vernisag
Quote: nonamenm
PS The wife demands to write that she hasn't liked cooking in a slow cooker yet
Well, we have gathered here according to our interests, we all really like to cook in multicooker. I generally do not cook on the stove for a long time. Although I will not hide, the first experiments were also disappointing. Here you need to understand HOW, there is a difference in the approach of cooking.
And about pilaf, I have a cauldron, I cooked it, I know, but it has been gathering dust in the closet for a long time. I get delicious pilaf in cartoons too.

Choosing a slow cooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)

Choosing a slow cooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)
Rick
Quote: nonamenm
PS But to give up everything and leave - I will not try yet, I guess roughly that what happens will make me eat myself.
Here, more than half of the people like to cook in multicooker, because you can leave everything and leave, and get ready-made delicious food by return. So try further and you will definitely succeed! The main thing here is not to be prejudiced from the very beginning.
Stafa
Quote: nonamenm
PS The wife demands to write that she hasn't liked cooking in a slow cooker yet
Quote: vernisag
I generally do not cook on the stove. Although I will not hide, the first experiments were also disappointing. Here you need to understand HOW, there is a difference in the approach of cooking.
I completely agree with Irina vernisag, I don't practically cook on the stove at all, and if I cook, then it runs away - burns up - burns out, because I got lazy with cartoons.
And I will also say a seditious thought that you took a shitty cartoon and the taste of the dishes from it will be the same, the algorithm of her work is not correct, of course she cooks and fries, but the taste at the output will be on the C grade. Such multi will not spoil only soup and boil eggs, they will do everything else, but anyhow ... I have two Panasonic - new Chinese and old Thailand - so they are heaven and earth, the Chinese are ruining everything in the bud. Rice is different in taste for the same rice and ratio, but from Chinese rice. Even the vegetable stew on the pilaf program, the Chinese man managed to spoil me completely, although in the old Panas I cook this stew all the time. And so on for many dishes. Therefore, I will not recommend the new Chinese Panas to anyone and will discourage anyone from buying it. Since having made the model cheaper, it was deprived of its merits, and it became the same as all cheap .. and not cheap, but promoted on TV.
nonamenm
vernisag!
Great pictures. Nice rice - it's really long

Stafa!
Yes, I do not hide that I took the cheapest solution. Therefore, here I am writing my thoughts for those who have not yet joined.
Regarding incorrect cooking, etc. - there is a multi-cook mode - if you have experience and an idea of ​​what and how it should.
And each rice has its own character (like flour for bread), so you need to adapt to each one. And there is also a different approach - whether to soak the rice before cooking or not - which will also give its own nuances ...
So far 180 degrees are not enough for me - more precisely at first glance.
And yet - if you really need to cook well - I will do it faster on the stove, and not a single Japanese cartoon of yours will stand nearby.
Taken to develop laziness

A question for all multiwires!
If I want to make chicken soup, then should I throw everything into the water, set the time for which I need to cook and get out?
More precisely, what will happen to the vermelle after that? Of course you can try, but I'd rather ask.
Manna
nonamenm, for such questions we have THIS theme. Well, or specialized topics based on the multicooker model.
vernisag
Quote: nonamenm
really, he is long
I won't argue about the first photo, perhaps an old photo, I don't remember. And on the second, like Krasnodar rice.
A multi-cook has linear heating, and the programs have a specific heating algorithm, adjusted for a specific preparation of dishes.
Chicken soup won't work that easily.

This is probably better here Polaris multicooker and pressure cooker

Or here recipes for multicooker
Irin1
Quote: nonamenm

I don’t even know if it’s good or bad, but the toad crushed it and decided to buy something very cheap for testing, so that if something would gather dust in the country and it would not be a pity. Polaris 0518AD fell under this - quite by accident, I just saw Metro C&C while visiting a store.

