Scarecrow
Quote: Igrig


"There is more space in ... the chest, but one must be prepared for the fact that it is difficult for a low person to fish something from the bottom of it, especially if the chest is loaded under the very lid."
Immediately I ask you to forgive me for my slight "malice", but some time ago I discussed this topic with the owner of the chest, who persuaded that there were no problems with using it ... And then the owner of the chest discredited him a little!

Question: do you have a chest? Well, to talk about the advantage of one over the other? Just wondering..))

And forgive me right away for my malice: an amazing thing, different people have different opinions on using the same device. An incredible discovery!)))

You discussed with me. More precisely, they proved to me how terrible the chest is and how beautiful the freezer column is)). And I had the nerve to disagree with you))). I have the right, because I think differently. And I repeat: I still have no problems using the chest! Moreover, I bought the second one. Both are 300 liters. I would like to admire where you would have shoved 3 monolith briquettes of frozen meat 20 kg each weighing. In such a convenient box))). They only got into my chest while standing. Rows)).

As soon as life forces the owner of the chest to stuff food into boxes, containers, etc., then there is practically no difference in the usable volume, but it’s not easy to pull out a large box from the chest.

And why the devil pull it out, big? Do you draw boxes in the freezer every day too?))) The difference is in the useful volume. Because I take whatever box I want. Size. Or I don’t take anything. It all depends on the circumstances, desire, specific need. And you only fit into the size of the box: there is no way to get out of the box. And the absence of partitions makes it possible to tamp / arrange products much more ergonomically. The carcasses of the roosters, which I am chopping now, I just put in the chest in packages. Only 2 freezers fit into one drawer. Otherwise, it won't move. They are stacked side by side to the top in the chest. Because even while standing, even lying, even across - all empty "niches" can be plugged with the next carcass. And in the box of the column, when I have 2 roosters in the box, there is a grated carrot on the side, a piece of minced meat is attached (well, so that the place does not disappear) - no, this "order" in storage does not suit me.

I have been asked about my opinion and the pros and cons from my point of view. Inna-Krosh asked me personally. I described mine. Because I am a user of both devices and both are not one piece at a time (two chests and three freezers). And I like both, because each of them is for his own. And I wrote it right away !! If someone has other household habits - no question. I will not be upset if someone tries on my vision and realizes that it does not suit him)). To discuss - yes, to ask each other questions - yes. But with a snide and from top to bottom to talk about the fact that users who are satisfied with the chests simply do not want to admit that they have burst and everything is awful - no, I will not tolerate, sorry. When everything is bad for me, I write directly, half of the forum knows what Baba Yaga I am, who is always against)).

I only store small items in the columns. This is much more convenient for me: sorted and easier to get. Oversized and a large amount of one (minced meat, for example, carcasses of the same) either stupidly does not fit into the boxes, or it will dissolve in several. It's easier for me to be in one place, otherwise I will forget that I have minced meat here and there, and a little more over there, etc. My farm is very large, I don't remember such garbage. I looked - in a box for minced meat in a chest (and there, 15 kg of minced meat is usually packaged in portions, and a box - oh, amazing !! - I don't pull and don't get it, I just pull out a piece of minced meat and that's it)))) everything ends.That's it, it means the minced meat ends, it's time to make another mountain of minced meat and put it in storage. Something like this.
Jouravl
I also have two chests, one small for 150 in Moscow, now I loaded cherries, strawberries, raspberries and meat from a large chest and take them to Moscow.
I also agree with Natasha, there is no need to fit into the chest according to the size, the head does not hurt about it.
Freezer boxes are fragile and require more gentle handling.
But the chest gave me the opportunity to buy fresh domestic chickens immediately after slaughter in the amount of 15 pieces. I couldn't afford this with a column ..
Mirabel
Quote: Jouravl
one small for 150 in Moscow
is this chest not small? "pissed off"?
Quote: Jouravl
I don't do anything like that, I buy a couple of chickens ...
and there are no huge blocks of frozen meat either ...
Laris, as I understand it, are better for large investments. Yes?





