LiLy11
If I were faced with a choice between Bosch and Kenwood, I would choose Bosch. It has a good price-quality ratio, I myself try to buy only a trusted manufacturer, I myself have a lot of Bosch equipment, and not only in the kitchen, I have never been disappointed.
Sindi
Girls, thank you all for your participation and advice. I ordered Boshik, they will bring it today, the only thing with MUM was unlucky, marriage, everything that was available, so the dream of cubes has flown away for now ... Well, okay, we will be happy with what we have. I'll try it out today
vernisag
Gulya, Congratulations! Let it serve for a long time and only please!
vernisag
Supra now also cuts into cubes, the pleasure is worth 3700 rubles.

Food processor
Musenovna
Today I just watched and almost participated in the rolling of meat on Boch. The meat was probably 4 kg beef + pork. Excuse me of courseDaffi, but this tin is so scroll the meat. After 15 minutes of torment, we went to the neighbors for a normal meat grinder, which coped with its task with a bang, and in 5 minutes maximum.
550 watts can only handle chicken meat. And don't mislead people. You shouldn't skimp on what you are going to use for more than one year.

I will not say anything about the attachments for the bowl for kneading dough and proteins. Just for the sake of interest, take a look "live" at Kenwood nozzles 010,020 or 080 series and it will be immediately clear. It turns out only with a shredder and cope. Then it's better to buy a meat grinder with a shredder, at least the power there will be normal, otherwise it turns out wasted money.
Taste and color though ... Keep looking for the pros.
Daffi
Musenovna, you made me laugh very much, do not be offended. Do you like Kenwood? I'm glad for you, but you don't need to find fault with other harvesters, which work no worse, but are much cheaper. I have been using BOSH MUM 4655 for 10 years. My hands are straight, so the minced meat is made from beef and pork, and the whites are whipped with a bang, and the dough turns out.
sazalexter
Quote: Daffi
My hands are straight, so the minced meat is made from beef and pork, and the whites are whipped with a bang, and the dough turns out.
I join the previous speaker. Kenwood 010,020 or 080 for home is an obvious overpayment of money, unless of course you are fond of producing sausages in small batches Well, as they say, "all markers taste and color are different"
Sapphire
I have a BOSH MUM. I use it almost every day, it is light, it whips up the proteins smartly, kneads the dough, twists the meat with different graters. An excellent harvester for the price. For large amounts of meat, you need a good meat grinder. He has good tips. You can't drag Kenwood every day. On the countertop, I do not like it when it is made, it seems a mess. I put everything in closets.
Rada-dms
I have Kenwood 010 for the tenth year, and I don’t have to think about what he is "sharpened", because he is "sharpened" for EVERYTHING !!!
vernisag
No, well, what is there to argue, Kenwood is definitely better, more powerful and more reliable, it's just expensive.
And I will buy a Boshik, I realized that I can not afford cash.
Taia
GulyaWhich Bosch model did you choose?
Jouravl
Quote: Rada-dms

