Bread maker Bork X800

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Thanks for the advice, I already read and teach. It's just that in my original understanding of HB, there was the principle of ease of use - I put the ingredients in the right proportions and you get normal tasty bread at the end. Not that I have to monitor the quality of the kolobok for half an hour during the batch. Well, well, if it is day, but what about at night? It turns out that with the "Kolobok principle" the opportunity to get fresh bread for breakfast is deprived, because at night I want to sleep, like all normal people, and not monitor the quality of the kolobok!

7) It gets stuck in almost everyone, in some HP it is extremely rare (Panasonic)

So here he is, kind of folding? True, I did not understand how, but the existing one (in theory) should not get stuck? .. That is, according to my ideas, it should be "under" the loaf, leaving a flat dent - no?

It turns out that with the "Kolobok principle" the opportunity to get fresh bread for breakfast is deprived, because at night I want to sleep, like all normal people, and not monitor the quality of the kolobok!

Fresh bread for breakfast is generally (in my opinion) a marketing myth. More precisely, I always have fresh bread for breakfast, but it is baked at night, after which it stands on a wire rack until morning, and in the morning - a crispy crust and delicious crumb. Here's how, interestingly, are you planning to eat the hottest and most humid, just after baking bread? To do this, take it out, well, at least a couple of hours before eating.

And so - after you get your hands on the selected recipes - you can put them on and not touch them anymore. True, instability happens in our area, for example, flour. One and the same brand - sometimes it is good, sometimes it requires a major fill-up, how can you guess? So it's all the same - it is necessary to follow, IMHO. At least the first 10-15 minutes (usually by this time it is already clearly visible whether you need to fill up, or everything will roll so well).

[irinapanf]

irinapanf
I don’t follow Peck’s kolobok mostly at night. I don't see a problem. Take recipes from the forum, use scales, try, select for yourself and bake on the machine

[irinapanf]

irinapanf

3) The program solves everything
4, 5) The program solves everything

It is with the program that I want to understand, because the instructions do not indicate the "factory" time intervals for each mode! The "Modify" button allows you to change the BASIC programs in the HB and, given that we took the oven from the showcase, where it was connected to the network, it is highly likely that before us visitors to the store pressed all kinds of buttons and turned the wheels of the equipment, instructions to which they did not read, and changed the base settings accordingly.

So here he is, kind of folding? True, I did not understand how, but the established one (in theory) should not get stuck? ..

Well, as they say, I must and I am not obliged I have not yet met HP in which the scapula would not get stuck

[irinapanf]

irinapanf If I understood correctly, there is a CUSTOM mode in it and you can change the settings. And the factory "sewn" and do not change.
See above
The range and number of programming parameters depends on the selected main program as a template. In the photo of the panel, they are shown in bold.

[irinapanf]

irinapanf If I understood correctly, there is a CUSTOM mode in it and you can change the settings. And the factory "sewn" and do not change.

The fact of the matter is that they are still changing !!! Changed herself!

Excerpt from instruction
"Parameter change function
cooking - MODIFY
This function allows you to change the parameters
cooking in automatic modes.
It is possible to change the temperature settings
and cooking times in the 'preheat' stages
(preheating), 'knead' (kneading
dough), ‘rise’ (proofing), ‘punch -do wn’
(crush), 'bake' (bake) and 'keep war m'
(heating).

[irinapanf]

The fact of the matter is that they are still changing !!! Changed herself!

irinapanf, You are poorly understood with the parameters of your bread maker.
Yesterday we sorted it out in a few minutes even without a glass of red.
For everyone, they posted the characteristics here.
And why argue with you? Look, everyone writes to you, read, delve into and learn.

sazalexter, everything in this stove is in order.
The basic programs are permanently sewn and remain intact.
Respectively all modes, each embedded program, you can preview when running the program.
Also, each embedded program can be temporarily changed, but only until the next start of any other program of this bread maker.
With each new program selection and the start of the bread maker, the embedded programs start with the factory settings, which can again be pre-changed, if necessary.

You are poorly understood with the parameters of your bread maker.

Do you argue with the instructions?

[irinapanf]

irinapanf,
for everyone here they posted the characteristics. And why argue with you?

