Scarecrow
Igrig,

I read it to the end. But after you proved how bad the chest was on a whole sheet, I could only understand the last phrase as: "Think about it !!! And don't buy the chest!")))

Well, Duc, no question. You are comfortable in a different way - great. Everyone is entitled to their opinion / experience. I am not against the fact that it is convenient for you in a different way and I am not trying to convince you. I was against the way you put it. With ridicule and light mockery. Only...

And you will excuse me for being too harsh ...

Igrig
Quote: Bijou
Frost in winter, in spring and autumn in every way. I have never noticed thawed meat or fruit in many years.
Look online for details.
Here's just a snippet of many lines from a refrigerator repair site:
- At temperatures below +5 ° C, the motor may not turn on, since the thermostat setpoint value, which is responsible for the compressor operation at the set temperatures, is not allowed.
- Of great importance is the type of freon, the viscosity of which depends on temperatures.

Freon can simply "freeze" and the engine will shut down.
Why does everything work for you? Maybe the whole point is that at the bottom left you have it written: "From: South"? That is, keep in mind that, for example, at night your temperature dropped to 0 degrees, the refrigerator turned off, but its freezer will be defrosting for a very long time - a day or two, you don't fuss with a thermometer every day in the freezer. I have never checked it at all, I somehow trust the display on the fridge and freezer, although, to be honest, I usually don't look at all. Like the vast majority, I guess.
And, by the way, my Atlant refrigerator honestly does not work on an unheated veranda at my dacha, when it is cold at night in September-October (from 0 to 5 degrees), and frozen foods begin to thaw slowly but slowly. Alas!
Bijou
Quote: Igrig
And, by the way, my Atlant refrigerator honestly does not work on an unheated veranda at my dacha, when it is cold at night in September-October (from 0 to 5 degrees), and frozen foods begin to thaw slowly but slowly. Alas!
It's amazing ... No, it's clear that I don't shove a thermometer in there every day. More precisely, it always lies there, but I don't remember what it shows.))

Our south is normal, Russian. That is, frost to fig, but the main winter temperature is around zero. And two more refrigerators with freezers in unheated rooms - a glazed balcony and a vestibule to the street with cracks under the door. I get into these freezers every day and there is enough field for observation. I did not notice that the products were warmer than usual. Next winter, I will certainly measure the temperature in the freezer at such a problematic temperature, although the Bosches are perfectly trained to squeak loudly in cases when they cannot reach the set temperature for a long time. And they didn’t even squeak even once at the set -16.
natushka
Girls, help with the choice of a freezer, please. The volume is sufficient about 100l + -, preferably more reliable and cheaper, with low consumption of electricity. But only the size limitation for me, from the wall to the aisle of maxims. the size is 55cm, so the depth size (as I understand it) should be no more than 55cm, better less, but I didn't find such on the Internet, and we don't have anything really in our stores, only big and expensive ones. I thought to put it sideways in the aisle, but then the back wall of the freezer will be visible. Even the lari looked to make sure the depth was suitable, and the length of the chest could be up to 1m, but also found nothing. Maybe, when you were picking yourself up, you met something suitable? Also, reviews are everywhere 50x50 or not at all. I found several models: Liebherr 1223 and 1376, but a little expensive, it is also written that the cost of repairs is almost like the cost of a freezer. Eyelid FSE1070. Chest Kraft XF150A. I would have taken Atlant, but I could not find a suitable size. It's hard, I understand, but maybe someone has such, I trust your opinion much more than reviews. Thank you.
Ok-sa-na
natushkaI faced a similar situation. There are not enough freezers in Atlanta (4 pcs.). Space in the apartment - not much. Found a chest Gorenje FH 130W. Height 85 - width 50 - depth 70 x 124 liters. My problems were solved. If I figure out how, I'll add a photo in the apartment.
natushka
Oksana, thank you, but this model will not work, it has a depth of 70, which means that you will have to pass by only sideways and exhaling, I have 55 permissible, but only 50 is better, but nothing. It would be nice, on the contrary, it was 70 wide and 50 depth, but ..
Chamomile
Quote: natushka
It would be nice, on the contrary, it was 70 wide and 50 depth, but ..
and put it sideways? Opening, of course, will not be very convenient. But you don't open the freezer as often as the refrigerator.
natushka
Quote: Chamomile1
and put it sideways?
We need to see which back wall, maybe it will be fine, although it is inconvenient. Do you need to put frozen food in the chest? Somewhere I read this in a review.



Added on Monday 08 Aug 2016 08:39 PM

Oksana, if not difficult, can you take a photo of the back wall?


