Basja
Tochechka Sorry, you're out of luck. And we replaced the Gorenie refrigerator with a Liebherr two-compression refrigerator, and precisely because it is assembled in Germany, and the build quality in Germany is very different from the assembly anywhere in another country, and I took the freezer of the same company and also German assembly, and PMM too German assembly and have no regrets. Everything works great. A little digression. But the Volkswagen car had to take our Russian assembly ..... what can I say .... Draw a conclusion.
Tochechka
Basja, did the right thing that took with 2 compressors. Let it work and make it happy And we somehow did not work out from the very beginning. At first, when the refrigerator was brought to us, it did not make breaks in work, we called the store and we replaced it as an illiquid product with another. As it turned out, there was no temperature sensor ... and this is a German assembly. Well, the other behaved well only within the allotted warranty period. Maybe they had some lame party there. So anything can happen.
Tatiana S.
Well, I made my choice in favor of Bosch with two compressors. I read the reviews on various forums - everyone who bought is happy. In general, I ordered it and I'm waiting, they promised to deliver it by the New Year.
wave
Hello, help with the choice, samsung, what can you say?
marinel
wave, I'm certainly a bit late with my review. I have a Samsung RL-44 ECTB. Bought a year ago. I like everything about it: glass shelves, a large volume, a spacious freezer, there are no prints on the case, there was no smell of plastic, like in other refrigerators. At first I was freaking out about the noise, it seemed to me that modern refrigerators should be silent, now I'm used to it. Although many users write that they work silently, there is a smell of plastic.
Tanyusha
I also decided to change the refrigerator in the kitchen and bought Siemens on January 3.
Irina F
Girls, and I have a healthy Liebherr refrigerator, I don’t know which number, but it’s such a wide one, with two biofresh cameras, they bought about 6 years ago. Now we have moved to a new house, and so it does not suit us in the kitchen for the interior (metallic, be it not okay). I want to send him to the utility block and am looking for a replacement. I saw the Naeyer refrigerator in the store (I don't know if I made the name correctly). It is written - Italy, but the seller said that in general this company is Chinese, it is just that the beige refrigerator is collected in Italy (very strange)
In this regard, the question is: girls, maybe someone has heard something about the Hayers enti? And it will be very dumb to change Liebherr for no one knows what? It's just that I was very happy with his color - such a creamy and matte, and separately opening freezers. And then Liebherr and I have suffered in terms of appearance - children a lot, everyone blurt out him constantly, so all the time there are fingerprints on him)))
Tanyusha
The Siemens KG 36 EX 45 refrigerator, the most common, I liked the fact that it does not smell of plastic and you can set the temperature in the refrigerator and freezer separately from +2 to +8, and from -16 to -32, not noisy, the doors are outweighed, the shelves are glass , fruit bowl with dividers. It was just necessary to change the old Stinol which is 17 years old.
Tanyusha
Irina F cannot say about the refrigerator, but I have a Haier air conditioner and I'm happy with it. Irina besides Haier look at Sharpe, Toshibo, Hitachi.
marinel
Irina F, my friends have a beige HAIER refrigerator, he is 5-6 years old. There are no bells and whistles, except for the shelf for bottles, it does not work fine.
Irina F
Girls, thanks for the answers! It is a pity that the Liebcher do not do in beige. And then about Hayer, doubts gnaw at me: yes: I will think more. Oh, these pangs of choice
Here my husband says that in general one refrigerator is not enough for us, so we need to buy two of these Hayers and put them next to it.And I think that in my opinion, it’s better to buy a side-by-side (I don’t know if I wrote it correctly)
Tanyusha
Irina, once I also wanted Side-by-side, but when I went to choose, I realized it was better to buy a wide place in it, it seems to me more.
Irina F
Thank you Tanyush! I myself do not know what I want. Now I have Liebherr 80cm wide and 2m high. So I can't put food on the top shelf normally.That's why I think we can lower some thread and more modestly, and use Liebherr if necessary and put it, well, for example, in a bathhouse.Let it stand there and cool any wine-beer for all sorts of gatherings
Hormistr
We have a LG GA-B489BVSP refrigerator, we bought it a year ago, there are no complaints, comfortable, large, there is a freshness zone and a zone for greenery. But ihmo for me personally is the most important thing "ice harvester", pour water into the container, close the freezer door and after an hour ice cubes. ...
There is only one compressor, and it is true that many manufacturers refuse from 2 compressors, so the reliability is less, although logically it should be the other way around. And now they put a compressor and separate controls for the freezer and refrigerator. We can set the mode "Vacation" the refrigerator is not working, and the freezer is working normally.
Dot
Manufacturers who produce refrigerators operating on isobutane are switching to one compressor. Such refrigerators consume less electricity. They freeze faster and harder. But they are "disposable".
lega
Quote: Dot

