Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)

I bought 2511, before that there was Redmond, I baked with him for about a year and a half, he broke down, here's a break for about a year and again decided to join the ranks
I forgot everything, of course
the bread is on the baking, the whole roof is crooked, there is little water
I also wanted to ask, I had permanent recipes on Redmond, are they suitable for Panasonic?
and something in the instructions did not see the gramme in size
is there 1250-900-700 g?

[Obstinate]

Obstinate, gramme of flour: 400,500 and 600g. Each recipe is written. Or are you talking about the weight of the finished bread?
I have been baking since 500 and the bread is almost covered. If from 400, then after the last workout, I slightly correct the bun so that the iron does not work (this is not about rye)

I'm talking about the weight of the finished bread
sizes M. L and XL
what recipes to count

[Obstinate]

Obstinate, for Panasov on the forum a sea of ​​recipes:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...n=com_smf&board=910.0
And the recipes from the instructions are also quite decent.

[Obstinate]

Obstinate, I have Redmond in front of Panasik, he is still alive, but the bread in it cannot be compared with Panasik. I have the same 2511, start with the recipes from the instructions, they are all proven.
Here, on the forum, there is a separate section "Bread in a Panasonic bread maker" https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...n=com_smf&board=910.0

[Obstinate]

there were permanent recipes on redmond, are they suitable for a Panasonic?

Before Panasik I had a Vitesse bread maker, in Panasonic, for all the recipes that were tested, I had to increase the amount of water, and decently - by 30-40 grams. And according to the instructions, I also add water to the recipes. Well, yes, you are an experienced baker, adapt

what patience you need to chew on such simple questions

Obstinate, we all were once in your place, and more experienced comrades supported and consoled us.
Soon you will be on this side of the front

[Obstinate]

Obstinate, congratulations on Panasonic! Let it serve for a long time and regularly, and feed it with delicious bread!

bought 2511,

I will also buy this one (or rather, my son suggested it in half), but I can't yet, my cat is ill, the treatment is very expensive, the main thing is to get better, and CP will be anyway))

yes, our smaller friends are of course more valuable than any technique
let him get better
and there will be bread

Let the cat get well! Panasiki will not go anywhere, your stove will wait for you.

let him get better

Let the cat get well!

Girls, thanks for the good wishes !!! Today I am joyful, my boy ate some food himself)) I fed with a syringe for 10 days ((My golden fold-eared baby, get well soon !!! Somewhere I caught panleukopenia (plague)) Many animals die, but I do not regret any funds for its treatment , After the loss of my Shar-Pei Lord (January 28 will be two years since he was on the rainbow), I could not bear the loss of a cat yet. Lord, help me and the doctor pull Basik out !!!

This post is a warning, if not on the topic sorry.

In search of Panasonic SD-ZB2512, I stumbled upon the site of the techno-shop.pro store, turned out to be another scammer, lured with advertisements with very low prices, in fact there is nothing in stock, but they immediately offer to pay for the order online. If you indicate that you will pick up by self and pay upon receipt, then later they simply silently cancel the order for far-fetched reasons.
The site "one-day" "sells" only bread makers, registered on 10/22/19, which also seems to hint ...
There are negative reviews for sites with similar names (for example, Tehno-, people made an advance payment and got paid.

Be careful not to be deceived!

Hello. I have not mastered all 456 pages, forgive me, but tomorrow-edge the day after tomorrow I'll go to the store for a bread maker, then please help me to decide. Choice of either Panasonic ZP2000KTS or ZB2512KTS. What's confusing about the 2512 is the dispenser. I had a bread maker 5 years ago (it served me a week in total), because of its dispenser, the seeds were not only in the bucket, but everywhere in general.Therefore, I have a little negative attitude towards dispensers. As for the 2512 with the dispenser, the volume is not important for me. And do I need a dispenser, if I do not need a delayed mode, I still prefer to control the process? But on the other hand, is 2000KTZ so good? in the store they have a nomination of 5000 now. It seems like you want a new one, but on the other hand, will there be money down the drain? Is it 2000 in quality? I plan to make bread from rye flour, with additives, whole grain, gluten-free. For health reasons, I need to dilute wheat flour to the maximum. No baking is planned, except for Easter cake. I also don't plan to make jams, soups, yoghurts in a bread machine. Kneading noodle dough (buckwheat noodles) would be preferable. Do they allow heat to pass through, are there any defects? What is the best choice?

