Slash-22
Apparently, the last question about the product configuration, since I could not find an answer anywhere, I decided to ask on the forum
A couple of days ago they brought the ordered mum4780, to which my wife was very happy, but I did not find a plug in the place where the corollas cling (the circle that is worn with the corollas does not count, since it does not hold normally), a meat grinder, or this plug is not in nature ??? It's just that when, for example, the citrus press is turned on, and the whisk attachment is empty, the mechanism starts to work, but it is not covered by anything ... tell me
natalka
Quote: Slash-22

Well, yes, I know all this, but I thought that the connectors for connecting accessories are the same there, so I asked about the mill, but now I know what and how, thank you ladies

No. they don't fit together. 8 is much larger than 4, and the connectors differ from this.

Quote: Slash-22

A couple of days ago they brought the ordered mum4780, to which my wife was very happy, but I did not find a plug in the place where the corollas cling (the circle that is worn with the corollas does not count, since it does not hold normally), a meat grinder, or this plug is not in nature ??? It's just that when, for example, a citrus press is turned on, and the whisk attachment is empty, the mechanism starts to work, but it is not covered by anything ... tell me

There is nothing there. In any case, I didn't have it either. You can, if it really bothers you, use the upper part of the hook to cover. It can be attached separately without a whisk hook.
Slash-22
That is not particularly annoying, I just wanted to know whether to express my "fe" to the online store or not
It turns out that everything is fine. Thanks again. Today, by the way, we will experience for the first time
taty
Girls - boys
it is worth remembering that the glass blender in mum 4
requires a lot of attention, simply inconvenient.
A lot of parts must be untwisted, it must be thoroughly washed, wiped, etc.
Maybe plastic is better, I don't know

I would like to know how easy-to-use a blender in Kenwood is ...
irism
blender in kenwood is great !! understands great, but you can wash without disassembling - there are no blunt grooves in it, it is smooth inside, no waste gets stuck)))
Slash-22
taty

I have a plastic blender in mum4780, today I made a milkshake, in principle, there were no problems to wash, and there is a spout for pouring.
taty
There is no spout in the glass, but this is not the most unpleasant thing ...
The glass flask is heavy, to wash you need to unscrew, you need to firmly grab the flask with one hand, while holding onto the handle with the other, then another rubber gasket ... and so on in reverse order ...
And sometimes my liquid leaks right through ... when assembled ...
Just a Bosch chopper in a Bosch mixer is convenient: you took out a knife and wash a whole container, but it's small ...
Slash-22
That yes, I've seen a lot of comments about how it breaks. Apparently, for women, it is really heavy ...
natalka
So you can (if it's so problematic) buy a plastic one through a service or a store where accessories for equipment are sold (it's easier to find in Internet stores and cheaper there).
9oksana9
A metal blender generally goes to Kenwood, or you can buy one - there are no problems with it at all
Sofim
Girls, please help!
I choose a combine - I broke my head.
I read all the topics about harvesters, but I still haven't decided.
The functions I need:
auger meat grinder,
convenient shredders for everyday volumes,
whisk for beating eggs, cream
Well, an ordinary knife - it is everywhere and so it is.

I wanted Bosch Cube, but then a separate meat grinder must be put somewhere, everything in one seems to me more convenient and compact.

About Boshi MUM, they write that the shredders are not very good.

Kenwoods are expensive and it seems to me that they are more focused on dough kneading (there is not much in the database), but I have enough dough from HP with my head.

Stopped at
PHILIPS HR-7766
MOULINEX FP 517 D
MOULINEX FP 655 DBE
MOULINEX FP 656 GBE

Philips praise more. But these Moulinexes have a smaller base - more compact.
MOULINEX FP 517 D seems to suit, but in the photo it does not have a normal wire whisk - some kind of plastic whisk or is it something else ..

