Dumpling
azh, will cure rolling from what? It is not clear what the wife was disappointed in to treat with rolling)
Your machine is a great planetary mixer, head and shoulders above, as you say, many others. But if you bought a meat grinder / juicer and received a mixer, then this is not treated with a noodle set)
azh
Quote: Varenik
machine - great planetary mixer
yes, for 60 thousand rubles. I just foolishly hoped that for this money, plus a little bit we can at least make noodles normally
Dumpling
azh, one question - are you and your wife fond of baking bread or pastry (hearth bread, sourdough bread, biscuits, meringues, custard cream, soufflé, marshmallows)? If not, sell. You can buy an excellent noodle-cutting machine for 13 thousand.
I'll write to you that the noodles can be made normally, I do it myself, I'm very happy, and you have some other requirements for the noodles, higher than mine, and again disappointment;)
azh
Dumpling, Yes, I am not fond of anything at all (acre of the first week, well, a maximum of two - until I play enough, well, or out of hunger, when my wife leaves, let's say to the dacha - in this case I have a second wife - they call me a slow cooker).
The wife periodically plays within the capabilities of a bread machine (essno good), sometimes even more (more high-calorie) ... We have not tried this on Kenwood yet ...
With homemade noodles, I guess in advance what will happen (what, did you go to master classes in vain ?!) - a lot of cream, calories ... But delicious ... with all the consequences
azh
Quote: azh
You can buy an excellent noodle-cutting machine for 13 thousand.
and a reference to a specific device?
Dance
Guys, let's figure it out - Kenwood was originally invented as cream whipping machine, well, + a spatula (for thick cream) and a hook (for steep dough). And that's it! See the history of their development. Then they began to invent the stop. nozzles, as it used to be manual. mixer and + leg for a blender, coffee grinder, etc. Therefore, the main (and most effective!) function of this machine is cream whipping. Even kneading dough is secondary for her. And therefore, if you are not a pastry chef, you do not need to often and thickly beat creams with high quality - you are a little out of the way with him.
Olga VB
azh, do not suffer - hand it back to the store until 2 weeks have passed.
Well, you and Kesha didn’t love each other, why rape yourself and him?
Personally, he never disappointed me.

About the test. I knead first without fats for min until the flour is completely wet, then I let it rest for 15 minutes, then check the consistency, add liquid / flour, if necessary, then fats and stir again. If everything is in order with the consistency, I turn on the main batch at "2" until the dough is smooth.
By the way, the instructions recommend mixing yeast dough on "2" in 080 Cache.
Maryka
Quote: Varenik

Mayan, 3 months ago, the 220volt store briefly threw off the price of a set to 11 thousand. Watch out, catch such drops.
Aha, I will watch!
Dumpling
azh, type in the search here on the site "testoraskatki", will give out topics with detailed reviews of different and owner reviews.
Kara
Quote: azh

Yes, the problem is that almost everything is "defective". And, if not a cut, then at least higher / better (and several times cheaper and, most importantly, much more convenient).

azh, but show a photo of your Kenwood (I'm trying to understand how it doesn't fit under your cabinets)

And the most important question, did you actually buy it for what purposes?
adelinalina
Quote: azh
So I think, can at least rolling out help? We don't have this pribluda yet ...
is your wife fond of pasta? do not be afraid to be disappointed in rolling, after all, it makes a dough only 15 cm wide, suddenly this will not be enough for the dough, and then you will say that it is nonsense.
Quote: azh
yes, for 60 thousand rubles.
no, I don’t argue that the figure sounds scary, but for us it’s only 750 euros, but not so much, for a real machine with metal internals. You can, of course, buy cheaper, take the same Kenwood prospero, it will cost about 300 euros, or bosch, too, for 300-400 euros, but they even look flimsy and plastic.
you could of course not take kenwood, if your kitchen size allows you to buy only what you need separately. i.e. dough mixer, if you need it (hmm, here I was thinking, because Kenwood has a good dough mixer, kitchen has nothing too, but when working with him, I know that he has problems, although probably in home use of them it will not be visible, well, kitschen costs like kenwood, some models are even more expensive, then it makes sense to take something else? hmm ... (is there a smiley face that scratches a turnip?))
then separately take a blender, meat grinder, juicer, etc., etc.
I initially considered Kenwood as a kneader, and it doesn't even stop me that I'll take it completely empty for 840 (if I have time, and if not, then for 870 euros), and this turns out to be 67-70 thousand rubles. and the amount is certainly not small, but I studied for more than one year and came to the conclusion that so far nothing better has been invented for the house. And then there is also the opportunity to supplement with other pribluds, which is also an unspeakable plus, and in a year, little by little, I will acquire everything.
Masinen
The juicer is bad. But for pasta, the set is good
Dance
No guys! Azh! If you take a kena to cook, stew, etc., there is a special for this. gadgets, and if the main purpose of the acquisition is to beat, knead, then yes, this is the unit that you need. Everything depends on the goal. This is NOT a multicooker, multi-steamer! If you approach it correctly, there will be no disappointment. For my many years of practice, I have not found the best cream whisk ...
Masinen
Tanya, I agree with you 100 !!!

