Crown
Quote: Asёka
I chose a 38 liter model,
What number? What have you already prepared?
I watched 1538 lux and 1838, the only difference is in one program, both with convection, timer for 120 minutes, there is yogurt fermentation (which I need), baking sheets of the same size and, if I understood correctly, you can buy a spare one. I can not decide.
Overall dimensions - 504x350x410 mm
Internal dimensions of the chamber - 350х360х290 mm
Baking sheet dimensions - 345х300х30 mm
Chamber volume - 38 l

Quote: CroNa
I watched 1538 lux and 1838
Another model like this: GEMLUX GL-OR-1632, I will choose between them, if I do not meet anything more suitable.

Overall dimensions - 464х370х345 mm
Internal chamber dimensions - 350x305x275 mm
Baking sheet dimensions - 348x270x22 mm
Chamber volume - 32 l





38L models have a double-glazed door, at first glance this is an advantage, but in life is there a big difference, is the GL-OR-1632 door very hot?




I figured out one more nuance (at the suite):
But the fermentation mode (35 ° C and 30 minutes by default) will not allow the user to go beyond the range of 30-45 ° C. But the available time range will be from 5 to 720 minutes.
Defrosting mode (42-45 ° C and 2 hours by default) will allow you to increase the time to 12 hours (the display will show hours instead of minutes).
The fermentation mode duplicates defrosting, but in a wider temperature range, for the fermentation of the leavening dough is the right thing.




Oops, they have different external dimensions:
GEMLUX GL-OR-1838 Overall dimensions - 502х335х454 mm
GEMLUX GL-OR-1538LUX Overall dimensions - 504х350х410 mm
A spare protrusion for Lux does not fit, although their internal dimensions are indicated the same as the sizes of baking sheets. Here is an ambush!
Swan-Seagull
Quote: CroNa
a door with double glass, at first glance this is an advantage
but at second glance it is a minus. When I washed the glass, a drop got between the glasses, a small drip formed on the inner surface. How to remove it - I don't know, to disassemble and unwind it is scary. Nobody notices this drip, but it pisses me off.
My favorite buns with Tang Zhong, this time I made a filling of walnuts with sugar
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Crown
Swan-Seagull, so it is still double? And then in some descriptions they write that it is single.
What model do you have?
The pastry is super!
Swan-Seagull
I have a Gemluxe 2045LUX.
Anastasia
I unwound the glass, cleaned it and put it back together. All is well, without consequences. I think that double glass is, in principle, a blessing.)))




Quote: Asёka

Girls, such a question. Is the problem of sagging or even failure of the grate under the weight of a heavy shape / content still relevant? I met a lot of such reviews for completely different stoves. Does it happen to us? ?? And then yesterday I was trembling over the first heavy load (in French in a glass form, weighty ...) Everything went well, but I did not leave the kitchen just
I have a very heavy shape of over 2 kg, it weighs itself and if you load meat into it, for example, I don't put it on the wire rack - it falls through. If not immediately, then during the cooking process. I put it on a baking sheet.
Asёka
Quote: CroNa
What number? What have you already prepared?
1538lux, cooked meat in French, baked potatoes, chicken, cottage cheese casserole, muffins ... Maybe something else? Toast every morning on toast mode (I never expected such a pleasant thing). While I play with might and main, while everyone is happy. (Although I adjust, I add time / pace, etc.)
I really wanted double glass, because while I was choosing, there were many complaints and warnings from owners of different brands of ovens with single glasses. ... And I have fidget children, the less heated, the better.





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Experienced users) throw in a cookie recipe, preferably not too dry)) and how much to put cookies in it?
Swan-Seagull
Quote: Anastasia
I unwound the glass, cleaned it and put it back together. All is well, without consequences.
Thank you for sharing your experience! We must tune in to the positive and also open the door!
Sapphire
Quote: CroNa
Oops, they have different external dimensions: GEMLUX GL-OR-1838 Overall dimensions - 502х335х454 mm GEMLUX GL-OR-1538LUX Overall dimensions - 504х350х410 mm The spare key for Lux does not fit, although the internal dimensions are the same as the dimensions of baking sheets. Here is an ambush!
CrownWhich baking sheet is not suitable? I have a suite, all fit. The sizes of the stoves are the same, only the buttons and program names are different.