In general, knowledgeable people - please advise!
LiudmiLka
I don't know about these models, but I want to give advice about a meat grinder. It will still be low-powered. Better to take it separately. For example, I have a 900 W harvester (the power for the harvester is not bad), and the auger meat grinder in it is 1000 W (this is a minuscule for a meat grinder). Only fillet and takes What good is it?
But without a classic whisk it is better not to take a combine harvester - my opinion.
Luysia
Sofim, I can say about PHILIPS HR-7768: I have this for 5 years.

1. Wonderful auger meat grinder (grinds everything and quickly), any the meat does not get stuck, there is a sausage attachment.

2. Shredder graters are good (there is a grater for potato pancakes). Rubs quickly and almost without residue. Shredder with adjustable slice thickness. What seems to be missing is a grater with slightly large holes (like a borsch grater). There are medium and small. But this I most likely find fault.

3. The knife grinds everything well. Grinding from nuts, breadcrumbs to minced meat and delicate pates. If you need to grind something not to the emulsion, but so that there are pieces, then it is also convenient, since there is a pulsating mode.

4. I didn’t make friends with a dough knife, and then a bread maker appeared and there was no need for it.

5. Whisk the whites normally, but a little noisy.

6. The blender is also good, there is a very small inner strainer for it.

7. What gathers dust in the closet is a juicer. The squeeze doesn't seem to be bad, but the bandura is huge and I don't want to carry it because of a glass of juice. Better a good juicer separately. Look, there seems to be a model with the same equipment, but without a juicer.

And there is also a good quality of plastic, for so many years nothing burst, nothing cracked (and this is often complained about that the bowls fall apart in a year). I really don't wash them in the dishwasher, like on the shore.

In general, I am satisfied with the combine, I am not going to change it yet.
There are really no cubes.

Quote: LiudmiLka

I don't know about these models, but I want to give advice about a meat grinder. It will still be low-powered. Better to take it separately.

In this case, Phillips is probably a pleasant exception. MEAT GRINDER - BEAST !!!

Even if the meat is not of the highest grade (by quality, of course, and not by freshness) grinds without paying any attention to it with a very high speed!
LiudmiLka
Luysia, and I, after all, when I was looking for a combine, I stopped at the very first on your model. But this harvester was in a store that I don't trust (there were precedents) And in other stores near the house there was no such model. Too lazy to go - now I reap the benefits.
I totally agree with you about the juicer
And one more thing: I really made friends with a plastic knife
Sofim
LiudmiLka,
I read a lot of reviews about meat grinders in combines - almost all laudatory. And I don't process large volumes either. Of course, a separate one is better and more powerful, but you also need to store one more motor.

Luysia,
thanks for such a detailed review!

I can say about PHILIPS HR-7766: I have had one for 5 years already.
And on the Phillips website it is written that this is a 2010 model .. or I didn’t understand something .. or is it 5 years of a similar 7768 model?

In any case, such a positive review pleases - thank you!
Daffi
Sofim, I would not consider Moulineks at all, there are many complaints about the quality of Moulinekes equipment, especially those made recently.
It will be better if you write for how many people you will cook, how often, and what cooking priorities you have.
If you have a small family, consider purchasing the devices you need separately. If you rarely bake, buy a 350-450W mixer for kneading, it will cover your needs. If you often rotate meat and you have it with veins and cartilage, it is better to buy a separate powerful meat grinder, the screw from the combine may not suit you.
Graters and shredders in combines are needed for cooking in large quantities or during the period of summer harvesting. You are just too lazy to rub 1-2 carrots or onions on a food processor. For small volumes, a Berner grater or ...spend a little time and learn the methods of professional cutting, this will save you a lot of time, effort and nerves, believe me
Luysia
Quote: Sofim

Luysia,
thanks for such a detailed review!
And on the Phillips website it is written that this is a 2010 model .. or I didn’t understand something .. or is it 5 years of a similar 7768 model?

Oh, right, I have Essence HR7768. But the package is the same.
Quote: LiudmiLka

And one more thing: I really made friends with a plastic knife

In my harvester, the bread knife (for the dough) is also iron.
Daffi
By the way, now on the Ukrainian Nekerman there is BOSH 4701 at a price of UAH 1099, consider it a gift
Article number 222114TY 00

You can purchase a meat grinder for it in the service.