If it went like that, like I bought a kaku, then you can safely take it to the store, because it will remain defective and bad.
Oh, I have a proposal!
Trade with Rita!
She is 020 to you, and you are 096 to her and everyone will be happy!
Dance
Quote: Masinen

Oh, I have a proposal!
Trade with Rita!
She is 020 to you, and you are 096 to her and everyone will be happy!
Azh, that's a really good idea!
Svet99lana
Quote: Masinen

Tanya,
Oh, I have a proposal!
Trade with Rita!
She is 020 to you, and you are 096 to her and everyone will be happy!
I also support !!!
Azh If you take a good quality kitchen assistant, it's Kenwood !!!
If only for home use, then 020 is enough !!! and the price is lower (for a lower price and the requirements for the car will be lower).
+ you will find the accessories you need for your family! And then you will be happy!
Natali S
Yes, yes, it is worth changing, especially since they will not be accepted into the store, since they have already been used
azh
Are they changing? What are you? That we would not have the latest and most sophisticated model ??? Never! My wife has already bought special beautiful boxes for corollas / pribludy. I freed a separate kitchen drawer for this case - I put everything there neatly and beautifully. In general, almost everything is ready for throwing dust in the eyes. The final touch remained - a few more abruptly (in appearance) nozzles remained to be bought - so that the guests would be completely on the spot
Well, for complete happiness ourselves, it remains to master the recipes - those, with the preparation of which the cache will plug the existing fleet of equipment into the belt ...

Natali S
Song
Quote: azh
In general, almost everything is ready for throwing dust in the eyes.
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Kara
Quote: azh

In general, almost everything is ready for throwing dust in the eyes.

Quote: Song *

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azh, You will forgive me generously, but after that for some reason it seems to me that all your messages in this thread are just "throwing dust in the eyes".

It's like "bought a Bentley with a motorcycle license"

A technique of this level is not a fashionable piece of furniture, or rather, not only a fashionable piece of furniture. Although...

Can you still show a photo of your Kenwood?
azh
Come on, I hope you understand that I'm not serious about dust. (I just caught myself thinking that beautiful appliances in the kitchen also mean something)
Kara
I will tell you a secret that in the KITCHEN beautiful technology without skillful hands means nothing at all
Dance
If you want to show off in front of your friends and acquaintances, then you didn't have to buy kenwood ...
Song
Quote: Kara

azh, after that for some reason it seems to me that all your posts in this thread are just "throwing dust in the eyes".
Quote: Dance

If you want to show off in front of your friends and acquaintances, then you didn't have to buy kenwood ...
Kara, Dance,
azh
better tell me where you get recipes for cache with induction.
Found here a recipe for semolina porridge - made it - mine did not impress me.
I want to show off - cook what a thread is so-so.
Musenovna
We're all going to defend Kenwood here. Because in comparison with similar devices it has no equal. Reliable, beautiful, functional. And what really good quality device is cheap ?! Look at the plastic of the tips, at the whisks themselves.
I would buy kitschen if I were you, but it's pretty girlish. Well, he doesn't cook, but he's handsome.
Do you have a recipe book for induction ?! There is a lot to cook from there.
azh
no book. Not included. No books, coupons or anything else.
Kara
Did you take it from your hands? Each new Kenwood comes with a recipe book
kseniya D
Look on YouTube. There are several videos in Russian with cooking.

