Zest
Quote: Kapeliya777

Aunt Basya, I (like) jerks are noticeable when I knead the dough. I first turn on the speed from min to 1 until all the ingredients are mixed, and then I switch to the speed from 1.5 to 2, the combine is on my kitchen table, so it walks on the 2nd table, there are no jerks in the work of the beaters, but sound like it works in jerks

What kind of dough do you knead with whisk? If the bread is thick, then the hook is intended for this, and the instruction does not recommend exceeding the speed of 1 on the batch.

Quote: Kapeliya777

And I also have a question you mix well? I made dough for muffins, butter and sugar, mixed very hard several times, stopped and mixed with a spatula, it seemed as if the whisk was missing!

Butter with sugar grinds one or two The muffin dough has become a child's play. But for it, I again use not a whisk, but a K-shaped nozzle.
I use a whisk for whipping proteins or pancake dough.
Chantal
Quote: Kalmykova

Kapeliya777! I make a cocktail with strawberries, banana, milk 2 quail eggs with shell
What is it like?? crunch at the same time?
Kalmykova
Chantal , what are you, grinds everything like a meat grinder, even ginger and parsley - without fibers.
Chantal
what is the use? calcium cannot be absorbed without acid, but Salmonella is absorbed perfectly without acid and without calcium
Boo Boo
In quail eggs, it seems like it is not.
Kalmykova
Chantal ! There is acid in strawberries, kiwi.
Chantal
in the topic about homemade mayonnaise, we have already discussed this and decided what to eat
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=8958.180

the story about the fact that salmonella does not live on transfused eggs went with the assertion that the causative agent of the infection allegedly dies from an increased body temperature of a quail-laying hen (45 *) - in fact, salmonella dies at 75 *

There is also a version that the pores on the quail eggshell are smaller than on chicken eggs and Salmonella cannot penetrate inside - even so, but what prevents it from remaining ON the shell?

and they also write (on non-medical resources) that quail eggs have an increased content of the enzyme lysozyme (but they do not write how much higher, relative to which higher), which prevents the development of unwanted microflora and is even one of "eight essential amino acids that are not produced by the human body." in fact, lysozyme is found in large quantities in the saliva of humans and animals - it is not for nothing that they lick wounds, as well as in tears, in the liver, spleen, etc. And for use as a drug, it is obtained from the protein of CHICKEN eggs
Kalmykova
I actually wash my eggs with hot water and dry them with a towel.
Chantal
salmonella dies at 75 * (doctors write that at 60-80 * it can last from 2 to 40 minutes), for our skin such a temperature is a burn more effective it would probably be scalding with boiling water write that salmonella dies when boiled "almost instantly"
nut
Admin I am very interested in your Kenwood combine, I have such a question - how does the whisk for the cream rotate, does it only spin or does it make movements like a figure eight?
Nastasya
I set out to buy a food processor. I'm studying the topic. This topic rummaged through from and to. I made conclusions, went to the store. The sellers next to me (after the forum) are not just STUPID but VERY STUPID. It boiled ...
Essence of the question. Globally, I settled on three models: Philips Essence (leader), Bosch MUM 4756 and Kenwood 560. Kenwood captivates externally (fits harmoniously into the kitchen) and power. Bosch in general did not make an impression (just a lot of praise). Phillips was just pleased. Took some time to think.
By the way, who has Kenwood? How good is the ice cream maker? And in general, it's expensive, of course, but maybe on the contrary, easily (or not very simple ??) bought only the necessary attachments.
And the Vitek VT1616 combine is also curious. Are there owners of this miracle?
In short, I think. Maybe someone will throw a phrase that will help with the choice. I would be grateful.
PS Correctly they say, if you don't know how to cook, buy some equipment. Will splurge.
PPS And the seller said, you cook, you should know how it works and what you need. I only sell.
Summer resident
Vitek has never heard anything good about the technique, but I have been friends with Bosch for a long time and tenderly
himichka
Nastasya, each sandpiper praises his swamp. I will also praise my Kenwood KM 010 Titanium Chef. The machine is a beast. There is one big drawback: all attachments are purchased separately and are very expensive. The 560 model is not impressive.
Zefirka
Quote: Nastasya