I have such a slow cooker. I like. When frying, the temperature is regulated (to the question of reading the instructions). I don't like pilaf, I don't cook it often, but it turns out well with vegetables (without meat) or with mushrooms. Milk porridge to taste (especially if delayed cooking). The pastries are generally excellent. And its power is not so small - 860W. I cook chicken soup, but not like that - "threw it, turned it on, left." So you just need to learn how to cook in it.
vernisag
Irina, so you have your own theme about this cartoon here, here
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=334325.0
Let's walk there for a couple of times, share your impressions, tell us what you cooked, how you did it, upload photos and the most multi and your culinary creations, share your experience in short.
There will also be other users who may really need your help and advice.
nonamenm
A strange feeling does not leave me on this forum.
It was logically correct for me - to make a choice - to share impressions and nuances.
Thus, make it clear to beginners what to look for, etc.
Thanks to those who responded to my requests and answered questions.
But for the rest, it seems that there are a lot of managers selling cartoons to people from the companies they serve.
And everyone else is simply told where to go, etc.
Thanks again to everyone and good luck.
Irina.A
Quote: nonamenm
But for the rest, it seems that there are a lot of managers selling cartoons to people from the companies they serve. And everyone else is simply told where to go, etc.
in vain you are so, everyone chooses what he likes and according to his means, everything is known in comparison.
Arinna
Quote: nonamenm

A strange feeling does not leave me on this forum.
....
And everyone else is simply told where to go, etc.
Thanks again to everyone and good luck.
Indeed, in vain you were so offended. They send them to the profile topics on the contrary, so that your impressions are not lost in this topic, because in a week, or even in a couple of days, you yourself will not find your messages, and even more so for beginners.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!
Stafa-

Quote: Stafa

.. I have two Panasonic - the new Chinese and the old Thailand - so they are heaven and earth, the Chinese are ruining everything in the bud.

my neighbors and me \ we are friends with families \ for 18 Panas I have thailand they have china
so they put two side by side - the same rice - equal parts of water - TASTE DIFFERENT: swoon: I don't say better or worse - DIFFERENT
then they made potatoes on chicken steam - well, that is, down the chicken and potatoes in the double boiler
and the chicken and potatoes are their neighbors brought from the village
the chicken fried the pain is less the same - but the potatoes I cooked from and they have damp
and further
they brought milk - well, they poured us five liters, I rubbed the handles HEATED we will do
the neighbor became interested - what and how she was imbued with my tales and also wanted
two cartoons in my kitchen stood stewing for 8 hours and also turned out differently
in mine it's darker - mellower
Manna
Quote: nonamenm
there is an impression that there are a lot of managers selling cartoons of the companies they serve to people.
If this were the case, the forum would have died out at the very beginning. There is also a live communication of real users of all kinds of kitchen (and not only) appliances. And what's more, they don't accept all kinds of managers here.

Quote: nonamenm
just tell them where to go
We propose to go to specialized topics to discuss the issues that you have raised. Where they share experiences similar to yours. Where users of similar devices can suggest.

Even in this topic, which is completely not intended for discussing the process of cooking in multicooker, they were ready to tell you some of the subtleties of using multicooker. Therefore, I absolutely do not understand your rather sharp message.
vernisag
nonamenm, here each model of a multicooker has its own theme and there users communicate, exactly those specific multicooker that they have. The girls cook, talk, show photographs, expose recipes, share experiences. Go to any topic and take a look. This topic is general, just help in choosing and nothing more.
nonamenm, we mulberries are all ordinary people, just for a long time.
You send people to strange people, they come up with some kind of managers on the right topics, you help, but it seems to them that they are being sent somewhere in the wrong place ...
Sens
Have any reviews on Multicooker VITEK VT-4209 (BW)?
nbaqVILmKi0
Sens
Manna, there the owners are all Ukrainian mistresses. they are not up to cartoons now, apparently, they do not answer, I wrote.
Irgata
Quote: Lara_
Do all multicooker have non-stick bowls? Is there nothing more, so to speak, harmless? Stainless steel, for example? I ask for advice.
I have a saucepan from a still Soviet pressure cooker, I want to ask my husband to cut down the steel fasteners of the handles, I removed them, and then this plump saucepan that worked before the era of ** multi-remote ** with a baking dish in gas. oven, it will definitely fit into my 5-liter cartoon - this is not officially on the forum, but it is an analogue of many (LEBEN is the cheapest thing that was in our city for 5 liters and 900 watts (1740 r, odorless, pretty Chinese lady)
Manna
Quote: Sens