I know these characteristics and the range of parameters even without you. I'm interested in initial factory settings for different automatic modes in HB. Well, what's incomprehensible? Because, as I wrote above, these settings change !!! See excerpt from instruction above.

And I'm not going to argue with you.

[all modes]

...
Because, as I wrote above, these settings change !!! See excerpt from instruction above.

And I'm not going to argue with you.

We are nice people, but since you are rude, we will kindly poke your nose here again, -
The basic programs are permanently sewn and remain intact.
Respectively all modes, each embedded program, you can preview when running the program.
Also, each built-in program can be temporarily change but just until the next launch any other program of this bread maker.
With each new program selection and the start of the bread maker, the embedded programs start with the factory settings, which can again be pre-changed, if necessary.

And all this is written in the instructions, read

[irinapanf]

irinapanf,
With each new program selection and the start of the bread maker, the embedded programs start with the factory settings, which can again be pre-changed, if necessary.

Then I apologize for hitting, I did not know this, since the experience of communicating with HB is only 2 times.

I'll go to the oven! If something doesn't work out - I'll try to post pictures! Thank you all for your support! Sorry again.

We believe that you will not get away with it just like that.
We missed one parameter yesterday.
Set the program to Use Mode and select Whole Wheat Flour, this will take a couple of minutes.
Next, you will need to set any time for all three ascents, after setting the time for the first ascent, the warm-up time = 0 sec.
If the time of the 2nd and 3rd rise is programmed, then everything is great.
If not, then you need to try to set the warm-up time to 1 sec. and try again to set the 2 rise time. It should work.
Write about the result.

Thanks for the advice, I already read and teach. It's just that in my original understanding of HB, there was the principle of ease of use - I put the ingredients in the right proportions and you get normal tasty bread at the end. Not that I have to monitor the quality of the kolobok for half an hour during the batch. Well, well, if it is day, but what about at night? It turns out that with the "Kolobok principle" the opportunity to get fresh bread for breakfast is deprived, because at night I want to sleep, like all normal people, and not monitor the quality of the kolobok!

Of course, you can not follow the "kolobok" and everything will go on automatically, only one "BUT".
But for this, you first need to learn how to work with the dough in a bread machine and select all the parameters of a recipe that is pleasant for yourself, all its ratios.
This statement will be true only for one batch of flour and a short storage time, since during long-term storage the flour may dry out or get wet ..
As soon as the batch of flour has changed, the correction of the amount of flour in the recipe is almost inevitable, or the correction of the amount of water. It's already a choice.
There are a large number of recipes here on the forum that are insensitive to the amount of flour. This is also a good solution for automatic cooking, if you have scales and measuring spoons. It is not necessary to pour on the peephole.

We believe that you will not get away with it just like that.
.......
Write about the result.

I am writing a report, though somewhat late. Put in Custom # 1, Whole Grain Bread Program, then Modify. The first workout was done for 0 seconds, then it showed the time of the second proofing and the second workout, the second workout was done for 1 second. It seems to have survived ... BUT !!! When I later wanted to see the parameters of the created Custom # 1, I had to press the Modify button again. There was a question "replace?" Then, when it was confirmed, programming started again. That is, when choosing whole grain bread, the factory settings appeared again. So I can't say with complete certainty whether it worked out in the end or not. I think that more accurate information can be given only in the process of using a new program, that is, after pressing the Start button. I hope I made it clear ...

[Here's the touch]

Very understandable!
You can check the program settings before starting by indicating the total time, this is the sum of all the modes set.
I suppose that the second workout can be = 0 sec., And the cumulative time for the rise of the dough is 5 hours.
Cool!

Thank you so much!
I want to change the stove, I have almost agreed!
The final touch remains to wait !!!


Here's the touch
It is necessary to start the kneading program to check, and do not program the baking = 0 sec. and see what happens.
The Kenwood 450 has a glitch, bake time = 0 sec and the oven turns on baked goods for 10 minutes.
Well, it's about sad things.
Let's hope this is not the case here.

[Now we know that the maximum rise time in this stove is 5 hours and without a kneeling.]

