Food processor

And Kenwood has no spare parts either.

In the sense of Severodvinsk?

In the sense of Severodvinsk?

No, I mean, generally in workshops.

With such a volume, I would take a closer look at the Bosch MUM8XX, although 1kg of MUM5X calmly kneads me

The point is not only in the volume of products, but also in the power (4655-500W), the attachment of the bowl, the rotation of the hook, the shape of the hook.
The 4655 has no mount for such purposes. The bowl is shaking. You have to hold it with your hands.
Based on this, a power of 1000 watts is needed, the hook is preferably not just a bent rod, planetary rotation. The attachment of the bowl to the combine is dead.
Which ones can be added to this list. MUM 6-8 is clear. Kenwood 10-20. There are the latest models Boman, ProfiCook, Klatronic. By the way, some write China on Klatronic, and some Germany. But they are on Ebay Germany. How are they for quality.

No, I mean, generally in workshops.

In Moscow and I think in St. Petersburg there are no special problems. The question of price, here ebay of course rules.

Clathronic and Bomann are not a manufacturer, they are TM. It is the harvesters that seem to be ordered in Hong Kong. In Germany, only registration.

[Dr.NO]

Dr.NO,
I decided on the combines.
The choice remained
Kenwood 56-57 Rhea
Bosch MUM86R1-8400
The question is what to choose from this.
I have a Bosch 4655 whether the attachments fit from it to new models.
Who knows that and that model, I look forward to your advice. I lean towards Kenwood myself.
The new Bosches seem to have solved the issue with a bowl, the mount is buzzing, but the lever probably staggers during operation.

Hello everyone! Today I tried to grind veal-beef on Bosch 4855 and, alas, the meat grinder failed, the meat was screwed up and the pusher did not help. : girl_mad: I had to get my Brown, she ground everything. Next time I'll try to cut it into smaller pieces. And how are you?

The question is what to choose from this.

Well, if you are used to Bosch already, then the choice is obvious. In this choice, probably Bosch. If the choice was between Kenwood 010,020 and Boche, then Kenwood.

I have a Bosch 4655 whether the attachments fit from it to new models.

I think not all. Bosch positions accessories for each series. This is due to the different power and, accordingly, with different designs of torque transmission units and different materials.

I lean towards Kenwood myself.

There is nowhere to feel both?

the meat grinder failed, the meat was screwed up and the pusher did not help

It would be necessary to sharpen. So what, what's new. Place the knife against the net, look at the gap for clearance.

Today I tried to grind veal-beef on Bosch 4855 and, alas, the meat grinder failed, the meat was screwed up and the pusher did not help.

I have a Bosch MUM 54240, yesterday I made minced meat, the beef was not very much, there were a lot of films and thick ones, but Boshik coped with it, nothing was wound, everything turned out (4 kg came out). Previously, in a meat grinder (I have Mulinex), I had to freeze the meat, because you can't turn it otherwise. I cut the meat into long pieces: in width so that they fit into the neck of the meat grinder, and 7-10 cm long, and it's great !!!

Anna. and on the contrary, the meat grinder coped with it, although the knives have never been sharpened for 4 years. I also cut with long strips (I always did this for a meat grinder), but alas ... I think the power of the combine is too small for a meat grinder, that's the whole answer.

It seems to me that the power of the combine is too small for a meat grinder

The power of 900 W in the combine and in the meat grinder is the same. But in the harvester I twist the meat even not at the maximum speed. Maybe you just got lucky with the harvester?

600W in the combine, and in my meat grinder 1200W

[Dr.NO]

Dr.NO,
Thanks for answers.
There is an option Kenwood 10 from Germany -22400r. all together with sending and Kenwood KMM760 1200vat in our country for 17300.
I think the second.Less money, with a guarantee, is inferior in power to 200 watts.

There is an option Kenwood 10 from Germany - 22,400 rubles. all together with sending and Kenwood KMM760 1200vat in our country for 17300.
I think the second. Less money, with a guarantee, is inferior in power to 200 watts.

I just called, they don't have the Kenwoods. So more likely from Germany.

Good afternoon everyone.
Who has used or is using the KRUPS combine. German .
Models 940-950-990-. It is possible to order from Germany.


Krups Krups food processor KA990T Titanium with accessories

Intelligent engine technology monitors and adjusts the engine power 5000 times per second and adjusts it automatically (Speed ​​Adjustment System).

