Daffi
Quote: Sofim

and I somehow got used to slightly break the poppy on a coffee grinder, and then boil it with milk and sugar
And I generally grind dry poppy with a blender
*** yana ***
My friend still spits at the word Moulinex, because she bought their combine, used it and returned it back
I have a Moulinex combine for 20 years already ..... so I disagree ...
Daffi
Quote: *** yana ***

I have a Moulinex combine for 20 years already ..... so I disagree ...
Because it is good that it was made long ago. Moulinex was bought by the Chinese for a long time and they started having quality problems.
*** yana ***
Moulinex was bought by the Chinese for a long time and they started having quality problems.
yes, they probably bought everything, judging by the quality of the equipment ... Bosch cubix lived with me for a week, Phillips with my mother for a year and a half ... I will generally keep quiet about buckets for bread makers ...
Rina
love very much this little story... just on the topic of why things began to serve much less ... keep in mind that the story was written almost half a century ago.

LiudmiLka
Rino, unfortunately, that's the way it is
About the Moulinex combine. I'm very happy with mine. He is 3 years old or a little more. And she asked a friend from the master. He said that from time to time there are only drive rods of breakdowns (people do not always use them correctly). But they cost a penny (details come from France). My harvester says it's made in France.
The only thing that I first tried the auger meat grinder on quince, from which I concluded that it would not take tough meat. I still have to try.
Sofim
Quote: Daffi

And I generally grind dry poppy with a blender
I'm dry too, but in a coffee grinder. Blender and chopper haven't even tried. I immediately decided that a coffee grinder would be more suitable for these purposes

About fragile things.
I don’t know if it’s true: I heard that in Germany, if I don’t buy something new from technology for a long time, then I have to pay special. tax .. like the economy to support .. maybe fiction, of course.
Sofim
Luysia,
if you need to mix minced meat or cottage cheese for filling, etc., then how do you do such operations? In Bosh MUM, this is a dough hook, as I understand it. And in Phillips? If it's just a knife, it seems to me that it will scatter everything along the walls and rotate in the void .. or what?
Daffi
Quote: Sofim

I'm dry too, but in a coffee grinder. Blender and chopper haven't even tried. I immediately decided that a coffee grinder would be more suitable for these purposes
I don't have a coffee grinder, so the blender
By the way, I opened the instructions for my combine, it says that you can grind 50-100 g of solid products. And the picture for the instructions shows how something is poured into the blender directly into the hole on the lid

Minced meat is kneaded not only with a dough hook, but also with a dough whisk. And about cottage cheese in MUMs, I will also listen. You can rub the cottage cheese through a sieve by hand to make it smoother, I myself don't know how to do this in MUM. You can scroll in a meat grinder, you can whisk in a blender (but you need to add something liquid), you can use a whisk for the dough in a bowl, but then you need to add at least an egg or butter, or sour cream.
Luysia
Quote: Sofim

Luysia,
if you need to mix minced meat or cottage cheese for filling, etc., then how do you do such operations? In Bosh MUM, this is a dough hook, as I understand it. And in Phillips? If it's just a knife, it seems to me that it will scatter everything along the walls and rotate in the void .. or what?

Beat the cottage cheese with eggs, sugar, etc. with a knife. Meat filling for pancakes too.
Daffi
Quote: Luysia

Beat the cottage cheese with eggs, sugar, etc. with a knife. Meat filling for pancakes too.
And if without sugar and eggs, the knife will cope?
Luysia
Quote: Daffi

And if without sugar and eggs, the knife will cope?

This is a joke?
If a knife grinds crackers and nuts, then it is clear that it will cope with cottage cheese.

Quote: Luysia


3. The knife grinds everything well. Grinding from nuts, breadcrumbs to minced meat and delicate pates. If you need to grind something not to the emulsion, but so that there are pieces, then it is also convenient, since there is a pulsating mode.

Sofim, asked about curd filling and I answered her.
Daffi
Quote: Luysia

This is a joke?
If a knife grinds crackers and nuts, then it is clear that it will cope with cottage cheese.
The blender from the combine also crushes crackers and nuts, but cannot cope with cottage cheese. A hole is formed inside the mass of cottage cheese, in which knives are spinning uselessly In a bowl with knives that will not work?
Luysia
Daffi, if you put 100 g of cottage cheese in a bowl, then of course, it will be scattered all over the walls of the bowl.