Added on Monday 08 Aug 2016 08:41 PM

I found everything on the Internet.
knob
natushka! The girls have already advised to put it sideways, then you can fit into the size. But, only you understand whether it is realistic for you to do this. We do not see the layout. I bought myself a Beko, just a little more. At this stage, I'm very happy.
natushka
Quote: knop
is it realistic for you to do so
Yes, I think so, only the back wall will be visible either immediately at the entrance or from the room, I have a Khrushchev building, a narrow corridor, only 1m x1.2 places, if you put it sideways and pass it will be better and there is a possibility of opening the door to the corridor from the room. Today I went to M. Video and Eldorado, well, there is nothing suitable, you won't have to watch it live. The only one I saw was Larry (larger sizes), height 85cm, I couldn't reach the bottom in them (25 cm), I tried. Also Shivaki, but big and expensive and Liebherr, also mediocre, I am silent about the price. I asked the seller if there are small ones - only on order. I also asked Liebherr about the electronic system, and answered that it is necessary to connect all equipment in general through stabilizers, and this is still money, and a place is needed. I liked Liebherr inside, Shivaki liked the back wall; Beko and Gorenje are not at all, not even big ones to look at. It is so difficult to choose when there is no opportunity - did not like it, replaced it.
Nirinka
natushka, Natalia, look at the freezers Saratov, they have a narrow series, 49 cm wide, different heights. It works for me for 3-4 years, it freezes well and quiet)))
natushka
Nirinka, Irina, thank you, I'll see, I kept staring at Liebherr, it hurts their insides are good, and there are other characteristics (I found a suitable size and price), but I read the reviews that if they break down, they cannot be repaired or very expensive. Does anyone else have Shivaki? And the size and price are very suitable - 11-14 thousand. Beko did not find it at all for ordering on the Internet, it is not available everywhere. Yes, girls, the Ourson freezer has appeared, but there are no reviews yet, China does, the warranty is 1 year.
Belka13
natushka, do not think about the bad and do not tune in to the bad. Like Liebherr - take it and don't worry. I have a Liebherr freezer and refrigerator Side by side. Pah-pah-pah, they work.
natushka
Quote: Belka13
Like Liebherr - take it
Olya, you will need a stabilizer for it, but there is nowhere to put it. How many years has he worked for you?
Belka13
Natasha, unfortunately, I don't know anything about the stabilizer and I can't tell you. My double refrigerator has been working for two years, my friend has the same, but a little simpler, three years, and the freezer has been working for five years, in my opinion. Of course, the term is not very long, but sometimes they fly in the first year.
Svetta
natushkaLiebherr original does not break! They have been working without breakdowns for decades! But only the original, other Liebherrs made in Slovenia or Bulgaria are just not very reliable.
natushka
Quote: svetta
Liebherrs made in Slovenia or Bulgaria are just not very reliable.
But they are on order and go, but there are no original ones at all, so there are doubts
Bijou
Yes, laaad. Maybe the cars from the German factory are more reliable than the others, but not so much!)) Hammer in the search Liebherr German Assembly Leak and you will learn a lot of interesting things. It does not depend on the assembly, but on the construct. There is a jamb in the design - freon comes out in a weak spot and he wanted to sneeze at the assembly site. It is believed that in recent years they have changed something there, which is why the reliability in this regard has grown.

All brands with such a structure have leaks in the foam part. But only Liebherr recognizes this as his jamb and changes the refrigerator within 10 years after the purchase through his dealership after being declared non-repairable by an authorized service center. Yes, the money is received by others, but at least there is some ...
E-len-ka
Good day. Are there any lucky owners of Pizis freezers? I look after myself, I really liked that it has two compressor units, I also liked their refrigerator, now I’m all in my mind whether to take it or not. I would like to know how it freezes, does it cope with its tasks, makes a lot of noise?
Chamomile
Pozis and Sviyaga are one and the same. I have such a freezer. But my one compressor and it is normal, without noufrost. I'm happy with my freezer, it works quietly, it freezes well. The ice, of course, freezes, once a year I defrost mine too.
Guylechka
Liebherr has been working for me for 5 years, he serves faithfully! During this time, there were several emergencies: the lack of electricity for up to two days does not affect the frozen food in any way, that is, there is no hint of defrosting; in the spring I did a general cleaning on the loggia, disconnected it from the network and forgot to turn it on ... I remembered the second week after cleaning ... it was scary to open it! Summer preparations were already running out, but there was a lot of meat, as a result, I threw out the remnants of berries, fruit slices, cooked compote from the cherries (it was in a bowl and leaked, but did not deteriorate), the meat went straight to the trash heap, but ... naturally the meat was thawed, but there was no smell and, surprisingly, it was still cold !!! I had to urgently cook, fry, so as not to freeze again. In general, I am insanely happy with Liebherr and, one might say, in love with my freezer!
Lera-7
Quote: Guylechka
Liebherr has been working for me for 5 years

