Choosing a slow cooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)

[ame]

ame, You are from Russia? What do you mean by cottage cheese? A complete cooking process? Then it is most convenient in Brand 701, there is a special mode for cottage cheese and on Manual it is possible - the temperature range allows. If cottage cheese is not fundamental, then the choice of models is wider, but you have it in the first place.

Yes, from Russia
Curd is really important. I would just like to get ready-made cottage cheese from kefir or milk. I saw on YouTube how they prepared it from kefir without any straining)
Thank you

[ame]

ame, the technology of making cottage cheese from kefir and milk is fundamentally different. In the first case, heating to 50-60 ° C is necessary, further filtering of the whey, if necessary, then filtering (drying the curd mass). In the second case, it is more convenient to use specials. mode, since it is also necessary to ferment milk at 35 ° -38C (depending on the ferment used) for 6-8 hours, and after heating to 50-60 ° C, etc. This algorithm can be repeated at any multicooker with Manual mode / Multi-cook with a step of 5 ° C and a temperature range of 30 ° C. I will not say that there are many such multicooker. These are Brand multicooker, some Polaris, some Redmond, Steba's pressure cooker. HERE I cooked kefir curd in Brand 701 on Ruchny.

Thank you
It's somehow painfully difficult - strain, fermentation ... I can't master this - it's too troublesome
Is it possible to just pour the ingredients (I don't know - kefir or something) and get ready-made cottage cheese?

In this case, there will be a curd mass floating in the whey. Look at the link that I gave above - there is a video there.

Thank you
It's too late here. Tomorrow I'll look in more detail and I'll throw you a link where I saw that it turned out to be ready-made curd. True, there was an expensive m-Borg brew (I think)

It's somehow painfully difficult - strain, fermentation ... I can't master this - it's too troublesome

Well, I make it much easier - I pour milk into a cartoon saucepan, heat it up to 40 degrees, then add kefir at the rate of half or one third, stir it with a spoon, cover it with a lid and turn it off. if you do this in the morning, then in the evening there will be fresh yogurt / kefir. Now we turn on 65-70 degrees and look (I don't even cover it with a lid) - as soon as the cottage cheese begins to clearly gather in flakes, then we strain it. Well, or we catch it with a slotted spoon, if we are too lazy to filter, although it takes a long time.))

Manna has very tender cottage cheese, it doesn't work well with us, it's only for sandwiches. And to make it drier, then the temperature should be higher. Roughly speaking, pour fermented milk or pure kefir into a bowl and turn on the Heating, it is in all cartoons and usually just around 70 grams. As soon as the curd begins to flake, we stop the process and separate the curd from the whey.

In any case, you need to try it yourself and choose the method. You can even pour kefir into ordinary milk boiling on the stove and get another type of cottage cheese.
But such that without heating and straining - I have never heard of such a method. Although .... if you catch it with a slotted spoon and put it on a plate, it will drain off by itself, you just have to drain the liquid by tilting the plate.

[ame]

ame, we did a lot of cottage cheese in the yogurt maker, every week.
Now I hope that we will be in the multicooker too, and in general we are switching to the multicooker so that there is a replacement for the broken yogurt maker + add. capabilities

We also considered multi with multi-cook and Brand 701, where there is this special. function.
We stopped at 701, because we got used to making cottage cheese from dry starter cultures with a yogurt maker for a couple of years. I really hope that with the multicooker we will forget about the water bath, and immediately put it in cheesecloth.

Ie.we think the multicooker will save us time / effort due to the absence of a step with a water bath in the process of cooking cottage cheese (pour into a pan, build a system on the stove, etc.), as it was with a yogurt maker.

But there is not a single multi that would save you from the process of separating cottage cheese from whey. She has to go somewhere.

Unless, if you come up with some kind of silicone sieve, to take it out later with the curd, leaving the whey in the bowl. But, this is somehow doubtful.

So far, I can’t say about the real use in 701, since I have already ordered it, and the delivery will take about a week, but I will definitely report later in the relevant topic on this matter.