And if cottage cheese, for example, for a casserole, then everything is whipped well. If a certain void forms near the center, then I once go through with a silicone spatula and beat it to the end.
taty
Quote: Sofim

Luysia,
if you need to mix minced meat or cottage cheese for filling, etc., then how do you do such operations? In Bosh MUM it is dough hook, as I understand it.

Hook - for dough, for kneading cottage cheese, etc. there is a whisk,
another whisk for meringues and biscuits.
artisan
Lucky ones, share. Is there such a combine that would quickly whip up a biscuit, with a bowl with a juicer, a coffee grinder and everything else I have, I don't need anything else
sazalexter
I want to buy a MUM5 harvester ..... discourage eating a good meat grinder, a good juicer, in fact, you only need graters, shredders, and a blender. As you know there is a dough mixer (HP Panasonic)
Daffi
Quote: sazalexter

I want to buy a MUM5 harvester ..... discourage eating a good meat grinder, a good juicer, in fact, you only need graters, shredders, and a blender. As you know there is a dough mixer (HP Panasonic)
I can dissuade, if necessary. MUM4 has been working for me for 7 years, in fact it is the same as MUM 5, only a different design and less power. The stationary mixer, blender, graters and shredders are good, the meat grinder is normal.
But there are nuances - the set included three discs with five types of rubbing / shredding. As a result, for 7 years I have mainly used only a shredder disc, very rarely use a coarse grater, because it is very coarse, fine grater and I have never used a cheese / chocolate grating disc. I bought two more discs - for julienne slicing and for French fries. I use julienne as a medium grater, grate beets and carrots, use a disc for fries to stew cauliflower into the filling for pies.
You need to understand that the harvester will never rub as beautifully as a hand grater or a Berner. The harvester does not chop cabbage as smoothly and beautifully as a hand chopper, Berner or a knife. It doesn't matter to me, but it might matter to you. It is more important for me that a huge head of cabbage or 2 kilos of carrots is rubbed / chopped by the combine in 2 minutes and I don't need to do it manually. In the harvesting season, the combine is very helpful, I don’t know how I would have managed without it.
But for everyday use, I would not recommend it, but this is just my opinion, I do not impose it
If you want a device for daily rubbing / shredding + blender, then look in the direction of submersible blenders with bowls, graters and shredders or mini-combines, you will use this every day or every other day, checked on yourself
I have a Bosch MUM 4655, but I do not use it very often, but I use the Brown submersible blender (especially the chopper) several times every day, I use the Philips mini-harvester with a grater and shredder almost every day.
taty
I have the same Bosch 4655 for three years, mostly only biscuits and more biscuits.
The dough is a bread maker and by hand, a Berner grater - you could not imagine better, several times you chopped a lot of cabbage in the combine, so you will be tortured to wash everything perfectly, vegetables stick, clog. The speed of this mum is small, so I'm more likely to chop a bucket of cabbage with Berner, or a couple of kg of carrots on a Korean grater.
But a Bosch blender with a metal foot + a chopper I use very often
kosmar
I now have 2 food processors: Philips HR7774 \ 90 and Bosch MCM5529.
I can compare.my favorite is Phillips, there are more speeds, and it is assembled and disassembled faster, it kneads the dough better, etc.

bosch bought only because of the dicing, and then it turned out that it has a press for soft fruits and vegetables (but did not use it yet). and I want to buy a grater for Bosch (for fries and julienne).
their price is the same, the equipment is approximately similar. the power is more from the phillips. citrus press is better at bosch. blender is better at Phillips. "whippers" are better at Phillips. both have no meat grinder (but I have a separate one, so I did not look for it with a meat grinder). knives (for onions, meat, etc.) worked the same way (I don't see the difference).
graters: less "waste" from Bosch. Phillips does not have a pot for potato pancakes, but its disc-grater is double-sided (and I used the second side (small) for deruglv, BUT, the "pieces-leftovers" fell into the "dough".) I bought a separate grater for potato pancakes for Bosch, I liked it.
the cup itself is better at the Phillips (because it does not have a "hole" in the center).
In general, I often use Phillips and do not remove it, but with Bosch I am more "on you".