Have any reviews on Multicooker VITEK VT-4209 (BW)?
I somehow do not have a special love for such devices. And here today I was baking bread in a bread maker and thought that I wouldn’t want my slow cooker to have the same burnt insides, as is usually the case with bread makers (no matter how neat, but it still burns the flour, it happens that it splashes during kneading, if liquid has to be added). And there is also a multicooker heating element from the bottom of such double devices, which does not at all facilitate the "cleaning" process.
Bijou
Irsha, oh, I wouldn't risk someone else's saucepan. Nevertheless, the shape of the bottom of the native bowls completely repeats the shape of the heater; ordinary pots are simply not so concave. Well, she will hang on the sensor, which will think that it is still cold there. The heating element will warm up, because the sensor told him. And the heat will not reach the pan, because the fit is loose? Or how? Or is your pressure cooker concave at the right angle?
Irgata
Quote: Bijou
Or is your pressure cooker concave at the right angle?
Lena!!!!! Thanks for the warning, I'll look carefully. indeed - the bottom of the multi-bowl is slightly concave, so I did not notice it = headaaa, you, Len !!! maybe my husband won't have to pore over cutting, but where did I get this idea - about 2 years ago, even without a multicooker at all, but I climb on HP. ru, one of the girls expressed the idea of ​​replacing their own bowl with something suitable in size - as it is now, such a choice and opportunities to buy there was no, vooot ... And since with the acquisition slowly - multi-and so on. D. cooks - a bunch of casseroles was released - so, an economical thought came, why pay denyuzhka for what, maybe, in a corner of the kitchen yearns as unnecessary.
Irina.A
Please advise the brand of rice cooker, we like rice differently, and those that I considered have two functions, rice and porridge, but I want variety.
Irgata
Quote: Irina. A
but I want variety.
=== they came up with a multicooker, it just grew out of a rice cooker-cooker, and in rice cookers, with knowledge of temperature conditions and the ability to cook, people manage to make tasty treats, go to the topic about rice cookers-cookers.
Irina.A
Thank you! I will definitely look. (a variety of rice), but I have multi and do not stand idle.
Irgata
Quote: Irina. A
and I have multi and do not stand idle.
hee, hee, and I was really surprised - with such a variety of cartoons on the market - just want a rice cooker that good more expensive than a simple multi ... hmm, it is necessary technique watch, and then communicate with the person
Manna
Quote: Irina. A
want variety
I don't understand, do you need multiple modes for rice? Then it must be purchased from the Koreans - there is certainly all sorts of variety - only modes for rice. And in Russia everything is adapted to the Russian market
Irina.A
Well, okay, they didn't take money for demand, we will use what we have (this is so, another blessed, kitchen)
zogar
Irina. A, you were rightly advised -
Quote: Manna
...need multiple modes for rice? Then it must be purchased from the Koreans - there is certainly all sorts of variety - only modes for rice.
백미(white / glutinous rice) - white rice;
김초 밥 (Sushi) - sticky rice for sushi;
현미 (Brown rice) - brown rice;
현미 발아 - sprouted brown rice;
묵은 쌀 - old / last year / dry rice;
영양 밥 (Nutritious rice) - literally, this is nutritious rice;
죽 / 영양 죽 (Porroge / Nutritious porrige) - the essence is the same. Chuk is a very popular Korean rice porridge;
누룽 지(NuRungJi? / Storched rice) is the famous program for cooking rice with a burnt crust.

These are all modes of Korean rice cookers for cooking different dishes from different varieties of rice [in parallel there are others, for example, 홍삼 (Red gingseng) - preparation of ginseng decoction; 삼계탕 - chicken soup stuffed with rice; 검은 콩 - black beans; 고구마 - sweet potatoes; etc.].

Japanese rice cookers: from Zojirushi, from Tiger, from Hitachi, from Toshiba, from Panasonic; Korean by Cuckoo, by Lihom. There are a lot of Chinese models - a great variety of firms, but local (not on a global scale).

If you are not fluent in Japanese (Korean, Chinese), then it is most practical to purchase original Korean model Lihom CUCHEN CJH-PA1000IC, which the werewolf company (Bork) localized for our market under the name Bork U800 (from 32,500 rubles) - you can somehow understand the instructions and it will cost thirteen thousand rubles cheaper (US $ 499.99 price - already with delivery).