Swan-Seagull, Irina, how's your cartoon gem-luxe, didn't you disappoint? I want something new while I choose.
The rolls are beautiful.
Swan-Seagull
Quote: Sapphire
How is your cartoon gemlux, did you disappoint?
Irish, cartoon och. like. I answered in PM in more detail.
Crown
Quote: Sapphire
KroNa, which baking sheet is not suitable?
In the description for the baking sheet, which is sold separately, only two other 38 models are indicated, and there are some discrepancies in the dimensions, so I thought that this was not my happiness.

Quote: Sapphire
I have a suite, all fit.
Fine! Another plus for Lux.
Is this baking sheet no different from the one that comes with the oven? Is it heavy enamelled or thin light luminous?
Simultaneously in two, on different levels, don't you cook?

Another question, from the category of "stupid", - the top of the stoves is very hot, crackers, by chance, no one tried to dry / fry at the top while the bread is baked inside or a chicken is sunning (an economizer option)?
Rituslya
Swan-Seagull, Ira, the pies are amazing! Mmmm !!!
Just super great!

And I have! And I also have a Gemlux multivarik Gemlux 27
I can't copy anything.
So here's the topic
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in..._smf&topic=221948.380


Swan-Seagull
Rituslya, Ritushka, thanks for the praises! I'm lazy to take pictures.
Congratulations on your new Gemluxie-honey!

And I turned out to be a permanent person, I can't change my manyune-Polechka - that's all that suits me in her! And they stand side by side, my favorites - a big Gemlux and a manunya, constantly at work. Uh, how we were thrown away from the topic! Allusya will scold us.

Sapphire
Quote: CroNa
Fine! Another plus for Lux. Is this baking sheet no different from the one that comes with the oven? Is it heavy enamelled or thin light luminous? Simultaneously in two, on different levels, don't you cook?
Bought exactly the same as in the stove was dear. I don't know what they are made of, the lungs do not differ from each other.
Another bought an aluminum one for the whole stove and a tall one. Fits into grooves.
The heat on top of mine was strong, I did not fry crackers there. At my top is a stove-sized tabletop on wooden legs. The air circulates around, even it becomes warm, but this is when the oven works for a long time.
Rituslya
I cooked a pork neck yesterday in a baking bag. First, it baked for 20 minutes at a temperature of 200, then for 30 minutes at a temperature of 190 and 15 minutes with a cut bag at 180.
Deliciously unrealistic. Delicious! For the night in foil and in the refrigerator.
Wonderful meat for sandwiches.
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Ljna
I took the stove from the repair, I'll bake something tomorrow

bad soldering, so the convection light turned off, changed the relay, the sensor worked and turned off the lower ten completely at 0. I hope after the repair it will please me for a long time)

Masha Ivanova
Ljna, Zhenya! That's lovely! Congratulations on your recovery with the stove! Now cook twice as much!
celfh
Quote: Rituslya
I got a pork neck yesterday in a baking bag
Rita, did you pickle the neck beforehand?
Rituslya
Tanya, yes, marinated. But what kind of marinade do I have ?! This is the cheapest mustard + salt and pepper. I coat and leave in a baking bag for a day, but in fact it turns out much longer.
Crown
Quote: Swan-Seagull
maksin67, Oksana, look at this
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...om_smf&topic=522633.0
The stove, however, Kitfort, is 25 liters, but also with a spit, a pallet and open heating elements.Decent grilled chicken experience!
I reviewed several recipes for grilled chicken, this one I liked the most, the chicken "rides on a carousel" over a tray of liquid with lemon and spices - count with the steam, it won't dry out.
Only I would, in the end, take it out, smear it with sweet mustard or mayonnaise with honey and again under the grill, for frying until crisp, only without water and steam.
I watched on TV, as the Chinese bring their famous ducks to their trademark bronze crust.
Rituslya
Galina, buy a stove and do not hesitate.
You have been doubting for so long, checking all the pros and cons that Gemlux will definitely suit you.

I rarely bake chicken in the oven just because it’s too much area to wash, all the fat flies in different directions.
Crown
Quote: Rituslya
Galina, buy a stove and do not hesitate
No, I can't do that. I need to study everything slowly and in detail, take into account all the pros and cons, wonder, think, and only then ...