I can also tell you about the Phillips HR7605 (I gave my mom, because I often use them with her) and the Phillips HR7625 (I had them before these combines until my cat ruined the top cover (dried near the boiler (my house) and on a hot surface) dropped from a height, the lid melted). in general, my past, albeit small, coped perfectly.I did not knead the dough, but chop the onion, grate the potatoes, carrots, excellent.Mom differs in that there is a blender and the volume is larger. I don’t knead on them, I won’t say.

I was convinced of the reliability of Phillips after making a strawberry cocktail in the summer, I screwed up the glass of the blender badly, and poured the "motor" into the liquid. I thought that the end had come, but no, for three days it was dry (dripping from it), and then it worked and works as if nothing had happened.

Lozja
Quote: Daffi

I use the Philips mini-harvester with a grater and shredder almost every day.

That is, you still bought that compact harvester? Share your impressions. What interests me the most is how the small power handles all sorts of products?
I had Brown. And for 4 years he was fine with me, everything on it - chop, grate, beat, mix, all types of batter, dumplings in 1 minute, squeeze juice, chop one or two onions or garlic (small bowl). Everything is fine! But then I got carried away with yeast baking, including bread, and everyone arrived. I bought myself a hand mixer, but it takes the same time - to sit with a mixer to knead, and I mix something almost every day, then rolls, then loaves, then bread, and so on in a circle. In general, I got tired of sitting with a mixer, I wanted the combine to do it instead of me. In my Brown, this, of course, can be done if desired, but, as it seems to me, it is not quite created for yeast dough. Then it is very troublesome to collect this dough in a bowl, given that a pin sticks out in the middle. In all other respects, these bowls are very easy and simple to wash, sometimes even by simple rinsing (if you haven't twisted anything greasy), but after the yeast dough - it's easy! In general, thinking long and painfully, I took the Bosch MUM 4756. Now he kneads the dough, plus the meat grinder pleased me (after all, minced meat in the processor and minced meat in a meat grinder are two different things). Of course, it's unusual that it kneads for a long time (compared to my hand mixer), whips the proteins for a long time (again, with a mixer, I beat the proteins to stable peaks in 5-7 minutes). But for the fact that he does it without my participation, and during this time I can redo a bunch of other things, I am ready to forgive him for his slowness.
Well, now there is such a problem - I have no room for two combines. Having used a new one for several days, having used it from all sides, I already for this week, which has passed since the purchase, acutely felt the lack of my Brown. So, it turned out that Brown's big plus is:
1. Pancake dough in a large bowl. In Boch, it does not break all the flour with whisks properly, there is not enough speed, as I understand it. There is not enough space in the blender, this is time, and secondly, all the same, the processor bowl rules in this regard, in the blender the knives are far from below, and flour remains on the walls at the top.There is nothing left in Brown, the pancake dough is kneaded with knives for 1 minute until the state of "not a single slightest lump".
2. Dumplings dough. Which even surprised. Either the capacities are not enough, or the difference is precisely in the different kneading techniques, but in the processor bowl it is much easier to knead the tight dumplings dough, and the dough itself kneads much better, and what is 10 times faster - I’m generally silent. This does not work with a Bosch hook. In the bowl of the processor (not with knives, but with a plastic dough attachment), it knocks against the walls of the bowl in a circle and literally in 50-60 seconds I get out perfectly kneaded tight dough. With a hook, I didn't succeed.
3. I am catastrophically lacking a small Brown bowl, into which I threw something (a handful of nuts, an onion, a handful of berries on yoghurts, whatever, even in the smallest quantities), one press - zip - and everything is crushed. He took it out of the bowl, took out the knife, rinsed the bowl, knife, lid - put it to dry. Dried up - put it back on the combine. Here, in Boch, it happens more stressful, you first need to get the blender out of the cabinet (the blender is glass, and therefore not easy), attach it to the combine, do the job, remove, unload the products, disassemble, wash all the details, dry, collect back, hide in a locker. In general, I miss the small Brown bowl, which always stands in place, and which consists of the bowl itself, a knife and a lid, and a mustache. There is no need to twist, untwist, reach, hide anything.