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Ir, I did not have. I didn't take it with my hands.
Kara
Xenia, so you seem to have bought it for a very long time?

The last couple of years, they also put a coupon in the kit, send it to the address and send an additional huge book of recipes, an extended version, so to speak.
Sl @ wall @
Quote: Kara

Did you take it from your hands? Each new Kenwood comes with a recipe book
We didn't have either. No book, no coupon. We took a new one from the store.
Matilda_81
Quote: azh
better tell me where you get recipes for cache with induction.

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kseniya D
Ir, I bought 560 for a long time, and in November last year I bought 084, and sold a small one.

azh, in general, in my opinion, any technique should be approached with the desire and desire to love it. And you, it turns out, predict yourself in advance that you will not be able to cook anything worthwhile, because he is already poor for you (your words). Whatever you start to cook, I think the result will be unsatisfactory. Why do you need such an expensive and useless technique in the house?
I am insanely happy with my car, because I dreamed about it and fell in love with it right away. Without her, I feel like no hands. First of all for me it is a kneader, and then everything else. By the way, yesterday Inokenty cooked me some cream for the cake while I was baking the cakes. And without him, I would have to stand at the stove with a whisk, constantly stirring the mass. And he did it better than I could. Cream without a single lump, completely homogeneous. Then she turned off the heating, and left stirring, so he also cooled it for me faster.
m0use
And yesterday morning Kesha ground one and a half kilograms of minced meat for me, then kneaded it with salt and spices, wound the dumplings in the harvester, rolled it out by rolling it out, I put the remains of the minced meat into a shell with him, so you and sausages for dinner and in the evening takuuyu charlotte muddied with apples, pears and plums! How I used to live without him
Olga VB
Quote: azh
Found here a recipe for semolina porridge - made it - mine did not impress me.
Here, please, in more detail
Do you cook tastier semolina porridge on the stove, or do you dislike semolina porridge at all?
In the first case, I just won't believe you, and in the second I won't understand why you prepared it at all
What exactly didn't impress you? Taste? Cooking speed? Convenience of cooking?
What?
Parallel
azh, for me Kesha is first of all a dough mixer-cream-beater) I use it every day and not once) but - I bake cakes to order, so for me this is all relevant. just now I was making a poppy layer, it is baking, then I will make a vanilla and chocolate biscuit, and I also need to whip the cream and boiled milk. If I didn't bake all the time, I wouldn't really need it ...I have a separate dough sheeter with a motor. By the way, the same firm like that Kenwood turns to for its dough sheeters - Atlas. The only thing I really want for Kesha is a rub for cottage cheese and berries. and I'm still thinking about a combine or high-speed cutting, although I’ll probably look for a separate device - so that vegetables can be cut / grated / made into cubes.
In general, my conclusion is that if you do not bake and do not really plan - hand it back or sell it, well, it will be a pity if such an assistant just stands there for beauty. may he rather please someone else than sadden you.
Natalia K.
I read this topic all the time, although I have a budget mixer Bomann. I love my Testomes tenderly and tenderly. I don't understand at all those people who buy expensive equipment to show off in front of someone. We buy equipment for this, so that first of all it brings joy to the owner, and not in order to seem cooler than others.
Parallel
Nataliya, I agree to all 100! I also had a budget gastro-grocer, just for a permanent job - Kesha suits me much more, it's a completely different level, so I bought it. and so for myself, I even managed with a budget option, and even with a little Boshik, in principle Boshik and now I use small portions of cream or dough) I love both assistants dearly)
Natalia K.
Gulya, Correctly and did what Kesha bought. You then bake cakes to order, so that the machine justifies itself completely. I don’t do this and a budget model is enough for me.
He whips me one egg
But in order to cook semolina porridge, I would not have spent that much money
Parallel
Quote: natalisha_31
But in order to cook semolina porridge, I would not have spent that much money

