one was.
and so. .... I arranged the finished product on evitalia. the basin is convenient as a tray.
I realized that this volume is not enough for us and bought a 2nd yogurt maker from another company. I was amazed by the contrast in the quality of the packaging and the apparatus with cans. banks there by the way twist (12 pcs. 200 each).
now happy as an elephant.

Good day! Can you upload a photo with a defect on the site? For 2 years of sales of yogurt maker 4001 - for the first time we meet a similar problem, with the curvature of the bottom. And a photo of glasses with a defect? In which online store in Moscow did you order it? We offer you free replacement for all defective parts and cups.Can you bring your sample to us in the SC, which is located at: Egoryevsky proezd 2.?

......... realized that this volume is not enough for us and bought the 2nd yoghurt maker from another company. I was amazed by the contrast in the quality of the packaging and the apparatus with cans. banks there by the way twist (12 pcs. 200 each).
now happy as an elephant.

what kind of yogurt maker is this? (can be in a personal, if this topic is not allowed)

[Denis BR]

Denis BR, I also have a yogurt maker swinging - the bottom is not the bottom, but the legs are slightly different in length. But for me it was not a big defect, in fact, I don't even consider it a problem, so, a small jamb. Everything else is no complaints so far and I like the yogurt maker

[Gata]

I have the same thing, it stands unevenly, well, I don’t touch her. I seem to have one leg shorter than the others in the yogurt maker, so it staggers. but like Gata, I do not consider this a defect

: girl-th: collective hypnosis or something .... everyone is happy with everything, which shouldn't suit at such a cost of goods ... it's not 500-600 r worth after all .... It's a shame when everything started so well ...

no, no hypnosis. just when there really is a problem, it is solved. And I know that this is so (it was the case). And this time we do not consider it a problem, and we do not ask questions

I apologize for not answering right away. only checked the mail. I'll post a photo today.
bought in
and the other vitesse 412. maximum time 15h. power 21.5

[Boyaka's cat]

Boyaka's cat, it just really doesn't bother me - she stands on the window and I don't touch her, and when I don't touch her, she doesn't stagger. You can put something under this leg and it will stand upright. And this in no way prevents the device from performing its direct functions - making yogurt. I took it for this. My glasses are even, the lids close well, there are no cracks anywhere. I already wrote about the instructions. Now if all the legs were different or the bottom was straight and crooked, I would change it because it would interfere with making yogurt normally. And so, it's really not a problem, it's really just a small joint.

something like this. removed the rubber leg 1.
take a picture of glasses - they are now busy with the product, but you still can't see it ..... it's to the touch with a finger or a spoon.
the top disc on the lid does not sit tightly on the daters, as a result of which the set number is scrolled, not critical.

Until it breaks down the point of going I do not see the other end of Moscow, thanks for the offer.
I hope it won't break!

[Girls, I have a question for you. Do you have this?]

Girls, I have a question for you. Do you have this? For me this is not a problem, I just wondered how others did it.
I do on Evitalia. The yogurt comes out without whey, everything is great. I make it with 6% milk, so I get it as thick as I like. But now I see that the yogurt clot seems to be moving away from the walls of the glass in some places. Is this normal or am I overdoing yogurt? I tried to set less time, it turns out the same.
I love my yoghurt maker very, very much. I can't live without it, but yesterday the yogurt ran out and I can't live without it, as something is missing. I played a new batch at night and in the morning I was happy again. I ate cottage cheese with yogurt in the afternoon.
And about the legs, so for me this is not a problem either. My bread machine also has one leg shorter than the others, so I put a cut out piece of some kind of soft packaging under this leg. I don't move her from her place, so she has been working for 8 years, although she turned out to be lame.

[........ I see that the yogurt clot seems to move away from the walls of the glass in some places. Is this normal or am I overdoing yogurt? I tried to set less time, it turns out the same.]

........ I see that the yogurt clot seems to move away from the walls of the glass in some places. Is this normal or am I overdoing yogurt? I tried to set less time, it turns out the same.