Well, now, now I think to myself what to do. Maybe sell my beloved Brown, and buy myself such a compact Phillips instead? Find a place for him in the locker and always have such a compact processor at hand?
Daffihow is he to you? By the way, the fact that there is only one speed in it somehow does not bother me at all, because in my Brown there are 14 speeds, it seems, but in 99 cases out of 100 I used only the average - 6th speed. She is the most optimal. In very rare cases, other speeds were needed.
Daffi
Well, I have already unsubscribed in the topic of blenders about the impressions of the mini-Philips, you can read there. Here somewhere from here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...c=138.0

For kneading yeast and dumplings dough, there is nothing better than a bread machine, it seems to me. In Bosch 4655 I do not knead yeast, I feel sorry for the combine, it walks with a shake. Your Brown is very, very good, it has a chopper, graters, a bowl of knives and a 600W power.
Mini-Philips is not your Brown replacement, I think. In a 1.5 liter bowl, a couple of cloves of garlic, when chopped, are simply scattered over the bowl (I tried). Chicken fillet for minced meat does great, I'm happy, but you need to remove the veins. Rubs and shreds well, but there are not rubbed residues. I haven’t tried the potato pancake grater yet, but I’ll accomplish my goal. The pancake dough does well. Made oatmeal cookie dough, great too.
You read in blenders, if you have any questions, ask, I will answer with pleasure.

I don't understand why everyone writes that the whites in Boch take a long time to whip. I beat the egg whites to steady peaks at 4 speeds, add a little sugar and it whips. Hard peaks are provided in a couple of minutes.
So I filmed how the whisk rotates at different speeds
Lozja
Quote: Daffi


I don't understand why everyone writes that the whites in Boch take a long time to whip. I beat the egg whites until they reach steady peaks at 4 speeds, add a little sugar, and it whips. Hard peaks are provided in a couple of minutes.
So I filmed how the whisk rotates at different speeds

That's right, I have the same speeds in 4756 Muma. You just haven't seen the speed of my hand mixer, I'm comparing this to it. Maybe, of course, it seems to me that it takes a long time, because at this time I am doing other things. And you hold the mixer in your hand and it seems that it is fast, because you see the whole process. In general, I say, because he does it without me - I forgive everything.

Regarding the kneading of yeast dough in Boch - well, the upper part, into which the hook is attached, moves a little, but, as it seems to me, this is more from low speeds than from strained work. But the harvester itself is stable and does not move much.Maybe my model is a bit stronger than yours, in the sense of being more stable? But I don’t have a bread machine, and I don’t want to, in principle.
Thanks for the Phillips answer. I also thought to myself that he still won't replace my Brown, because it has one big bowl and a mustache. So, I'll throw out the TV that few people watch from the kitchen, and put my beloved Brown next to Bosch. This will be the kit! For all occasions.

By the way, about the grades. These leftovers remain in Brown. Because the distance from the lid to the grater is about a centimeter, no less. In this regard, Bosch is more thoughtful, there is practically no gap, the grater goes close to the top cover, there is only room for free movement of the grater. And no waste, that's super. Although the grater needs to be assembled and disassembled (there are a bit more details than in Brown, but if you take into account that you can substitute a plate and rub right into it without dirtying the bowl, it turns out that washing the dishes is the same thing. But when you rub a lot of carrots, for example, if you ferment cabbage or put it in the freezer, you don't need to periodically stop and empty the bowl, as in Brown and similar combines. ”Well, plus there is no waste, as I said.

I wanted to get confused with additional attachments for Bosch. But if I'm going to put back Brown, then that disappears. Since of all that is available on the Internet stores, this is a fries grater, a grater for potato pancakes - I also have these in Brown. An auger juicer is too expensive for 1-2 times a year. A julienne grater - perhaps I would have bought it, it must be a useful thing, because the trouble of many combines, including my Brown, is too large a grater and too small, this julienne must be something in between. But what I would definitely buy for her Bosch is a mill, but where can you find it?
Daffi
I have a julienne grater, be jealous.For Bosch, you can buy a medium grater (it's a medium shredder), there is also a julienne grater there. I saw millers in some online stores, but that was more than a year ago. Here is the code of the mill with stone millstones MUZ 4 GM 2
Lozja
Quote: Daffi

I have a julienne grater, be jealous.For Bosch, you can buy a medium grater (it's a medium shredder), there is also a julienne grater there. I saw millers in some online stores, but that was more than a year ago.