Here's what else we managed to spy from the topic with rye bread:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=2647.0

For the Bork 800 bread maker in this recipe, on 1 page, instead of sugar, I added honey, 2 tbsp. fragrant rast. butter and 2 tsp. panifarina, but most importantly, it changed the time of the approach of the test, it is heavy. Kneading-at a slow speed-50 min-helped with a spatula, and set the approach for 3 hours at 32 degrees, baked for 1 hour. The bread went up and did not go down !!! I set the zeros to be used. Thanks for the recipe, it's great !!!!

If you set the time for 5 hours when raising the dough, and these are 1, 2 and 3 rises for 1 hour 40 minutes and turn off the kneading 1 and 2 by setting the time to = 0 sec., Then everything works.
Now we know that the maximum rise time in this stove is 5 hours and without a kneeling.
Cool!
The only pity is that lenaa I didn't write it here!

[MariV]

This is the HP that is in the advertisement - handmade bread? When I look, I quietly die laughing ...
especially from the price - almost 13,000 rubles.

MariV, dying in vain for Bork х800!
The price is certainly not Ice!
But all of us here together have already gathered so much information about this stove.
Come on in to read.
So far, only one pluses, except for 12,000 rubles for +.

I'm thinking about purchasing this particular stove to replace the old HP.

Well, in general - yes, rye proofing loves long, and in general for some recipes long proofing is needed. Then this programming turns out to be strange - maybe they still haven't figured out how to turn off the boning? ..

Already sorted out by the collective mind.
The wrap-up is deactivated and the ascent time is three times, 1 hour 40 m = 5 hours without a wrap-up.

[swelling of flour and development of gluten threads, swelling of gluten]

A long kneading is necessary for WHEAT dough and wheat-rye flour dough - since there is a higher content of wheat flour here.
Why? Because in wheat flour, when combined with water during kneading, it begins swelling of flour and development of gluten threads, swelling of gluten, which is very important for wheat flour, the dough is kneaded until smooth, the dough becomes elastic and you can feel it at hand. This is necessary for quality dough and quality bread in the future!
And be sure to have TWO razstoyki dough !!!

Rye flour is gluten free!!!!
And it makes no sense to stir rye and rye-wheat dough for a LONG time, since the dough is sticky, and there is nothing to develop in it!
For rye flour, a small, not long-term kneading is enough, until the dough is homogeneous and put it for proofing.
For rye and rye-wheat dough, ONE proofing of dough is enough!

I'm thinking about purchasing this particular stove to replace the old HP.

Do not consider it obsessive, but if I suddenly had free money to buy xn in such a volume, then I would look here in this side ... Very hot, so someone can test it ...
This, as I understand it, is a fairly new novelty. And interesting news.

Do not consider it obsessive, but if I suddenly had free money to buy xn in such a volume, then I would look here in this side ... Very hot, so someone can test it ...
This, as I understand it, is a fairly new novelty. And interesting news.

I looked, I will not comment! I will only say about side loading, it is not convenient for me. I could not see the flexibility in managing and controlling the baking process. And it is more about an oven with a finishing touch for baking.
If we talk about the capabilities of the oven, then it is cheaper on the market and there are many more worthy offers.

I will only say about side loading, it is not convenient for me.

Side loading WHAT, I wonder? .. Everything is poured into the bucket from above ...
However, I am not going to convince anyone and I did not intend to at all. Everyone is the owner of his money.

it is more about an oven with a touch-up for baking.

And the bread maker is (any) "oven with finishing touches for baking" + plus a kneader. And there everything is the same, only there is no restriction of the user to the shape of the bucket. I understand that in the same way, the limitation of the shape and volume of the bucket is removed by a separate oven, only not everyone has the place and desire to maintain full-size equipment. If we follow this logic, then a bread maker is not needed, because you can knead and strain without appliances, and bake in the oven.

I agree with Petunya, there is no way to control and interfere with the process.

Side loading WHAT, I wonder? .. Everything is poured into the bucket from above ...

Petunia was referring to the side loading of the bucket itself. In Bork 800, the bucket is loaded from above, and the "tracking" window is also from above. There is an opportunity to bring the Kolobok to mind without turning off the bakery itself and without taking out the bucket.

[All BORK-x800 parameters]

..., please refer to the program settings table below.