The consequence is constant speed = constant working speed, regardless of the amount of ingredients, even with heavy preparations (up to the maximum recommended amount). Here, the Krups engine requires a lower engine speed for the same result, resulting in the engine (Silence Pover Electronic) running on pleasantly quiet running noise.

Controlled intelligent engine technology and adjusts engine power 5000 times per second
12 speed settings and pulse function
Programmable timer
10 year engine warranty
Power: 1200 W
Kneading Advanced Technology
high Doppelknethaken stainless steel allows the constant inclusion of air and optimal Vermenung of ingredients during Knetprogesses for excellent results.

With programmable timer
Allows time-saving and comfortable operation thanks to bales of forward run and reverse start programmed with automatic stop.

Accessories:
kneading tools (Doppelknethaken, whisk, stirring hook)
bowl (5L, 2kg of dough) made of stainless steel with 2 handles
transparent plastic splash guard cover with opening filling
lids, spatula, dough cutter and recipe book

technical details
Kitchen machine - 1200 W - Titanium
Functions Stand mixer, kneader, blender
Settings, Controls and Indicators
Control type Electronic
Display type LCD
Timer setting options Features
Timer
Speed ​​settings 12 presets
Power supply
Maximum power consumption 1200 W

Bowl capacity 5 liters
Functions Stand mixer, kneader, blender
Maximum speed 300,000 rpm
Additional functions Heart rate, speed control system, open whisk system
Engine warranty - 10 YEARS

You can't get spare parts for this one. Check out Coonwood's KMix. I think in the same price range.

[Dr.NO]

Dr.NO,
Clear.
The crazy stabilization of the dvigla, a 10-year warranty on it and a timer is captivating.
The hook is still double.
They cost almost 2 times more in our country.

This is not a standard connection, use at your own peril and risk. The load will be not only on the auger, but also on the drive unit as a whole.

Let me disagree. In the instructions for Bosch 4655, the upper position is designated as standard, there is even a drawing of how to install a meat grinder to scroll large volumes. Actually, in the photo that was attached, this is what it is - the regular upper position.

Good evening everyone! Very fired up harvester, reliable and durable ....
What I need from him:
1. Compactness, so that it fits on the table for cooking.
2. The meat grinder is good to grind the meat well and not be noisy (the finer the grate, the better)
3. The mixer is good (cream (sugar and eggs), dumplings, pizza, batter, etc.)
4. Shredder, grater (fine, coarse), potato pancakes.
5. Power more than 700 watts.
6. Juicer (not essential)
7. Cube attachments, if there are such models ...
8. Desirable, the quieter the better ...
9. Bowl, I don't know what it should be, so as not to be small and only one (compactness)
Bosch MUM 56340, after reading the reviews, realized that the meat grinder is very low adapted, inconvenient and the meat must be very finely chopped ... Bosch is not obsessed with, if there are other models, tell me. I will consider any model you specified ... I have a blender, Brown ... But there is no mixer ...
Thank you in advance!!!

[Wolverine]

Wolverine, only one combine is suitable for your requirements (mixer, meat grinder, shredders, cubes) - Bosch MUM 54251.




There are no other models in nature, that is, at all. The meat grinder can be moved to the upper position, then it will be easier to handle large quantities of food. But yes, a meat grinder in a food processor is not a beast, but you want all-in-one, so you have to sacrifice something. And the harvesters of this series are very good. Bosch 4655 has been working for me for almost nine years.

Bosch 4655 has been working for me for almost nine years.

I have 5 years. In ex. condition. Full set. Without cube cutters. I am ready to pay for small tugriks.

[Daffi]

Daffi, Thank you for the videos, but unfortunately we could not see it, because the video card flew on the laptop .... But I understood you that you can change the location of the grinder (this is very important). I'll go read about this harvester, especially the price worries .... And this harvester immediately with a "cube" attachment?

[Daffi]

Daffi, Yes, one more thing, I remembered that there is a nozzle for cubes on the Zelmer meat grinder, tell me a combine without cubes ... Please!

[Daffi]

Daffi, Yes, one more thing, I remembered that there is a nozzle for cubes on the Zelmer meat grinder, tell me a combine without cubes ... Please!

All other BOSH MUM models come without dice, so you can choose among them.

Members of the forum,
Help! We got mum 54420, but we can't install the meat grinder. We watched the video, read the instructions ... It is installed at an angle of 30 degrees and that's it. What to do, what are we doing wrong?