I envy! Thank you for pointing out the medium grater, because you look at the photo and figs you will understand what kind of grater it is - medium or small. And they, poop, do not specify, they write - for potato pancakes. And by the way, there aren't many of these grades in stock, that's what I meant, I've already gone through all the Internet shops, where there is - the price is highly inflated, where the prices are normal - there is no availability. And there are no millers anywhere. Only by the 8th Mumm there is, it costs like half of my combine.
Daffi
I bought my mini-Philips precisely because it has a medium grater, a medium shredder and a grater for potato pancakes (well, or squash pancakes). If I bought these graters for Bosch, and even a multi-mixer (a bowl with knives) in addition, it would be more expensive than one mini-Philips. And so I have a bowl of knives, and a grater-shredder and an emulsifier disc. For 464 UAH I bought a superfood harvester
Daffi
Found an amateur video on YouTube showing the work of Mini-Philips 7605

kosmar
I used to have this mini Phillips 7605, I was completely satisfied with it, and would continue to use it if my cat had not broken it.
he practically rubs without "residues", and large pieces do not get to the grated, carrots and so on immediately paints the white part (where the disks are inserted), but for me it was not a problem, he took up little space (we only lived with my husband then, a child was not, and this combine was enough for us in volume).
Daffi
Quote: kosmar

I used to have this mini Phillips 7605, I was completely satisfied with it, and would continue to use it if my cat had not broken it.
he practically rubs without "residues", and large pieces do not get to the grated, carrots and so on immediately paints the white part (where the disks are inserted), but for me it was not a problem, he took up little space (we only lived with my husband then, a child was not, and this combine was enough for us in volume).
I wipe the painted part with a cotton swab dipped in vegetable oil, then wash it again - no traces of carrots remain.
As for the rubbing residues, they are quite large. I have something to compare with. In Boch 4655, we can say that there are no leftovers, but his graters do not make such cool pieces
I'm happy that I bought it, because now I can make a salad of carrots with nuts and garlic at any time, then season with sour cream, mmm
Lozja
Regarding staining with carrots and beets. You know, I already have Brown for 4 years and only literally not so long ago I accidentally found out that this color can be easily erased with the hard side of the washcloth, if you wash it right away. Well, here is such a washcloth for example -

Food processor

With this green side, everything is perfectly rubbed off if you rub it harder. And so, before, all the same, over time, the plastic darkened, I periodically arranged to clean all the attachments with soda and detergent.
Well, I will also take note of vegetable oil.
artisan
I have a PHILIPS HR-7770 food processor (I gave it to my parents .. he stayed with them and successfully moved to me) So I looked, it is very similar to 7605. Therefore, I don’t understand how he can rub without a trace. Mine, and it pisses me off a little, leaves palpable plates of potatoes, carrots, which often fall into the cracks on the sides. Of course, this is nonsense, compared to the fact that you would have to rub everything with your hands, but it is not pleasant to choose these pieces. Maybe this is a disease of all combines, maybe there is even more, I don't know
kosmar
Quote: Daffi

I wipe the painted part with a cotton swab dipped in vegetable oil, then wash it again - no traces of carrots remain.
As for the rubbing residues, they are quite large. I have something to compare with. In Boch 4655, we can say that there are no leftovers, but his graters do not make such cool pieces
I'm happy that I bought it, because now I can make a salad of carrots with nuts and garlic at any time, then season with sour cream, mmm
no, I don’t argue about the "leftovers", but for such a combine, which is compact, like just a vegetable cutter-grater, I consider it normal.
I also have something to compare with, because now I have both Phillips HR7774 \ 90 and Bosch MCM5529 (cubes) - they have less left.
Daffi
Quote: Master

I have a PHILIPS HR-7770 food processor (I gave it to my parents .. he stayed with them and successfully moved to me) So I looked, it is very similar to 7605. Therefore, I don’t understand how he can rub without a trace. Mine, and it pisses me off a little, leaves palpable plates of potatoes, carrots, which often fall into the cracks on the sides. Of course, this is nonsense, compared to the fact that you would have to rub everything with your hands, but it is not pleasant to choose these pieces. Maybe this is a disease of all combines, maybe there is even more, I don't know
7605 rubs carrots with large residues, because there is a gap of at least 5 mm between the disc and the pusher. As a result, when rubbing, the carrots tilt and a plate of carrots 5 mm thick and long remains. This is very clearly seen on the video. But at the same time, the non-rubbed remains do not fall into the rubbed mass.
Your harvester is not at all like that, yours is more powerful and larger in size. And Philips 7605 is small, bowl 1.5 l, power 350 W, three inserts for shredding-rubbing, a utility knife and an emulsifier disc. That's all the equipment. But he knows a lot and can be quickly washed and takes up little space.