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It is more convenient with dry leaven, because it is sold in many places. And there is no difficulty in pouring it into warm (36-38 degrees) milk, the rest is the technique itself. I don't know what to compare with, how to add salt to food.

From kefir - cheaper. But there is a different process. We have told above.

He collects in a heap all the statistics and information from different sites. Someone also needs this information.

Digest of models in a given price category and the presence / absence of the required button.
Perhaps this will not hurt either.
But, it does not.

Now in their discussions with zogarom the truth is born.

Except in discussions

It is more correct not to discuss and not try to prove - the stake should be placed on independent search for a solution by the applicant.
Having several points of view on one object, we see it in volume.

[zogar]

the bet should be on independent search for a solution by the applicant

a segment of indecisive buyers of both genders who simply need a reputable (sometimes authoritarian) prompt

zogarForgive me, but, on the one hand, you say that the topic is not about you, but, on the other hand, you continue and continue off-topic. We all switched for a long time (virgins, after all, we switched, right? ) a choice of multicooker for cottage cheese and the technology of its preparation in different consistencies

Manna has a very delicate cottage cheese, it doesn't work well for us, it's only for

This kind of curd (only better on special sourdough, and not on purchased kefir) is optimal for children. And if you need thick cottage cheese, then it is possible at 70 ° C, but the main thing is not to overheat it - otherwise it will be dry grains.

Thank you
It's too late here. Tomorrow I'll look in more detail and I'll throw you a link where I saw that it turned out to be ready-made curd. True, there was an expensive m-Borg brew (I think)

In Bork? Yes. There are specials. there is a mode for cottage cheese. Only he is boiling. Do you want Bork? You were talking about the low price of a multicooker, not an expensive pressure cooker.
Reason for editing: correcting the authorship of the quote

[button "Curd"]

In Bork? Yes. There are specials. there is a mode for cottage cheese. Only he is boiling. Do you want Bork? You were talking about a small price for a multicooker, and not about an expensive pressure cooker

I don't understand at all about multicooker. I would not want Bork - very expensive, just to make cottage cheese and casseroles) I just thought (I fully admit that it is naive) that making cottage cheese is not the most difficult technological process, I thought that it was possible in cheaper models. I saw this button "Curd" in some Redmond, when I went to the store the other day

Here is a link to the video, after which I thought about purchasing a multicooker
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Watch from 1 min 07 sec
Somehow everything is simple there - they merged and that's it - no straining and business for only 20 minutes - no "leave for the night." Or am I missing something?
Thank you

[ame]

ame, I looked - nothing special, drained the whey, so you can do it in any multicooker. The same process of straining with dexterity. Simply on a sieve or through cheesecloth is more convenient than overflowing.

[ame]

ame, so, this is not such a difficult process (heating a fermented milk product), but without straining the curd mass from the whey, you will not get cottage cheese. If you do not plan to cook cottage cheese from specials. sourdough and milk, but only through heating kefir, you can buy any multicooker that "looks" at you (and heating is done on "Heating" - there is usually approx.70 ° C) Now on to the question of casseroles. Did you mean curd? For cottage cheese, a temperature of approx. 115 ° C, then they will be correct (tender without overcooked bottom). This means that you need a multicooker, with the ability to set 115 ° C, which means you need a multi-cooker. Although, in old Panasonic, excellent casseroles on Pastry are obtained - it is without a multi-cook. But porridge and stewing are at his best. True, this is not the most modern model. Classics, let's say. Is the volume of the bowl important to you? There is also a Redmond 01, but there are 2 liters. There, the stewing is soft, and the milk porridge does not run (usually), and the curd casseroles are not bad. True, a bowl with a "ceramic" coating can begin to stick if fried and poorly washed in it.

Somehow everything is simple there - they merged and that's it - no straining and business for only 20 minutes - no "leave for the night." Or am I missing something?

