Kitchen machine Kenwood (2)

[Masinen]

Masinen, Maaash I want MK, although I don't have Ken, but I really like to watch your videos.

[Nataliya]

Nataliya,
I want to shoot a video with my duty bread recipe))
And with Kesha
We need to get together)
My mom will come, so I will)

Well, so will MK

I only have a dough roll out of this set, but I don't have one for slicing)
I didn't buy them, because there is a separate pasta machine))
Read above, I wrote)

Mashunya! Give a master class!

I want to shoot a video with my duty bread recipe))

I will wait

[Dance]

Dance, natalisha_31, Masinen,
Isn't there a forum for those to whom Kenwood pays extra for each review? At least I do not really understand why a post without sufficient praises to Kenwood is met with hostility here and something needs to be proven / controversial. And if you don't want to do it?
The result - I didn't see objective reviews here - the branch misleads potential buyers. At least initially I expected more.
Oh yes, you again will not believe the opinion without some evidence.

[azh]

azh, well, that's another matter)

And the reviews here are real, and by the way, no one attacked you, that you didn't like Kenwood)
We are all different, who likes and who does not)

For this, the branch was created.

[azh]

azh,

Isn't there a forum for those to whom Kenwood pays extra for each review?

oh how great it would be if kenwood paid me
eh, dreams dreams

and if it is serious, then you have already been told more than once that if you have not made friends with this unit, then it is simply not yours. maybe you don’t need that, a boshik on plastic would be enough. or moulineh. decent and not expensive unit.
with regards to kenwood, and even more so you have it in a light configuration, then 60 pieces is a very good price. oh, if only I could buy naked for that kind of money, well, I was dreaming again

[azh,]

azh,I'm just curious, why did Kenwood disappoint you so much?
Well, they would just specifically share their impressions: what they expected from the unit, and what they actually got. I think your opinion would be very helpful too. Maybe someone would be taken away from an expensive purchase in time. And is it really only the pasta cutting attachments that added a small plus to this machine against the background of all the minuses. Don't be offended. It's just very, very interesting.
I am for truth and objectivity!

[azh]

azh, I understand correctly that the topic misled you about Kenwood's ability to perform his main function as a planetary mixer and kneader? Have you tried it in these qualities and were disappointed? Do you have a better mixer?
And if you are disappointed only in induction and in some nozzles, then it's strange ... Just in this topic there are very different opinions about them, many prefer separate devices.

I should at least buy naked for that kind of money

Eh ... I still had to buy 96 for 59 thousand.

Eh ... I still had to buy 96 for 59 thousand.

if there was none, then yes, but when there is, then the second is not needed

Eh ... I still had to buy 96 for 59 thousand.

Ritus, why are you crying: empathy: What has left us is not ours.

just curious why Kenwood disappointed you so

Duc you painted it like this here that I thought that the cache for food itself was climbing into the refrigerator (well, either there is such a nozzle or it will be soon).
Well, more seriously, I thought that it was a completely different stage in the development of technology. Moreover, there was no reason to doubt - the dough mixer, rolling and noodle cutter were just at the master class - they worked with them. Cool. I liked it a lot.Probably because we did not have either one or the other (except for a kneader in a bread maker).
Accordingly, the expectations from the blender and the combine were appropriate. But it turned out that the combine and blender lose to the existing stationary. By function and usability.
Now the understanding has come that the attachments for the cache need to be chosen thoroughly and understand what to expect from them. I originally wanted a juicer - fick, I already know that it is not a competitor to the existing one.
I fell for an ad for Kenwood - they say induction cooks / fries. Yes, if necessary, then it will stir. (yes you yourself read that "About Cooking Chef KM096" is written on our website). Only now it turned out that it is not very convenient as a pan. Or habits need to be changed. You used to chop on a combine, throw it into a frying pan / saucepan. And now it seems like you need to first chop everything, put it on plates, and then start the saucepan. And when the saucepan is busy, it will not use anything else (often more than one dish is prepared).
Plus it was necessary to adapt to the regimes.
Plus I chose not successful test recipes whether I did not do it right (like I organized a competition in semolina with a cooker)
There were also some misunderstandings - why, for example, it was impossible to use induction separately, or why, at a certain temperature, the stirring speed was limited ...
This was the first impression while playing with the device. Now, for the most part, in the hands of his wife - it is possible that she has a different opinion (I find out).