Manufacturers who produce refrigerators operating on isobutane are switching to one compressor. Such refrigerators consume less electricity. They freeze faster and harder. But they are "disposable".

"Disposable" means not repairable? that is ... if it breaks down after the warranty period, then immediately to the scrap?
Tanyusha
Dot, what does disposable mean and what does it mean reusable? I had a ZIL refrigerator with one compressor, it worked for 40 years, I replaced it only because I needed a large refrigerator, just as my second refrigerator Stinol worked for 20 years, replaced it with a larger size.
sazalexter
Now most refrigerators are not repairable; they have evaporators, a filter and part of the unit in the foamed area
lega
Quote: sazalexter

Now most refrigerators are not repairable; they have evaporators, a filter and part of the unit in the foamed area

Sash, how long have they been like that? I had a compressor changed on Boch in 98 years ... and now they do it so that nothing can be changed?
sazalexter
Quote: lga

Sash, how long have they been like this? I had a compressor changed on Boch in 98 years ... and now they do it so that nothing can be changed?
Galina, there is no recent process this gradual and I will not say specifically the date, somewhere since 2000, the compressor can now be changed
Kamusik
Recently I ran into a problem - the motor burned out in the freezer. True, I myself am to blame, I did not close the freezer and he beat the day in this state. So, here, a master friend came and also told me that now all imported refrigerators are sharpened for 6-7 years, that is, as Sasha said, they are foamed and it is not possible to change the motor! They explain that the market is oversaturated, it is necessary to increase the buyability ... And, if you take it, then only the 2-engine engine is easier there. I am not saying anything, I just told, as the master said.
Dot
Disposable - this means that if there is a leak of isobutane, then repairing the refrigerator in your home is impossible
Creamy
Dot, thanks for the information about disposable refrigerators. For me, this is a discovery and a shock at the same time. If all manufacturers of household appliances in our country will produce disposable ones, then we will soon make the whole planet a mega-wash ... Somehow it became sad.
Svetlana201
Girls, and a year ago I bought myself a Liebherr CBNPes 3976 refrigerator with a special ice maker. I was looking for (I poured water into a container and received cubes in freezers, a lot, a lot). I am very satisfied and the 3-liter balloon becomes if the shelf is folded (there is a special.foldable - very convenient) and beautiful and the door is covered with some kind of means so that the fingers do not stay on it. In general, I love him very much and I hope he will serve me for a long time (until I get bored)
francevna
Two years ago I bought a new Panasonic NR-B651BR refrigerator. ivory. Huge, roomy. Height 185cm, specially chose such that she could get it from the top shelf. Inside the shelves can be swapped so that even 3 liters. the can will become, but I bought 2x and 1.5 liters of glass. banks, so much more can be placed on the shelves.
The freezer is located at the bottom, there is a small compartment for ice (the temperature is switched separately to ice), three drawers. I liked that these are not open shelves, but drawers. At the top is a huge box that can fit a goose or a turkey.
I'm happy with the work of the refrigerator, BUT! When it's hot, and in summer it's very hot, the refrigerator still raises the temperature, because its walls are heating up. We installed a split, now it is not felt anymore, and our kitchen-dining room is large - 24 sq. m. But if the kitchen is small, then such a refrigerator is not worth buying.
Crochet
My friends and refrigerators Neff who has a thread?

To my shame, I had never heard of this manufacturer before ...