I know from myself that a harvester is the cherished dream of any housewife, but even the best harvester is not as convenient as it seemed at first. The attachments will take up a lot of space, you will not use some of the attachments in the end, because they work worse than you expected (as a rule, these are juicers). Graters and shredders are often or too lazy to take out, wash or chop the wrong pieces as you expected, or leave a lot of leftovers.
LiudmiLka
Now I looked in the internet about Phillips. Reviews are good, but the main bowl is only 2.5 liters. This will not be enough, in my opinion. I'm used to my 3.5 and then I would like more.
Daffi
Surprisingly, I didn't even expect the most positive reviews for the low-power Philips 7605. If you buy a mixer, a Gamma electric meat grinder and a blender for it, then a large expensive combine will not be needed
Sofim
Quote: Daffi

SofimIt will be better if you write for how many people you will cook, how often and what your cooking priorities are.
If you have a small family, consider purchasing the devices you need separately. If you rarely bake, buy a 350-450W mixer for kneading, it will cover your needs. If you often rotate meat and you have it with veins and cartilage, it is better to buy a separate powerful meat grinder, the screw from the combine may not suit you.
Graters and shredders in combines are needed for cooking in large quantities or during the period of summer harvesting. You are just too lazy to rub 1-2 carrots or onions on a food processor. For small volumes, a Berner grater is preferable or ... spend a little time and learn the methods of professional cutting, this will save you a lot of time, effort and nerves, believe me

The family is small and the kitchen is only 10 m2 - separate devices need to be folded somewhere, but here at least one motor.
I don't cook that much, but I cook.
I bake often, but HP completely tired me, I don't need to knead the dough.
There is a 450 watt Bosch mixer with a chopper (very small volume) and an immersion blender.
I was too lazy to beat them whites, I want to press the button and not hold anything in my hands.
At the expense of graters - will the combine be better for potato pancakes? I don't like pens :)
At Berner's expense - I’m not going to buy it, I’ll probably start with the combine.

Bosch considered - thanks for the link. Confused by reviews of graters, shredders, a lot of waste like. I'll think.
Daffi
For me, a big mystery about the huge waste after shredders in MUM, I don't have that. Yes, there is waste, but I would call it insignificant compared to the volume of processed products. In reality, there is an unwashed piece 1.5 mm thick and small small pieces, and this is after rubbing 1-1.5 kilos of carrots or a two-kilogram head of cabbage.
Somewhere a photograph of the waste after the grater in Muma slipped through, it can be seen that there was a tiny piece of carrot.
Rina
I suspect that the amount of waste, as the saying goes, "is not necessary one time at a time." In this technique, there is no absolute fit of parts, there are some minimum tolerances. For example, in my Kenwood shredders there are also large enough pieces, but I have not seen a single review with a similar problem. Apparently, this is the height of the shaft or the fit of the shaft socket - ± 1-2 mm and now, quite tangible pieces ...
Daffi
On some Kenwoods there is a problem with rubbing residues, I read it repeatedly, they have a disc diameter less than the bowl diameter and the unattached pieces fall into the rubbed mass + a large gap between the pusher and the rotating disc.
Sofim
Bosch from Nikkerman - 600 watts. Isn't it too small for a meat grinder if you buy it separately?

There were also reviews that the blendell bowl is leaking (mum 4756, I don't remember exactly), although this is probably also individual ..
Daffi
I have 550 W and everything is fine, meat without veins twists without problems. But do not forget that a separate electric meat grinder has a power of 1.5 kW.

If the grinder does not pull, the plastic fuse will break, the engine will remain intact. The fuse can be purchased through the service.
Daffi
The blender does not flow, but passes a couple of drops, even if it is poorly assembled after washing. Either the seal is poorly positioned, or the base with the knives is loosely twisted. But even if a couple of droplets seep, they will not get into the engine, because the design is good.