[Amka]

Amka, I am for the "classics" 2512. I don't like the crust of 2500. IMHO
Read the topic about 2500, see pictures of bread.

What's confusing about the 2512 dispenser

This model has two dispensers. If you don't need them, then why overpay?

If you don't need them, then why pay extra

So the model with a dispenser is 5000 cheaper, what is the overpayment then? I decided on the company for a long time since the panosonic did not disappoint me yet, I see in my city only Panasonic SD-ZP2000KTS from the bread machines of this company without a dispenser, the rest with dispensers (2512,2511,2510).

I like the crust of 2500

only not 2500, but 2000KTS watched the whole topic about 2000, at first the crusts were scared, then like cute ones went. But I got upset, a little. I think I'll take 2512, people have more work with her, if the store doesn't bother me ... I'm addicted to design

[Amka]

Amka, and 2511 is not in your city? There is only one dispenser in it, and that can be removed and not used with additives. I have just 2511, I am very happy with it. I use a dispenser, but very rarely

2511 not in your city?

there is one. For me, 1 or 2 dispensers are not important, I probably will not use them anyway. I just wanted absolutely no dispenser and a new, dark one. I think that the 2512 is not a bad model, and the difference in price between 2511 and 2512 1000r does not seem to be particularly noticeable.

It's just that when dispensers are triggered, the panasik makes a very sharp sound, and the yeast dispenser works at 2512 in each program, in contrast to dispensers for additives, which works only in special programs. The sound is very sharp, even during the day I jump when the additive dispenser is triggered, it is good and I rarely use it.But perhaps you have stronger nerves than me and this will not bother you

The 2510 does not have a dispenser.

So, read about 2510 in more detail. Another question Panasonic SD-2501 WTS and 2502 only differ in color? a little expensive of course ... I'll probably choose all night today

At one time I did not take 2510 due to the lack of a rye regime, although now I bake rye bread without using a rye program
Look at the comparison table for easy selection Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)

Yes, there is no rye regime. How worried I was at first! And what, one wonders, if I bake bread with a maximum of 30% rye. Well ooooo rare 50%

So now I knead dumplings with pure rye on the prog, and I bake in general in the cartoon

I also mix with "dumplings", and bake in the oven, but my son likes it more from the oven.



Now I use "main", "dumplings" and "pastries"

At one time I did not take 2510 due to the lack of a rye regime, although now I bake rye bread without using a rye program

so I read that 2501 has a comb for rye flour, now I am thinking about it. It's embarrassing that in Dns it costs 17 thousand, and according to the Yandex market it is from 10 thousand + delivery to my city. But I have never ordered such equipment, only all sorts of trifles, ugly. In principle, in my plans to bake mostly not white bread, maybe this is worth taking ... I have already tortured my relatives for today: tomorrow we are going for bread maker A, in half an hour for bread maker B .. C, no, we are definitely going for A ,. .. And maybe D. Well, you understand ..

[Mandraik Ludmila]

Mandraik Ludmila, did you buy a rye comb on Ali? If, what, then also as an option

On the one hand, the comb can be purchased separately, but I bought additional paddles on Ali, since I bought my mother a panasik on Avita without stirrers.
But there is one recipe on the Rye Prog, which I rarely do now, then when I have no time to mess around, I'm talking about this Ritochkin bread

Rye-wheat bread "Westphalian Passion" (mamusi)

[Mandraik Ludmila]

Mandraik Ludmila, yes, of course, it is not in vain that the rye program is. Perhaps someone uses it very often. But this is not my case. I love Borodino bread, but my son - no, and try to portray it once a year ...

bought additional paddles on Ali

As far as I understand, you can put such blades on any model? If so, then it turns out I need to choose a model where there is: gluten-free, knead for noodles, rye, with seeds and bran, well, so that everything is baked normally and the crust looks delicious. In terms of quality, as I understand it, they are all the same? My first bread maker ten died a week later, with those like that there shouldn't be such a problem, right?

