tyumenochka
Nikonorka, I, too, have been choosing a food processor for a long time and also initially looked after MUM5 (I have already read the topic about this food processor more than once), because I also need cubes and this and that. Then I found a topic about Philips 1669 and really wanted it because of the different sizes of cubes and triangles, bought it and add. I am still very happy with the nozzle, of course its capacity is not very large, but it doesn’t bother me to empty it, if I cut a bowl of salad, I also cut cabbage, beets and vegetables for borscht. I still want the mumik, and then I thought, to process a small amount of products, I have enough devices, but I don't have many. There is no dough mixer at all, there is only a hand mixer and now I generally look towards the new MUMXL (almost MUM8, only slightly modified), because I, too, like you want "good, for many years ... And what would be in it there was less plastic .... ", but of course the price scares him about 30 tons. p without any awnings. While MUM5 series, MUM8 or this new MUMxl, by the way, in Russia, MUMxl is not yet sold, there is time to think.
sazalexter
All existing combines are inside plastic, open any catalog with spare parts and see for yourself.
MUM 4 is 15,000 rubles cheaper than Kenwood KM 010 for many this is a big difference. Yes, and they are different cars, different class,
it is not correct to compare them. MUM 8 and Kenwood KM 010 yes ...
pushkar
I am getting my Kenwood 10 from Germany tomorrow. Posted on 27.01. came today.
How will I get it here.
tyumenochka
sazalexter, but in the new MUMXL there is also plastic inside, can you tell me?
Doxy
Quote: Pilgrim73
This is not the first year I have been the owner of Kenwood 010007, I love my Keshka very much and use it every day. And I wanted to bring the same joy to my mother, but I have no opportunity to give her a car of this level, so I looked towards cheaper analogs. This Saturday I bought a Bosch MUM 4856 EU for my mother. I brought it to my mother and immediately began to study it. Girls, I'm just in shock! How can you ask that kind of money for such quality! There are simply no nozzles, the whisk is even scary to take in hand, you are afraid that it will crumble. The graters are thin, I generally keep quiet about the meat grinder. The connections are so flimsy that it's scary to even turn on this wonderful machine. You know, although my mother was satisfied, but inside I have no joy from such a gift. Even somehow ashamed of such low quality. There was a desire to take it back to the store, but my husband did not allow it. By the way, I ordered it through the online store, so I didn't see it live, otherwise I wouldn't buy it in my life. Of course, I apologize wildly to the owners of this combine, but my opinion is that Kenwood and Bosch cannot even be compared.
Lyudmila, how can you offend a person who is happy with your purchase, I have Mum 4405 and Phillips 7762 on my table, I like both cars! I cook, usually for one meal, a family of 4 people, we don't eat buckets and the harvesters cope with their tasks EXCELLENT! And, excuse me, it seems to me that it is somewhat incorrect to compare units whose price difference is three or four times. Well, if you really wanted to do something nice for your mother, you could, nevertheless, first look at the "gift", so as not to get upset or save some money ...

Here is a link to Japanese a site dedicated to baking, a site-shop selling all kinds of "priblud" for baking with recipes.
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So they all their beauty for 4405 knead and feel great, they don't smell like kenwoods there ... I mean, every unit, and Mum 44 has been produced for 20 years, will find its user ...

Pilgrim73
And, excuse me, it seems to me that it is somewhat incorrect to compare units, the difference in price of which is three to four times

I do not compare them in any way, just Nikonorka wrote that I choose between Kenwood KMC010 and Bosch MUM4 or MUM5, And I want a good one, for many years ...And what would be less plastic in it ... ... So I decided to leave my impression of a technique that does not meet these requirements.
Pilgrim73
Well, if you really wanted to do something nice for your mother, you could, nevertheless, first look at the "gift", so as not to get upset or save some money ...

I confess I did not look, because I used to trust the opinion of our members of the forum. And Keshka, for mom would be a bit big. She lives with her dad and doesn't cook much. I hope that when used carefully, Boshik will not break.
Doxy
Quote: Pilgrim73

I hope that when used carefully, Boshik will not break.
Will not break - my friend 44mum has been working for 12 years!
Nikonorka
pilgrim73, Thanks for your feedback.
I also looked at mum4 and 5 in the store and they seemed a little flimsy to me.
Of course mum8 and even more so kenwood010 is more solid. Therefore, I now choose between these two machines.
Already and mentally ready to part with a tidy sum.

pushkar I'll be waiting for your Kenwood report. I would like to decide already and buy. Tired of doing everything manually.
pushkar
Quote: Nikonorka
pushkar will be waiting for your Kenwood report. I would like to decide already and buy. Tired of doing everything manually.
I'll post it tomorrow.
I advise you to make a decision faster if the purchase will be abroad.
Nikonorka
pushkarin our stores (in Latvia) the prices are even lower than in Germany, so I will buy from us.
Now I can buy Kenwood010 for 350 €.