Gul, what is your model? I choose a freezer, I tend to Liebherr.
Belka13
Lera-7, I'm not Gul, but I'll tell you about my chamber - my freezer Liebherr 2733. Assembled Austria, height 165 cm, 7 shelves. Cheaper than German assembly. Has been working for 5 years. I'm glad.
Lera-7
Olya, thanks for the answer. Yes, 7 drawers is great, but I can't afford the price now. I look closely at freezers for 3-4 drawers. The feedback from real users is very valuable, thanks again.
Svetta
Lera-7, I have Liebherr for 4 boxes (actually 3.5 - one short one) and I am NOT enough! I advise you to take a closer look at the larger size.
Belka13
svetta, I totally agree. It is better to dig in than to regret that there is not enough space. Because he is really missing. Now I ice a lot of things, and at the same time I want the smells of the products not to mix with each other. Maybe there is an installment plan?
natushka
Yes, I agree with the volumes, while I choose and look closely, the appetite has grown from 60 liters to 180. But at the cost of Liebherr in any way, I have read that after 2009 they have become much worse, repairs are very expensive or cannot be repaired, I read that a maximum of 6 years of work fail. Now I have looked after Shivaki 145l and 178 with know frost, but something gnaws at doubts, the company, though Japanese, has a Chinese compressor, assembly or Kaliningrad or somewhere in Siberia. One-off reviews and only 1 year warranty. But what I noticed is interesting, the same model (all the numbers, letters are the same), but made in different ways, some have metal shelves (like in ordinary refrigerators) under the drawers, you can remove them, others do not, they are like in coils. It is strange somehow and the climatic class is written in the description of N / ST / T somewhere, and where N and the seller said for Russia they make only N.And the price for such a volume is quite acceptable, although it is still expensive, but still. They also liked that the sealing gum on the door is removable. In every store, sellers praise their brand, well, it is very difficult to choose, especially since not every size fits. Probably, according to my requests, they have not yet created a freezer, while I still choose (not more than 25 thousand), but naaado. Eh, if they stood side by side, yes included
pljshik
Girls, and to me the master (who poured the refrigerator with a frion for us), when I asked which freezer is better to take, advised me to pay attention to the Samsung, well made!
natushka
Quote: pljshik
pay attention to samsung, well done!
Samsung is praised, but they are not and prices ...
Lera-7
Quote: svetta
I advise you to take a closer look at the larger size.
svetta, so I generally began to want three boxes first. But, as they say, appetite comes with eating. Began to consider options for four boxes. I would like to, Liebherr, because they have a climate class SN-T, and I suppose to put it on a loggia, but the price
Quote: Belka13

svettaIt is better to dig in than to regret that there is not enough space.
So I think, can you take your time? But it caught fire right now to buy, otherwise the three boxes available in the refrigerator are sorely lacking! Oh, this is the flour of choice. Girls, thanks for the advice. I went to think further
pljshik
Thoughts were to change, I have a freezer since 1993, Stinol 106 is my smart girl. And after all, the choice in Mvideo was very large, you could take a couple with a refrigerator. But until fate, you can wait.
Belka13
Maybe there will be discounts at the end of the harvesting season?
pljshik
Olya, I think there will be discounts for the New Year!
natushka
Girls, but how can you still distinguish, with absolutely the same marking, whether or not what you want when ordering in an online store?


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Bijou
Quote: natushka
In different online stores, these models have different characteristics
And what, no version matches the official site? From sources worthy of trust, I know the Refrigerator, there and the photos are usually very detailed.

The last number is most likely the color - white, white and silver, silver or stainless steel. 170 and 190 different heights.
natushka
Quote: Bijou
this color is white, white and silver, silver or stainless steel. 170 and 190 different heights.
Lena, yes it is understandable. On different sites for these models, the climatic class is different, the shelves are different and the boxes are made differently inside (I saw in stores), but in stores they are more expensive by more than 10,000 rubles.And how to guess with an order on the Internet, the shelves are not visible. I liked the removable shelves, and there are refrigerants with coils. I chose these models, because they are with know-frost.
Bijou
Quote: natushka
I liked the removable shelves, and there are refrigerants with coils. I chose these models, because they are no-frost.
Damn, I have already closed the pages from the off-site and instructions, but my logic is slipping - what kind of coils if this is know-frost?