Quote: Jouravl
cherries, strawberries, raspberries and meat, and I'm taking them to Moscow.
is it all from my garden, as I understand it? I have no gardens there are only a few packages of frozen berries from a Russian shop.
Jouravl
Mirabel, Vika, I don't grow much in my garden, I buy all this in boxes in the season when everything is cheaper, I choose everything according to taste and quality, and freeze it. And we also go for meat once a month and a half. Therefore, we need a chest for storage, it is not always possible to go shopping, and outside the city, we need to leave. I buy chickens from a friend, I know that they feed them without antibiotics and they have a different taste!
In your conditions, it may not be necessary, you have everything fresh and of high quality, which cannot be said about our products.

nila
Hmmmm !!!
Igrig, I don't even know what to do - argue with you or laugh with your
Quote: Igrig
Immediately I ask you to forgive me for my little "malice",
ForgiveFreezer selection ... what is there to argue with a person who is completely confident in his innocence
Quote: Igrig
here the owner of the chest slightly discredited him!
But this is in vain you quoted, because either you did not understand my meaning, or simply turned everything upside down the way you wanted to hear it
I’ll tell you more, if now I again had a choice of what to take - a chest or a column, I would not hesitate to take again only a chest !!!
My chest is average in volume, only 310 liters. My height is 1.56m. Only I myself serve the casket. My husband, he has 1.80m, but he doesn't know how the lid of the chest opens only once, when defrosting, the bottom was wiped, and then I asked only because he was at home. And so the bookmark, and (oh, horror! Heavy boxes!) Re-laying, and something to get or find - only I know there! Therefore, I always know to which part in which corner what lies to me. Yes, the boxes are the same partitions, although these partitions move easily, move to the sides. I don't have big boxes. I load up to 5 kg into a box, all without lids. And I don't have many of them. A box of meat (pre-packed in bags with notes. And several boxes of fruit. But even then, just because I froze a lot of apricots and plums, I added the harvest. And packed the halves in foil bags with coffee clasps. more than 30 packages, did not get lost in the chest, put them in boxes.
I took the fish at the wholesale, and folded it in their box, but now I used up most of it, and packed the rest of it and put it on the step. Always at hand, and does not come into contact with other products.
I freeze berry and fruit purees in small containers of a convenient shape for me, after inserting a sandwich bag into it. Then I take out the frozen block from the container, put on another sachet and carefully fold the blocks into large signed plastic containers.
All minced meat, cottage cheese, fillings, champignons, grated vegetables, I pack only in square bags with Freken Bock or Little Things in Life. Their shape, size suits me, and these flat frozen layers easily fit into the cracks between boxes or containers. They stand with me in groups, with locks upwards, are easily removed and I almost always know where which group of products is.
Over the years of using the chest, I have already developed a habit of where and what I lay. I will never, even mechanically, put fruit in the part where the meat is. Now all the semi-finished products (cutlets, mattresses, stuffed pancakes, dumplings, dumplings, cabbage rolls ...), everything that only requires heating or boiling and serving, was transferred to one large drawer of the refrigerator. There is also frozen milk.
The second, smaller box, I fill a little with herbs and bags with vegetables for cooking, so that I don't climb into the chest for every little thing.
The third large box is in the refrigerator while it is busy with fish. But I will free him, cook canned food, because we turn off the old refrigerator in the summer kitchen for the winter, and there in the freezer all the meat of the dogs * is laid.
And so I can't even imagine if I had a column, even the largest in volume, how would I stuff all my stuff there / ram it? Yes, and the girls are right, the boxes are very flimsy. Even if you can ram a lot in volume, but in terms of the weight that I freeze, two columns will not be enough. I have a 2-meter Electrolux, but as I wrote earlier, after a couple of years of not very intensive operation, the boxes began to fall apart and burst plastic
Scarecrow

Quote: Mirabel
I don't do anything like that, I buy a couple of chickens ...
and there are no huge blocks of frozen meat either ...
Laris, as I understand it, are better for large investments. Yes?

Well, of course. Volumes (in the sense of the amount of something) or oversized. With small things like 1 piece of that, a kilo of this - you will lose everything there)). Because its advantage is one large unified space. Of course, for many different products and small products, the meaning of such a layout is lost. My husband brought a sockeye salmon - it's huge. She does not even climb diagonally into the boxes. Here she lies in a chest at the bottom. Each fish is packed in plastic. There are only 2 pieces left, and the smallest ones have been eaten up. Monolithic meat briquettes are for a dog. They are already deep-frozen in 4 boxes of 20kg - where will I put them ?? As a result, 3 boxes in the chest are folded, one is cut into pieces by the husband and in a basket they are stacked in the same chest. To take out and defrost the dog for the evening.