I have Kenwood 010 for the tenth year, and I don’t have to think about what he is "sharpened", because he is "sharpened" for EVERYTHING !!!
Likewise. True, I am not in my tenth year, but the last 2 years. Stands on the table top, assembled together with a meat grinder. Everything is at hand, you do not need to get anything, collect. If we consider a "clean countertop", then you need to remove everything - kettle, multicooker, coffee maker, but this is unrealistic, because all this technique is created for our comfort, makes our work easier and reduces the time spent in the kitchen ... Of course, Kenwood is expensive fun, it is at least justified ..
Galleon-6
I also have BOSH MUM, it suits me very much, I use it constantly.It twists the meat without problems, whips the whites perfectly, kneads the dough perfectly and much more, in a word, an excellent assistant in the kitchen. The main thing is that I could afford to buy it, but Kenwood 010 is financially very expensive for me
Daffi
If the hostess cooks on an industrial scale, then Kenwood is a must. If the family is not very large: two adults and one or two children, Bosch will have enough. And, what is most interesting, the prices for BOSCH MUM with the same functionality differ by 2-3 times. Those who need cheaper - buy BOSH MUM 4 series, who need more expensive and more impressive - BOSH MUM 5 series with a bunch of nozzles and cutting into cubes, or generally BOSH MUM 8 series - for professionals. If you want something superfood, you can order Kitchen Aid from America. There the power is only 350 W, but the machine-animal will mix everything, beat, twist and grind)))
Musenovna
I am for a separate meat grinder, in principle.
Each sandpiper praises its swamp. I expressed my opinion after actually using one and the other combine.
But the price tag isn't very humane for Kenwood, but it's worth it.
Daffi
At the very least, be honest and compare harvesters of the same tier and same price range. For example, Kenwood 10, Kitchen Aid and BOSCH MUM 8 series. And so you, in fact, are trying to prove to everyone that the Porsche is cooler than the Mercedes)))
Musenovna
Rather, Lada Kalina and Mercedes.
I would never have bought myself a Bosch Mum even 8 series.
I expressed my opinion that it is better to buy a good meat grinder with a shredder and a bread maker, for example, if you need to knead dough, or even a regular mixer does a good job of it, than to buy such combines.
But again, this is your own business.
Daffi
Musenovna, I trust the experts' opinion. And they are sure that BOSCH MUM 4655 is the best harvester on the market. You can see the test results of 20 combines 🔗
The same in the form of a table 🔗
Sindi
Irinochka, Opening Day thanks
Taia, I bought BOSCH MCM 4100 in the online store for excellent reviews, I chose a very compact and powerful model and a budget price. I liked the MUM models and the model that Daffi offered, but it was not available.
Yesterday we wound up instantly about 3 kg of beef, and there were veins, Bosch was just a beast)) I also chopped a huge cabbage into 2 3-liter cans for sourdough. Also in 5-8 minutes! Washing the combine and that takes longer
I'm glad
Daffi
Sindi, by the way, yes: the most unpleasant thing about the combine is washing))) Congratulations on a great purchase
Sindi
Daffi,
NataliaVoronezh
Maybe not quite on topic, but bought a MUM with a dicing attachment. I want to sell a meat grinder, a nozzle for cubes and a grater from this combine. I wanted a pure mixer, and for the rest there is an MCM6, a separate meat grinder. Maybe someone needs these attachments? Let's help each other out.
Musenovna
Daffi, this dispute is senseless. The test is clearly very outdated 2010, and now 2014, if I understood correctly, German is very far from me.
And I trust the bakers. For the sake of interest, go to the pages of Kenwood and Bosch Food Processors, the number of pages for Kenwoods clearly exceeds and there are very few negative reviews, even for cheaper models.
alexanderi
Tell me what is better to use, first of all, for shredding cabbage (as for salting or as for pies) a BŐRNER grater or a Bosch MCM-2050 food processor?
Together with the combine (so that it was) you can buy a disc grater for raw vegetables (Bosch MCZ 1 RS1) + a disc for French fries (Bosch MCZ 1 PS1)
Lettera
alexanderi, Gigant Multihobel
n7vllSFWvhc
Scarecrow
Quote: Daffi

There the power is only 350 W, but the machine-animal will mix everything, beat, twist and grind)))
Peak power and constant power are two different things, so don't get Kitchen into it))). Kitchen has a constant power rating that he can deliver for 10 minutes of work in a row. If you measure the peak, the numbers will be different.
alexanderi
Lettera, Thank you, we choose between the combine and the BŐRNER graters
Lettera
alexanderi, I understand that you are going to buy ...
Meanwhile, what is already there, I definitely will not help you
alexanderi
Lettera,
Quote: Lettera
Meanwhile, what is already there, I definitely will not help you
Anyway, thank you very much for your help. Happy New Year!
Lettera
alexanderi , not at all
Quote: alexanderi
coming NG!
Mutually
I’m reading you, I’m reading you here and don’t understand why no one is considering Ankarsrum Original until it has risen in price?
What amazes me most is how little it takes up space and there are no extra attachments.
There are no cubes (that's why the Philips 1669 blender was bought), but otherwise it is better than the same Kenwood, and now they are similar. I catch sneakers and tomatoes
Scarecrow
Lettera,

Arkansrum is primarily a kneader. To buy everything else and change the position of the device every time in order to connect one of the nozzles (put on its side) is not the most exciting activity))).
Crochet
Quote: Scarecrow
Arkansrum is primarily a dough mixer

I think so too ...