By the way, who has Kenwood? How good is the ice cream maker? And in general, it's expensive, of course, but maybe on the contrary, easily (or not very simple ??) bought only the necessary attachments.
I liked it, just in another topic and wrote about it without hiding

I have Kenwood Chief 560.
It seems to me that a separate unit - an ice cream maker will cost significantly more than an attachment to an existing combine. The nozzle cost about 2.5 thousand rubles.
What about a separate ice cream maker?
Zefirka
Quote: himichka

The 560 model is not impressive.

himichka, and what, if not difficult, tell me?
I have it - Chief 560. I have a very good car and I have different attachments, everything pleases ...
Hairpin
Quote: Zefirka

The nozzle cost about 2.5 thousand rubles.
What about a separate ice cream maker?
Previously, the same amount. Italian Harlequin.
Nastasya
An ice cream attachment at the Deloggi market costs 3150. Land Life ice cream maker delivered to St. Petersburg 1800. So this attachment is definitely not advisable. With an ice cream maker.
In general, I am leaning towards the Philips HR 7768 model. It seems that the most optimal price / attachments / quality / appearance. Interesting information. Rating of combines with a meat grinder.
And let me tell you about the technique for the restaurant. In a restaurant, a food processor is not needed in any case. It only performs one operation at a time. Inappropriate for food service establishments. There you have to do everything at once. Plus the amount of work. How much should a harvester cost for a huge amount of work ?? They don't cook that much at home anyway. The harvester will fly, it turns out that the institution is left without all the equipment. And so separately the mixer can be changed very quickly. And against the background of all this, the space occupied by technology is no longer so significant.
This is in response to a message from the beginning of the topic (about 4 pages) about a particular technique.
Zefirka
Quote: Nastasya

Land Life ice cream maker delivered to St. Petersburg 1800. So this attachment is definitely not appropriate. With an ice cream maker.

Nastasya, This one?
This ice cream maker with email. engine? That is, does she mix the frozen mass by herself? Or do you need to mix it separately, and the ice cream maker is used only as a cold accumulator? I didn't find a description.
Nastasya
Zefirka, and you take a look at the topic Household goods SP... There was such an ice cream maker. She mixes herself.
strawberry
Quote: MISHA

Combine attachment (Gamma-7-01) for rolling dough on dumplings in action.

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I tried to make dumplings, I liked it, conveniently and quickly! I just kneaded the liquid dough, I'll take it into account in the future. I liked this harvester, but it's a pity. that there are no chopping attachments for cubes and straws.
Ukka
Urrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrra!
Finally, Gamma-7-01 was brought to me from Russia!
Thank you UmSabir, Misha, strawberry for tips !!!
Thanks to your advice, a friend in Moscow ordered an Internet letter to the Lepse plant, received an invoice, paid it, and within a week a parcel with Gamma came to him. True, he was able to bring me to me in a month.
Yesterday an hour I looked at all the attachments. The unit is serious, everything is done wisely, everything is thought out! Even plastic smells good
Today I will test.
Thanks again!!!!
Ukka
I have news - I ordered and received a Bosch combine harvester 4427 for the Ukrainian Neckermann. The price is 50 euros.Satisfied !!! I got a normal biscuit !!! Hurrah!!! It used to be a torment for the Chinese to beat the whites ...
natalka
I'm in shock ... And exactly 50 euros? Painfully, the price is attractive, online from 73 to 100 euros, and even then in foreign stores. And over 50 is really great !!! Over 50 and I would like to buy.
Ukka
Quote: natalka

I'm in shock ... And exactly 50 euros? Painfully, the price is attractive, online from 73 to 100 euros, and then in foreign stores. And over 50 is really great !!! Over 50 and I would like to buy.