Our people are starting to stock up more and more seasonal. Moreover, there are several reasons for this. Someone saves, although there is little savings taking into account storage costs)). But more and more people are thinking about what they eat. Comparing the store and your choice was made not in favor of the store. The fruits have become nightmarish ((. Moreover, in Europe they are the same ((. But ours have land and have not yet corroded the experience of growing everything in the world. I love home-grown non-broiler chicken, I specially raise poultry up to 4-6 months, then I remove everyone Well, where and how many roosters will fit 3 kg each? 20 pieces at once Well, this is our all for such things.
Kara
Quote: Mirabel
I don't do anything like that, I buy a couple of chickens ...
and there are no huge blocks of frozen meat either ...
And I do not buy 15 chickens and 20 kg meat briquettes. I buy 1-3 chickens, 15-20 kg of different meat (which I immediately sort, I make minced meat from a part, from the other - meat to "stew", from the third - a portion for broth, etc.) And also beets / carrots. immediately grated, spiraled, cut into cubes and washers, chopped greens, all kinds of cheese, pieces and grated. I’m already silent about fruits / berries and cooked food (homemade dumplings, manti, stuffed peppers, pancakes, nuggets, borscht seasoning, ready-made confectionery mixes, dough, etc.). And all this is in the chest. When I was choosing, the main criterion was size, I needed to shove in something that was not crammed, but at the same time with a good volume. The chest is standing in the hallway to the right of the front door and protrudes only a little, 2 cm from the wall towards the door, because the depth is only 54 cm, while the volume is 260 liters. Find me such a column
After buying a chest my life will never be the same, I don't understand at all how I lived without it before. Now I boldly buy two whole salmon, 5-6 kg each, make from minced meat as much as my meat grinder and my nerves can withstand at a time.
Quote: Jouravl
And we also go for meat once a month and a half.
And we - once every two months
Quote: Mirabel
I have no idea how to extract from it what lies at the bottom
I do not experience any difficulties in getting from the very bottom of the chest, I am certainly not a dwarf, but also not a basketball player I use the advice given in this topic, I put the products "thematically" in cardboard boxes (and boxes on top of each other), and, by the way, they take up incomparably less space than the shelves in the column (judging by the shelves in the refrigerator freezer). I take small boxes so that even a stuffed box can be reached by itself and not overstrained.
Quote: Scarecrow
Well, of course. Volumes (in the sense of the amount of something) or oversized. With small things like 1 piece of that, a kilo of this - you will lose everything there)).
No! I do not have the opportunity to put 2 columns and three chests, I am content with one. Packaged in 500 grams (and of course there is also a kilogram) products are not lost anywhere.
The decision must be made based on how many products in kg would like to be added to the freezer in addition to the one in the refrigerator. If more than 20 kg in total weight, then you can safely buy a separate freezer. And in the chest with the correct organization of the space, neither a 20 kg briquette of meat nor a package of 500 g of cherries will be lost. For example, applesauce, packaged in 180 g zip bags (portion for marshmallows), is perfectly stored in my chest in a separate box, I have never lost

Well, here, just for comparison:
The chest freezer with dimensions (HSHG) 84.5x51.5x55 has a volume of 110 liters, it is used volume

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And a column (VSHG) 85x55x58 with a total volume (which includes the shelves) - 92 liters

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As they say, feel the difference
Mirabel
Irina, Ira! Well, everything, absolutely convinced! I have about the same set of products and in the same quantity, which is now crammed into 2 freezers and they are cramped

not correctly expressed. I would like to place the same amount, but it does not work out due to lack of space


just tell me what confectionery mixes are waiting for their fate in your freezer?
And another question for everyone, is it better than non-frost or simple?
Kara
Quote: Mirabel
just tell me what confectionery mixes are waiting for their fate in your freezer?
All fruit and berry purees Some, mostly exotic and those with which to tinker a lot and tediously (passion fruit, coconut, lime, black currant, blueberry), I buy, the rest (all fruits and berries available to us) I procure myself in season ... Mirror glaze of different colors also lives there. I now use the freezer in the fridge for freezing ready-made cakes and pastries and for ice
Quote: Mirabel
And another question for everyone, is it better non frost or simple?
I have the usual Biryusa. For six months nothing critical has frozen, there is a little frost on the walls and that's it
Mirabel