I just have a basic set of Ankarsrum, I admit that those with a Deluxe set think differently ...
Lettera
Scarecrow, Crochet, I agree, but after all, the combine is bought here mainly as a kneader + functions. For some reason I remembered about him, he has not yet risen in price, unlike Kesha.

p. from. it's not hard for me to put it on its side
However, "everyone chooses for himself ..." © himself
Nyusya23
I want to share my opinion, I had a Bosch 4, I used it for about 8-10 years already and I don't remember exactly bought it when we didn't have Kenwood on sale yet, I was happy with the horror, but then somehow I tried to twist the poppy with a meat grinder, as a result, the auger it broke down in a meat grinder, you can knead the dough only up to 1 kg of flour, it climbs more on the hook and squeaks so plaintively that I was afraid that the engine would burn out, this is not the same effect. Washing Bosch is not a very pleasant moment, it seems like nothing special, but for some reason it was annoying. In general, he already began to annoy me. (I even stopped using it often. And I started looking at the harvester for kneading more dough, and found Kenwood, began to study everything, found that Kenwood has induction-heated harvesters, very interested.
With half a year was determined, but still chose the Kenwood chief 086 model. I want to advise who is choosing now, if there is an opportunity to buy kenwood, then take it, if there is no opportunity, then find it, otherwise you will still regret later that you did not take a good one. It does not take up much more space on the kitchen table than Bosch, but here is a completely different level. Even the plastic in Kenwood is much easier to wash than that of Bosch, or it is more glossy, then that it is of good quality, that's for sure. I wish everyone who dreams of a new harvester to make your dreams come true by the New Year !!! Happy Holidays !!!
vernisag
We have Kenwood KM 086 in Yulmart - 129,000 rubles today already ...
Nyusya23
In Ukraine, the last price for 086 was 17,600 hryvnia, which is about $ 1200, the new price of 20,999 hryvnia is according to the official. the rate is 1260 and for the commercial it is about 1100 and is on sale
Nyusya23
Something you have turned down the price, in principle, it always cost 1000 euros
vernisag
And we "sweep" equipment, all in a row ... in the stores there is nothing at all. New Year's holidays, but the rate is growing foolishly, it's shorter ...
I don't want anything anymore, I completely beat off all the Wishlist as the price stabilizes, so I'll watch it already.
Nyusya23
Better to wait than take whatever
vernisag
Quote: Nyusya23

Better to wait than take whatever
So I thought so Don't give in to the general excitement, it doesn't burn, I'll wait ...
Nyusya23
That's right, you need to buy such things deliberately, I wish you to fulfill your desires in the near future, good luck !!!!
Franky
Some time ago, my choice fell on the Bosch MUM 57810 and I love it dearly. I already had a meat grinder separately. But I honestly admit that the appearance played an important role - Kenwood reminds me of an armored tank :-) And the price, of course, too. A Kenwood bowl of comparable size costs one and a half times more (at least with us), but it seems to me that it is definitely not one and a half times better.

And the test on the above test.de page without German is not very easy to interpret correctly. You need to look at the assessment of individual categories. Here is their translation (in the context of this topic) and the weighting factor in the overall assessment, if anyone is interested:

Funktion - performing standard basic functions (knead, beat, chop, etc.) 40%
Handhabung - convenience in use 20%
Anleitung und Rezepte - instructions and recipes 5%
Vielseitigkeit - versatility, basic attachments and add. gadgets 10%
Belastbarkeit - behavior under loads (they kneaded yeast dough there for a long time and tediously) 10%
Geräusch - volume 10%
Sicherheit - safety in use 5%

🔗
Crochet
Quote: vernisag
Do not give in to the general excitement

Yes, of course not necessary ...

But despite the fact that I understand everything with my mind, she still did not hold back or rather, I didn't even try to do it myself ... and yesterday, having seen new prices for household appliances and for all kitchen appliances in particular, I ordered myself blender ...

The price of this model has grown right before our eyes by 2.5 tons. ...

At the old price I managed to grab ...

I'm sorry for the off ...
Taia
Quote: vernisag
Don't give in to the general excitement, it doesn't burn, I'll wait ...

Do not give in to the excitement, but do not forget the proverb: "Do not put off until tomorrow what you can buy today."
vernisag
Quote: Taia
"Don't put off until tomorrow what you can buy today."
And I did just that .... I was driving home from work, along the mega path, went in, left with a combine + a gift of a plague in general
Nyusya23
vernisag, and what kind of harvester and what gift?
vernisag
Kesha 010 and as a gift 3 pieces of dough attachments, well, there is rolling and 2 pasta.

Food processor
julia_bb
vernisag, did the right thing, congratulations, Kesha is cool!
Nyusya23
vernisag, Congratulations! Here is a gift for the holiday, today is the Holy evening, tomorrow is the day of St. Nicholas the Wonderworker! May dreams always come true, and Kesha serves you!
vernisag
Thank you girls!

All recipes

New recipe

© Mcooker: best recipes.

map of site

We advise you to read:

Selection and operation of bread makers