And then, I caught the eye of the refrigerator K5880X4RU, sort of like wow:

Refrigerator selection

Separate electronic regulation and temperature control
Super cool mode with automatic shutdown
Super freeze mode with automatic freezing
Acoustic alarm for fridge and freezer compartment
Multi-Airflow-System
3 shelves made of impact-resistant glass, 2 of which are height adjustable
Special grid for bottles
LED lightening
3 transparent drawers in the freezer compartment, one of them large
Total volume: 317 l
**** - freezer: 94 l.
Freezing capacity 14 kg / 24 h.
Storage duration in case of power outage: 18 h
Door stop right
Climate class SN-T
Appliance dimensions (HxWxD): 200 x 60 x 65 cm
Connected load: 160 W
null: 220-240
Energy class: A + / Annual consumption: 309 kWh
Annual Energy Consumption: NO_FEATURE


Mark_trim
Neff is part of the Siemens-Bosch Group and is a premium brand. The quality within the concern is (ascending) Bosch-Siemens-Neff. But refrigerators are better than Liebherr. However, with a reservation, only premium class. Even Liebherrs have complaints about the "comfort" series. And neff ordered a dishwasher. They said in the store - the best there is of the class and size that they had. So I think the refrigerator should be good. All the more cool LED backlighting
Mark_trim
Quote: Svetlana201

Girls, and a year ago I bought myself a Liebherr CBNPes 3976 refrigerator with a special ice maker. I was looking for (I poured water into a container and received cubes in freezers, a lot, a lot). I am very satisfied and the 3-liter balloon becomes if the shelf is folded (there is a special folding-very convenient) and beautiful and the door is covered with some means so that the fingers do not stay on it. In general, I love him very much and I hope he will serve me for a long time (until I get bored)

We ordered ourselves with the same coverage and the same plan, only smaller and without an ice maker (181 cm in height) and cheaper, essno. I'm most interested in the biofresh zones. The consultant said that such zones are positioned by almost all manufacturers and call them similar, but actually working, grilling, only at Liebherr. For others, this very zero zone does not constantly maintain this same zero. Like a feeling from this miracle zone. Really longer to store vegetables and fruits in one of the zones and meat and fish in another, and is it really not just longer, but also of better quality?
fugaska
I started choosing a refrigerator - I already broke all my eyes !!!
my husband doesn’t care, only with the budget is not much at odds with. I want to keep within 800 bucks, but ...
There are a lot of manufacturers and collectors, there are even more reviews, and in the characteristics I'm generally like a pig in oranges ...
I want a two-meter one (although we have a family of little weeds, 1.60 in a jump ...but I want at least the refrigerator to be bigger), the lower freezer (the idiot's dream is to freeze fruits / vegetables / herbs). width and depth are limited by the "hole" for the refrigerator 86cm and 72cm, respectively.
So...
I want to know frost EVERYWHERE, but I read about the noise and the fact that the freezer dries food a lot. can I choose a drip freezer? but I buy a refrigerator "for centuries", I want to keep up with the times, at least at the stage of purchase ...
I don't understand the difference between one and two compressors, nor the difference between one refrigeration circuit and two
mysterious letters of the climatic class generally put me into a stupor - I read somewhere that the compressor turns on a certain number of times a day, depending on this mysterious class ...
let alone the transportation of refrigerators in a horizontal arrangement, and about what this leads to, it is better to keep silent - start at night!
voltage surge protection - critical? maybe it's already everywhere, they just don't specify it in the characteristics?
but this miracle zone biofresh - with what is this miracle eaten? Is it important to me?

picked out models (already crossed out about fifty probably ...)
Samsung RL50RECSW
Whirlpool WBC 4046 A + NFCX
Whirlpool WBV 3699 NFCIX
LG GW B489BECW
I got into the "smart" forums, read a lot, now I feel that refrigerators will come to me in my sleep, and all that nonsense that I read ...

in general, I am falling at the feet of connoisseurs of household appliances (somewhere there was a crawling smiley face), help with the choice

PySy: I have not yet felt or smelled them ... I write down the models in a booklet and go on a weekend hike
sazalexter
fugaska By manufacturers AEG-Electrolux, Bosch, Panasonic, Sharp. No noufrost, preferably. Two compressors, definitely. Fresh zone, desirable. Class not lower than A + The assembly is not Russia or China. The rest of the evil one
Vanya28
Quote: fugaska

I started choosing a refrigerator - I already broke all my eyes !!! ...

