indy2004
Good bread! Question to the owners of Bosch MUM 4 ... - what is the dough hook scraper for? and can you do without it? Thanks for attention.
Galleon-6
And I want to ask about such a brand - the Clatronic KM 3350 food processor. Can anyone say something?
julifera
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And I want to ask about such a brand - the Clatronic KM 3350 food processor. Can anyone say something?

Reviews about Klatronic combines bad reviews ...
Galleon-6
Oh, what a pity. and so it is painted, well, just beauty. What are their problems?
julifera
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Oh, what a pity. and so it is painted, well, just beauty. What are their problems?

Unreliable they break.
Daffi
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How difficult it is to decide, you want a not very expensive one. but to do everything.
If you wrote what exactly you need to do with the combine, then you would be helped to decide on the model.
Daffi
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I want a meat grinder, a blender and a bowl with three attachments (for dough, proteins and cream)
You need any of the BOSCH MUM 4 or 5 series. They have a meat grinder, bowl blender and stand mixer. In addition, there is a nozzle with graters and shredders - an indispensable thing in the harvesting season.
I have a Bosch MUM 4655.
Galleon-6
And there are not so many claims to the device, is everything satisfied? And yet, where you can order cheaper, you can tell me.
Daffi
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And there are not so many claims to the device, is everything satisfied? And yet, where you can order cheaper, you can tell me.
I described all the advantages and disadvantages of the combine in the review. There is also a photo. The link was corrected.
Cheaper ordering in online stores. I order from local, Kharkov. They bring it, I inspect it on the spot and pay. If there are problems (and there was such a thing), I return the equipment and take the money.

You can search online stores through Yandex Market.

Read reviews on these harvesters on Yandex Market, but keep in mind that people often operate devices without reading the instructions. Therefore, everything breaks down for them, and they are unhappy.
I was a little surprised by the number of negative reviews for my cobine model. And this despite the fact that it is my combine that is considered one of the best on the market. This is not my idea, these are the test results on the test.de website.
Galleon-6
And the power of 550 is not enough? I also need to knead the dough for pies well, this harvester copes with this and whether it works loudly. I apologize for so many questions, but I want to buy and not regret it.
Daffi
And the power of 550 is not enough?
It is enough for any operation.
I also need to knead the dough for pies well, this harvester copes with this and whether it works loudly.
The harvester can handle all types of dough, including bread and yeast dough. Personally, it is more convenient for me to make yeast dough and dough for dumplings / dumplings in a bread maker, but many will disagree with me.
The harvester works like any harvester - loudly. Sometimes very loud

Advice:
The hostess of this LJ has a BOSH MUM 4655 (I have the same one). She bakes a lot, with bread, rolls, pies, and cakes. Ask her how convenient it is to mix yeast dough with this processor.

Clarification 1:
I am not suggesting you buy the same harvester as mine. I propose to study my review, study the range of Bosch MUM combines, read the instructions, read reviews about different models, compare the power and configuration. In the end, draw conclusions and choose one of the 4 or 5 series combines or something else.
In series 4, the combines have a power of 550 and 600 W. 5 series combines 700 and 900 watts.
Daffi
Clarification 2:
Before buying a food processor (any !!!), think 100 times and weigh everything. These devices are absolutely not universal, they do not cover all the needs of the hostess.
I was constantly missing something, so I had to buy:
one.Hand blender Brown 530 (0.5 L chopper and iron leg are very helpful).
2. Mini-harvester Philips 7650 (bowl with universal knives, cool graters).
3. Mixer Bosch 3530, because sometimes you need to whip a little something or whip in a water bath, for example.
Now I am completely happy with my zoo

There is a lot in Bosch MUM combines, but for the same (or even less) money, you can buy devices that will be much easier and more convenient to use. everyday... If you are aiming at frequent kneading of yeast dough, it is better to buy a bread maker, not necessarily expensive, you can also budget, but high quality. I almost never use the meat grinder of the combine. It is successfully replaced by a chopper from a hand blender.