Irina, if it turns out the same in less time, it means that your yogurt is READY during this time, why keep it longer? Try to keep it even less than when "you tried to keep it less, it turns out the same way"))))) And yet, when it thickens, measure the temperature in the jars, while not yet pulled out of the yogurt maker. I happily caught the last batch of the moment when there weren't even "wrinkles" from the bottom, but there was already a clot ...and before that there was no serum on top, how many batches I did, but with vertical wrinkles from the bottom it turned out ... Yogurt starts to gain temperature as soon as it thickens ... although up to this point everything may be fine with the temperature ... Try Not to check exactly at the moment of readiness ... maybe this will clarify something ...

with vertical wrinkles from the bottom it turned out ..

As correctly noted about wrinkles.
And I have nothing to check the temperature, I don't have such a thermometer. The most important thing is that yoghurt turns out well, so then let these wrinkles be, since they are not only in my yoghurt.

a wine thermometer costs 60 rubles ...

[Boyaka's cat]

Boyaka's cat, Thank you ! You have to buy and check.

something like this. removed the rubber leg 1.
take a picture of glasses - they are now busy with the product, but you still can't see it ..... it's to the touch - with a finger or a spoon.
the top disc on the lid does not fit snugly on the daters, as a result of which the set number is scrolled, not critical.

until it breaks down the point of going to the other end of Moscow, thanks for the offer.
I hope it won't break!

The bottom plastic base in the photo, when visually assessed, is really a little skewed, we are ready to replace the base if you want.

then entirely, now only the foundation. ......
oh well, everything is fine for now. if anything - I'll contact you :-)
thanks again.

Today I took my yogurt maker, the first inspection showed that when the yoghurt maker was turned on, 06 was displayed on the timer, but I understand that this does not interfere with making yoghurt, and the lid does not fit well to the base, there are gaps. I will check the rest in the process of making yogurt, I hope that the yogurt will work out

The timer displays 06 - right! This is the default time, the most common for yoghurt sourdough, and can be changed. At the end of the timer, heating is switched off.

But what about all the previous parties, when they were first turned on, 00 was displayed? - was the "silence" kept silent?

do not bother with it 06 00
the main thing is that it works and the result suits.

[Denis BR]

Denis BR, thanks for the answer, I just assumed that the manufacturer took care of us consumers, it was just embarrassing that the girls wrote at the beginning of the topic, after turning on the timer, they displayed 00
question: when the yogurt maker goes into standby mode, can it be turned off only from the outlet or does it turn off somehow differently?
I wanted to say about the lids on the glasses, not all the lids were tightly closed for me, but after I held them for 10-15 seconds before using them for a couple, they began to close the glasses very tightly (but this is my personal feeling)

when the yogurt maker goes into standby mode, can it be turned off only from the outlet or does it turn off somehow differently?

Aha, from the socket

And on the lid I have such a gap

[Manna]

Manna, Thank you

such a gap

Pretty decent. There may be heat loss. I advise you to pay attention to this during fermentation.

And on the lid I have such a gap

The temperature range at which lacto and bifidobacteria develop is from 37C to 42C, if you ferment yogurt in the device at room temperature, it will turn out even with small gaps in the lid.

Girls - after reading all the pages of this topic and I decided to buy this model. What I did yesterday - since it was “burning” to make yogurt for me right there at night, and I didn't bother to buy sourdoughs in advance - then, having stopped by the pharmacy, I could only buy dry pressed powder in an ampoule:



After reading that it is still better to make a sourdough out of it, since for many, if you immediately add it to milk without sourdough, it does not thicken - I brought homemade milk to a boil - I cooled it down and fermented 1 ampoule of narine in one jar from the yogurt maker.In the rest, since I really wanted to try the yogurt maker, I went and bought it and added natural activity (850 g which is a bottle) - I spread 170 g for all the other jars, that is, for 1,200 liters of milk:



The yogurt maker itself - after reading this whole Temka - I checked it even when I received it at the point of issue of orders - the legs are all even - the top lid has no gaps, the lids of the jars themselves close tightly - I haven't removed the label yet (until I tried it):