It is not always so easy to merge. It works so well only when the curd mass is overheated (and we don't need this) Therefore, it is optimal then to drain through cheesecloth into a colander and that's it - the curd remains to cool, and it's ready.
And "for the night" is about fermenting milk ...

Thank you
I had no idea that there was something special. They just write about straining for HOURS (leave overnight) and so on, fermenting - again for hours or whole nights.
I was bribed by the simple and speedy process
Which of the less expensive multi-cookers will give the same quick and easy result?

[MANNA]

MANNA
I would like to cook cottage cheese as simply as possible - apparently, this means that from kefir)
About casseroles - yes, mostly cottage cheese
Stewing meat - chicken breasts
Another would be a good omelet))
Capacity - I don't know, probably 3 liters will be enough (like eating 3-4 normal people at a time).

It works so well only when the curd mass is overheated (and we don't need that)

Sorry, no tricky question. And what's wrong with that if it is "overheated" and how many degrees is it?

[ame]

ame, the curd will be dry and hard. It's not tasty. For heating temp. usually 60-70 degrees. this is enough, but if it is higher and before the boil of the mass, hard grains are provided.

Clearly - this is certainly not tasty
We don't need it that way)

And there is also a way to cook cottage cheese without a slow cooker - freeze kefir in a bag, put this piece on a sieve and let it defrost and drain, you get a delicate cottage cheese and without the risk of overheating. It takes longer though.
And about the volume - 3-4 people are better than 5 liters, it still won't be able to load to capacity, just a normal amount of food will turn out.

Thanks, I'll try
Maybe it will work
in general - not so difficult - put in the freezer, and then put it and let it drain)

[MANNA]

MANNA
I would like to cook cottage cheese as simply as possible - apparently, this means that from kefir)
About casseroles - yes, mostly cottage cheese
Stewing meat - chicken breasts
Another would be a good omelet))
Capacity - I don't know, probably 3 liters will be enough (like eating 3-4 normal people at a time).

About the volume right away. 3-4 people - it is still better then 5 liters. In a five-liter usable volume - 3.5 liters. In 3 liter - approx. two.
Even in 5-liter ones, the bottom is often wider Or are these 3-4 normal people not very rich in appetite? I will say from my own experience that 2-3 liters is enough for two (one of them with an excellent appetite) or three with a small to medium appetite. So ... how much volume are we going to watch?

Cottage cheese casseroles at 115 ° С, omelet - at 80-100 ° С, stewing 95-98-100 ° С, kefir curd 60-70 ° С, milk porridge 95-98 ° С. They will be able to all multicooker with a multi-cooker with a step of 2-5 ° С.

You almost guessed it - really for two, one of whom is very gluttonous) (most likely eats at least 2 ordinary people)

Clearly, I understand, we are looking at 3 liters However, if you plan to cook compotes / soups, then 5 liters will be more convenient
Of the three-ruble notes, I again recommend Brand 701, but always with additional. a bowl with a non-stick coating (the one that comes with a poor quality "ceramic" coating).
There are also options for 4 liters - for example, Stadler (a very good bowl, but always with a non-stick, not a "ceramic" coating, but it does not have a multi-cook, although everything that you have listed can be cooked in it at suitable temperatures, there is a topic on the forum about this model, if there are questions - the girls will definitely prompt, by the way, there is a Stadler and by 3 liters - the models differ only in volume), Philips 3065, 3036 (but they are already more expensive due to the logo, and there is a step on a multi-cook in 10 ° C), Redmond 250 (even more expensive).

Hello everyone! I received my Multicooker PHILIPS HD 3067/03 and was away, from the fact that I had time to try it, the baked goods killed me on the spot, nothing came of it. I tried to bake a pie with blocks and it turned out like my grandmother says "goosey": e wet and how sticky or something inside
The omelets come out gorgeous, the meat was fried and stewed, the rest of the hands did not reach yet, the pastries completely upset

[Oksana]

Oksanait must have been a little too much liquid. In a multicooker, baking is different from an oven - the liquid evaporates very little, so less is needed. Try it first on the muffins. As you adjust to the proportion, then you can switch to pies with wet fillings.