kosmar, I somewhere saw a video with a similar Bosch, so there are even less remnants in it than in my Bosch 4655, we can say that your Bosch does not have them at all.
kosmar
Quote: Daffi

7605 rubs carrots with large residues, because there is a gap of at least 5 mm between the disc and the pusher. As a result, when rubbing, the carrots tilt and a plate of carrots 5 mm thick and long remains. This is very clearly seen on the video. But at the same time, the non-rubbed remains do not fall into the rubbed mass.
Your harvester is not at all like that, yours is more powerful and larger in size. And Philips 7605 is small, bowl 1.5 l, power 350 W, three inserts for shredding-rubbing, a utility knife and an emulsifier disc. That's all the equipment. But he knows a lot and can be quickly washed and takes up little space.

kosmar, I somewhere saw a video with a similar Bosch, so there are even less remnants in it than in my Bosch 4655, we can say that your Bosch does not have them at all.
about phillips - true, because there really is a gap, but there was no carrot left, because I am not throwing it through a large "hole". and potato pancakes, on this grater (in general, for some reason, it is not indicated in the kit, but this grater turns over, and it turns out like on pancakes, and so there the "leftovers" really need to be removed from the dough (that's why I don't use it on this combine), mini phillips do not have this - all the leftovers remain on top of the grater.
on the other hand, sing 7774 \ 90 is ideal for dough, and there is a nozzle where the thickness of the slices is regulated (the twist makes more or less, like in a slicer). in general, everything has its own nuances.
but again I say, my little phillips then completely suited me for grate-chop (onions, mushrooms, etc.).
Daffi
Have you chopped onions and mushrooms with a shredder? Did you slice the mushrooms at random?
kosmar
Quote: Daffi

Have you chopped onions and mushrooms with a shredder? Did you slice the mushrooms at random?
I did not try it with a shredder, I cut it with a knife, how the minced meat turned out
Daffi
Quote: kosmar

I did not try it with a shredder, I cut it with a knife, how the minced meat turned out
Have you chopped raw or fried mushrooms?
kosmar
Quote: Daffi

Have you chopped raw or fried mushrooms?
boiled. the onions were very fine, but in the minced meat it is normal.
I have never tried the dough in it, I think it would not have worked.
Daffi
Quote: kosmar

boiled. the onions were very fine, but in minced meat this is normal.
I have never tried the dough in it, I think it would not have worked.
It depends on what kind of dough. I made pancake dough and oatmeal dough, it worked great. Chopped and gingerbread dough in 7605 can also be made.
kosmar
Quote: Daffi

It depends on what kind of dough. I made pancake dough and oatmeal dough, it worked great. Chopped and gingerbread dough in 7605 can also be made.
so I, yes, oh mini 7605, well, yes, batter, like pancakes-pancakes, it turns out, just for that period I was kneading with a submersible blender.
and in Phillips 7774 \ 90 I made chopped, for dumplings, pizza and so on, just super, like in HB (I have a Panas 257) kneads with a bun.
in HB, I now only make yeast (and pizza, if yeast dough).
on bosha cubes I have not tried, I will not say.
Sandiya
Please help with advice
In my Kenwood combine, the device into which the whisk is inserted is broken. There the teeth are plastic and broke off a little, now the corollas fall out. I don't remember the exact model, I'm not at home now. But all the same, I think that they should be the same in different models, or interchangeable. Where can I quickly buy a spare part?
Sofim
I want to tell you about my Philips HR7766 combine. Once upon a time I consulted here for a long time what to choose, but there was not enough time to unsubscribe.
Let me remind you that I was looking for a harvester with a meat grinder in the first place and a lot of graters and shredders.
Pros first:
- excellent grinder, works like a beast,
- very good blender - fruit drinks, cocktails, pancake dough, everything is ok,
- the graters / shredders are good, but I bought a large and very large beetroot (double-sided), I mainly use it and a grater for potato pancakes. Remains remain, but not critical, the previous one is erased by the next one, they do not fall into the bowl, remain on top of the disc.
- good shredding disc - cutting thickness is adjustable from 1 to 7 mm. For example, shredded cabbage is thinner for salting, and thicker for stewing.
is a very good utility knife. All the ingredients are immediately in the bowl and in a couple of seconds you can fry liver or chicken cutlets. I haven’t tried meat like that.
- cake in a juicer falls into a separate volumetric container.
- it takes up a little space on the desktop (it is stationary for me), the cord is wound at the back and it is not long (for me a plus, since the rezet is next to it)