The combine comes with three discs with five graters, two double-sided discs (2 * 2 = 4) + Parmesan / chocolate grater for a total of five. I bought a grater for julienne and French fries, but I didn't buy it for potato pancakes. You can buy a medium-sized grater.
All accessories are marked with MUZ ***, the number after the Z means the number of the series for which the accessories are intended. For MUM 4655, 4701 and other cobmines of the fourth series, there are accessories marked MUZ4 ***
Sofim
Meat grinder or something
Do such Bosches have a universal knife for a large bowl? in the description is not .. is it possible without it?

Yeah, asked a problem .. which is better than Bosch or Phillips?
Luysia
Quote: Luysia

There are really no cubes.

I forgot to write, there are no cubes, but there is a disc for fries. Cuts into cubes that are not quite ideal in terms of geometry (slightly curved), but quite suitable for frying, etc.

Quote: Daffi

You are just too lazy to rub 1-2 carrots or onions on a food processor.

I gladly rub 2 carrots with a food processor in a couple of seconds and rinse the bowl for the same amount. Why strain and ruin your fingers with a regular grater?
True, the combine is stationary (behind the door of a large kitchen cabinet) and is always ready for work.
Quote: Sofim

Yeah, asked a problem .. which is better than Bosch or Phillips?

Well, here you are, Sofim, you will have to solve this issue and choose yourself!
Sofim
Quote: Daffi

or look for an inexpensive processor, as I am doing now
And why a processor, because all this is in the combine? Well, in Boch, except for the knife ..

Quote: Luysia

I gladly rub 2 carrots with a food processor in a couple of seconds and rinse the bowl for the same amount. Why strain and ruin your fingers with a regular grater?
True, the combine is stationary (behind the door of a large kitchen cabinet) and is always ready for work.
I also plan to put it permanently and rub two carrots :) And if you wash it badly, will the dishwasher wash it?
Luysia, and the opening for feeding vegetables for a grater-shredder of what diameter?
Daffi
Quote: Sofim

And why a processor, because all this is in the combine? Well, in Boch, except for the knife ..

It is the bowl with the utility knives that I miss. Chopping meat into cutlets, chopping baked eggplants into caviar, making chopped dough, chopping berries for "vitamins", chopping greens - a blender cannot cope with these tasks, because it is intended for whipping liquids. I don't have a chopper or hand blender.
From inexpensive, but with positive reviews I found Philips 7605

Food processor

The capacity of the bowl, the completeness suits me perfectly, the power of 350 W (isn't it not enough?) And the fact that the stem is completely plastic confuses me.
Luysia
Sofim, oval hole, about 8cm by 5cm. In the dishwasher, you can wash EVERYTHING, except for the copus itself and the parts of the meat grinder.
LiudmiLka
Daffi, why a combine without a universal bowl and, accordingly, without a metal knife? What good will it be? I chop a large amount of onion with this knife, if necessary, finely. By the way, when I bought the combine, I didn't even intend to knead the dough in it. And now this is the main thing, for which I love him And whips squirrels This song is just ... And creams
In general, the combine must be both powerful and have many speeds, and the "Pulse" mode is mandatory. In short, the Lyusin harvester is excellent in these parameters. I love mine too, but the meat grinder ... I didn't take the quince
Daffi
Quote: LiudmiLka

Daffi, why a combine without a universal bowl and, accordingly, without a metal knife? What good will it be? I chop a large amount of onion with this knife, if necessary, finely. By the way, when I bought the harvester, I was not even going to knead the dough in it. And now this is the main thing, for which I love him And whips squirrels This song is just ... And creams
In general, the combine must be both powerful and have many speeds, and the "Pulse" mode is mandatory. In short, the Lyusin harvester is excellent in these parameters. I love mine too, but the meat grinder ... I didn't take the quince
Have you ever seen Bosch MUM and Kenwood Chef harvesters? There are no bowls with knives in them By the way, Yulia Vysotskaya has Bosch MUM, she constantly uses it in Eating at home.
A bowl of knives is not the most necessary thing in a combine, although each has his own, of course. I have a shredder in Bosch 4655, I can chop a mountain of onions with it, if I need it, and it will be cut neatly and evenly, and not chopped with knives