Dears woke up!
Well, better late than never!
Have already published your plate.
Thank you.
Without you, the people really managed to figure it out.
Published here:
----> All BORK-x800 parameters
At least print leaflet inserts for your product, this is not in the instructions.
The stove turned out to be decent. If it doesn't break, you will have competitors for a while.
You need to ask Vanya28 for help, he is a professional in hardware.
Thanks again for the table,

Hello everyone ... Arrived from vacation ... Ready to sculpt ..
To begin with, I'll say this:
- I learned to follow the kolobok without any problems. It turns out - great ..
But nevertheless, so far, all the recipes are about the same ..
1. The cover bursts
2. The top is one / two tones lighter than the sides.

On the one hand - the bread is baked ... And the excess sugar was poured in, and the current is not the case, but the lid is still lighter .. At least kill ..

The last experience was the most successful ... I can't find a link right off the bat ... In short, it's on 5 proteins + 100 ml of milk = 250 ml ...
The bread turned out to be the MOST excellent in taste ...
But ... the above BUT - remained ..... By the way, the current on it the blade formed normally, and a neat round hole remained on the bottom of the bread

Sorry, for a stupid question:
According to the parameter table, I don’t drive in .... There are everywhere 0 minutes - 1:00 h or 1:40 h ... And sho tse take?

PS: By the way, I want to note that there was NOT a SINGLE time, that would not be baked, or fell ...

And if there are people who figured out all 100 in it, then if not difficult, explain, for example ... In what mode is the boom to bake in our oven and this is the bread:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=1755.0
And how to understand ... Correspondence of modes to other models ???
Like French is _________ in X800
and in the same spirit ...

Thank you in advance for the info, if there is :-))))

Hello!
I also want to join your friendly company1
I bought a Bork X800 bread maker to replace the broken wet nurse. Now I am baking my fourth bread. There are no special problems with simple white bread, while I bake according to the recipes from the proposed book (with minor changes - flour to a kolobok and reduce yeast), but the favorite recipe from Admin Wheat-rye bread in whole grain mode turned out to be not very good. The taste is decent, and the appearance is terrible, the whole bar is not even, partially torn. And I was hoping, since there is a special mode, the result will be much better. Before that, I baked this recipe in the oven, and kneaded it in a bread maker. The result was excellent. Now the stove is baking wheat and corn bread, I'll see what the result will be.
By the way, the top of my bread is also lighter than the sides, I also do not like that the bar does not rise evenly, one part is higher, the other is lower. It doesn’t taste bad, but I would like a more ideal shape.

[gela]

gela, kneading dough in a bread machine and by hand, in a combine and baking bread in a x / oven and in the oven are DIFFERENT!

The oven can allow baking bread even from very soft dough, for example, let's make flat bread, and it will be delicious!

The bread maker requires a flour / liquid balance - this is a must!
Otherwise, we will have either hard and lumpy bread, or wet, unbaked!

Admin, I did everything strictly according to your recipe, I didn't break anything, the recipe says that bread can be completely baked in a bread maker.

It was cheese bread ... cheese











Incidentally, it was delicious ...

Ready for criticism and condemnation ...

Admin, I did everything strictly according to your recipe, I didn't break anything, the recipe says that bread can be completely baked in a bread maker.

That's right, you can bake in a bread maker!

But, the balance of flour / liquid has not been canceled! And this balance is different for each of us, based on our conditions, flour moisture, and the weather outside the window.

So I'm still doing something wrong ...
Rommie, can you tell me where to read about the balance of water and flour. It turns out that just controlling the bun is not enough for a good result. I’m sure that I’ll master it all.

In this first post, there is some basic information on what to do - start here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=33.0

Good luck!

All weekend I studied the material, here I am reporting on the result.
Wheat-rye by Admin

Regular white, the largest size.

Hello! The other day we bought an X800 bread maker, and we didn’t know about advertising at all and didn’t even read any reviews beforehand. I bake the second day - I'm very happy - everything worked out great the first time, yesterday there was a wonderful "French bread" from a book (it tastes like a real "baguette" - although it certainly sounds funny in relation to a bun), today - "Brioche" - I can't compare with what, but it turned out delicious, although in my opinion, the color of the crust should be set less than what is written in the book. The bread is completely baked, not raw, not burnt, fluffy, the crumb structure is homogeneous, well mixed. I can honestly say - I just am not overjoyed with the purchase, I want to bake all the time. Mastering new recipes and modes, making pizza at any time without wasting energy on the dough, and even the thought came to try to make pasta - if there is a mode for this test as well!