If something is not clear to you, there are questions - ask, do not hesitate. I'll be happy to answer, like the other girls.
LiudmiLka
I agree that no harvester is a universal device. My personal experience: he will never replace a meat grinder, juicer and mixer. These should be separate devices. Well, a juicer and a meat grinder are clear to everyone. As for the mixer: there is such a dough for some types of muffins, such as biscuits, for example, where you can't do without a mixer. And yet, about the bread maker. I love to make yeast and dough for twirls in it. No harvester can replace her here. But cool fresh - only with a combine.
But a good food processor is a thing It is very difficult in the kitchen without it.
Lozja
All this individually. About the juicer - I agree somewhere. But when they say that meat grinders that come with combines are not like a separate meat grinder, I do not understand all the time. Well, what is it that needs to be turned on a meat grinder so that a 600 W combine and the meat grinder that is attached to it cannot cope with this? I don’t understand how my meat grinder in Bosch Moum differs from a stand-alone one. Well, except that on an industrial scale, twist meat all day - the combine will overheat. But we will never eat so much meat.
Daffi
Separate email the meat grinder is still more powerful, but the meat grinder of the combine does an excellent job of twisting meat and everything else. I also do not understand why they say that it is better to buy a meat grinder separately. As for the juicer, I support it - it's better to have a separate one.
Another thing is that minced meat for cutlets is easier and faster to make in a chopper from an immersion blender
Galleon-6
I already have an LG 2001 bread maker, a blender, a mixer, but the mixer is too weak (or I don't know how) for whipping proteins to peaks. In the bread maker, the dough is not enough kneaded; it's time to replace the meat grinder. And on the model that I have long ago laid eyes on, but I am interested in a meat grinder. how it works, and a blender. with a capacity of almost a liter (I have a submersible)
LiudmiLka
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but the mixer is too weak (or I don't know how) for whipping proteins to peaks.
For proteins, I just have a harvester (whisk). It (the combine) itself is more powerful than the mixer, plus, the whisk also rotates around its axis, and the metal "beater" itself also rotates (like a planetary mixer). Such meringues and biscuits are obtained that even never dreamed of before. And all this in a matter of seconds or a couple of minutes (TTT).

As for the meat grinder: I have 1000 power on the combine, but I like it with a power of 2200. The combine does not take veins and films, it has no reverse. I wanted to twist the quince - so it stalled from the first piece. Only fillets and tomatoes (but for tomatoes I just use a universal metal knife - quickly and without dirt).
Daffi
Quote: Goleon-6

I already have an LG 2001 bread maker, a blender, a mixer, but the mixer is too weak (or I don't know how) for whipping proteins to peaks. In the bread maker, the dough is not enough kneaded; it's time to replace the meat grinder. And on the model that I have long ago laid eyes on, but I am interested in a meat grinder. how it works, and a blender. with a capacity of almost a liter (I have a submersible)
My bread maker kneads dough with a maximum of 600 g flour. The harvester seems to be made from 1 kg of flour. But the harvester is kneading with such tension and for so long that I really feel sorry for it. I tried it a couple of times and dropped it.
Maybe your mixer has a low power or you are doing something wrong, so the whites do not whip.
The meat grinder is normal in operation, there are no complaints, but it does not grind bones and veins - consider.
The stationary blender is designed for mixing and whipping liquids. The submersible leg copes with this task.

Tomatoes are easiest to chop in a hand blender chopper. This year I compared how tomatoes are chopped in a combine harvester blender, in a harvester meat grinder, in a Philips 7605 harvester and in a Brown 530 chopper. The chopper won in the quality of the mixture, speed, simplicity and purity of the process. I turn chicken fillet, pork and beef into minced meat with the same 0.5 liter chopper.
LiudmiLka
As for HP: she bakes loaves of up to 900 g for me, so just dough, without baking, I calmly knead for 1 kg of flour.

Now about the unleavened dough from the instructions for my harvester: “You can: - within 60 seconds, knead up to 1.2 kg of dense dough (shortcrust, unleavened or yeast)” ... And this is true. Sometimes even faster.

Regarding a conventional mixer: they need to beat the whites for several minutes, and not seconds, as in a combine, and it is even unnecessary to say anything about the quality.

I can’t say anything about the hand blender, unfortunately, since I’ve never used it. I can only compare with a blender for the combine and with a meat grinder for it. A processor with a 3-liter bowl suits me very much in this regard.
Daffi
LiudmiLka, you forgot to specify which combine you have.
LiudmiLka
MOULINEX FP 7371
My daughter and I are the same, only her design is different, because she bought it a few years after my purchase. I saw that I was happy and made the same choice. Only we use it in different ways. I am more for baking, and it is for salads (graters) and a processor. Well, we both love the blender. We do not use juicers, meat grinders or even a maxi press. It is not bad, but not very good for our "industrial" scale. Well, I generally have a habit of buying all sorts of different devices for slicing, grating and stuff. I don’t like to cut French fries in this harvester - I have another mechanical special piece for this, where square nets (large and small bars) are inserted. I also use mechanical for citrus fruits. But, if you need a lot of juice, then in this combine there is a good one for such purposes.
Galleon-6
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I came to say thank you to everyone, for advice, for tips, for writing here! Now I have

Food processor

BOSCH MUM 52120

so if anyone has any questions, I will be happy to help. True, I only knocked three biscuits on it ... and made the first conclusion

4 eggs are knocked out better than 3

By the way! Everything is very efficient, I ordered it today and received it tomorrow. Manufacturer's warranty.