Quote: Kara
For six months nothing critical has frozen,
So don't pay attention to it
Ir, what is your volume?
Kara
Quote: Mirabel
Ir, what is your volume?
Quote: Kara
because the depth is only 54 cm, while the volume is 260 liters
Mirabel
ok Understood everything! Thank you!
but still a question .. I looked a little at our assortment and came across such a thing

Contenu net: 110 l. Le compartiment du haut et celui du bas sont séparés l'un de l'autre et s'ouvrent séparément. Convient parfaitement dans une pièce de taille réduite. Avec super micro-isolation qui vous permet de conserver vos aliments plus longtemps. Fourni avec 1 panier en métal. Dégivrage manuel. Capacité de congélation: 7 kg / 24 h
in short, at 110 liters of volume, 7 kg of frost


how is it? 7 kg can only be frozen? this may be or they mean something else
Bijou
Not, like talking about 7 kilos per day, mm?
I mean, that's what the freezing power is usually denoted. The more, the more powerful the refrigerator / freezer.
Kara
Vikul, we are talking about the capacity of freezing kg / per day, that is, how many kg of food just put into the chest will be frozen per day. This figure is indicated for all freezers. This indicator is probably important for those who freeze food for a day: froze, took out, put new ones. In mine - 16 kg / day with a full useful volume of 260 liters. It happened that I immediately filled it half the volume with fresh products. There were no problems
Mirabel
Quote: Bijou
talking about 7 kilos per day, mm
Quote: Kara
how many kg of food just put in the chest will be frozen per day.
well, but the talent thought it was only 7 kg
Thank you so much! now everything is clear and understandable!
LiudmiLka
How many kg per day indicates the power of the compressor.The less, the weaker and exceeding the bookmark rate can damage it, well, if it is too much to exceed this figure.
Mirabel
Quote: LiudmiLka
exceeding the bookmark rate can damage it
I mean, bookmarks per day?
and which compressor is considered to be normally powerful?
LiudmiLka
It is necessary to look in the description of your model. I don’t know for freezers, but refrigerators have only 2 kg per day, and 12, 15 kg is enough, I saw 20 in the descriptions.




This freezing capacity is called (looked now). Let's say you have a refrigerator for 5 kg, and you threw 20 kg of fresh meat into it, then the compressor will work without shutting down and may overheat, since it can freeze only 5 kg in 24 hours
Bijou
Quote: Mirabel
and which compressor is considered to be normally powerful?
7 kilos is normal.)) But economical. A powerful compressor consumes a lot of energy, a weak one saves it. The main thing is to find that balance so that savings do not turn into inconvenience and continuity of work in the summer, because here the compressor resource suffers. Look at other freezers for this parameter, but 7 is tolerable.
Igrig
Somehow I haven't looked into this topic for a long time, but here, it turns out, there is so much righteous anger addressed to me!
nila
Quote: nila
either did not understand my meaning, or just turned everything upside down
These are your words, I am perplexed where and how I managed to turn over:
Quote: nila
you need to be prepared for the fact that it is difficult for a low person to fish something from the bottom of his bottom, especially if the chest is loaded under the very lid
I don't really understand how you can not understand, and if I turned it over, the phrase would sound something like this: "It is easy and simple for a tall person to fish out something, especially if the chest is practically empty"
Kara,
I am well aware that no one person can convince another. Suddenly, simple arithmetic can do it.
Objectively, if we consider the overall dimensions, the volume of the chamber in the chest in your example is greater than that of the freezer. What is the reason - neither I nor you know for certain, maybe the thermal insulation of the freezer is better and thicker (after all, the energy consumption class is higher), maybe the motor is more powerful and larger in size, there are many options ... But, let's not stop there and let's see the useful volume (all data is obtained from your links):
- Chest Bravo: total 110 l, useful 101 l, useful volume ratio: 101/110 = 91.8%;
- Atlant freezer: total 95 l, useful: o85 l, useful volume ratio: 85/92 = 92.4%.
By the way, my Liebherr GP 1376 has the same size: “Net volume, total 103 l "(quote from the site). That is, efficiency = 100% !?
If the logic does not change me, the freezer has a little, but better! As the saying goes: "Note, I did not offer you this!" (FROM)
Frankly, I don't really understand how this happens, despite the fact that coils are still running between the shelves at the Atlant freezer. Most likely, the Chinese friends did something with numbers, this is most likely.
Scarecrow,