[Manna]

Manna, thanks, I will try, we didn’t find Temko on my cartoon, but look for recipes for cupcakes in Temko Phillips? or from others you can try, proven, so as not to be completely upset

We've got a prefabricated theme for several models HERE... You can see pastries in Brand 37501 (from one multicooker factory)

[Manna]

MannaThank you so much for your help.

[Manna]

Manna, thank you!
I mean, I am also interested in cottage cheese casseroles, and there is so much information in the answers, you don't even need to ask your own questions - there are already answers Well, after all, the truth is my angel-advisor of this forum

I saved the page so that I would not search among the pages later.

Since we do not want to put sourdough cottage cheese on the casserole (sorry for the sourdough, we will eat it that way), but the idea was to make milk + a couple of spoons of our own yogurt or from yogurt (take away until the program jumped 60 degrees). The same will turn out, right?

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ame, I don’t know what city you are from, but although we are Muscovites, we are not in Moscow time now, and our choice of models is modest, or in stores where the choice is still much more expensive than in Moscow time for the same models (joy of the regions).

And 701 won not only because our favorite yogurt maker was also Brand, but in a combination of factors:
- there is a cottage cheese program (and we use dry starter cultures)
- there is a multi-cook, so that cottage cheese for casseroles from non-dry starter cultures
- there are many recipes on this forum and a topic to ask
- there are many tests here and on the manufacturer's forum, and we liked them

But another plus was the fact that by ordering on the Brand's website, they got a 15% discount on everything (until October 1), that bash for bash as delivery, and in the same place an additional bowl is available (from the reviews they realized that it is even better non-stick)
But the main plus for us was that if something in the delivery is not right, it will break down on the road, for example (and this is the first time we order equipment for such a distance, it's a little scary), that is, write 7 days to the manufacturer and something then change, I'm not sure if it was possible in some kind of Internet store. It seemed reasonable to us to have such a safety net.

It sounds like an advertisement, but I just told my thoughts why they bought this model (I would rather have come)

Thank you, I have read while "on the run"
I will answer in more detail later.
You can check out the brand's website address)

[Brand 701]

Brand 701
рф / viewitem / 255 / multivarka-Brand-701.html
Non-stick bowl for Brand 701
рф / viewitem / 290 / chasha-kastrulya-Brand-7012-dlya-multivarki-Brand-701.html

[Toshibu 18]

There are also options for 4 liters - for example, Stadler (a very good bowl, but always with a non-stick, not "ceramic" coating, but it does not have a multi-cook,

Thank you.
If it's not difficult, can I have model numbers?

Philips 3065, 3036 (but they are already more expensive due to the logo, and there is a step on a multi-cook at 10 ° С), Redmond 250 (even more expensive).

Philips 3036 seems to be like Brand 701. And what does Brand and Philips do at the same plant? Whose plant is Brand or Phillips?
Redmond 250 is expensive.
Now the prices for Redmond 90 seem to be quite good - about 5000 rubles - maybe it's worth it?

How critical is that the multi-cook step is 10 degrees? Do you need to be no more than 5?

I also wanted to ask - at work, a colleague talked about Toshibu 18... Then I looked at the review. As I understand it, it is a very solid product, but it seems like the functionality does not quite suit me (the temperature is low and the operating time, and there seems to be no multi-cook)? Maybe there is some kind of model comparable in quality of performance and with suitable functionality?
Thank you

Can I have model numbers?

Stadler Form Chef One SFC.929 (3 liters), Stadler Form Chef One SFC.909 (4 liters), Stadler Form Chef One SFC.919 (5 liters). Due to the absence of a multi-cook or a separate Yogurt program, these multi-cookers are not suitable for your purposes (making curd).

How critical is that the multi-cook step is 10 degrees? Do you need to be no more than 5?

The REDMOND RMC-M4502 model, which is very popular even now, has a temperature step of 20 degrees, it is full of multicooker without the ability to change the temperature at all - many have enough automatic programs.