[azh]

azh, you will decide whether the Kenwood website misled you or the forum)))) I read all the topics on this machine and even a little thought did not arise to take it as an induction pan with a stirrer for hot dishes! A lot and in detail have been written here about the speed limit, the inability to use induction separately and all the other nuances you described.
Try all the same to test the car for its intended purpose.

except for the kneader in the bread maker)

Are you satisfied with the bread maker?

There were still some misunderstandings - why, for example, it is impossible to use induction separately,

this question is also a little alarming, but here the girls found a way out, they simply do not wear a whisk and turn on induction with a whisk as if
but in general I plan to heat water or there is something else on the stove, and therefore pour it into the cache and do what I need
But I still think a lot of things now, I don't even know exactly where I will put my miracle. Suddenly I will be disappointed too)

or why, at the same time, at a certain temperature, the stirring speed is limited ...

I read about this moment already in the semolina recipe, it says how to get around, or rather remove the lock. Probably for some purpose it was done.
For example, eggs are brewed (more precisely, they are boiled), at temperatures above 60 degrees, maybe that's why a restriction was made there to make custard cream and not think what temperature you put there

Induction can be done almost separately: if 1 time in 30 seconds it quietly buzzes for 1 second - for me personally, it's not a problem.
It is also clear about the speed limit: at high temperatures and high revs it can be traumatic, therefore it requires additional control. This is the kind of control Kesha offers for 3 seconds - nothing more. A kind of protection from the fool. I checked it, turned on the maximum speed with the maximum temperature and is free again until the end of the process.
All these explanations and how to get around these "inconveniences" are described in detail in the instructions. But who reads it! Everyone is smart anyway.
And then some reviews look something like this: we have sweet carrots, why do we need your honey, I held it in my hands - I didn't like it, it's sticky ...

oh, I hope that at least there will be instructions in Russian for it. although I doubt it very much.
girls (and boys), if you can send me a Russian manual by mail, or at least take a picture with your phone and throw off screenshots of the main points?
but this is in the event that we will not have it in Russian.

[Oksana]

Oksana, here is the instruction for the car, if that ... 🔗

[Ksenia]

Ksenia, thanks, Ksyusha)

You know, Azh, I’m reading you and wondering! When buying a mixer, expecting it to run to the supermarket for groceries (or to the refrigerator) is at least silly! You don't buy a car with the hope that it will fly at an altitude of 10,000 m, like an airplane? I personally wrote that this is primarily a mixer (cream beater), and not a multicooker-frying-park and something else there! Who is to blame for you that you didn’t understand the true state of affairs and bought the device, placing excessive hopes on it ... Therefore, you were advised to hand it over as long as possible.
I have the most budgetary KM 336, I drive it "in the tail and in the mane" - that is, he whips the custard protein cream, twice - the protein for the meringue, with a full load, sand-whipping and kneading -3 types; biscuits -3 types, tavrichesky cream, cream, sour cream. I whip all this every day (work) and I am very pleased with it! Before that, I had already buried several cream whippers, they could not stand it. Ken plows and dances. The most important thing is why you bought it.

Now, for the most part, in the hands of his wife - it is possible that she has a different opinion (I find out).

Vooot! It was necessary to start with this!
And now I would like to know the opinion head of the transport department wives.