It costs 679 hryvnias, which is approximately 60 euros (the rate is about 1 euro - 11 hryvnias). But in the same section there is a special offer - for purchases over 700 hryvnia, a 20% discount. I ordered it on July 8th. I ordered thermoses and a set of baking dishes. The first to arrive on July 24 was a package with thermos and molds - 128 hryvnia already at a discount. On August 3, a parcel arrived with Bosch 4427 - 568 hryvnia. In our ordinary store, such a Bosch costs at least 1,500 hryvnia.
For natalka, Hairpins and other Russians - I saw the same Bosch in the German Neckermann at about the same price.
Ukka
natalka, maybe actions are being held in German Neckermann too.
I will try to insert a scanned receipt tomorrow (and the price is also written on the box).
natalka
Or maybe you can order delivery to Russia via Ukrainian Nikerman? Today I tried to place an order, let's see what they say. So it seems like everything went, but maybe later they wake up and write that they are not delivered to us.

And I was already dreaming ... it's so convenient to use this Boshik as a dough mixer ... I have a not bad harvester, Philips HR 7768, everything is good in it, but the dough must be interfered ... rake out. In short, I wanted a Bosch MUM 4756 combine, but they gave it to DR Philips. I almost got used to it, but a decent kneader is lacking.
Ukka
Here is their phone number in Kiev (044) 490 66 90, try to get through. Only I don't remember the exit code for Ukraine.
I haven't tried kneading yeast dough yet, the biscuit dough turned out to be excellent!
Can we order and send you in Ukraine? But sending from Ukraine to Russia will probably cost a lot ...
natalka
Quote: ukka

Here is their phone number in Kiev (044) 490 66 90, try to get through. Only I don't remember the exit code for Ukraine.
I haven't tried kneading yeast dough yet, the biscuit dough turned out to be excellent!
Can we order and send you in Ukraine? But sending from Ukraine to Russia will probably cost a lot ...


Thank you very much for the offer! My mother is in Ukraine and she will be there for another 1.5-2 months, and then she will come to us. I told her today and gave the task to find out, but for now I hope that my application will pass, and if not, then my mother will order.
Ukka
natalka, it would be nice if my mother called Nekkerman and clarified whether it is possible to make an order from Russia, I think it will be safer.
For example, I did not receive any notification of order confirmation by email. On the evening of July 8, I made an order on an Internet, and in the morning I called and clarified. I have already received the parcels, but there is still no confirmation of the order by email.
In general, an order can be made simply by phone, naming your details and the article of the desired product.
And do not forget to clarify about the Mega Sale promotion and a 20% discount for orders over 700 hryvnia in the Mega Sale section.
Ukka
Girls, a question for those who have a Bosch MUM 46 or 47 - does anyone have a disc for cutting potatoes - fries and dis-Julienne? Do you use it often? We have in Komfi at a reasonable price of UAH 149 and UAH 129. And I'm in thought ...
Anastasia
Quote: ukka

Girls, a question for those who have a Bosch MUM 46 or 47 - does anyone have a disc for cutting potatoes - fries and dis-Julienne? Do you use it often? We have in Komfi at a reasonable price of UAH 149 and UAH 129. And I'm in thought ...

ukka, if you like using other discs on this harvester, then you will like the julienne disc too! The fact is that I have a MUM4655 - I didn’t like using it at all, in principle, a lot of unrecycled waste came out. But I bought a Bosch with cubes and all these discs and graters are also suitable there, so now I use it with pleasure (including the julienne disc, which you are asking about) - there is practically no waste in it!
Ukka
Anastasia, Thank you!
I like your combine, I even envy you a little with white envy, but:
1. A little expensive for me.
2. There are 25, 30 and 40 models in Ukraine, 29 are not yet, the sellers in the city's shops learned about it from me ...
And so my Bosch MUM 4427 is the best for me. Yes, there is waste, but I still have Gamma with a vegetable cutter, there is practically no waste. Both combines perfectly complement each other. And the fries disc and the julienne disc are tempting. But how often will I use them? ...
Anastasia
Quote: ukka

Anastasia, Thank you!
I like your combine, I even envy you a little with white envy, but:
And the fries disc and the julienne disc are tempting. But how often will I use them? ...