Quote: Scarecrow
But with a snide and from top to bottom, to talk about the fact that users who are satisfied with the chests simply do not want to admit that they have burst and everything is terrible - no, I will not tolerate it,
I hope you will not deprive me of the right to my own opinion? Thank you! Then, firstly, I never wrote anywhere: "But with a snide and from top to bottom ...", if it does not bother you, you can read my post again and then you will see QUOTATION MARK, and this, as I understand it, is two big differences! So we have parity in understanding, I hope.
Secondly, it is not very clear to me how one can deny the obvious things! ??? I absolutely agree with everyone that you can easily put a large item in the chest... Yes, due to the single space in the chest, you can shove more food... These are axioms that it makes no sense to dispute. But when they try to convince me that from the bottom of the chest heaped with food, with a slight movement of the hand pants turn you can easily get a bag of fish by easily and naturally lifting a fifteen-kilogram briquette of meat and bags of frozen vegetables - this is beyond the limits of tolerance, well, at least ridiculous.
Arguments? You are welcome.
Quote: Kara
I take small boxes so that even a stuffed box can be reached by itself and not overstrained.

Quote: Scarecrow
I only store small items in the columns. This is much more convenient for me: sorted and easier to get.
Quote: Scarecrow
Of course, for many different products and small products, the meaning of such a layout is lost.
Or, also the fact that boxes, containers, etc. do not reduce the useful volume at all ??? Why are they better than shelves ???
Quote: Scarecrow
And you only fit into the size of the box: there is no way to get out of the box.
Here I want to disappoint you a little and dispel your little delusion, without any shadow of doubt I can easily and simply put a whole box of meat or fish in 20 kg, or even two, in my little Liebherr GP 1376 freezer. Almost flying !!!))))) And there will still be a place! : yes: There is such a thing: the VarioSpace system. You can remove drawers and thin glass shelves - you get a single volume!
Quote: Scarecrow
Question: do you have a chest? Well, to talk about the advantage of one over the other? Just wondering..))
About the lack of a chest in our household. I have not said anywhere that those who bought the chest have gone wrong, I only wrote about the objective shortcomings of the chest.
You have offended me directly by forbidding me to discuss the shortcomings of the chest, you almost hinted at my inferiority, doubting, for example, that without owning a chest I am in no way able to realize the fact that, for example, it is almost impossible to put anything on the chest! Actually, you can, but very quickly you get tired of cleaning back and forth! Moreover, I have always considered myself not completely deprived of intelligence, and it is enough for me to understand, to look, to open a chest in the store, so that it becomes clear that it will not suit me. Sorry, but there is no time, desire and place to arrange test drives at home.
I also installed the freezer in place with certain difficulties, I had to file the corner of the brick wall, otherwise there was no way. In addition, although I wanted a large freezer, I had to take a low one, because there is also a coffee machine on it! By the way, they chose from two types of the same size: with 3 shelves and with 4 shelves. We realized that it is more convenient with 4 - we are completely satisfied. Or, in your opinion, it was necessary to take two different ones in order to make the final verdict?
You were interested, I hope I satisfied your interest in owning a chest ...

Quote: Scarecrow
When everything is bad for me, I write directly, half the forum knows what Baba Yaga I am, who is always against)).
We both know perfectly well that neither I nor you are afraid of me at all! But somehow you took my post too seriously ... But I didn't even start ...
Well, and one more thing I would like to say. There is the brilliant writer Mark Twain, and he has the "Simple Wilson's Calendar". Here is one quote from there, which is a guide for me in life: “Thanksgiving Day. Today, everyone offers upright and humble praises to God - everyone except the turkeys. On the Fiji Islands they don't eat turkeys, they eat plumbers there. But who are you and I to defame the customs of Fiji?»
Kara
Direct thesis I did not master everything, but I will answer this
Quote: Igrig
But, let's not stop there and see the useful volume (all data is obtained from your links):
- Chest Bravo: total 110 liters, useful 101 liters, useful volume ratio: 101/110 = 91.8%;
- Atlant freezer: total 95 l, useful: o85 l, useful volume ratio: 85/92 = 92.4%.
If you carefully read what is written, and did not fantasize what you want, you would understand that I was comparing not the coefficient of useful volume to the total, but the useful volume to size! But in one thing you are absolutely right