Why hurry? Are prices going up?
Dr.NO
Quote: Pilgrim73
but my opinion is that Kenwood and Bosch cannot even be compared.
Well, these are sobsno different weight categories, to put it mildly (mum 4 and 010). The matter is different - the financial aspect is very important for many.
Masinen
Nikonorka, he meant for Russia it is necessary to hurry)
And you can not rush)
Dr.NO
Maybe for Latvia too. Have pushkar, saw what picture on the avatar.
pushkar
Nikonorka,
Quote: Nikonorka
Why hurry? Are prices going up?
I apologize. I didn't pay attention. Well, if yours is cheaper. you and the flag in hand.
Give us a link, I think many will buy for 350 e. I took for 445 e.
sazalexter
Internal filling of combines
MUM4
Bosch 177509 Bosch food processor drive

Food processor


Gear 177498 for Bosch Bosch Food Processor

Food processor


KW706628 Planetary Gear Kitchen Machines Kenwood KM260, KM263, KM282, KM285, KM266, KM289 Series

Food processor


Motor bushing for Kenwood KM260 series food processors. Type: KW706525

Food processor


Kenwood KM series with metal gears (silumin? Aluminum alloy)
Gear set (KENWOOD) KW650130

Food processor


Reducer cover Kenwood KMP04, KM010, KM011, KM013, KM020, KM021, KM023, KM030, KM040, KMP03, KM070, KM070, KMP05, KM010. Type: KW710369

Food processor


Other harvesters
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tyumenochka
sazalexter,
Doxy
What is the cost of the parts themselves and their replacement?
sazalexter
DoxyWhich combine? And why? Even plastic ones rarely break ...
Doxy
What causes the knots to break more often - from the fanaticism of the cook (kneading a ton of dough for noodles or rolling bones in a meat grinder) or from the marriage of the technology itself? I'm not talking about the state of the art now, it is clear that each unit has its own "peak" loads. It is the question "who is to blame" that worries me - a person in the kitchen or a person in a factory?))
sazalexter
Doxy, Breaks mainly from fanaticism, foolproof in the form of a knot of breaking does not always work. Less commonly from normal wear and tear. Although there is also a marriage, there is a guarantee for this.
Doxy
I didn't doubt, as always - the human factor)))
Dr.NO
So I said here recently in one topic, the belt drive in Kenwood rules. But the belt must also be found.
pushkar
Gentlemen, I finally got my 010.
Everything went fine. The box didn't even seem to be opened.
What a shock. I have a Bosch 4655, well, just heaven and earth. The set includes a Juicer, a meat grinder, a blender, 4 tools for kneading and whipping, a 1L flask, 2 spoons. doc., their guarantees. I'll post the photos later. all this is 14 kg. So get only with a man.
Pilgrim73
pushkar, congratulations on your purchase! May Kesha serve you for many years!
pushkar
Quote: Pilgrim73
pushkar, congratulations on your purchase! May Kesha serve you for many years!
Thank you so much.
And now the photo.
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Admire. The passport contains the Russian language.
Who needs a Bosch 4655 -price 2000- + forwarding. Excellent or very good condition.
Sorry to be here and not in the flea market.
Nikonorka
pushkar, Congratulations! I hope you will soon tell us in detail about it and share your impressions of using this miracle of technology. And especially the comparison with Bosch Mum.
for 350 it was offered to me from an acquaintance, but it was only with a blender and 4 stirrers, there was no meat grinder or juicer, it was bought separately and it will turn out to be more than 445.
and in stores we also have 440 e, but again only with a blender.

and where did you get it in this configuration?
pushkar
Quote: sazalexter
Get over here with Kenwood
Thank you. Gone.
tyumenochka
Here it is the new MUMXL, judging by the video inside the metal Video in the instructions / other documents tab
Nikonorka
I could not resist yesterday and went and bought Kenwood KMC010
Thank you all for your feedback and comments.