I would like to know the opinion of your combine. How does a mixer and vegetable cutter work?
Daffi
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I would like to know the opinion of your combine. How does a mixer and vegetable cutter work?
This harvester differs from my model:
a) the design of the motor part;
b) the design of the blender and vegetable cutter;
c) color;
d) slightly more power;
e) instead of a stationary stand for attachments - a fabric cover;
f) the bowl is not plastic, but metal;
g) in mine you can chop and rub into a saucepan, in this one - only in a bowl from the combine.

The attachments for the mixer and vegetable cutter in these combines are completely identical. Moreover, in other BOSCH combines, the disks are also exactly the same (except for the configuration of the bore).
ma-ri-na
Good morning! Please tell me which combine to choose for whipping, shredding and dicing, WITHOUT a meat grinder and juicer?
Daffi
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ma-ri-na It's hard to find at all, here are the Bosch MCM 5529RU ProfiKubixx Blender Philips HR 1659/90 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=22259.0 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=154532.0
PS: I like MUM56340 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=136353.0
You forgot to add that BOSCH MUM 56340 does not dice.
Anna1957
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How far technology has gone. I didn’t know that they released a cutting attachment for MUM 5 series.

And on Amazon there is already a cube included. It is more convenient, since all the fuel tanks rotate in the same container (I don’t know how to call it correctly). And the nozzle has its own.
Oca
Question with the owners of MCM 5540: what attachments do you have?
I didn't find anything sensible on the Internet, I came here to ask This question has already sounded in the topic about the Bosch cube 5529, but on another site it is written that the 5540 kit contains a julienne disc and a second juicer (or what is yellow-round, besides rubbing?) in general, few where it is mentioned.
On the other hand, in 5529 there was a "spiked" grater for potato pancakes, which was not declared. Therefore, I am not surprised at anything.
Anturaz
I have a Bosch, a great harvester! Especially when the children were very young, I cooked mashed potatoes. Fast, convenient!
hrushka
Hello everyone! My elderly Mulinex is bent and I urgently need a new harvester.
For what:

+ graters (dressing for borscht)
+ chopper (pates, dough)
+ what is the name of the mayonnaise attachment? emulsion? this one is also needed (or tell me how you can make mayonnaise without it)
+ blender for cocktails (I never did it, but if it does, we'll try it)))

what is NOT needed
juicer (stationary)
whipping proteins (mixer)
meat grinder (also already there)

additional features are welcome, the budget is unlimited (within reason), but the place is very even

I watched Braun K 700, but it is not clear whether it is possible to make mayonnaise in it? and a small cocktail chopper will work? Or maybe start dreaming about cubes? Please kick in the right direction
hrushka
Do we have Philips HR 7762 owners? The functionality suits me, I wanted to hear real feedback.
Lozja
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I watched Braun K 700, but it is not clear whether it is possible to make mayonnaise in it? and a small cocktail chopper will work? Or maybe start dreaming about cubes? Please kick in the right direction

Mayonnaise was made in it in a large bowl with knives. Itself was shocked, but it turned out perfectly every time. A small chopper, aka a blender, is very suitable for cocktails, it's just a bit smaller in volume than the usual blender attachment in food combines. But for 1-2 servings of a cocktail - quite.
yarli
Quote: Lozja

Mayonnaise was made in it in a large bowl with knives. Itself was shocked, but it turned out perfectly every time. A small chopper, aka a blender, is very suitable for cocktails, it's just a bit smaller in volume than the usual blender attachment in food combines. But for 1-2 servings of a cocktail - quite.

Metal knives ??? And at what speed?
I watched a video in the internet, where a man made a nozzle, which is intended for whipping proteins (not with a whisk). I tried it. It seemed to begin to thicken, and at the end it suddenly exfoliated and turned into a liquid substance. What happened, I don't understand.

juicy I chose for so long, the girls gave so much advice that I didn't even have to ask questions. Brown700 immediately went and bought it, but now I doubt whether to bribe a whisk or not? Inject like a whisk whisk squirrels? Is it worth ordering or not?

Lozja
Quote: yarli

Metal knives ??? And at what speed?

I don't remember which one, but I think that you need to try starting from 7-8. Yes, I did it with metal knives. I never tried it with a whipping attachment, since in theory you don't need to whip mayonnaise, there are knives in the blender's leg too.