Quote: VladimirK
GEMLUX GL-OR-1838, 1845, 2265 differ from each other only in size (volume). GEMLUX Gl-OR-1538LUX, 2045LUX, 2265LUX also only in volume. But the trinity differs from the trinity in functionality. Top + bottom heating are the same. The upper heating for LUX is 60 degrees higher, for 18xx it is only 120 degrees maximum. The lower heating is 30 degrees higher for 18xx and 200 degrees for LUX. Fermentation and defrosting parameters are the same except for the timer: LUX has 12 hours, 18xx has 120 minutes and 12 hours, respectively. The rest of the functions are mediocre because they fit into the first. These are instructions given, there may be errors. More profitable than the LUX model.
I want to clarify on the allocated, really the suites have such restrictions on T (180 top and 200 bottom)? In real life, not according to instructions. Of course, I'm more interested in the 38-liter suite, I met here in the subject a review that the 45th heats up hotter than the 38th, but that was "according to the sensations", and not by the thermometer.
Maximum T may not be needed so often, but good pizza still needs good heat.
Owners of 38 suites (and others), how long does it take you to bake pizza?
tagy
Hello everybody! For six months I have been reading the topic and choosing. Eighth of March is on the nose, it's time to decide. Today I ordered GL-OR-2045LUX for ozone. I was glad that they took into account the "Thank you" from the Savings Bank and the stove cost me 6700 rubles, otherwise I did not know where to put these "thanks". I'll get it on Wednesday. Worried. If only it worked without surprises. I take it to the dacha, I bake it often. Take in your ranks. Thank you all for your feedback and advice, you helped me decide.
I would be grateful if you tell me where to buy an additional baking sheet.
Sapphire
Quote: CroNa
Owners of 38 suites (and others), how long does it take you to bake pizza?
Galina, I did not like this program, it bakes for a long time, I bake pizza in a princess.





tagy, Tatyana, congratulations on purchasing the stove.



There are additional baking sheets in the Eldorado for tesky discounts.
Quote: Viola
Perhaps someone will come in handy. Today I bought a discounted Teskomovsky baking sheet, which came up to my Gemlux 1845 stove. The size is 41x27 cm. In fact, 41.5 cm. It keeps well in the grooves without a grid.
tagy
Sapphire, Thank you. I'll keep it in mind. I understand that relatives are not allowed to visit this stove.
Ljna
Girls, today tested after repair
Cupcakes
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Rituslya
Ljna, Zhenya, well, actually !!!
For me, the repair was only beneficial!
Above all praise!
Sapphire
Quote: tagy

Sapphire, Thank you. I'll keep it in mind. I understand that relatives are not allowed to visit this stove.
tagy, here are native https: /// products / protiven-gemlux-gl-bt-45
eurolux store





Ljna, beautiful cupcakes and flat hats
Ljna
Girls, Thank you! We still need to make a meringue roll
Ivanovna5
tagy, Tatyana, there are native trays in Eurolux: 🔗./products/protiven-gemlux-gl-bt-45
The store is reliable, I bought from them twice, they work quickly.
Swan-Seagull
tagy, Tanya, Congratulations! I have such a stove, and - yes, I bought extra. baking sheet in Eurolux. Just check it upon receipt, because the first time the baking sheet came with a "bump" on the working surface, I refused and ordered a second time. Two trays are very convenient!
tagy
It's finished! I took my GL-OR-2045LUX today. The box was damaged on one side.But we took out the stove and found no damage to the case itself. Plugged in, the indicators lit up. At home for 20 minutes at 230gr. worked. Has raised a little.
She baked hearth bread. All right. 10 min. at 230, 10min. at 200 and 20 min. at 190. I haven't cut it yet. Cools down.
I have a question about steam at the beginning of bread baking. I put an old baking dish in an ordinary oven at the bottom and there with a preheated oven to 230g. pour water or ice. And then what to do? You can't put anything on the bottom heating elements and you won't splash water. If only above oppose with bread to understand? And under it another with water? Who has experience?
Crown
Rituslya, after all, you had Shteba before, I read that it has a non-stick coating inside and good thermal insulation, the glass on the door hardly heats up. Do not remember the details, is the coating of that Shteba and the current Gemlux very different in terms of the ability to get dirty / clean, and is there a noticeable difference in the heating of the doors?
Rituslya
Checkmark, but I don't really remember, to be honest. But Shteba's coverage was visually better.
Only I do not recommend it for purchase, it is not as mobile as Gemlux.
Plus now it mows in full.
Crown
Yes, I am confused by the strong external heating of the Gemluxes, I would like a stove with good thermal insulation.
I also read about one Kitforth model that it does not get so hot, and the glass is generally almost cold, like that of "adult" stoves, and the coating inside is of higher quality. I am delving into the general-oven topic, looking for someone who has such.
Marysya27
tagy, Tatiana, congratulations on the new thing Let it only make you happy We are waiting for the results of the first tests
Quote: tagy
And then what to do?
I put a saucer of water under the lower heating elements and / or spray it with a spray bottle; or pour a little into a baking sheet (I have it with indentations along the edge). If the bread is in the form, then you can splash it evenly heated.
My assistant worked so hard