[Dance]

Dance, arguing with a person who does not distinguish a corolla from a pistil / stamen (I mean) is probably not correct.
The fact that the comrade decided, as you say, to show off is not because he is a show-off, but simply wanted to give his little wife to the DR not only a beautiful box (the number of admirers in this thread in the address of Kesha played a primary role, by the way) , but also try to cook on the contents of this box (to heighten the effect) - at least once a year you can afford tacos, well, like show off in front of your wife? (yeah, in front of her is that with which it will soon be 20 years old). Well, yes, I admit, it didn't work. And therefore - another mistake - like not a fool himself, but someone else did not understand or did not buy in addition - he does not know what to add (nozzle?) - asked here (in fact, from this, the controversy began out of the blue).
In short: I propose to close the question on this. Three letters (my nickname) do not bend anymore. Moreover, the apparatus was finally transferred into good hands yesterday, and is already preparing for the third day without my participation (on the first of three I was still trying to rehabilitate myself).
Something like this...

PS I really like the top cover of the cache - I look polished into it - oh, how it slims me

[azh]

azh, I just asked about the bread maker. Since at one time she also could not make friends with her and sold her, I can say that she gave it away for nothing. And you are using
The main question is, is your wife now, at least happy or thinks the same as you?

I love my bread maker, but somehow I will definitely try to knead the dough for bread with Ken, and bake it in a cartoon.

Is the wife now, at least happy or thinks the same as you?

It seems like yes. but even if she is not happy, she will not say. Therefore, let's see how often it will be used. Hopefully not like a bread maker (the first week every day, and then on average once a month)

and yesterday my husband gave me a scolding that I bake too much, that there are big bills for electricity. Eh, and now there will also be cache, I began to doubt, or maybe not take it, because there will be even more electricity going away.

[Oksana]

Oksana, I sympathize with you and your European economical life.

You can't deny yourself to such an extent! And then in old age you will bite your elbows.
Don't be offended, but I have good examples.
The husband has all relatives in Austria and Germany. So I am completely shocked by their savings.

As a result, his aunt retired and everything that she saved for her life, denying herself everything, saving on heating and electricity, was stolen from her by thieves.
They deceived her and she gave them the money herself.
And she denied herself everything.
So think about it.

And no offense))
In Russia, too, it is not sweet now, all the counters are. Both the crisis and the money have depreciated.
But we are not discouraged! Everything will be fine!

You can't deny yourself to such an extent!

yes here you are right. No hard feelings. And my husband said buy. then he joked that but you wanted a kneader, so you will have a kneader, but you won't bake. you will make dough ... and sell
our country is generally shocking for many. people from Germany came to us and were shocked by the prices.
What can we say, that we pay the company 30 euros just for the fact that we have their electric cable going to the meters, plus we give another company on account of the electricity itself. generally fun.
Well, what can you do, without electricity in our time it is impossible.

[Oksana]

Oksana,
Nice to read your post))

Glad you read my mind correctly)

By the way, I understand you perfectly. I lived in Bosnia for a year. There, too, if you don't use electricity, you pay for the service, either 10 euros, or 15. And plus to that, what you spent.
And salaries are low, there are no words to describe, they pay a penny. In total, I took my husband away from there. Well, I can't live like that. He comes from there)
But I can say that it was a very positive experience for me! The test in life, I thought that I could not stand it, but I held out for almost a year and I know what it means to deny myself and save.
As I remember, the horror is simple

The test in life, I thought that I could not stand it, but I held out for almost a year and I know what it means to deny myself and save.

We, fortunately, not everything is so sad, but now my husband is trying to hold back the money so that he can fly on vacation, the summer practically did not come to our region this year. Nothing, with words. it will be easier for my husband for a month, my parents will start coming to the child, so we will heal
p.s. and with me on you)

[Oksana]