Budget and quiet, 40 dB, single compressor, with No Frost - automatic defrosting, 201 cm, with shutdown of the refrigerating chamber, without freshness zone - Liebherr CN 4013 (CN 40130) - 33500 rubles
Refrigerator (L): 369
Refrigerating chamber (l): 280
Freezer (L): 89
The freshness zone is very inexpensive to organize independently by storing food in a container with an adjustable slot in the lid.

As soon as the refrigerator is quiet, the manufacturer immediately indicates this value in the passport.
Quiet refrigerators from 42 to 36 dB, the lower the value, the quieter.
Tanyusha
fugaska, I don’t hear my refrigerator with know frost (it can of course become deaf), it stands in my 10-meter hall, where the doors of the rooms go out (at night the bedroom door is always open, since the dogs go back and forth). I would go for Panasonic, Sharp or Toshiba.
Vitalinka
I also look at the refrigerators. I really liked the Sharp SJ-PT690RBE. Maybe someone has one, I would like to hear a review, is it worth it or not to buy it.
Vanya28
Quote: Vitalinka

I also look at the refrigerators. I really liked the Sharp SJ-PT690RBE. Maybe someone has one, I would like to hear a review, whether or not to buy it.

Yes, everything is always in order with this manufacturer and always quiet.
If you are satisfied with the width and depth, then there is no need to doubt.
PapAnin
Quote: fugaska

I started choosing a refrigerator - I already broke all my eyes !!!

The best option is cold. drip chamber, no frost freezer.
The freezer dries food, but if you pack it well, then everything is fine.
Two compressors are not needed, two circuits - in this case, you can turn off the chambers separately.

I have Liebherr, I don't remember which one, like 4013. I'm happy! Very comfortable. The handles are cool, easy to open.
Only he is a bastard sings my songs, groans, sobs ... The compressor is quietly working, but these sounds ..
I butted with the store for a long time, then with the SC. The master came, listened, says this is the norm, the refrigerant is leaking.
Maybe it will pass, maybe it will. I can't hear it anymore. Maybe he's used to it, or maybe he stopped talking. We must watch.
But the refrigerator itself is good. The bottle holder is a very handy and foldable shelf.
By the way, Miele refrigerators are Liebherr.

Samsung is said to have very thin metal, easy to wrinkle.

According to your parameters:
we have a family of little weeds, 1.60 in a jump ... the width and depth are limited by the "hole" under the refrigerator 86cm and 72cm, respectively.

Sharp would fit perfectly, wide, with a small growth, its volume is greater than that of two-meter ones. I wanted this and almost ordered it, but at the last moment it turned out that it simply would not get through the door! Pay attention to all parameters.
Antonovka
And I chose this one - Sharp SJ-692NBE
True, confuses class B
Kalyusya
And I will listen. And then I choose the third year, my eyes are already blurred.
I also lean towards wide refrigerators.
Vanya28
Quote: Kalyusya

And I will listen. And then I choose the third year, my eyes are already blurred.
I also lean towards wide refrigerators.

There is another option to put two Liebherr CN 4013 side by side, with the door hanging on one side, it will turn out to be 740 liters and only for 67,000 rubles.
Such a Side by Side refrigerator of a normal class costs at least 50, or even 80,000 thousand more.
And by adding another 10,000 rubles and replacing one 4013 with 4023, you will also get an ice maker in the kit.
Creamy
Vanya28, and you know that you are a very smart girl? I say this for the whole forum! Well done! Brilliant idea with two refrigerators! I take off my hat in admiration
Kalyusya
Quote: Vanya28

There is another option to put two Liebherr CN 4013 side by side, with the door hanging on one side, it will turn out to be 740 liters and only for 67,000 rubles.
Such a Side by Side refrigerator of a normal class costs at least 50, or even 80,000 thousand more.
And by adding another 10,000 rubles and replacing one 4013 with 4023, you will also get an ice maker in the kit.

Nah ... I can't accept such a thing ... 1m20cm is too much for me.

It's a good idea. You can have a fridge + freezer.
Admin
Quote: sazalexter

And when Liebherr breaks down, you can safely throw him out, because there is no adequate service in Russia Just don't say that they don't break!

I have a "native" three-door Liebherr, for the sixth year!
Serves properly.

In Moscow there is a service department A-Iceberg, it works with any technique, even with "thrown" by manufacturers, or produced a long time ago, with a trip to the Moscow region, used their services several times.
Admin
Quote: Kalyusya


But I don’t need that. I won't eat that much.