Oca
Question, is there a Bosch MCZ 1PS1 drive
Food processor
and there is a suspicion that if you tear off the plastic thing, then this disc will fit for series 4 and 5. Who can show this attachment from the other side?
TheArk
Good day. I want to buy a combine harvester as a present for my mom, but the choice is so huge that my eyes run up. Naturally, I would like to have a better quality and not very expensive.
I know that I need a mixer, a blender, cabbage shredder knives, a meat grinder and I wanted a coffee grinder.

A separate question about the meat grinder, I understand that its presence greatly increases the cost of the combine, is it not more profitable to buy a separate one? but if you just chop the meat with submerged knives, the minced meat will be the same as from a regular meat grinder?
Oca
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A separate question about the meat grinder, I understand that its presence greatly increases the cost of the combine, is it not more profitable to buy a separate one? but if you just chop the meat with submerged knives, the minced meat will be the same as from a regular meat grinder?
I read that the meat grinder (if it is in the combine, and not as a separate device) does not work very well ...I made minced meat a couple of times with a universal knife, it seemed to me that the pieces were uneven: sometimes very small, then large ones slip. But the plus is that the meat does not pass through the auger-juicer, it retains liquid and the cutlets turn out to be more juicy. The knife is really universal, I use it instead of a mixer. And coffee beans can probably be ground in a blender.
I wonder what the owners of other combines will say, I have Boshik first, I can't compare with others ... We have another topic I choose a harvester
Lozja
If there is a lot of space in the kitchen, then a separate meat grinder can be used. But personally, the meat grinder in the combine is quite enough for me, until I noticed something that she could not cope with perfectly.
Meat with knives and meat through a meat grinder are two big differences, as they say. This is someone who likes it. For 4 years of using the processor-combine, I have not got used to minced meat ground into porridge with knives. I didn't like it. Then I bought a second harvester, already with a meat grinder, now I am one hundred percent happy. That is, ideally, it is to have two combines - one of the planetary type with a meat grinder, the second is a processor.
But under yours, TheArk, The requirements are quite suitable for a planetary combine with a mill included. Something like this. For grinding coffee in a blender is not quite that.
TheArk
Thanks for your help.
I didn't quite understand what is meant by the processor. Hand blender? Isn't it better to take it in my case? They are much cheaper and more compact. When a person is used to doing everything with his hands, I think he will be too lazy to get the combine, but the submersible blender may very well be). But here's how to be with minced meat)
TheArk
Thanks for such a detailed review). Now I think what is better to buy, a hefty food processor with a meat grinder, which will rarely be obtained - a small kitchen is a big problem). Or still take a hand blender, less functional, but which can be used every day. What would you advise based on your experience?
TheArk
Here is a selection of several combines:
Bosch MUM 4855
Bosch MUM 4856
Bosch MUM 52131 Styline
Bosch MUM 54240 Styline
Bosch MUM 56340 Styline

Which is better to choose, provided that it will not be used often and a citrus juicer is not needed.
The difference between 4855 and 4856 only in a stainless bowl and a citrus juicer?
And what is the fundamental difference between the 4th series and the 5th? I see that the 5th is prettier, but is it worth overpaying? Is there any difference in usability between them?
Daffi
First, BOSCH MUM is not huge, but very compact. The working part (21x21 cm) is on the table, and the bowl and attachments are in the cabinet. Secondly, I don't know your mother's needs, the dishes she prepares every day, the number of people she feeds every day, her wishes, and so on, so it's hard for me to recommend something.

For you to understand why it is so difficult, I explain "on the fingers". Each hostess has her own "Wishlist" about the automation of processes. Someone definitely needs a stationary mixer, because every day you have to bake something, someone constantly makes cutlets, so you need a meat grinder in a food processor, someone makes salads or summer preparations, so graters / shredders are the main thing. And for some, favorite dishes are Olivier and vinaigrette, and cutting into cubes is needed here, because without it, the combine is not a joy.

Let your mom make a list of such "wishes" in descending order, this time, the second - find out how much space is on the desktop, as well as if there is space in the cabinets where the attachments will be stored. The main thing is that all the devices are conveniently stored and taken out, otherwise the combine or hand blender will be lazy to use.