Quote: Igrig
I am well aware that no one person can convince another. Suddenly, simple arithmetic can do it.
And yes, simple arithmetic works wonders
Igrig
Quote: Kara
If you carefully read what is written, and did not fantasize what you want,
Alaverdi. If you read my message carefully, you would see what I wrote about the ratio of volume to dimensions... But, it turns out that you are not at all interested ...
And not for self-interest, but for the truth, the more you love accuracy so much, I will correct you:
Quote: Kara
has a volume of 110 l, it used volume
"General volume: 110 l
Useful volume: 101 l "- all this at your link.
Let's be precise, not fantasize; that's what I absolutely agree with, really, fantasizing is bad!
Kara
Quote: Igrig
But, it turns out that you are not at all interested ...
Absolutely! In conditions where the space for the freezer is extremely limited, and you want to shove in something that is not packed, the dimensions matter. This is what we discussed. The point of my post was that with a smaller chest, it fits much more than a column. In addition, there should be a distance between the back wall of the column and the wall, and the chest can be placed close to the wall.
Quote: Kara
Chest freezer with dimensions (HSHG) 84.5x51.5x55 has a volume of 110 liters, this is the volume used
And a column (VSHG) 85x55x58 with a total volume (which includes the shelves) - 92 liters
At this point, I consider the debate closed.
Igrig
Quote: Kara
At this point, I consider the debate closed.
I bow to the belt and thank you for letting me know! Solidarity again as never before!
With my heart I feel that religion did not allow you to consider the debate closed on my reply!
Ferro
Thanks a lot to everyone who writes in this thread. Thanks to the forum, I was able not to go crazy and decide. I ordered with your invaluable help the chest Gorenje FH 331 W. I got enough that the freezer for 3 large boxes is constantly stuffed to the eyeballs (in the literal sense of the word) with cat and dog food, and I barely knocked off one box out of three under the berries and it is full year round. There is nowhere to put vegetables at all. If the mother-in-law comes and there are stocks of dumplings-pancakes-stuffed cabbage (yes, I have a wonderful mother-in-law, and she loves to cook!), The question is "what to do with the cooked stuff?" just drives me crazy. And when my husband brings a several-day catch of fish, I don't even try to understand where and how he archives it and tramples it down there, this is a mystery without a solution. Two dogs (a shepherd dog and a small pinscher type) - three cats, a private house, and so are we. And I so want to freeze tomatoes, peppers, eggplant, zucchini, cauliflower! Oh, this is what kind of life will go now !!! Thanks everyone! And Glory to the Forum !!!

Please help me find a topic about storing frozen food, I saw a link in this topic, but I can't find it when I need it
nila
Ferro, Congratulations! A very valuable and useful purchase! Let it please!
Freezing and storing food in the freezer
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=6043.0
Ferro
Great to you, nila, merci! I will go to the mind to learn
Palych
Who put freezers on closed loggias and balconies, how do they tolerate minus (up to -10 ° C max) temperatures in winter and heat and sun in summer?
Igrig
Igor,
With the sun and heat, everything is more or less clear! Simply increased power consumption (provided there is sufficient compressor power).
But about subzero temperatures - look for a freezer that will be able to work in such conditions, this is due, in particular, to the properties of the freon that is used. Some manufacturers explicitly state: the freezer can be used on the balcony! Look for this!
Palych
Igor, well, I googled the question, all household from +16 to 32, industrial type cold. cabinets for drinks, standing on the street near eateries, max. up to 3-4 frost. I am interested in the practical aspect, what the manufacturer recommends is understandable, but maybe someone installed and nothing happens to him). It is clear that both the freon and the main oil in the compressor thickens and the automation turns off below +4, etc. South side, modern double-glazed windows, cladding ... I think it will not go down to +10. With heat it is sadder, but you can insure extra. fan. There are blinds on all windows .... I don't really know ...
Marpl
Here are freezers for unheated rooms, work up to -15 degrees