OksanaWhen we had to deal with our income and expenses, we began to record all our expenses with an accuracy of a penny by item of expenditure. At the same time, they did not change anything in their way of life.
In about six months, a fairly clear picture of the ratio of expenses (groups of expenses) has emerged. Then it becomes clearer where and what can be corrected.
Next stage - as, so as not to the detriment of the quality of life.
For example, products. Sometimes we forget about something in our refrigerator in the far corner, and then throw it away, but it was worth the money!
Or a jar of canned food, just in case. You can simply destroy it with a piece of bread and not eat enough, then pull something else into your mouth, or you can make a salad out of it and feed the whole family.
Our young people are also quite actively changing children's things, who grew up from what, because children grow up quickly, they will put on different clothes 2-3 times and are already small. Etc.
The same rest: many are now resting by exchange, this is a significant savings on living in a place of rest + expansion of the circle of acquaintances. Etc.
Electricity. If it is possible to install a three-rate meter, this will also help to save money due to evening and night consumption.
Water. If you wash, for example, dishes by hand, then you can first wash everything in one container, for example, by plugging the sink, and then only rinse the already almost clean dishes.
What to wash. You can also make gels, washing powders yourself - this is both more economical and environmentally friendly.
If you have a dishwasher, don't run it half empty. The same applies to the washing machine.
Just analyze your habits.
Good luck!

Girls, can you mix something hot in a non-induction cache?

[Mayan]

Mayan, I think you can)

[Mayan]

Mayanjust be careful. Yesterday I was preparing mashed potatoes on the stove, and decided to stir in Kesh. So after a minute of mixing, Kesha dropped the speed to a minimum and, until I cooled him down, he did not want to increase it in any way. I have an induction Kesha, but I did not wear a protective cover. I think if I put it on, it would work without changing the speed.

Is a protective cover in induction like a splash cover in a simple one?

Not really. This is an inverted cover that fits over the body of the instrument and protects the motor from overheating.

In Russia, too, it is not sweet now, all the counters are.

In Russia - HA-RA-SHO Many are better than in European countries!

In Russia - HA-RA-SHO

Irochka's golden words.

Yes girls !! Good!! I am convinced of this every day!
When I look about these Arabs who flooded Europe

And we have beauty !!!! I have no words!!

[Olga VB]

Olga VB, Thank you

[Azh]

Azh, I did not want to offend you! Not even in my thoughts. I just wanted to say not to pin excessive hopes. Sorry if you offended! I think my wife will appreciate your gift! Even if not immediately ...

[Mayan]

Mayanjust be careful. Yesterday I cooked puree on the stove, and decided to stir it in Kesh. So after a minute of mixing, Kesha dropped the speed to a minimum and, until I cooled him down, he did not want to increase it in any way. I have an induction Kesha, but I did not wear a protective cover. I think if I put it on, it would work without changing the speed.

Ay-yay-yay, Olga!
Again, we don’t teach materiel?
Literally I wrote about it yesterday for the hundredth time that Kesha slows down so that no one leaves the hotter without control. And if you still need high speed at high temperatures, then there is a coveted button for this.

[Olga VB]

Olga VB, we do not teach, aha! Therefore, we scold the equipment and the Chinese for poor quality. But this is not about me. That's my fault. I interfered for only two minutes - I had only five potatoes, and I loaded them into Kesha only because I had one in my work, and I do so many by hand.
Ol, what's the button? I slept again.

[Belka13]

Belka13, Olya, this is the "P" button - pulse mode, you need to press and hold it until the cache picks up the required speed. Then everything will be done quickly))

[Violin]

Violin, Thank you so much! From now on I will be more attentive and more careful, because I love my household and kitchen appliances very dearly and try to protect them. Thanks to the forum for the advice!

Virgins, who makes protein custard in Kesh, how do you pour the syrup so that it doesn't get on the walls? is it even possible?

[Ksyusha]

Ksyusha, I can't get it so that I don't get it) so to pour the syrup, I remove the bowl and introduce it, whipping with a hand mixer. When I have poured everything in, put the bowl back and beat until tender.

Girls, do not do nonsense, you do not need to shoot anything. So that the syrup does not fall on the walls, just reduce the speed for the time of syrup infusion to 3, at the end of the infusion, increase to the maximum and then as usual. The whisk scatters the syrup at high speed not only along the walls of the bowl, I forgot about the speed a couple of times and washed the whole kitchen and even got into my hand. Try