Well, in general, I just wrote about the Bosch-cube to explain why I did not use julienne before, but now I do. How often will you use it? Well, just imagine, he gives out strips of carrots ideal for soup, as they usually say, cut into strips. Well, from this size and proceed, what else can you cut them, cut them? So you will understand, you will often use it or not. I stuffed the carrots and froze them.
Ukka
The straws are so tempting !!!
Anastasia, Thank you!!!
Thanks to you and the girls from our forum, our city learned about the existence of Bosch - Cubic!
k.alena
I bought a disc for fries and a disc-julienne, and also a disc for potato pancakes at the same time as the combine. The main drive was for potato pancakes, and the rest for the company. There is a lot of waste and I used it only once or twice, but rather half that it was in the spring, and then just the old potatoes were already over. And now you can already start the season. The fries disc and the julienne disc are brand new. For small volumes of slicing, Berner and me are enough. And I took just in case of blanks, such have not yet happened.
Anastasia, thank you !!!
Thanks to you and the girls from our forum, our city learned about the existence of Bosch - Cubic!
Yes, they also looked at me in the store with big eyes. I was interested in the subject of reverse replacement - cube attachments for my MUM. They said it seemed impossible, but hope dies last.
Ukka
k.alena, and disk for fries and disk-julienne used at least once? In general - is it worth taking? By the way, I had a disc for potato pancakes included, but I haven't used it yet ... I also have a Berner-type grater, I like it, but it's dangerous ... And I'm such a dreamer ... I cut myself a couple of times ... But only shred cabbage on such a grater and on another I will not buy! But for a Korean carrot you will be tortured on a grater. On mine there is no attachment for Korean carrots, but the fine grater is still large ...
That's why I want a julienne disc. And for fries, probably, so that it was ...
Anastasia
Quote: ukka

On mine there is no attachment for Korean carrots, but the fine grater is still large ...
That's why I want a julienne disc. And for fries, probably, so that it was ...

For a Korean carrot, disc julienne would work. But after all, carrots need to be grated along so that they are long strips? And how to stuff carrots across the harvester?
Anastasia
Quote: k.alena

Yes, they also looked at me in the store with big eyes. I was interested in the subject of reverse replacement - cube attachments for my MUM. They said it seemed impossible, but hope dies last.

No, it will definitely not suit MUMik. The fact is that the cube cutter is not a disc, but a whole attachment that fits directly onto the pin, which is located in the middle of the bowl of the combine. This attachment fits the MCM series.
Ukka
Quote: Anastasia

For a Korean carrot, disc julienne would work. But after all, carrots need to be grated along so that they are long strips? And how to stuff carrots across the harvester?
Across - no way ...
k.alena
Quote: ukka

k.alena, and disk for fries and disk-julienne used at least once? In general - is it worth taking? By the way, I had a disc for potato pancakes included, but I haven’t used it yet ... And for fries, probably, so that it was ...
No-eh disc for potato pancakes in the kit does not go to any configuration, it rubs in mashed potatoes (too lazy to climb a link to look for it).Here I have a disc for fries and a disc-julienne to be. Maybe if it happens to fry potatoes for a bunch of guests, it will do or, for example, make eggplant saute for the winter ... But so far this is not planned.
Ukka
k.alena, I have a Bosch 4427, in addition to the usual three disks, there was also a disc-grater from stainless steel. steel MUZ4RS1
marinal
Personally, I have a BOSH MUM 47 combiner in a standard configuration, only large and small ones were made of graters, at first it was fired up to buy both a fries attachment and a julienne attachment, and then I read the reviews, I thought, weighed and agreed with the opinion of many housewives:
julienne nozzle: well, does anyone really consume tons of Korean carrots? most likely not, all the more so the carrots grated on a special grater (for Korean carrots) have the right size and nice long stripes. I think everyone loves to consume aesthetically pleasing food, not the trimmings that come from the harvester. The nozzle is worth a lot of money, and the grater is 10 hryvnias.
fries nozzle: maybe it’s good, I won’t argue, but since there is a Berner in the kitchen arsenal who copes with this task just fine, I decided not to buy it WHILE ... there are a lot of scraps and wash the burner for 3 seconds, and the harvester nozzle needs to be disassembled
This is just my opinion, and if someone on the forum admirably tells how he is great at chewing on the harvester ... I will also run to buy nozzles
k.alena
Quote: ukka