[Amka]

can you put such blades on any model?

Amka, yes, that's right, the blades are the same for all 25 .. models but not for 2000

it is not for nothing that the rye program. Perhaps someone uses it very often.

I! I use it all the time. We often get together with friends. Previously, one Rita's Westphalian was enough, now they ask to bake two.
And the grandson loves him very much.
I have 2511. If I had to choose again now, I would choose ... 2511. I use the dispenser once a year (Easter cake), but I am very glad that it is.

I! I use constantly

And I

I have 2511. If I had to choose again now, I would choose ... 2511

+++++
I agree with Galya .2511 is very suitable for me.

[bastard]

Hello everyone!!!
AND CONGRATULATIONS!
I have 2501. There is a rye regime.
There is a Rye comb ...
But I bastard,
Nearly always ...
I forget to put it!
I wish you a successful Bread!
(Happy Holidays to everyone ...)
Hugs and kisses!

Ritochka! Happy New Year and old New and Merry Christmas! We are all glad to see you
Yes, I sometimes forget to change the scapula, yesterday I made a dough for pizza with rye flour, there was already a comb, I did not remove it, although there is 3 times more wheat flour than rye

[Mandraik Ludmila]

Mandraik Ludmila, Buttercup, Lyudochka, ooo, you reminded me of this dough in our Panaska!
We need to make such a pizza.
There is it in the Recipe Book, but I think you adapted it somehow, no?

Ritochka, I made a simplified version yesterday

250ml water
100g rye flour
260g wheat flour
1 st. l. olive oil
1h l. salt
1 st. l. honey
1h l. dry yeast
I rolled it from half of the resulting dough into a Princess, here it turned out:
Dough for wheat-rye pizza from Panasonic # 63

made a simplified version

The beauty!
Thank you, too.
Clever you and our Panasik!

[Mandraik Ludmila]

Mandraik Ludmila, Buttercup, and I also looked at this recipe from you. I want to try something.

Girls checked! No mines!
There will be no pizza on the prog, but the dough is smooth and almost not sticky, oh, I forgot to write down 1 tablespoon olive oil
Rolled out on corn flour.

Good day everyone!
I ask for help, or approval, at least something. For a long time I chose HP for myself, before that I had never had one, and I still don't understand where the thought came home about HP. I read forums, saw enough videos, reviews in stores, and the choice fell on Panas. Again I had to choose from the Panas, the choice again fell on 2502 or 2512, of which 2512 won. But since I’m no baker yet, I’ve never dealt with this business, only fried crackers in a frying pan of loaves. While I was looking for a cheaper price, in my region, I missed Panas 2512KTS for 14290, waited for when they would appear, it was Panasov who were not at all in chain stores, at least in my city, but in the region (Sverdlovsk) there were, but the price tags were already very wild, for 17000 rubles, as a beginner it seemed very cool to me, you can take Gorenie 910 for 3200 to Eldorado for a test, taking into account discounts and bonuses, but the soul has become attached to Panas. Yesterday at NORD24 I still managed to catch Panas 2512 for 14790, and made an order, on January 16 it is necessary to pick it up. Before that, I watched it on the official Panasonic website, it was dismantled for the new year and there all the models are quietly on the site, but 2512 is over, and still not (this spurred me even more to this model).The question is, isn't it cool with the price for a beginner and never even tried bread from HP. Please speak up.
Thank you in advance. All success and all the best!