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hen
I report as a practitioner.Since 2013, 2 Liebherr freezers (TTT) have been standing and operating non-stop on the glazed unheated balcony. I'm from Novosibirsk. In winter, we turn it off when it's below 30 outside. After reading on the forum about freezers, we decided that only Liebherr. The model was chosen according to the size of the place where they were supposed to be placed and according to the width of the balcony door through which they had to be pulled out onto the balcony. I didn't want to expose the window. Yes, it was expensive even for the then still cheap dollar. I have never defrosted it yet - no need. Only one by one I take out the boxes and mine.
Igrig
Igor!
It was not very convenient for me to google in the country from my phone, but thanks Marina, she helped. Yes, I meant just such, for unheated rooms. I just forgot the brand. Maybe besides Liebcher, someone else produces such, his price is biting, but justified!
Palych
Igor, that yes, except for this brand there are no more models.
dana77
Quote: chicken
stand and work non-stop 2 Liebherr freezers
hen, Do you have ordinary freezers or "frost-resistant up to -15 *" under discussion?

For several years we have been tormented by this issue.
We have a balcony - the usual aluminum sliding door. Will it withstand or not?
I think in general to buy a used freezer and run in for a year. If it burns, then at least not throw 40 thousand ...
hen
Freezers are frost-resistant down to -15. But our temperature in winter is mostly below -20. For such conditions, no freezers were found and took the risk. For some reason, I was confident that everything would be fine. The glazing of the balcony has practically no effect on the temperature on the balcony. Well, maybe a couple of degrees warmer. I remind you that I live in Novosibirsk. Any climate is harsher than in Moscow. So don't worry and buy a normal freezer. Everything will be fine.
Svetta
hen, you can turn off the freezer on the balcony in winter, frost is not a problem.
Palych and I (we live nearby) have another problem - we often have + 35-37 in the summer, even now the evening is 19-30 and overboard +30.
hen
In the summer above +30 we have, of course, less often than you have. But it happens. Sometimes for a couple of weeks in a row. This year was not, just a week in separate days - the summer is cold. So the climate is sharply continental. Cold in winter, hot in summer. Winter is long, summer is short.
We do not turn it off for the whole winter. We turn it off when the temperature inside the freezer (-32) is compared with the outside temperature and it starts to work continuously. In summer, when it is above +30, the freezer for some reason does not work continuously. Although, it seems, should be the other way around.
By the way, once in the summer, in the heat, electricity was turned off for a day. Well, everyone thought, tryndets products. However, nothing happened. The temperature in the freezers only dropped to -10. Nothing even thawed.
Igrig
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We turn it off when the temperature inside the freezer (-32) is compared with the outside temperature and it starts to work continuously. In summer, when it is above +30, the freezer for some reason does not work continuously. Although, it seems, it should be the other way around
This does not fit in my head. As for the "opposite" - I absolutely agree!
Olga **
Thanks for the topic, I read it carefully.
My introductions are as follows: there is a refrigerator with a large freezer and there is a vertical chamber with drawers. And now it's not enough for me. (I understand myself, it's funny).
There is an opportunity to buy cheap and very good cut pork in the summer. And then an idea entered my head and it does not come out - to buy a chest for meat.
At the same time, the space is catastrophically small, that is, I can only put this chest on a glazed loggia (ordinary, without insulation), while the loggia and the door to it are not wide. That is, only a narrow model suits me. I figured it out in place - I would fit up to 200 liters.
Liebcher, dear very much, can you advise something budgetary? In case of success, the volumes already available will definitely be enough for all our other reserves. I would have had 100 liters, maybe it would be enough, but I always buy all such equipment with a margin and in a big way.
lira3003
Quote: Olga **
I always buy with a margin and in a big way
And rightly so! I'm afraid a little later and 200 liters will not be enough
For girls, and not Liebhers work. It seems that Ira has Kara Biryus, and she is happy with it. Olga, take as large as possible, it will come in handy.
We are already thinking about the third
Three drawers under the refrigerator, a freestanding freezer with 7 drawers and a chest for 330, a little bit of space ...
Olga **
lira3003, Rita, there is no place to put it, otherwise I would have taken the biggest one, of course.

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