It seems to me that this inexpensive Philips will completely replace the bowl with knives, and for other operations I have my beloved Bosch 4655 with all the necessary attachments.
Sofim
Quote: Daffi

It is the bowl with the utility knives that I miss. Chop meat into cutlets,
And for me the minced meat for cutlets is not very good, the meat grinder still chops evenly. And in a chopper from a Bosch mixer (in fact, the same bowl with knives in miniature) or mashed potatoes or uneven pieces.
Daffi
Quote: Sofim

But for me the chopped meat for cutlets is not very good, the mincer still chops evenly. And in a chopper from a Bosch mixer (in fact, the same bowl with knives in miniature) or mashed potatoes or uneven pieces.
Girls, what are you doing in the bowl of utility knives? Otherwise, you will dissuade me from buying a processor, God forbid
Luysia
Quote: Daffi

Girls, what are you doing in the bowl of utility knives? Otherwise, you will dissuade me from buying a processor, God forbid

I shake EVERYTHING. Without the utility knife, I certainly wouldn't be happy!

Quote: Luysia

3. The knife grinds everything well. Grinding from nuts, breadcrumbs to minced meat and delicate pates. If you need to grind something not to the emulsion, but so that there are pieces, then it is also convenient, since there is a pulsating mode.

LiudmiLka
Quote: Daffi


A bowl of knives is not the most necessary thing in a combine, although each has his own, of course. I have a shredder in Bosch 4655, I can chop a mountain of onions with it, if I need it, and it will be cut neatly and evenly, and not chopped with knives

I use a shredder if I need a bow, for example, with rings. And for minced meat or for my favorite eggplant recipe, I need a LOT of SMALL onions. With a knife on "Pulse" - these are seconds, even a split second, depending on the amount of bow
Daffi
Quote: LiudmiLka

I use a shredder if I need a bow, for example, with rings. And for minced meat or for my favorite eggplant recipe, I need a LOT of SMALL onions. With a knife on "Pulse" - these are seconds, even a split second, depending on the amount of bow
I incorrectly put it, I make a lot of finely chopped onions with a disc for Korean carrots. And with a disc for French fries, I cut the cabbage for filling into pies or pie.

Please advise something about the combine harvester I have chosen. It has utility knives + emulsion disc + shredder + medium grater + potato pan grater. Power 350 W, one speed + pulse mode. The topmost risk on the container is 1.5 liters. Price 508-525 UAH I posted a photo of the combine harvester.
I sit and think: to take or not to take?

Nuts, breadcrumbs, powdered sugar, a blender from my processor makes. The blender will beat the cottage cheese with sugar and the addition of sour cream or ryazhenka, or yogurt, but if you try to make cottage cheese without sour cream, it will not beat it, because in the middle of the curd mass a void forms, inside which the knives rotate and in the end nothing happens.
LiudmiLka
Do not take!!! Very low power. Only 1 speed. Very small bowl volume. There is no metal whisk, but instead an emulsion disc (I had a combine with such a disc - bullshit).
LiudmiLka
Is it possible to make powdered sugar with a blender? I don't know what quality it turns out, but why is the blender still alive By the way, in the instructions for my combine it is strictly forbidden to grind anything dry with a blender. Here is ice - you can, but crackers are prohibited
Daffi
Quote: LiudmiLka

Do not take!!! Very low power. Only 1 speed. Very small bowl volume.There is no metal whisk, but instead an emulsion disc (I had a combine with such a disc - bullshit).
It seems to me that we speak different languages. I have already written a hundred times that I have a full-fledged harvester, with beaters, hooks, shredders, a meat grinder and a blender. I only need a processor with utility knives !!! So why do I need a whisk in it, can you explain to me?
And yes, I make powdered sugar with a blender, and he is still alive and well In my blender, you can even grind rice
LiudmiLka
I did not pay attention to the fact that you are the owner of such a chic harvester
And she answered this:

Quote: Daffi

Please advise something about the combine harvester I have chosen. It has utility knives + emulsion disc + shredder + medium grater + potato pan grater. Power 350 W, one speed + pulse mode. The topmost risk on the container is 1.5 liters. Price 508-525 UAH I posted a photo of the combine harvester.
I sit and think: to take or not to take?