[agan]

agan, you install it and rotate it to a vertical position, then lower the lever. Here is this moment in the video:
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1. installed;
2. turned;
3. secured with a lever.

Unscrew the shaft a little, insert the meat grinder into the grooves and turn it counterclockwise to make it straight. Close the lever behind the meat grinder, screw the shaft again.

All other BOSH MUM models come without dice, so you can choose among them.

Yes Yes. Clear! But there are so many of them and I don't know which one is good. POWERFUL? Wear-resistant ... Another request, write the latest BOSCH models, I mean powerful and more advanced ones. Thank you in advance!

I read, read and again stumbled upon the following problem: the absence of an intermediate grater, that is, a coarse grater and very fine, but a medium one is needed. Tell me which Bosh has an average grater, it is very necessary ...

[Wolverine]

Wolverine, a medium grater, as well as a grater for Korean carrots, potato pancakes and French fries can be purchased in addition, so this is not a problem at all. All of them are suitable for both 4 and 5 series of MUM and MSM combines. None of the MUM contains a medium grater. Perhaps one of the MSM has it in the kit. In which one - I will not say, because I do not know.

Thanks a lot, everyone! She put out the meat grinder. Melit is fine. Finally I ground my favorite bacon and chopped it with homemade bread! The buzz ...

[Daffi]

DaffiThank you very much for your answers ... I'm re-reading the forum here and I realized that I have a very good meat grinder .... If you do not mind, tell me the models of combines without meat grinders. Preferably remain:
1. The mixer is good, powerful (cream (sugar and eggs)
2. The kneader is obligatory (planetary). (dumplings, pizza, shortbread, etc.)
3. Shredder, graters, including for potato pancakes.
4. Power over 700 watts.
5. Juicer.
6. Blender (mashed potatoes, chopper)
7. The bowl is metal, not plastic.
I will consider any options, thanks!

[Wolverine]

Wolverine, Most likely you will not find this. I have a decent meat grinder on my farm, and in spite of this I bought MUM 56340+ for it all the graters + cube. Happy as an elephant after a bath

[sazalexter]

sazalexter, Yasnenko, sad! I wanted to save a little. And what other graters have you bought, besides the cube? Does MUM 56340 also have two standard graters - fine and coarse? Yes, you like the meat grinder in the food processor, do you often use it? Or is it your meat grinder?

[Wolverine]

Wolverine, I do not use a meat grinder from the combine. Graters bought such a Disc grater / shredder medium 463690 = 468742 = 573024 Bosch Siemens, Disc Julienne for Asian dishes to a food processor 460135 = 463689 = 573025 (MUZ4JS1) Bosch Bosch, Disc for French fries 461246 = 463715 = 573023) (MUZ4PS2) BOSCH SIEMENS Bosch Siemens Attachment for shaped cookies for kitchen. combine 461248 = 573027 MUZ45SV1 BOSCH, 🔗
The set includes 3 double-sided graters, fine and coarse, a shredder and a disk grater 080159.

[Wolverine]

Wolverine, according to your requirements:
1. The mixer is good, powerful (cream (sugar and eggs)
2. The kneader is obligatory (planetary). (dumplings, pizza, shortbread, etc.)
3.Shredder, graters, including for pancakes.
4. Power over 700 watts.
5. Juicer.
6. Blender (mashed potatoes, chopper)
7. The bowl is metal, not plastic.

any BOSH MUM 5 series combine that does not have a meat grinder will do. There are such models:
- Bosch MUM 52120;
- Bosch MUM 54420;
- Bosch MUM 52110;
- Bosch MUM 54920;
- Bosch MUM 54020;
- Bosch MUM 54720.

Some of them have a power of 700 W, some - 900 W. Some have a blender for liquids, some don't. Some have a citrus juicer. You don't make mashed potatoes in such a blender - you get a paste. Maybe other models of food processors fit your requirements, I don't know. Go to Yandex Market and take a look.

[sazalexter]

sazalexter,

Disc grater / shredder medium 463690 = 468742 = 573024 Bosch Siemens,

That is, there, in the combine, the shredder grater is large, right? Is it possible to shred cabbage with a grater or a disc for shredding, what kind of cabbage is obtained?

The set includes 3 double-sided graters, fine and coarse, a shredder and a disk grater 080159.

And also, tell me, what is the difference between the MUM 54240 and MUM 56340 models?