Buns:
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On prescription:


According to the same recipe, with sourdough:

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Lean buns:
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On prescription:
Lean dough in Panasinic bread maker (universal)
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...om_smf&topic=417599.0
Sourdough cakes:
Broth sourdough for Asian tortillas
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...om_smf&topic=414775.0
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And according to the recipe:
Asian flatbreads in sourdough with meat broth, onion and katyk
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...om_smf&topic=419244.0
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Smile
Quote: tagy
You can't put anything on the bottom heating elements and you won't splash water. If only above oppose with bread to understand?
Tatyana, I put my own baking sheet with boiling water at the very bottom, and put the bread, in the form, on the wire rack, a little higher. I have 2265 and this question also arose. I came to the conclusion that one more grille is needed, but they are not on sale, I was already looking for it ... perhaps, to do it to order ...
Crown
Marysya27, thanks for the beauty!
Inspire us to culinary feats.

I found an interesting know-how in the general spiritual topic, it can be applied in Gemluxes and solve the problem of a flimsy grate by placing a stand for heavy pots, pots and jars instead of it directly on the "floor" of the stove:
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Photo AnastasiaK
Such round stands are sold in the fixprice for three kopecks, the legs are 4.2 cm high.

Quote: CroNa
solve the problem of a flimsy grid,
:
Quote: Swan-Seagull
One negative point - in the morning I decided to boil milk for yogurt in the oven: enamel. saucepan + 3 liter can of milk - the grate withstood, but caved in.
Marysya27
Crown, Galina
I also forgot. When I baked cakes, I recorded a temperature record. With top / bottom at 230 ° + convection - 265 °