[Alexander]

Alexander, no, not cool! My husband's sister bought herself HP about a year ago, maybe a little less, on my tip, also 2512. And a couple of weeks later she bought her mother-in-law the same So as not to drag bread to my mother And they constantly bake it. With this HP, bread will start to turn out either immediately, or almost immediately - depending on where you start and how you follow the recipe (do you have a scale ?!). But with other stoves - you can get tired without experience.

[Anna]

Anna, I haven't bought the scales yet. Thank you for your help!

[jawar]

jawar, good day!
I have the same model, I bought it 2 years ago, it was a little cheaper with a discount than yours now, but in principle this model is not cheap, it is with bells and whistles. I was also a novice baker, and I got used to this model and I do not regret at all that I wasted. Although here many will tell you that it is quite possible to take a cheaper model, without dispensers, they say they are not needed, they break, there is a lot of noise from them, etc.
My kitchen is separated from the bedroom by a hall, so the noise from the operation of the dispensers does not bother me at all, and since I most often put on baking bread for the night and with a delay, you cannot add additions manually (and we respect bread with seeds sooo much), and I prefer to put yeast in my dispenser, and not to bury it in flour.

Olga, he doesn't bother me either, he doesn't shoot every minute. Especially since I live next to the road, and there motorcyclists make noise better than a dispenser, and music lovers drive at night.

[Alexander]

Alexander, well, what to do if Panasiki are so worth it. I bought my 2511 three years ago at a discount for 13tyr with a tail. How many didn’t look for cheaper, only on Avita used ones can be found cheaper.
Panasik will not disappoint you, it is a stove that guarantees delicious results. My husband baked bread himself a couple of times in Panasika, he just took the instructions, from there, according to the recipe, he laid the products and got bread, although when he forgot to pour water for the second time, he did not spare the honey and got a cookie with flour, part of the flour absorbed the honey during kneading and it turned out something like a cookie, the rest remained the same Such things happen to everyone, then you forget to put a spatula, then you will not report something, it rarely happens, but this is not Panasik's fault, we are all in a hurry somewhere.
Panasonic reliable stoves! I congratulate you on your choice. Come to us tell us how and what happens

[Mandraik Ludmila]

Mandraik Ludmila, got it! Now, apparently for me, time will stop, and I can't wait for January 16.

[Alexander]

Alexander, as Anya wrote, you must buy electronic scales (with taring, that is, zeroing the tare weight), without them you can’t, all recipes are in grams. And it would be nice to have a sieve, it is more convenient to have a mechanical sieve to sift the flour directly into the oven bucket, a sieve of this type

I have an electric vibrating sieve, but you can buy it only over the hill, we had a collective purchase here on ebee.
Good luck!

I, as a girl cautious and not prone to adventures, at one time acted differently. I bought a Vitesse bread maker with a 50% discount for 2.5 thousand and thus began my baking business. She adapted to the stove pretty quickly, although not immediately. The first breads were not very interesting, although they were quite edible, then things went better and in this bread maker I began to get very decent results.
But my decision to purchase was spontaneous, I did not study the market, I had no idea about this site, I did not consult with anyone, but simply fell for a discount. And, by the way, I never regretted it.
When the bucket began to leak in Vitesse, I was already better armed and my choice fell on Panas 2512.
Panasonic are very good bread makers, high quality, reliable, maintainable, and most importantly, they bake delicious bread!
Of course, for a person who has never tasted bread from KP, such an expensive purchase is a risky step. Bread, after all, is somewhat different than the usual purchased one.What if you don't like it? But on the other hand, if you have the desire and patience, in Panas you can get bread that will taste just for you.
My advice is to take Panasonic. Who does not take risks, he does not drink champagne.
Any hobby costs money, and baking is a wonderful hobby!
As a last resort, if you really can't make friends at all, sell it.

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, over time I will acquire, while there is still nothing, like the oven itself Thank you!

Svetlana, thank you!
time went even slower ...