k.alena, I have a Bosch 4427, in addition to the usual three disks, there was also a disc-grater from stainless steel. steel MUZ4RS1
Well yes she is! It's just that when I was choosing a combine (recently, in the spring), such discs were no longer included
fries nozzle: maybe it’s good, I won’t argue, but since there is a Berner in the kitchen arsenal who copes with this task just fine, I decided not to buy it WHILE ... there are a lot of scraps and wash the burner for 3 seconds, and the harvester nozzle needs to be disassembled
That's it, so until you need to cut a bucket, it stands beautifully on a stand
Ukka
Girls, I had Bosch with four graters, I bought it in the Ukrainian Nekkerman
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Many thanks for the advice !!! I will not buy a fries attachment and a julienne attachment ...
natalka
Ukka, thanks to your tip, I now also have such a combine from Neckermann. A week and a half ago, my mother brought it to me from Ukraine. They have already rubbed a lot (during this time we have already had two birthdays) and somehow did not bother with the leftovers, because there were practically none of them. And after that, I personally wanted to buy both the Julienne disc and the fries. It's just that we don't have them on sale now, but as I find them, I'll buy them. It seems to me that they will find work.
Ukka
natalka, I'm so glad that you did it !!! Congratulations!!!
My friend also bought a harvester in Neckerman (on my tip), happy! Really real discount! I went to the store, there MUM46 model 2300 UAH ...
natalka, and whipped the whites? I finally saw what peaks are in whipped egg whites.
And about the julienne disc and the fries disc, I have not yet decided, until I will. Maybe some of the girls will take pictures of the cuts on these disks ...
natalka
Thank you, Ukka, for the congratulations! I myself am terribly happy with such an acquisition! I specially studied the assortment and prices of our stores, and so, for such a price you can buy the simplest Boshevsky mixer with a pair of sets of beaters. But this is not the same! This one is much cooler - planetary, and even a shredder is a plus.
I haven't whipped the whites yet, but I've already done a lot of dough and creams. The charm as interferes and shreds remarkably. Truth lacks the average grater. One is too small, and the other is too large - not all of them fit.
Ukka
Quote: Anastasia

The fact is that I have a MUM4655 - I didn’t like to use a single disk on it, in principle, a lot of unrefined waste came out.
Yesterday I finally tested my nozzle with discs for Bosch 4427 ... The carrots I bought in stock began to deteriorate ... I grinded part on Bosch on a coarse grater, it turned out that the size of the cut suits me for stewing, and part on Gamma is there regular size for soups. I haven’t figured out how to use the small one yet ...I put the grated carrots in the freezer.
By the way, I had practically no waste! True, the grater on Boch did not want to take eggplants. But Gamma doesn't take them well. Eggplants rub well only peeled.
I'm thinking about a julienne disc and a fries disc again.
Shurshun
Quote: ukka

And about the julienne disc and the fries disc, I have not yet decided, until I will. Maybe some of the girls will take pictures of the cuts on these disks ...
Here you are:
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pepper, carrots for cauliflower are made on julienne, I personally like it very much, and a small shredder on a fine grater is somewhat different than on a julienne, a large one is very coarse IMHO, and it is cut faster on a julienne than on a fine grater. Although on the combine, everything is done quickly. On BOSCH 4655 I have once again a reason to regret the lever for attaching nozzles
And the cabbage is also made on julienne
afnsvjul
Sorry, of course, maybe not quite in the subject, but I just became the happy owner of BOSH 4756. I want to use mayonnaise on it, but I don’t understand in the instructions which attachment is needed for this - a whisk or should it be mixed in a blender? And then I'll do business!

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