Maybe there is some kind of model comparable in quality of performance and with suitable functionality?

Almost all multi are made in China, the quality of any model of any brand can "to swim" from batch to batch - do not bother with this, at the current level of development of industrial technologies, almost all products come out of acceptable quality (with a general trend towards a not too long shelf life - disposability products).

Now the prices for Redmond 90 seem to be quite good - about 5000 rubles - maybe it's worth it?

A recent top, a well-proven model from Redmont, very functional and quite solid. There is a lot of information about her and a lot of recipes.

Due to the absence of a multi-cook or a separate Yogurt program, these multi-cookers are not suitable for your purposes (making curd).

Have you tried it yourself?) I personally cook cottage cheese in it for almost a year, I even have a cooking method in my recipes

[zogar]

If it's not difficult, can I have model numbers?

Stadler Form Chef One SFC.909 - 4 liters. She is Swizz Style Chef One SFC.909. But look with a non-stick bowl, not a "ceramic" one.

What does Brand and Philips do in the same plant? Whose plant is Brand or Phillips?

The Povos factory used to make Brand 37501 and 6050. After that Philips bought this factory and began to produce multicooker and pressure cooker there under his own logo. None of this applies to Brand 701.

How critical is that the multi-cook step is 10 degrees? Do you need to be no more than 5?

Is it critical? Not so much, but it is better to have a step of 5 ° C in order to be able to set 115 ° C, for example.

Due to the lack of a multi-cook or a separate Yogurt program, these multi-cookers are not suitable for your purposes (making curd).

It is immediately evident that you do not know the technology for making cottage cheese. I wrote them down on the previous page. zogar, well, you would at least not say so categorically what you do not understand at all

ame, in Stadler you can easily prepare cottage cheese from kefir, do not hesitate. I have already told you the technology. In addition, in the section with Stadler there are recipes for cottage cheese

Redmont

You spell it wrong every time. Right Redmond

maybe worth it?

It's up to you I have already voiced my preferences within the framework of your requirements for the multicooker

Philips 3036 seems to be like Brand 701

And, this is where we saw silicone potholders in the kit, when we went to the Media Markt to look at the models. For some reason, I changed my mind to a panosonic. Now I looked - exactly this Phillips is 4 liters. The sellers praised us very much. It cost them 4.5 thousand. And nowhere else in the city was he.

But 701 is still a little cheaper - 3 thousand.

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By the way, power turned out to be an important factor for us.

We got used to a three-tariff meter in Moscow time, where there are pennies at night, and at night we turned on a washing machine, a dishwasher, a yogurt maker (although it didn’t take much), chargers, batteries, etc. But here electricity turned out to be much more expensive. The bill is three times more than the usual one with the same total consumption of kilowatts as in Moscow time.

We thought that the multicooker would plow at least 5 hours a day, and when yogurt / cottage cheese, it would do 10-12 hours a day.And drew attention to the difference in the capacities of the multicooker. The difference of 400-500 watt / hour translates into an additional thousand to the already rather big account.

If this is also relevant to you, then pay attention.

The difference of 400-500 watt / hour translates into an additional thousand to the already rather big account.

I always wondered: what does the power consumption in each device depend on? (yes, my physics is bad). It seemed that the more power, the better the appliance cooks (faster heating, better frying). Hence the question: what is the optimal power for MV and SV? Thank you!

[Loya]

Loya, there is no direct dependence on the power consumption that will be at the output. And only depends on the power speed set temperature. But again, the speed of dialing and the temperature itself will also be affected by the thickness of the bowl and its volume. Power will also be related to the number of heating elements, turns in them, the resistance of the heating element and the entire circuit. In general, there are many factors
If we talk about CB and MV, then CB has always more power - the speed of pressure build-up is important there.

... what is the optimal power for MV and SV?

In multicooker ~ 170-175 W. for a volume of 1 liter.
That is, for 3-liter ~ 500 W, 4-liter ~ 700 W, 5-liter ~ 860 W.