But! Before the first try, my thoughts were not so rosy - in the box with the bread maker there was neither a book with recipes, nor tables by modes, only an operation manual, which by the way does not explain much - for example, what the sound signals are signaling about (in the process of kneading - that's about what can you signal there?), and in general. It just pissed me off - I apologize, not investing the necessary information for that kind of money is just disgusting, it shows the level of attitude towards the buyer. We called the M-video, where we bought, and they told us that they often complain about this stove about the lack of a recipe book, and sent it to the M-video store website.Of course, I found everything on the site - there is a book, a manual, and a table - but why should I do this, and not they ??? Apparently because they consider us cash cows.

Total - I am very happy with the bread maker, but the attitude towards consumers is freezing.

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Total - I am very happy with the bread maker, but the attitude towards consumers is freezing.

You're just out of luck.
Two cute color brochures are included as standard.
You may have lost one.
1. User manual (modest)
2. Recipe book (better)
Accept empathy.

Bam! The progressive public shuddered from the new scornful and brutal BORK video about the "luxury of handmade bread." Here you and Mazerati at the entrance of a luxurious mansion, and a carelessly abandoned Vertu, and other glamorous obscenities. And most importantly - a samEts who has everything, but does not have enough bread.
Because of what is kipish? Oh my God, this is the new BORK stove!
I immediately tensed: I generally have a love for BORK, and only for their stoves - just *** filia. And BORG tensed when he saw that I tensed: “Attic-buldy, avert your eyes, cover-cover, muddy the water, blow aside ...”))) It didn't blow. After all, they themselves do not produce, and do not develop, as they did not develop, but simply re-stick the labels. So where does this stainless beauty come from?

Well, damn it, it is! ... Not even interesting. I thought to catch and strain, but here everything is banal and simple. Well, again from the same bag organ. We open 🔗 and find the required. BORK's aspirated name for the X800 Bread Maker is called the Breville BBM800XL. For the sake of order, I checked several other brands, under which BORK products were previously "exposed", but no. This stove has not appeared there yet. Not under Stollar, not under Gastroback, not anywhere else. Looks like fresh. It's a pity, I don't have knowledge of Chinese, and support for hieroglyphs on my computer, otherwise it was probably possible to pick up Asian counterparts of these products. After all, they themselves did not blind it (the stove)! All the previous history with BORK products does not even give a reason to think about it.
Okay, they slammed, passed off as their own, as usual, and a joke with them! ... But. But the whole world buys this stove again almost in supermarkets, in departments, such as "related products", and here again the bubble is blowing. Something elite and impossible. For fans of the elite, I'll let you know, just in case, that the price of this model around the world is from $ 130 (under the Breadman brand) to $ 249 (under the Breville brand) / Well, that is, no more than 7,700 rubles. on ours. True, in Sweden it is a little more expensive (so that they would not be at all sweet) - as much as 8,400 rubles. Well, here it costs from 12 990. Simple and unpretentious.
And this despite the fact that neither the menu is Russified with buttons, nor the second form in the kit, nor even a measuring cup with a measuring spoon, nor a book with recipes!
With the menu and controls, let's say, it is more or less clear: the previous X500 collected so much negative, and was replicated, even before BORK, in such an amount, and under such a vinaigrette of brands that it was necessary to hurry. And literally "the first horse from Baden to Baden" urgently to patch a hole in the model line of the company in Russia. Therefore, they did not reprogram, and did not alter - they eat it under the sauce of elite. And indeed - in what a decent house with Maserati and Vertu they will keep a stove with the inscriptions "Dough", "Baking", etc. This is just for cooks! Fi!
But why did he do it without prescriptions and measured? Yes, for that kind of money? Ah! ... Forget what is called! Not done for the plebeians! And so, wide ...
By the way, the fact that the man in the advertisement crumples the dough himself with his hands is also not in favor of the stove: does he crumple something himself? Either he is a masochist, or the unit has a hard time with it. Okay, let it crumple.
And where is the profit, so to speak, from such a margin? After all, the price of $ 249 around the world is the retail price already. And the purchase for dealers (which BORK itself, in fact, is) is even lower! And the difference to our 12 990 - oh how sweet! And here's where: everywhere this technique is sold, perhaps not at crossroads and bazaars, but we are diligently molding a ponty image under it. They shoot expensive advertisements, build boutiques and BORK salons.
“Another step in organizing a premium service (emphasis mine) for BORK clients was the creation of a personalized delivery system for household appliances on branded orange minibuses.” This is from their website. Fuck, right?
We read further there, on the website: “On September 1, in the very center of the capital, on Sadovaya-Spasskaya Street, a new flagship mono-brand boutique of BORK was opened. The unique project was carried out for 3 months by the German architectural bureau Ganter GmbH, which specializes in furnishing premium boutiques for brands from Porsche to Louis Vuitton and Burberry ... "
“All design elements were made in Germany and then delivered and installed in the new BORK premises. The precision of the shapes and the quality of the finish are unparalleled.
The result of the work of a tandem of craftsmen from Germany and Russia has become a light, modern luxury boutique. Its design uses impeccable finishing materials (Korean, walnut, granite) and custom-made furniture in the form of precise cubic shapes, practically without transitions and joints, giving the impression of a cast monolithic structure. "
Feeling of collective-farm bragging and swagger. And what do we trade? Chinese consumer goods, presenting it as an exclusive aesthetic product. So much for simple arithmetic in Russian ...