and a toad would strangle me)))) I found a recipe in the microwave on our forum, and then I thought, thought - well, why cook there?))) there on the stove for two minutes)) and decided in the old fashioned way) )) although I'm sure that it will turn out great in micro too - I make custards in it, they come out great. In my Kesh, I regret the lack of induction from time to time - but only for a cream wet meringue ... so I almost always need it, but okay - so far I'm whipping over a water bath. and so, for example, for choux pastry, I probably would not have used induction - there is nothing to do on the stove, a minute or two is needed.
m0use
Gulya, but how in our Kesh protein custard is made, I used to be afraid to approach it, but now it's easy!
Olga VB
Semolina is a special case. Just one of them, just for example.
For example, I have always been a champion in semolina porridge: all the reluctant people ate it avidly. But the way Kesha does it ... It turns out the most delicate airy cream! Song, not porridge!
And, by the way, good semolina porridge will not work on the stove in 2 minutes, so - the kindergarten option, from which many children did not want to go to kindergarten
natushka
Quote: Olga VB
and on the stove in 2 minutes, good semolina porridge will not work
Nuuu you can argue with that. I have very tasty, and everyone has different tastes. Just because of semolina porridge, buying Kenwood is really not worth it. The machine has other tasks. I don't like most of all a juicer and a blender, there are attachments that are easy to do without (for different people - different priorities), but a worthwhile thing. I like it most of all as a mixer, of course, and attachments: a combine, a dough sheeter, a high-speed one. The cube cutter is convenient for large volumes, I can't really make friends with a sieve - it rolls on the moving bowl more than it wipes, maybe that's the case with me.
Belka13
Quote: natushka
rolls on a moving bowl more than wipes, maybe I have
Try flipping the rough side up. And the speed is higher. It helped me.
julia_bb
Quote: natushka
I can't really make friends with a sieve - it rolls on the moving bowl more than it wipes, maybe that's the case with me.
Did you try to press the spatula more against the net?
Rituslya
I am very pleased with my Kenka. Just really, really. I've never owned a car like this in my life.Yes, I confess honestly that I did not even think about purchasing it. The price of the issue was very confusing.
Yes, she still confuses me very much. It's just that at some point, the hochuha still prevailed, and there was a bit of accumulation, so it happened. He appeared!
Induction, yes, of course, I really want it, and I will get it in the future, as soon as I save it, although ... Do I need this? Well, yes, to be And I don’t make custard cakes, and I don’t have semolina porridge, and the Bechamel sauce may come in handy for me once, probably in a hundred years.
Well, that's just hotzza in itself and that's it. But expensive! Very expensive! My husband, in my opinion, still does not know the true price of 020, otherwise, probably, he would still not recover from sickness.
Yesterday the bread was kneaded. Very good. The bowl is clean at the end of the kneading, the dough gently slid off the hook. The tale is simple. I didn't expect, though I hoped. True, I did not follow the order of the bookmark, but immediately everything in the bowl: loose with oil, and then diluted with water. Today here Olga I read it in the morning, so it turns out the oil is already closer to the end. Well, live and learn. Here I am such a wretched culinary specialist, but I think about induction.
julia_bb
Quote: Rituslya
My husband, in my opinion, still does not know the true price of 020, otherwise, probably, he would still not recover from sickness.
Exactly) My husband also does not know about the prices for my devices, which I reduce by half. He does not check, thank God, otherwise he would get sick too
Rituslya
Yesterday I also liked Kenka very much. I poured all this flour and oil mixture into the bowl, turned it on, well, accordingly, everything stuck to the walls. While she was walking and looking for the scraper, grumbling and lamenting, Kenka picked everything up himself.
In general, I have 2 Kenka now: a parrot Kenka and a big Kenka.
When yesterday I told my husband that I was going to make bread in Kenka, he thought for a long time how I would cook something there with the help of a parrot.
Quote: julia_bb
I halve it.
oh, and I'm not talking about anything. Everything would be fine if these Wishlist were not so expensive.
natushka
Quote: Belka13
Try flipping the rough side up. And the speed is higher. It helped me.
I tried it on all sides, but with an increase in speed, everything flies and the lid is covered completely.

Quote: julia_bb
Did you try to press the spatula more against the net?
Pressed, adjusted. The last time I began to wipe the baked apples for the marshmallow, the lid closed with difficulty for some reason, and then I had to carry it to the service to take out the spatula. Now it's even scary to use a sieve, suddenly again ..

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