[Wolverine]

Wolverine, according to your requirements:
any BOSH MUM 5 series combine that does not have a meat grinder will do. There are such models:
- Bosch MUM 52120;
- Bosch MUM 54420;
- Bosch MUM 52110;
- Bosch MUM 54920;
- Bosch MUM 54020;
- Bosch MUM 54720.

Thank you very much!!! And already despaired .... I'll look through everything, again, thanks !!!

Hello!
I can no longer choose myself, I re-read so many things, revised ... My head is spinning ...
Therefore, I decided to seek advice from experienced users of food processors.
I'll start with what I want:
- kneading any dough (including very togo - noodles, manti, dumplings)
- powerful meat grinder
- a large selection of graters / shredders (potato pancakes, fries and Korean carrots) - it is clear that there will not be everyone in the kit, but that would be an opportunity to buy
The blender and juicers are not interesting, but if they are, it will not hurt.

I choose between Kenwood KMC010 and Bosch MUM4 or MUM5
Kenwood attracts with a huge selection of additional attachments / devices, but the price is a little scary, although the husband already agrees
MUM4 - there are also a lot of attachments, but I'm afraid that his power is too small for a meat grinder, and I read that he can hardly cope with a tight dough (jumps on the table, growls)
MUM5 is already more powerful, but unfortunately the choice of additional accessories for the 5 series is very limited.
Tell me what to choose.
Does MUM4 have enough power or is it still not enough and you want more power? Does he handle tight dough? And how is his meat grinder?
Is it worth buying a very powerful Kenwood, despite the fact that I will use its main function (dough mixing) no more than 1 time per month ...

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Kenwood is great. I had the same torment, but the choice was made in favor of the mumik5. Indeed, aunts can be bought before, but the kneader for dumplings, noodles works fine. I did everything perfectly. The batch was 400 gr. Flour. Grind about 3 kg of minced meat. Nothing clogged, grinding is normal. There is no disappointment from the purchase. We must take a chance.

MUM4 - there are also a lot of attachments, but I'm afraid that his power is too small for a meat grinder, and I read that he can hardly cope with a tight dough (jumps on the table, growls)

That's for sure.
I ordered Kenwood 010 in Germany. Already left the customs. But I took more of it for baking bread.
If for a pastry chef, then probably MUM. At the very MUM 4655

[Nikonorka]

Nikonorka, Is MUM5 more powerful than MUM4? and he has more choice of attachments + Cube https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=136353.0

I'll start with what I want:
- kneading any dough (including very togo - noodles, manti, dumplings)
- powerful meat grinder
- a large selection of graters / shredders (potato pancakes, fries and Korean carrots) - it is clear that there will not be everyone in the kit, but that would be an opportunity to buy
The blender and juicers are not interesting, but if they are, it will not hurt.

I choose between Kenwood KMC010 and Bosch MUM4 or MUM5
Kenwood attracts with a huge selection of additional attachments / devices, but the price is a little scary, although the husband already agrees
MUM4 - there are also a lot of attachments, but I'm afraid that his power is too small for a meat grinder, and I read that he can hardly cope with a tight dough (jumps on the table, growls) More: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=1007.0

Eugene, if you are looking for a unit for standard (non-commercial) use, as a mum4 user, I highly recommend it, very much! True, I did not try to make steep noodle dough in it, I make it with knives in Phillips, but by 4 mum you can buy a multi-mixer with knives. (here, in topic with dumplings Natalishka made it on the 4th muma koyuk - everything worked out!)
In my opinion, the opinion of an ordinary housewife who loves to cook, the 4 series mummies are the most balanced in terms of price, power, functionality! If I had come across this unit three years ago, I would not have bought a Phillips, although I really like its mill ...
I want to tell you the following about the meat grinder - having bought a powerful brown 1500W meat grinder at the dawn of family life, I boasted to my mother, to which my wise mother asked what kind of meat I was going to feed my family, that I decided to buy such a catering equipment? And, you know, she was right! Not even once in these 15 years, I have not needed the POWER of a meat grinder - I buy good meat, carefully cutting off all the bones and veins ... So think carefully, do you really want to feed your husband and children with ground veins? Maybe it's better to cook jellied meat from them?

Of course, balance and rationality are not always the main thing for us in the choice of technology ... There are also questions of budget and aesthetic preferences. If the budget allowed me, I would buy KitchenAid, its power is completely indifferent, for me it is just an incredibly beautiful unit, but, alas ...