What I liked average:
- I tried a whisk for proteins only once on a protein that was not the first freshness - it seemed long and noisy. I eat 450 W faster with a Bosch mixer, but I can’t understand at once, I haven’t whipped proteins for a long time.
- a knife for dough - I tried it for a cake, dough for pizza and yeast pancakes. I don't piss anymore, it's easier for me to throw it into hp and forget before the signal.

Minuses:
- the lid of the juicer rubbed against the grater 1-2 times. The service center was replaced without question.After that I made juice only once, everything worked well.
- a juicer of large sizes in a very small sink is not convenient for us, but if you want to eject the cake, then it's better this way.

In general, I am sooooo happy with the combine, I use it often and love it dearly
Luysia
Sofim, your comments about the combine practically coincided with mine (I have PHILIPS HR-7768). Let the combine last a long time.

I would like to know how, where and how much they ordered additional graters. I've been dreaming about them for a long time, but I still can't get myself together. A large beetle is not enough ...
Sofim
Luysia
I bought the disc I needed at a service center. It is not from my combine, but it seems from 7768, as an additional one. But it is completely the same as mine, only on one side there is a coarse beet grater (as on hand graters, the most used), on the other, a very large beet grater. In the nearest service center it was available. The price is not humane, like UAH 240, but this one is from. center of the expensive. I immediately realized that without this grater life was not sweet to me and I bought
Luysia
Sofim, if possible please center coordinates and maybe disc number or name. Otherwise, I don't live in Kiev, I will order my son, but he needs to tell everything more precisely.
Sofim
Service center:
Address: Kiev, Obolonsky district
st. Marshal Tymoshenko, 9
(m. Minskaya)
Phone: (phones from internet, as I only remember the street) +38 044 4648426, +38 044 5019133, +38 044 4648427, + 38 044 4182996

There is a service center of different brands. Their sign seems to be "Panasonic service center".
On the phone, you need to talk to the manager for parts or accessories. True, he did not understand what a "beet grater" was, for him it was a "cheese grater", but in general they found a common language. I won't say the number of the grater, I spoke to him in words, but I won't find the check.
Next week, most likely I will pass by there, I can go in to find out.
8Rosa8
Hello! I recently bought a Clatronik3067 food processor from an online store, choosing between Kenwood (too expensive) and Bosch, I only needed to knead the dough (biscuit, protein cream, etc.), and not a bunch of scrap metal (shredder knives, etc.) , have already dropped their hands, but accidentally found Klatronic. Well, it was very scary to take it, because an unknown company, but after consulting with my mother decided to take it, ordered it, the manager called back in 30 minutes (it was Monday), and on Wednesday I already received it.
Prospects - a bowl of 5 li., Power 1000, 6 speeds + pulse mode. There is a meat grinder, but I have not tried it yet, the proteins are whipped.
Disadvantages - noisy, but you can get used to it.
While happy.
Lozja
And I also had to buy Boshik just for kneading, because for everything else I had a wonderful Brown. So I really understand 8Rosa8.
Lozja
Quote: juicy

I cannot yet understand exactly what I need ... I hope you will help with the choice ..... Harvester, blender, mixer? and what model to take ... while I think that probably you need to take a harvester .... but which one? HELP MI

The main functions that you need, write. What exactly should your future harvester do most often?
juicy
Quote: Lozja

The main functions that you need, write. What exactly should your future harvester do most often?
I want it to have both a mixer and a blender ... the main thing is that I can beat the protein, knead the dough for curd casseroles, grind! I want to cook mayonnaise! The most important thing is that it takes up a minimum of space !!!
And so, I don't know what else they can do!

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