[there is no second form in the kit]

... After all, they themselves do not produce, and do not develop, as they did not develop, but simply re-stick the labels. So where does this stainless beauty come from?

We open 🔗 and find the required. BORK's aspirated name for the X800 Bread Maker is called the Breville BBM800XL. ...
up to $ 249 (under the Breville brand) /
....
And this despite the fact that neither the menu is Russified with buttons, nor there is no second form in the kit, not even a measuring cup with a measuring spoon, not a recipe book!
....

Well, the OEM company BORK, many people know this.
Sometimes the company chooses models not very much, like the 500 series of bread makers.
and sticks his labels on them.
These same models from Daewoo and Binaton are two times cheaper.
But also many good models choose Bork for the sticker of his label,
examples of this are juicers.
х800 is Bork's good choice.
Very good bakery, cool even I would say
well, except for the price of course.

The question of price is no longer for Bork, but for a country called Russia.
And Bork products are very often packed in stainless steel,
which adds to the price for such a "package".
And look how much Panasonic is not in Russia?

Problem or should it be ???
In the interval between kneading two and raising 1, there is a sound signal and a knock, is this how it should be?

I beg your pardon, I would like to understand why pour so much negativity on the Stove, which many have already bought and use with pleasure?
I do not need a measuring cup, there are many recipes in grams, but I would not refuse a good instruction and a recipe book.
The choice of model is a personal matter for everyone, any bread maker will bake you bread. Of course, the price is high, but no one has yet written that 12,900 rubles were taken from him by force, and in return they put a box with some piece of iron. On the radio market yesterday I saw that the price of Bork 800 increased by about a thousand ...
Let's better share positive emotions from using a good thing and show our bread to the delight of everyone.

I beg your pardon, I would like to understand why pour so much negativity on the Stove, which many have already bought and use with pleasure?
The choice of model is everyone's personal business.

Excuse me, gela, what was wrong with the oven? Maybe you did not read it carefully? Everything I said, I was talking about the company that sells this oven - about BORK. And about how she sells. And, by and large, if the choice of a model is a personal matter, then the attitude towards it (the model) is even more so. There will be an opportunity to test the stove in action, check and report the impressions. The previous one, the X500, left a disgusting impression. I consider it my duty to convey my opinion about unreasonable overpayments when buying BORK, with a very average quality, about disgusting service and an aggressive policy of selling the product.Maybe this will help someone, reading in advance, not to make a mistake when choosing and purchasing such a beautiful and warm thing - a homemade bread machine. Good luck everyone!)))

[Problem or should it be ???In the interval between kneading two and lifting 1, there is a sound signal and a knock, is this how it should be?]

Rather than having fun chatting here, it would be better to answer a man in need by assisting him.

Problem or should it be ???
In the interval between kneading two and lifting 1, there is a sound signal and a knock, is this how it should be?