Yes, here, too, there is a theme, and in it there are pictures, and decoding of buttons and experience of use.
"Multicooker LIHOM LJP-HG100CV" - https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=128044.0

If anyone else has an interest in purchasing multicooker rice cookers from Southeast Asia (Japan, Korea, China), then contact me - I can help with advice and deed.
yaKachka
Girls and boys))) I decided to talk about the purchase, a month ago I bought a Kitfort 202 multicooker, I just needed a yogurt maker and a deep fryer separately for the dacha, I counted on the money and decided to take a chance, take three in one, - a cartoon, a yogurt maker and a deep fryer (my husband loves still alive, only the caught fish should be dipped in deep fat). He, like the Chinese, believes that in this way she gives the eaters maximum benefit, vitality and some kind of dao, etc. ... This cartoon now has a promotion that has been reduced from 4. The bowl is heavy, the coating is resistant (I saw such a coating in the supra 4511), everything is correct, both the clock and the delay. The only drawback is that the bowl is corrugated - it is terribly inconvenient to wash, the constant feeling that something is left in it at the bottom. Now I plan to buy a 5 liter flat bowl from Redmond, or from Polaris, until I decided. There are three sensory modes, in fact there are two - rice and boiling.
Choosing a slow cooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker (2)
As the first, at current prices for Panasonic-18, and even more expensive than 2 and a half, I would not consider it.
And so, if for the action and for that kind of money (1,550 rubles) - the cartoon is excellent, you can take it!
Panochka
I never chose the cartoon, what I wanted was not available. And then today a call, finally the Shtebs came for 2200 UAH. She looked at the computer version. ru with delivery comes out 112 euros. Almost the same money as taking Shteba in Ukraine and not bothering?
zogar
Panochka, not all Shtebs are equally good.

Read about the differences - https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in..._smf&topic=362654.new#new
abulyaka
what a horror! deep-fried live fish .... interesting, but the husband did not ask how much it hurts?
Miranda
yaKachka, what about her yogurt program?

I'm in anticipation of a salary and a purchase, I'm still staring at different things, the choice is a painful thing

Googled about this Kit - all the reviews seem to be paid for.
I especially liked one on YAM, they say the cartoon is a great thing when there are unexpected guests. It's still faster to feed unexpected guests on the stove than in a cartoon. Unless, an hour and a half to entertain them while waiting. And peel the potatoes, cut the meat and the salad, which cartoon does not know how
variety
Quote: abulyaka

what a horror! deep-fried live fish .... interesting, but the husband did not ask how much it hurts?
I would have these Chinese, who invented such sadism, themselves - for eggs and deep-fried!
Panochka
Quote: zogar

Panochka, not all Shtebs are equally good.

Read about the differences - https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in..._smf&topic=362654.new#new
Didn't understand the difference ?! Here is a link to the proposed 🔗]
Bijou
Quote: Panochka
Didn't understand the difference ?!
Well, they tell you that in Ukraine there are completely different Shteba's operations, with completely different functionality.See, there is not even a watch between the lines of the display?

If possible, you must select the Heating program (lower button on the right) before purchasing and press it twice. The bottom line should blink with temperature "70". Use the plus or minus buttons to change the temperature. Well, if it doesn’t change, then it doesn’t change - neither yoghurts, nor souvids, nor dough proofing. If this is not required, then you can buy, only there will be no delay in the start, there is no "watch". ((
yaKachka
Quote: Miranda

yaKachka, what about her yogurt program?

I'm in anticipation of a salary and a purchase, I'm still staring at different things, the choice is a painful thing