P. s. And as always, according to the law of meanness, when I already bought it, they called this morning and offered KMM020 for 325 €
I even managed to get upset a little, but then I calmed down and am happy - because 020 was brought from Finland and, accordingly, there will be no guarantee, but mine is local and with a guarantee
tyumenochka
Nikonorka, Congratulations, let him serve faithfully !!!
Pilgrim73
Nikonorka, congratulations on your purchase! You made the right choice and let Kesha serve you for many years!
Nikonorka
Thank you
I hope I made the right choice
Viki
Quote: Nikonorka
I hope I made the right choice
Don't even hesitate! Congratulations on your purchase. Let it serve you for a long time - for a long time and only please!
ledi
Maybe this is already in the subject and was discussed, forgive me for being lazy, I don't want to look (I haven't been on the forum for several days and I haven't read a lot, but I want to have time for everything at once), please give a link where in Ukraine you can buy additional graters on Bosch
Muzochka
I bought a kitchen. combine Dex DFP 2012
I can't start, I don't know what I'm doing wrong (
Here is his picture Food processor
The blender is working.
To start working on the right side - this is the mixer (and the meat grinder that is installed on the right instead of it), you need to remove the blender and cover the special motor. cover.
And there it is arranged so that until you close it correctly, the right side will not start.

I've tried to run the right side a million times already, but nothing comes out ((
It seems to me that I cannot screw this cover correctly ((

Does anyone have a device with a similar mechanism? I do not know what to do(
AlenaT
Muzochka, I had a Saturn with a similar mechanism.
You just need to put the lid on the place of the blender and turn to
the specified risks. Everything was simple for me, no extra efforts
there were no clicks either. Just turn the cover all the way.
Then the locking sill was erased there, and my husband had to build it up
using a tin strip.
It still works !!!
mur_myau
Food processor Redmond RFP-3904 cutting into cubes. Happy as an elephant.

Food processor
And most importantly, all shredding attachments are hidden inside the base.

Power - 700 W
Bowl capacity - 3.5 L
Voltage - 220-240 V, 50 Hz
Working speed - 14,200/17,000 rpm
Number of switched speeds - 2 + pulse mode

Included

Removable bushing - yes
S-shaped chopper knife - yes
Disc for attaching the grater / shredder - yes
Coarse grater - yes
Fine grater - yes
Large shredder - yes
Fine shredder - yes
French fries shredder - yes
Dicing attachment - yes
Combine bowl with lid - yes
Pusher with a measuring cup - yes

Features:

Additional features - container for storage of attachments, protection of the engine from overheating, blocking if improperly assembled

Muzochka
AlenaT, thanks for the answer.

Already succeeded, it was precisely in the lid, which did not want to be screwed, but gave in.
Wolverine
Quote: Pilgrim73

I choose between Kenwood KMC010 and Bosch MUM4 or MUM5

Of course, I apologize wildly to the owners of this combine, but my opinion is that Kenwood and Bosch cannot even be compared.
Thank you for writing about comparing the two models .... You have a real comparison of the two models ...
mur_myau
Discover the secret.
In my harvester, the set of attachments includes two knives, one plastic, the other steel. They differ only in the material from which they are made.
What is the purpose of a plastic knife?
Babushka
Elena, a plastic knife - for making dough.
mur_myau
Babushka,
Can you do something like pie crust on this knife?
Daffi
mur_myauPie crust chopped dough is made with metal knives. Yeast dough is usually kneaded with a plastic knife.Link to recipe and dough preparation technology (found in Google) 🔗
Babushka
Elena, Daffi answered correctly. The plastic knife for yeast and shortcrust pastry is good.
mur_myau
Daffi,
Thank you!
It turns out that the metal knives in the combine completely replace the chopper for shortcrust pastry (manual)?

Babushka,
Clear.
Daffi
mur_myau, there is chopped dough and shortcrust pastry. These are two different types of dough and two different cooking technologies, as you can see (there were links to Chadeyki's LJ here). The result is also not the same.
With metal knives in the food processor, you can make chopped dough. It is also made using ordinary hand knives or a special device, for example, such as in the photo.
Food processor
Marina 9
puchkar,

Hello, firstly, accept my congratulations on purchasing Kesha, let it serve you for a long time and regularly, and secondly, I also decided to order Kesha 010, and if you don’t mind, write where you ordered and how. Thank you in advance
Marina 9
Hello everyone, please answer me someone who knows how to place an order and where for household appliances from Germany

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