You didn't say which mode was selected !!!
Most likely, on the program you have chosen, the dispenser mechanism is triggered, its lid opens and the contents, if any, are poured into the bucket.
I have a different stove, I can't say more precisely.
Let's wait, maybe the local talkers in their stoves will look and clarify.

The talkers apparently decided to rest here!

Read the answer to your question here:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=141429.0

And everything is fine with your bread maker!

Hello everybody!
I continue my experiments in baking bread. It was the turn of the corn. It is certainly not perfect, the appearance still needs to be worked on, but I liked the taste very much (they cut it while still warm, could not stand it).

🔗

[gela]

Hello everybody!
I continue my experiments on baking ...

Excellent, gela!
Write still a complete bread recipe or link to it on the forum.
And don't forget to help others by reading their requests!

I ask for help and thank you for understanding the respondent, but unfortunately, maybe his happiness (hopefully happiness) who has another stove !!!
To be honest, the mode is the usual one, no frills, just a crackle goes at this moment, which I indicated.
I would like to draw your attention, it was not for nothing that I said that the main thing is HAPPINESS and pleasure from the stove and no matter which one ... my family is personally happy with this stove, the bread is just a miracle (although they did not have stoves before). There is only one minus and it is most likely ours, we do not use it to the fullest, but this is due to the dumbest instruction ... in general, we do and do and I like everything!
I ask for help, I repeat again - maybe this is a marriage. Will get through to those. center is simply unrealistic!

[naxapb]

Will get through to those. center is simply unrealistic!

naxapb , You have not indicated which city you are from in your profile. I called the service center from Moscow by phone 8-800-700-55-88 and easily got through.

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Most likely what you are describing is a factory defect, refer to Djana she has the same HP. Ask if she has noises.

I ask for help and thank you for understanding the respondent, but unfortunately, maybe his happiness (hopefully happiness) who has another stove !!!
To be honest, the mode is the usual one, no frills, just a crackle goes at this moment, which I indicated.

I do not crack anything, sometimes something clicks in it, probably when the program automatically changes to the next stage.

[To be honest, the mode is the usual one, no frills, just a crackle (knock) goes at this moment, which I indicated.]

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To be honest, the mode is the usual one, no frills, just a crackle (knock) goes at this moment, which I indicated.
... but this is due to the dumbest instruction...
....

An explanation of the instructions and a description of all the modes of your HP here:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=141429.0
And you do not specify again which program or mode is selected in HP, how can you help you in this case?

Problem or should it be ???
In the interval between kneading two and lifting 1, there is a sound signal and a knock, is this how it should be?

I read the instructions for you.
Local talkers seem to be resting here or talking about marriage.
Here is an extract from the instruction, where everything is said quite accurately:
Page 24 of the instruction:
5. Open the lid of the dispenser and place
additional ingredients.
Please note that the bottom
the dispenser must be completely closed.
The dispenser will automatically add ingredients
at the right time.
(The dispenser always works 8 minutes before the end kneading 2 and on all programs, except modes JAM (jam) and BAKE ONLY (baked goods) - author's note)
Dispenser automatic dispensing
does not occur in JAM and BAKE ONLY modes.
Page 26 of the instruction:
At stageknead 2 '(knead 2) the dough is being formed.
At this point, the blade spins faster and in both directions -
clockwise and counterclockwise. You can see that
at this stage, the folding blade will be automatically several times
fold into a horizontal position and return again
in vertical. This action causes the lump of dough to absorb
all the ingredients left in the corners of the bread pan.
Dispenser automatically adds ingredients in 8 minutes
before the end of the stage
(here you can check how the HP will behave when choosing a time kneading 2 less than 8 minutes, but this is already a subtlety - author's note)

In your HP, Bork x800, this noise is caused by the actuation of the dispenser lid opening mechanism.
It's okay with your bread maker!

Open the lid of the HP dispenser and wait for "your noise" to appear and you will see how the bottom opens and your question closes!
Then close the cover of the dispenser.
And apparently this is happening in 8 minutes, not after the end Mix 2.
You can check it now and think on your own.
And if you write down the result, it will be absolutely wonderful!


Note:
Where is the dispenser lid you can see
See pages 12 and 14 for instructions.