So why don't you believe the officials? There, both the content and the climate class seem to be adequately indicated. But I didn't see the shelves there. Or are they under the boxes?

It’s hard to believe that the same model is available in different stores with different configurations, I’ve never met this.
natushka
Quote: Bijou
Or are they under the boxes?
Yes, under the boxes. Some are just like in ordinary refrigerators and are removable (there are boxes on them), others are not removable, I don’t know how to do it right with an evaporator or something else, in general, like coils on ordinary metal shelves, like the back wall of old refrigerators, such a black grill. In freezers with such a device, strips are glued to them in depth so that the boxes do not touch. I just want to have removable shelves, although ... I don't know which is better, maybe they are not repairable with ordinary shelves, there is no one to consult with, the sellers are not competent, they did not even pay attention to it. Wow, I tortured everyone, probably meticulous, sorry, it's difficult to choose a reliable technique with limited funds, but it is necessary.
Bijou
Quote: natushka
meticulous, sorry
I don't understand ...
For me, the logic is quite clear - I can clearly see from the pictures and from the instructions different content for different model lines. At the same time, the marking of these very "rows" is no longer so logical, but this is nothing - it is enough to open more instructions in the neighboring tabs and it becomes possible to isolate what you need.

At the same time, you are an eyewitness, not only feeling all this in stores, but also making notes on which model which shelves, drawers, lattices are. And if our conclusions do not coincide with you, then the victory in any case is yours - there is practically nothing to oppose to your own eyes.
Scarecrow
Quote: Krosh

Yeah), I confirm, exactly the same as that of our Svetlana), 333 p. useful volume:

Well, how do you like the chest, how do you master it?
Nata333
Uraaa !!! We ordered a chest yesterday! Liebherr GT 3622-20
Last night, with all the discounts, he cost 31575, and this morning he is already in the same place 39.5 tons. R.
The truth will come only at the end of the month, but I'm already happy as an elephant. No, like two elephants
I will also have time to freeze compote mixtures for small ones and eggplants with zucchini, peppers and ... in general, there are a lot of plans - I want to freeze so many things
Lera-7
Quote: Nata333
Uraaa !!! We ordered a chest yesterday! Liebherr GT 3622-20
Nata, Congratulations! And I kept thinking, thinking and, nevertheless, yesterday ordered a freezer Liebherr GP 1376-20 for 18,690 rubles. on the action in M. video (today it costs 21990 again) I thought for a long time whether I needed a larger camera. As a result, I decided, since I do not have a summer cottage, there is no need to wait for large volumes of the harvest, then in addition to the three drawers of the freezer in the refrigerator, four more in the freezer will be enough. bring
Nata333
Svetlana, congratulations
We ordered it there, but it seems to be coming from Moscow, it was not in stock.
Our relatives have a dacha here (mostly a garden), the old people are not able to work there, and their children do not want to carry apples in bags to the trash, and I have nowhere to put it yet (there are already two cans left) But since August 27 ...
Lera-7
Quote: Nata333
They carry apples in bags to the trash, but I have nowhere to go yet (there are already two cans left) But since August 27 ...
If there is a garden (cottage), then of course you need a large volume of a freezer.I convince myself of the correct choice
GruSha
Girls, how do you freeze green onions?
Mom in the village decided to freeze in a bag, put it in the freezer under the refrigerator. The smell of onions for the next day was even in the refrigerator. They removed it into the container - it did not help either.
Tanyush @ ka
And yesterday I bought a small Freezer Saratov 154 (MSh-90), there is no room for more, maybe someone is already using it, they seem to give a guarantee for three years, but let's see how it proves itself
Nata333
Quote: Lera-7
This I convince myself of the correct choice
And what about dumplings, and pancakes with meat, and the meat according to the promotion is beautiful or chicken? And where is the cheese for khachapuri, which also comes at a good price?
Yes, I also forgot about the ice cream 50% each, butter ...
Still herbs are spicy ...
Tatiana Gnezdilova
Tanyush @ ka, I have had such a freezer for 4 years already, everything is fine, she is happy. It is very quiet. I also took a small one, because there is not enough space in the kitchen.
Tanyush @ ka
Tatiana Gnezdilova, thank you, they just reassured me, Atlant wanted, but all the big ones don't fit in size.
Lera-7
Quote: Nata333
And what about dumplings, and pancakes with meat, and the meat according to the promotion is beautiful or chicken? And where is the cheese for khachapuri, which also comes at a good price?
Yes, I also forgot about the ice cream 50% each, butter ...
Natasha, don't poison your soul! Otherwise I will cry bitterly now

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