Daffi
Quote: LiudmiLka

I did not pay attention to the fact that you are the owner of such a chic harvester
To avoid confusion. I have this. There is no bowl with knives in it, as you can see.
Food processor

I also want to buy this, I wrote the technical specifications, the equipment is visible in the photo. Chadeika has an older version of this processor, she is happy with it + positive reviews on the Yandex market.

Food processor

I can not decide whether to take this Philips or not. That's why I ask for help
Sofim
Ladies, today in Foxtrot the manager praised the Moulinex FP 655 and FP 656 very much. It’s like a direct drive, which is always more reliable.
Very nice by design.
What do you think? Moulinex definitely not to watch? Only a centrifugal juicer there, according to reviews, is not very good.
Daffi
Quote: Sofim

Ladies, today in Foxtrot the manager praised the Moulinex FP 655 and FP 656 very much. It’s like a direct drive, which is always more reliable.
Very nice by design.
What do you think? Moulinex definitely not to watch? Only a centrifugal juicer there, according to reviews, is not very good.
Well, if you listen to the sellers ... They praise what they need to sell
My friend still spits at the word Moulinex, because she bought their combine, used it and returned it back. As a result, I took Philips and seemed to be happy. I have read many times that the Chinese have bought Moulinex long ago, but decide for yourself. Centrifugal juicers are not praised in the compositions of combines, it is better to buy a separate device.
You will now buy a harvester with a bunch of attachments, start using it and after a while you will understand that:
a) the juicer is not ice, you need to buy a separate
b) the meat grinder does not twist everything that you counted on
c) the graters are rubbed quickly and conveniently, but the size of the resulting pieces is not the same as on the graters you are used to.
d) find something else that will not meet your expectations
As a result, it turns out that buying an expensive harvester does not get 100% overlapping needs. You need to spend money further, because you need to buy some more graters to the combine that are not included in the kit, you need a separate centrifugal juicer, and it would also be nice to have a manual mixer, because it is difficult to beat 1 egg or 1 protein in the combine
Rina
the same direct drive can be found in many brands.

And I spit at the word "Mulinex" because of the meat grinder presented to me, which now I don't know where to stick it.
Daffi
Quote: Rina

the same direct drive can be found in many brands.

And I spit at the word "Mulinex" because of the meat grinder presented to me, which now I don't know where to stick it.
Give the meat grinder to the enemy
Daffi
Now it is so difficult to recommend a combine harvester for purchase. There are very conflicting reviews on my combine on the Yandex market. They complain that the quality deteriorated when the Boschs began to be made in Slovakia. On the other hand, our people are wild, they try to cut the sausage with a shredder, and then they are outraged that a part in the shredder has broken. Someone constantly breaks safety plastic elements in a meat grinder and shredder, while others have a harvester that has served faithfully for more than five years.
I was terribly surprised when I saw a lot of positive reviews for the cheapest Philips. There are practically no dissatisfied people.And if there are, they themselves write that for such money the combine works just fine
Sofim
Quote: Rina

the same direct drive can be found in many brands.
And I spit at the word "Mulinex" because of the meat grinder presented to me, which now I don't know where to stick it.
It seems that only Mulinex has a direct drive with a meat grinder

Quote: Daffi

I was terribly surprised when I saw a lot of positive reviews for the cheapest Philips.
I saw him live, I liked it, cute and compact. There is enough power for him, knead the same tight dough.

Quote: Rina

I don’t twist the meat on it (so far it came up only for the poppy, and thanks for that)
and I somehow got used to slightly break the poppy on a coffee grinder, and then boil it with milk and sugar

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