When turned on, it showed the numbers 06, but it was absolutely all the same to me - I added the time as I needed (the buttons are sensitive - everything is pressed normally). I set the time to 8 hours (for the experiment - then I decided to correct it depending on the taste, yes, and I would not have woken up to clean it before) In the morning I took it out (the rest are already in the refrigerator):



I measured the temperature immediately:



The thermometer is lying by 0.5 degrees - checked by numerous comparisons with 3 mercury ones - it turns out at the exit after 8 hours - the temperature is 42.5 degrees. It turns out overheating ??? And will all the beneficial bacteria I plan to do later be killed?
The product itself: What was from Narine's sourdough - as soon as it was taken out of the yogurt maker - did not differ much in consistency from milk. I put it in the refrigerator - now it's been 4 hours - the leaven has remained like milk.
The yogurt itself (on Activia) is homogeneous in consistency - the photo shows that it is thick - the thermometer is even when it has not been put into the fridge - now I tried it - it tastes excellent, delicate and thick. Tastes like natural French or Dutch natural yogurt :-) Made on the advice of Mona1 Tanyusha with blueberry jam and frozen strawberries - just aoooooooooooo delicious.
The only thing now I'm worried is that the temperature after 8 hours is 42.5 ...

so I had the thought that yoghurts begin to gain temperature as they thicken - the density may also increase because of the heat, I don't know how to describe it ... it turns out that the finished product overheats for this reason even in Brand ...
Maybe someone else from Brand's owners in the end take the temperature? This is hardly an isolated case ...

It did not affect the taste at all :-) but is it a strong overheating for bacteria?

Next time - I will do it during the day and measure every hour - then I will unsubscribe.

It did not affect the taste at all :-) but is it a strong overheating for bacteria?

Taste is the second thing. Well, if we consider the aspect of usefulness-liveliness ... Whether the bacteria is alive or not depends on the specific leaven. The temperature limits for all starter cultures are different. Look about your ...

Here are the yoghurts from Genesis. It can be seen that here the first one is not afraid of your temperature, the other two are obviously not much fun ...
Yogurt 40 - 45
Bioyogurt 36 - 38
Bifidoacidophilic yogurt 36 - 40

yoghurts from Lactin 38-42 deg

yogurt from Vivo 36-42 deg
and if you decide to make NOT yogurt, but something else, then look at the temperatures here, for example: рф / prigotovlenie /

yoghurts from Lactin 38-42 deg

we have only found these on sale.
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Yogurt 40 - 45

is it a leaven or is it simply meant on Activia which?

No, this is YOGURT from Genesis. They have four different yoghurts in their line, differing in the composition of bacteria. Yogurt, Bioyogurt, Acidophilic Yogurt, and Bifidoacidophilic Yogurt. I buy in Rostov

so I had the thought that yoghurts begin to gain temperature as they thicken - the density may also increase because of the heat, I don't know how to describe it ... it turns out that the finished product overheats for this reason even in Brand ...
Maybe someone else from Brand's owners in the end take the temperature? This is hardly an isolated case ...

When I bought it, I also measured it, I just put the thermometer in the jar and walked around, looked, and all this is in different jars, so now I know a lot about this
Yes, at the end the temperature rises slightly, possibly due to the density. Therefore, I do less time, yoghurt, etc. reach in the switched off yoghurt maker, like in a thermos.In addition, if you turn it off early (or set a shorter time), wrinkles do not rise from the bottom, that is, it turns out just the very thing and does not stretch

I bought this one today:



Like at 42 it is possible. Maybe then it's not so scary what heats up so much? Tanya also taught me how to lower the temperature :-).

Today I experimented again - I made yogurt on Lactin - everything worked out - the temperature of 42 turns out to be only in the central jar (I bought a special thermometer for liquid and measured it exactly) - the first hours of 38 degrees, then when I took out 42 in the central and 40 in all the others.

Well, it's good that everything works out! True, we are now sitting on bioyogurt, and for him I would be upset for such a temperature ... in my yogurt maker + timer at the end the temperature in the central bank is 3 degrees lower than in the brand, and around the perimeter is less than 38 ... if you make other yoghurts, you also cannot do without mugs made of cloth napkins or cardboard ...