Googled about this Keith - the reviews seem to be paid for.
I especially liked one on YAM, they say the cartoon is a great thing when there are unexpected guests. It's still faster to feed unexpected guests on the stove than in a cartoon. Is that, an hour and a half to entertain them while waiting. And peel the potatoes, cut the meat and the salad, which cartoon does not know how
As a yogurt maker, she is excellent, I make yogurt twice a week, three liters each, - it does not overheat, does not go into heating. And how comfortable the deep fryer is, we liked it. But as a cartoon, it's difficult, you have to get used to it, for example, the soup boils quite intensely on the program, it's uncomfortable for me, I tried to cook jam on the slow stewing program, everything went through the valve, although in Panasonic, all other things being equal, everything was fine on stewing. The other day I cooked peppers stuffed in parallel in Kitfort and in Panasonic, put five peppers in each bowl, poured half a glass of water, the peppers came out better in Kitfort, the Rice program ended faster than the Pilaf program in Panasonic, in Kitfort the water all boiled away, the bowl was the day it caught a little, almost all the water remained in Panasonic, the peppers were more dietary, they swam in the water, they had to catch it, drain the water. I liked the peppers from Kitfort more, they came out somehow richer and tastier. My verdict is that you need to adapt to it and without experience it is difficult to do it (in this regard, Panasonic-18 is much easier). But as a deep fat fryer, yoghurt maker, rice-buckwheat, it is excellent! For something more you need to look.
8) I agree about paid reviews - it’s incomprehensible how some companies (a parable in the language of Redmond, and Kitfort, unfortunately, went this way) for their own money receive such a good stream of advertising from crooked marketers))) It makes me especially happy when the same thing is written from a male name and a female one))) Two reviews in a row, forgetting to re-login)))) All this is so clear, sewn with white threads, it is clear and understandable, which turns away not only from the product, but also from the company. Few people are pleased when they consider him an idiot)))
yaKachka
Quote: variety

I would have these Chinese, who invented such sadism, themselves - for eggs and deep-fried!
I myself am against such sadism!
We somehow fried the fish together, and in the same oil, I (gutted, head cut off beforehand) one fish (with a head, still alive) - it was really tastier and juicier, and much more, but the process itself !!! The main thing there is to have time to gut the fish, salt, pepper, roll in flour, deep-fry it, get her unfortunate one and start eating while she is still breathing! : crazy: Better so I'm not so tasty eat, but without these Chinese freaks)))
Taiwanese chef accused of fish abuse
Animal advocates have taken out their righteous anger at the Taiwanese chef.
The problem was not even in the taste of the dish, but in the fact that it was a carp, deep-fried whole with its head, which is still stirring on the plate, being poured with sweet and sour sauce. This tragic story was told by the Chinese newspaper United Daily News. "When a customer chooses fresh meat with chopsticks, the fish continues to open its mouth," the newspaper said. Animal advocates generally oppose the practice of deep-frying fish while still alive, which, in their opinion, is experiencing incredible suffering and pain.A chef from the southern city of Chiayi himself said that this "Yin-Yang Fish" dish is especially popular in China, where chefs use this method of cooking to show customers how fresh it is. "I tried my best to offer my customers the finest dishes," - quotes the words of a chef named Wang. Chiayi city officials have promised angry animal advocates to persuade Wang to remove the dish from the menu.
zogar
Quote: Bijou
See, there is not even a watch between the lines of the display?
In the second photo (with a bowl, a steamer stand, a steamer and a lid), the clock in the center of the display is visible.

It is necessary to find out directly in the store about the presence of a watch in the center of the display and the possibility of manually setting the temperature in the "Heating" mode after pressing the corresponding button twice (after pressing once, the cooking time in this mode is set).

The fact is that the first batches of Shteb's multicooker-pressure cookers delivered to Ukraine were with a truncated functionality (in the version for the German market). This has been repeatedly reported on the forums.
yaKachka
Quote: Miranda

First of all, I am interested in yogurt and other fermented milk, because my favorite yogurt maker has broken.
Secondly, to replace a not very good stove in a rented apartment (we moved from Moscow to work on a good contract in the region for a year).
We don't cook milk porridge. There are two of us, so I think 3-4 liters approx.
Another preference is that I don't like the round barrel-shaped one. This will be the first multicooker.
Miranda, I read your message on the topic of multi search, in my opinion Kitfort 202 will do, she makes yogurt perfectly (for me it was also paramount), deep-fries and cooks buckwheat wonderfully on the slow stewing program, you can also use rice on it. Soup is more difficult, in my opinion it boils very much, I cooked cabbage soup yesterday in it on the slow stewing program, it turned out great. The only thing, it strongly evaporates, stronger than Panasonic. But as an alternative, now at the dacha I really like it, it has a lot of programs and the bowl is roomy, it is not barrel-shaped, interesting design, very pleasant to work with. The only thing, if you take it, try to take it no more than two, maximum two and a half - do not overpay, for all its merits, it is no longer worth it.
Miranda
yaKachka, thanks for the detailed answer! (oh, while I wrote and pressed send, it tells me - here they also wrote)

I have just the first one. We decided to buy instead of a broken yogurt maker (we got hooked on homemade sour milk), and to expand the possibilities.