It's not about how much you eat, but how much you save correctly, and when it comes in handy, for example, vegetables, fruits for the winter, and this is always important and necessary for his dear and beloved organism, he simply adores vitamins in winter
Kalyusya
Quote: Admin

It's not about how much you eat, but how much you save correctly, and when it comes in handy, for example, vegetables, fruits for the winter, and this is always important and necessary for his dear and beloved organism, he simply adores vitamins in winter

Yeah, he will eat, but who will give him ...
I mean, you can't push more than 80cm.
As for the refrigerator, I ...
Creamy
I absolutely agree with Roma. I have a huge freezer. How great it is! It's just a battery of time. Yes, yes, I didn't make a reservation. I don’t have to run to the store for a trifle. And cooking is a pleasure. My freezer has everything, or almost everything. Sea and river fish, squid, shrimps, all kinds of meat, chicken, already cut fillets in breadcrumbs, self-made dumplings and dumplings, homemade pancakes rolled in rolls, puff pastry packaging, frozen chopped bell peppers, whole frozen dulka tomatoes and ladies' fingers, broccoli , cauliflower, fresh peas, beans, all kinds of mushrooms, parsley. dill. spinach, cherry. plum, strawberry, blueberry, cranberry, frozen pumpkin, grated and packaged in sachets, cutlets, meatballs and meatballs, homemade sausages. I go to the store every 4-5 days, for cottage cheese and milk. I bake the bread myself. A large freezer is great!
Crochet
Quote: Admin

I have a "native" three-door Liebherr, for the sixth year!
Romchka, and what kind of model ?! Well there are letters / tsiferki what?

And then I'm still hunting for LG, but we can’t get it at all ...

Upon arrival, it is advisable to immediately buy a refrigerator, but I didn't really choose ...
PapAnin
Quote: Krosh

And then I'm still hunting for LG, but we can’t get it at all ...

At first I also thought to take LG, there was one color there, which, well, was very suitable for my kitchen,
but then I took Liebherr, I do not regret it at all, although he turned out to be a singer.
They are produced in Austria, Bulgaria and Germany. Be careful.
If I remember correctly, Austrian-made wide refrigerators.
Mams
Quote: PapAnin

At first I also thought to take LG, there was one color there, which, well, was very suitable for my kitchen,
but then I took Liebherr, I do not regret it at all, although he turned out to be a singer.
They are produced in Austria, Bulgaria and Germany. Be careful.
If I remember correctly, Austrian-made wide refrigerators.

Not really. The simplest models are produced in Bulgaria. And the top ones are in Austria and Germany. Side by Side is produced in Germany.

Liebcher's wide ones are different. Unlike other manufacturers, they usually have two separate cabinets, which are mounted (not difficult, by the way) - in one large wide one. As a rule, one cabinet is a freezer. Although, there are options, for example - a freezer and a wine cabinet (wine top, freezer bottom). Or a freezer and a separate bio-fresh chamber. The second half is also different. Simple fridge, biofresh fridge, etc., etc. 🔗 - one of the brand stores, where you can always look at them. Buy - where it is more convenient, the price for these refrigerators does not vary much.
PapAnin
You are right, I mean from the Austrian ones there were only wide ones, and if you don't need a wide one, you have to look for Germany.
Margit
I had an LG refrigerator, it was repaired six times. The last time the master said that the compressor needs to be changed, we decided to buy a new refrigerator. I chose for a long time, I wanted as wide as the old LG, but my daughter persuaded me to use Samsung RL-52 TEBSL, made in Korea. It's cold, I checked it with a thermometer. Maintains the set temperature, quiet, A +. Freezer illumination, audible door open alarm. I chose it according to its capacity, and so that the freezer was smaller, since there is a freestanding freezer. The same master warned that Liebherr, even of the German assembly, has a lot of complaints, often caused by the master.
Mams
Quote: sazalexter

And when Liebherr breaks down, you can safely throw him out, because there is no adequate service in Russia Just don't say that they don't break!

Oh, how right you are, my dear. Although, it happens that it is repaired.

As they wrote on an interesting forum, any refrigerators break. And Liebher, and Atlanta, and Samsung, and LV, etc., etc. Now any do not live longer than 10 years. Alas, like all other household appliances.

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