In pressure cookers for 1 liter. ~ 180-200 W.
That is, for 5 liters. ~ 900-1000 W, 6 hp ~ 1000-1200 W.

there is no direct dependence on the power consumption of the one that will be at the output. And only the rate of temperature rise depends on the power. But again, the speed of dialing and the temperature itself will also be affected by the thickness of the bowl and its volume. ...
If we talk about CB and MV, then CB has always more power - the speed of pressure build-up is important there.

Aha, I subscribe. Only the pressure cooker will be slightly more economical due to the absence of heat loss with steam.

And I did not notice the difference in the payment for email at all. energy without a multi-cooker and with a slow cooker. I also often put yogurt to ferment for the whole day or night, bake only in cartoons, the first too, that is, I use it quite intensively.

And I did not notice the difference in the payment for email at all. energy without a multi-cooker and with a slow cooker.

Wow!
But we are still purely theoretically - there is a device, it has so much power, it will be about 250-300 hours a month in operation, multiply by the tariff ...

And the effect of the first impression of moving to the region, where the usual (utility bills + electricity) turned out to be several orders of magnitude higher, worked more likely. And before that they would not have thought about the difference in power, they would not have paid attention.

Maybe they exaggerated the importance of the item, and all our calculations will remain theory.

[zogar]

zogar, Manna, Rick, thanks for the information. I have a house, and against the general background of energy consumption, CF does not add much to the cost of payments. But in light of the choice of gifts, especially for retired relatives, this is an important point. I would not like to see my parents upset when I receive my next email bill. And again, because of the same bills, the gift would not have moved to the far corner ...

Wow!
But we are still purely theoretically - there is a device, it has so much power, it will be about 250-300 hours a month in operation, multiply by the tariff ...

It turns out that the cartoon works for you 10 hours a day? Strong ... Yes, I saw the previous post ...

The power indicated on the device is the maximum. Multicooker usually consumes less than this figure. This maximum consumption occurs during the initial heating, on Baking, Frying.

I also wanted to write that not all program execution time works at the maximum power of the cartoon, and not on all programs. I specifically looked to see if the counter starts spinning when the MV is turned on. does not shake. Washing machines and dishwashers are much more noticeable.

Hello everybody!!!
Girls, I have a big request to the owners of several multicooker. By the will of fate, we ended up in Russia, and here are completely different TMs.
Help, I need advice. I choose the second cartoon, the first one - Saturn, I boast to everyone avidly, a miracle slow cooker.I want a second one, about the same price-quality combination, but with functions that are absent in Saturn - pasta, yogurt, steaming. Well, and a bowl suitable for baking. It doesn't matter that it was a pressure cooker, Saturn is enough.
It was difficult for me to choose in Ukraine, but at least I knew what kind of TM it represented. In Russia, those TMs that I know are expensive. But it would be like our Saturn - and not expensive, and good. Pliiiz!
And also, where in Russia you can buy a Dex bowl or a similar quality bowl suitable for baking (for Saturnik).
Thank you.

[Saturn ST-MC9180]

But it would be like our Saturn ...

Which model?

We offer four: Saturn ST-MC9180 (5 l.) / ST-MC9181 (6 l.) / ST-MC9184(5 l.) / ST-MC9185 (5 l.) - 🔗

Subject to your requests 116 models multicooker (price from 910 rubles to 2999 rubles) - 🔗

It would be more correct to go to a nearby shopping center and pick up half a dozen models for the price and experience, and here they will help you choose from them.

And if you plan to take through an online store, then choose the ones that are suitable in price, functionality and appearance from those 116and again with a list here, for pumping.

where in Russia you can buy a Dex bowl or a similar quality bowl suitable for baking (for Saturnik).

The largest selection of bowls from a specialized manufacturer - the company NEK, but did not find Saturn in their list. The brand is not very popular with us, maybe that's why.

If the displacement and dimensions are known, then you can pick up an analogue, but it would still be better to ask them first.

"How to choose your own cup" - 🔗