The price is really attractive (option 1.5-1.7 thousand rubles), but since the complexity, then well it.

And the policy of paid reviews left a residue. I not only google this Kit, but also the next model 203. I also look at any technique in Yandex blogs - that people in their social. networks and forums write. LJ is full of reviews on Kit, ending with the words - if you liked my review, indicate my nickname when ordering, get a discount, then-syo. Fu.

That is, it may be a good thing, but if you buy with the feeling that they are being sold, then later it is not that joy to use.

Thank you.
yaKachka
And the policy of paid reviews left a residue. I not only google this Kit, but also the next model 203. I also look at any technique in Yandex blogs - that people in their social. networks and forums write. LJ is overflowing with reviews on Kit, ending with words - if you liked my review, indicate my nickname when ordering, get a discount, then-syo. Fu. That is, it may be a good thing, but if you buy with the feeling that they are being sold, then later it is not that joy to use. Thank you.
: girl_cleanglasses: Take a closer look at this cartoon, it is quite worthy, although it was tarnished with already purchased advertising and cheap marketing.
I just took it on the topic of playing in the country, but surprisingly liked it.
variety
Quote: yaKachka
The main thing there is to have time to gut the fish, salt, pepper, roll in flour, deep-fry it, get her unfortunate one and start eating while she is still breathing!
AAAA! I can't read it, let alone see ... !!!
variety
Quote: yaKachka
All this is so visible, sewn with white threads, it is clear and understandable, which turns away not only from the product, but also from the company. Few people are pleased when they consider him an idiot)))
Quote: Miranda
That is, it may be a good thing, but if you buy with the feeling that they are being sold, then later it is not that joy to use.
Yes, that's why I don't even look towards Redmond. And, as luck would have it, they gave me their slow cooker. I never made friends with her, it’s worth it, it is used once a quarter: well, I don’t have a heart for her (and some kind of unfinished model)! And above all because of the boorish advertising policy of this pseudo-American office!
I don't want to buy anything from her equipment at all, even if the device is really good: the very name of the Brand will be an eyebrow for me.
And I dissuade all my friends from buying their equipment, I always try to find a more interesting option in comparison with R.
yaKachka
Quote: variety

AAAA! I can't read it, let alone see ... !!!
Here I am, too, But my husband believes that the Chinese, as a wise people, will not advise bad things, therefore such a live fish is especially useful for children who are often ill and frail old people.
Manna
Quote: yaKachka
especially useful for frequently ill children and frail old people
Alive? Fried? Is it useful for the sick? Fried? Alive? Not everything needs to be taken on faith from the "wise" people
yaKachka
I therefore do not even look towards Redmond. And, as luck would have it, they gave me their slow cooker. I never made friends with her, it’s worth it, it is used once a quarter: well, I don’t have a heart for her (and some kind of unfinished model)! And above all because of the boorish advertising policy of this pseudo-American office!
I don't want to buy anything from her equipment at all, even if the device is really good: the very name of the Brand will be an eyebrow for me.
And I dissuade all my friends from buying their equipment, I always try to find a more interesting option in comparison with R.
Yes, Redmond, as a brand, managed to discredit itself, becoming a household name, and, moreover, so thoughtfully and tastefully))): mail1: It was necessary to try))) With such marketing, no competitors are needed)))
yaKachka
Quote: Manna

Alive? Fried? Is it useful for the sick? Fried? Alive? Not everything needs to be taken on faith from the "wise" people
Wise people are older than our people in the history of healing, I think they should be trusted.
Manna
It is a pity that we know the history of the "wise" people better than our own
yaKachka
It is a pity that we know the history of the "wise" people better than our own
Not in everything, for example, I think that nothing can be more useful than my vegetables and fruits, culinary traditions, this year I prepared 12 liters of horseradish, - my husband is horrified, but I agree that it is tastier, more reliable and dearer from all kinds of bird flu there is nothing!

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