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Marysya27
Greetings
Again Asian cakes, only in the form of ciabattok:
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On prescription:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...om_smf&topic=419244.0
And the casserole:
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On prescription:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...com_smf&topic=23683.0
I put pies with cabbage:
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Prescription dough:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...om_smf&topic=533534.0
* Only on Levito madre:
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tagy
Marysya27, wonderful pastries!
I run my stove at home, and then I'll take it to the dacha. I have 2 weeks for this.
I baked hearth bread, pizza, oatmeal cookies 2 times.
Satisfied with the pastries. The temperature was checked with a probe. Corresponds to the exhibited. Only with the cookies I changed the temperature. Based on the recipe for the dough, it turned out 3 times. The first one was baked at 180g. 18 minutes top-bottom at the middle level and my bottom turned out to be very fried. I had to reduce the bottom to 150g for the next batch of cookies. When I baked bread and pizza, the heating of the bottom did not change. There are pies in the plans and the question is, at what level do you bake, at what temperature and do you reduce the temperature of one of the ten and do you turn on convection?
But the fact that you can change the temperature of the shades separately is a huge advantage of this stove. So far, I am very pleased with this purchase.
Marysya27
tagy, Tatyanaas he says Ritunya, "how good it is when everything is good", and the stove pleases
Quote: tagy
at what level do you bake,
I have a 65L stove. I bake most often on the upper level. I set the heating elements the same. If the dough is not very tasty -200 ° -220 ° (or 200 ° with convention). Buttery -180 ° -200 ° without convection.
At the very beginning, it baked at an average level at 180 ° for both heating elements. Moved to the upper level, because sometimes there is a need to make a small "sharing" on the grate on the lower level.
And we are on "you"
tagy
Marysya27, of course on "you"! Thank you for the valuable information, otherwise you will get there ... But if you add something from below, then the bottom of the top will not suffer? Will it bake until golden brown or will it not be affected by convection?
Marysya27
My top of the bottom and the bottom of the top does not suffer (or "suffering" is within the permissible range), provided that the "attachment" in size is within +/-half grill surfaces; and convection incl. Sometimes I can remove the upper baking sheet with the finished baking, and leave the lower floor for a little more (~ 5 ').
* In my stove, the distance between the heating elements is 4-5 cm larger than that of the 45L model. Perhaps some nuances still need to be taken into account For example:
Quote: tagy
I had to reduce the bottom to 150g for the next batch of cookies.
Only with a smaller gap: initially putting the bottom on heating not 150 °, but 160-170 °, at the top - 180 °.
Most likely, you will have to "play around" a little to find the right mode.
Marysya27
Hello everyone
Asian ciabattok cakes:
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And the additive:
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More hot:
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On prescription:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...om_smf&topic=419244.0
Marysya27
Hello everyone
Except for ciabattok from Helen, sourdough from Yuriak:
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And a cupcake with apples
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Prescription dough Tatyana1103 :
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...om_smf&topic=533534.0
I baked mackerel according to the recipe:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...109.0
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elesha
Hello! Yesterday I took the Gemlux GL-OR-1845 oven. I have never used such stoves before - only gas. Actually, the reason for buying this oven is that my current gas oven does not bake from the word "completely" (in the old (also gas) baked pies, and biscuits, and rolls, and bread, and pizza, but in this one - well, nothing ( ((I'm tired of translating the dough and nerves ... The oven should be tested today or tomorrow, but I don't know which side to approach it ... According to the instructions, I turned it on for a maximum, it worked normally for 15 minutes. Grilled chicken, for example, How to cook in it? You probably need to put the baking sheet on the lower level? And only the top one should be turned on, right? And how much and which T should you put out? The pie at which level is the oven on average with both heating elements? Cooking is big, but here is some kind of stupor, I'm afraid to make a mistake and ruin the dish ... Maybe there are some general principles of cooking in such ovens somewhere? Thank you in advance!
Marysya27
elesha, Elena, welcome and congratulations on the new stove On the first page there are reviews of the owners of 45 models. There is something a little bit from the first impressions. I won't say anything about chicken yet, we need to go over the topic. Someone already cooked for sure. For pies.For orientation, set it to the middle level and 180 ° on both heating elements. If the dough is lean, then you can go to the upper level. And then decide
Let's wait for the hostesses 45 more models.
elesha
Quote: Maryya27
elesha, Elena, welcome and congratulations on the new stove On the first page there are reviews from the owners of 45 models

Thank you! As I understand it, 1838 and 1845 are one and the same, only they differ in volume. I had already cooked the chicken, almost nothing was left of it) First I put the baking sheet, but I was afraid that it would hurt and removed it. She cut off a piece of foil, bent the edges by 1.5-2 cm and got a kind of baking sheet. I put it directly on the lower ten, and cooked only with the upper one at T 180. I cooked for an hour, but it seemed to me that I overexposed it (the chicken was 1.3 kg). I want to try baking a cake tomorrow.
Marysya27
elesha, Elena, with successful tests
Quote: elesha
As I understand it, 1838 and 1845 are one and the same, only they differ in volume.


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Girls, I have Gemlux 2045 LUX. The instruction goes one for her and for 1538 LUX. At one time, I compared 2045 and 1845 on page 160:
They have almost the same modes, only the names have changed. The 2045 oven has a defrosting mode - this is the same yogurt mode as in 1845, only the time range for one is 1-12 hours, for the other 6-12 hours, respectively (I have yogurt ready in 5 hours, but there is a yogurt maker for this). The fermentation mode for 2045 has been increased from 120 to 720 minutes (which is important for yeast-free dough). Toast, chicken - at 2045, grilled - at 1845.
And separate switches and displays - my husband says that this is better than combined, like "it will be enough longer."

on page 165:
A good function - when the backlight and convection buttons are pressed at the same time, it shows the current temperature (I can not check - there is no thermometer yet).
The switches are very convenient! It's good that the modes brought up the display - they are clearly visible, you don't need to look somewhere around the handle.

So the stoves 1838 and 1538 differ in the same way. The rest is all the same - baking sheets, sizes, grills, lighting, convection, spit.
Somehow like this...
And I'm sooo happy with my stove! ..
Quote: Swan-Seagull
the instruction is one for Gemlux 2045 LUX and 1538 LUX, so both have separate switches and displays. I especially like this on the mode switch - everything is clearly visible on the display itself, and not around it. At first I wanted 38 liters, but I bought 45 - and I don't regret it!

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