Uf. We'll have to put it then) while we gorge ourselves on yoghurts)

Good day everyone! A story with a good ending or how I became the owner of a Brand 4001 yogurt maker ........
Finally, I have joined your slender ranks !!! I now also have this miracle!
I shoveled mountains of information, read the forum inside and out, counted on my fingers and a couple of months ago I started making yoghurts at home. And the family began to crack more ...: lol: therefore, saving is not working, but we are getting healthier (at least, I hope so!)
My relatives got tired of looking at my throwing with saucepans and thermoses and they decided to please me and give me a yogurt maker ... Only Brand 4001! - I said.
And then it began .. Naturally, there were no such yogurt makers in the shops of our city at the moment. Parents ordered through the online store. The beauty came in 5 days ... The box is in the trash ... there is no styrofoam inside .. it seems like nothing .. Thanks to the sellers in the store, they sent me home for testing. Once she regularly prepared yogurt, and then it began .. Her "electronic brain" boiled up and she began to live her life ... You turn it on, set the time - after a couple of minutes, it resets to 06 (the initial time on the scoreboard), red and the green indicator, the power button began to work even with a light touch to it, etc., etc. Apparently during transportation it was "not weakly" dropped. She shoveled the yogurt maker into a pile and rode to the store. The money was returned without question.
Well, everything is itchy everywhere! You are waiting for her, she came, once cooked yogurt and that's it !!!! Where's the justice???
I went shopping and lo and behold !!! Just delivered !!! Well, what's a little more expensive! In short, we bought it. My husband went to the store to choose, I'm sitting with the child in the car, they say I'm a man, I know better, I'll choose the right one .... took the last one from the exhibition .. we come home .. I get it ... but she doesn't have one leg ... My poor husband could not understand why I am so laughing .. In short, he made me a leg of rubber pads. And for a week now, from morning to night and from night to morning, we have been preparing and consuming yoghurts with dry starter cultures (Vivo, ArtLife, Laktina, yogulact ..) And the second yogurt maker (the last one) was clearly from a different batch, since the display initially lit 00 not 06 and the cooking signal is slightly different. The lids on the cups are much denser than the first. But both the one and the other have all the cups even, without defects ... Why am I writing all this:
1. Many thanks to all !!!! Only thanks to you I became the proud owner of this miracle !!! Girls, you are such great fellows that you describe in detail your experiences, impressions ... I want to buy a really useful thing, and not throw money down the drain .. but how to do it without wise and experienced advisers?
2. Those who will purchase similar yogurt makers with delivery to other cities of our vast country. Check everything carefully !!! At the slightest suspicion of a fall of this device, it is better not to take it or immediately stipulate the possibility of a return.
3. Dear Brand representatives! Maybe it's styrofoam after all?
So I'm thinking of buying an alcohol thermometer ... and in our city they are on fire in the afternoon .... I've already run around all the household items .. again, perhaps through the Internet to order?

So I'm thinking of buying an alcohol thermometer ... and in our city they are on fire in the afternoon .... I've already run around all the household items .. again, perhaps through the Internet to order?

Here's where you have it on sale:
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Anyuta, thank you very much! This is what one head is good and the collective mind of HP is better! For beer - it will be too small (up to 40 degrees), but for canning - that's it! I will call if there is any available ..

[Mona1]

For beer - it will be too small (up to 40 degrees)

I also thought it was too small when I bought and asked the girls for advice - Tanya Mona1 explained that this is quite enough, since the temperature is higher and is not needed for anything. I still painted the divisions with nail polish and a needle (space allowed there), but they were not really needed :-) The temperature in the yogurt maker is 38 or the maximum - I now measure 40 - I bring milk to 38 - 40, so I don't need more principle :-))

Girls, I made Lactoferm Eco yogurt in our yogurt maker, would you like me to share?

[a]

TOanessa , we want What is this Lactoferm Eco? I haven't even heard of this