That's it: Bosch MUM 4855, Bosch MUM 4856, Bosch MUM 52131 Styline, Bosch MUM 54240 Styline, Bosch MUM 56340 Styline are, in fact, one and the same combine. Versions differ only in power, appearance, set of nozzles.
Daffi
Quote: TheArk

Here is a selection of several combines:
Bosch MUM 4855, Bosch MUM 4856, Bosch MUM 52131 Styline, Bosch MUM 54240 Styline, Bosch MUM 56340 Styline

Which is better to choose, provided that it will not be used often and a citrus juicer is not needed.
The difference between 4855 and 4856 only in a stainless bowl and a citrus juicer?
And what is the fundamental difference between the 4th series and the 5th? I see that the 5th is prettier, but is it worth overpaying? Is there any difference in usability between them?
All these models: Bosch MUM 4855, Bosch MUM 4856, Bosch MUM 52131 Styline, Bosch MUM 54240 Styline, Bosch MUM 56340 Styline are, in fact, variations of the same combine. Functionally, they differ little from each other.
Please note that Bosch MUM 56340 Styline and Bosch MUM 54240 Styline have exactly the same power and configuration, but differ in price. The more expensive model has an automatic cable winding, which, in fact, does not play any role, so you can safely delete Bosch MUM 56340 Styline from the list.

Bosch MUM 52131 Styline and Bosch MUM 54240 Styline differ in power (700 W versus 900 W) and the presence of a citrus juicer in the more expensive model.

Bosch MUM 4 series, as you may have noticed, differs in the design of the working part and attachments, as well as in the power - 600 W versus 700 or 900 W for the older series. Functionally, Bosch MUM 4856 and Bosch MUM 54240 Styline differ little, the set of discs for rubbing and shredding in them is the same, and the discs are interchangeable, they are suitable for both 4 series and 5 series.
TheArk
Please tell us more about the differences between these models Bosch MUM 4855, Bosch MUM 4856
TheArk
On reflection, I stopped at 2 models, Bosch MUM 52131 and Bosch MUM 4855, do you think it's worth overpaying 2 thousand for a more beautiful design and a stainless steel bowl?
Daffi
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On reflection, I stopped at 2 models, Bosch MUM 52131 and Bosch MUM 4855, do you think it's worth overpaying 2 thousand for a more beautiful design and a stainless steel bowl?
You didn't seem to hear me. It's not about what YOU want to give, the question is something else: what does your mother need, not you. It may turn out that a Bosch cube is better for her, in which there are the same discs, the same stationary blender, but, in addition to this, there is also cutting into cubes. In order not to make a mistake, first ask your mother what she needs, how often she plans to use it, and then you can give something that will really help her.

The choice of a harvester model is a very delicate matter, because different housewives have very different preferences. It is very easy to miss when choosing, especially if it is a man. Perhaps the Brown 550 Hand Blender is ideal for your mom, which she really uses every day, not every now and then.
Oca
In Bosch MUM 4855, I would have missed a shredder disk, I somehow do not see it in the photo. Daffi correctly asks what is needed: grater + shredder or meat grinder + mixer. It is difficult to understand what is included in the Bosch kit, even at the office. site they have jambs What do you mean by a disc for cutting into strips?

PS On a happy occasion, I bought my mother an MSM 5525 combine in April, she had previously been against technology. The kitchen is in Khrushevka, the table is 60 * 75 cm, the stove, the sink ... that's it, this place is over. She thought to get him out of the closet as needed, like what nafig he needs in the kitchen ... but now he permanently settled on the table! And today my mother called me and said that I thought MSM 5540 bought another used combine for a penny.
TheArk
you need a meat grinder, you need a cabbage cutter, you need a mixer, everything else is secondary
Daffi
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you need a meat grinder, you need a cabbage cutter, you need a mixer, everything else is secondary
Check with your mom what she wants from the mixer. Bosch MUM does an excellent job with whipping whites and cream, as well as butter, he makes biscuit, muffin, shortbread dough, but yeast and dumplings are not for him. They are too thick, so the combine, although it can cope, but with a creak. If necessary, I can look for videos on YouTube, where it is not only audible, but also visible. I would recommend you, despite the higher price, to choose Bosch MUM 5 series with a power of 900 W, and not 700 W, because it will cope better with a thick and viscous dough.

The meat grinder in BOSCH MUM is not bad, BUT ... meat with veins, cartilage and bones will not pull, keep this in mind, otherwise the combine will quickly end. A cabbage slicer, as you called it, is a regular shredder with a slicing disc inserted into it. It is available in any Bosch MUM model.

What else? Most likely, you will have to buy 1-2 disks. The harvester comes with three discs with 5 (five) cutting types, but they are not enough. There is a coarse / fine shredder, a coarse / fine grater, and a nut / cheese grater. The medium grater is very lacking, it should be bought separately.In addition, there is a Korean carrot disc and a French fries disc on sale.
TheArk
Rarely is meat without veins, is everything really so bad there?

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