I recently became the owner of Boshik 4855. What I want to say, I kneaded the dough on dumplings with it and I think that everything is fine, it is kneading. I even mixed 1200g flour for Christmas gingerbread. Maybe you can't do this, I don't know, but the combine is kneading. Regarding the meat grinder, having a brown 1500 into which you don't even need to push meat, the speed of grinding and the convenience of using more dishes, and not a plate, then of course I don't like the meat grinder in Boshik ... I always thought and knew that a good meat grinder should be separate- machinery from the combine. I do not like graters in Boshik, but it doesn’t matter, I will add it to you. Yesterday I was shaking the cabbage to ferment. I am satisfied with the speed, but there are drawbacks here too. The cabbage, already cut, was stuck in the neck and did not want to fall out into the bowl. I often had to pick it out with my hand. In general, I am satisfied with the combine, maybe because I have never had a better one. And a mixer with a bowl !!! - this is such a relief when whipping, you don't have to hold anything in your hands. The harvester was bought only because of the mixer. So, I'm glad that I have it, especially since it's a gift !!!!!!!

I decided to write about my combine, maybe someone will come in handy ...
About three months ago I was choosing a harvester, reading the forums, and for some reason I bought a Moulinex FP662 ...
Almost immediately the fastening on the bowl lid broke off, but after gluing it with super-glue, it works ... Today the stem broke and, accordingly, I was left without graters ...
In general, it is all toy-plastic and no vaunted French quality ...
I use a meat grinder, but there is nothing to compare with, I have never had an electric meat grinder before ... It clogs terribly ...
Now I am sitting and thinking whether to buy a new stock for it or buy used spare parts for my beloved Brown 700, which has served me faithfully for 5 years, not 3 months!

it is all toy-plastic and no vaunted French quality ...

Many (many) years ago I bought Moulinex Odazio-3. He has served me faithfully all these years. True, I took a complete set "-1", that is, without a meat grinder. The household had an electric meat grinder already at that time. So, what am I doing - last year I saw it on a shelf in a store. Immediately struck by the "he is not like that." Came up, examined carefully, well, not that! I took it in my hands - it is about twice as light as mine. She began her research by touch. Complete disappointment. The plastic is thin - thin. Now I refrain from recommending my model.

Girls, and no one knows anything about the Supra FPS-7715 Black Food Processor? Does anyone have it yet? Find out the size of the cube and how it is in general.And the price is too attractive now in the well-known chain store M -...

Many thanks to all who answered. (I couldn't unsubscribe earlier, the children get sick)
All advice and opinions taken into account
And already even inclined to buy MUM5, but once again read the topic about MUM5. And I was somehow embarrassed by the posts about the breakdown of plastic parts in the meat grinder and in the holder for the whisk / hook and again doubted ...
I have never had a combine, but I feel that I really need it. And I want a good one, for many years ... And that there would be less plastic in it ...
So I think maybe it's worth watching MUM8 or kendud. I went to the store again, looked at them - somehow I like bosch more and it seems that it will get up more conveniently in my kitchen. And for cubes I will buy Philips 1669 with add. grates and I will be happy, especially since my old breast blender broke. And it also has a chopper knife and you don't have to buy a multi-mixer for MUM ...
I try to persuade and convince myself

I choose between Kenwood KMC010 and Bosch MUM4 or MUM5

This is not the first year I have been the owner of Kenwood 010007, I love my Keshka very much and use it every day. And I wanted to bring the same joy to my mother, but I have no opportunity to give her a car of this level, so I looked towards cheaper analogs. This Saturday I bought a Bosch MUM 4856 EU for my mother. I brought it to my mother and immediately began to study it. Girls, I'm just in shock! How can you ask that kind of money for such quality! There are simply no nozzles, the whisk is even scary to take in hand, you are afraid that it will crumble. The graters are thin, I generally keep quiet about the meat grinder. The connections are so flimsy that it's scary to even turn on this wonderful machine. You know, although my mother was satisfied, but inside I have no joy from such a gift. Even somehow ashamed of such low quality. There was a desire to take it back to the store, but my husband did not allow it. By the way, I ordered it through an online store, so I didn't see it live, otherwise I wouldn't buy it in my life. Of course, I apologize wildly to the owners of this combine, but my opinion is that Kenwood and Bosch cannot even be compared.