Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)

of them won 2512

That's right, a good model. A yeast dispenser may not be such a superfluous thing. The day before yesterday I baked rye and forgot about the yeast. I decided to throw it during the batch at the second start, but I wasted the time. I had to launch it a third time. The result is an excellent bread.
Panasonic is good in that 99% of beginners will get bread. Expensive, I understand. I also bought at the wrong time and everything was also sold out. And it was not clear whether Panasik will become cheaper or more expensive. I bought it and did not regret a single minute.

Yesterday I baked rye-wheat bread for ~ 300gr of flour (rye flour ended at home):

[Buttercup]

Buttercup, did you bake with rye Uvelka? I recently bought a 2kg package. I like some cereals at Uvelka's, some - not, but this is the first time I've seen such flour.

[Svetochka]

Svetochka, this time I had a rye divinka. We have to go shopping, we ran out of rye and whole grain flour, and we ran out of bran

By the way, while I was looking for Panas, I also ran into the site techno-shop.p # o (I will not insert the link) Their prices seemed very sweet, I turned to the official, do you work with such an Internet shop, the answer was no, but those had the trick that payment after receipt, I decided to take a chance, made an order, they, in turn, began to breed for another manufacturer GARMIN - 1000, like the Panasov mechanics have recently had a plastic one, and often fails, I again to official, there I was reassured that do not worry everything is normal. I'm back to those, give me Panas, the order has been placed and we are waiting. After 15 minutes, an SMS arrives that the entire Panas line is rejected from them, and they do not ship it. And apparently before my application, the entire line was not defective. These are the pies. What is interesting about this office is that they have several types of products, and each product has its own website, but the actual address is the same. The office itself is in Moscow, and the lawyer is in St. Petersburg. And as if all UGRIL and OGRN are fighting on the tax, that is, people are not hiding, everything is normal. I don’t know, if I had made the payment through the website, then I would have become Santa Claus for someone before the new year.
Someone wrote about this office already in the thread, 2 pages ago.

[Alexander]

Alexander, as you did the right thing. Yes, we know these stores, and everyone who asks about them here is answered and discouraged from buying, since the purchase will definitely not take place. They lure people, but the result is the same. Such as you described.

[Alexander]

Alexander, yes, they wrote about this recently, almost each of us, in search of Panasik, "found" such sellers at a cheaper price, where after the order they tried to sell something else, and then canceled the order because of the "unsuccessful" batch of Panasiks, nothing changes, unfortunately
Immediately after myself, I bought my mom a Panasik on Avita for 5tyr, a new one, but without shoulder blades, I bought additional shoulder blades on Ali, my mother bakes bread and is happy to be glad. We have and $ vetLana, I bought a second Panasik for a dacha on Avita. This is of course a small risk, but if you check, then Panasiks are very reliable and if the blade is spinning and the heating element is heating, then the Panasik is alive. But the first stove, it seems to me, is still better to take a new one

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, I agree and support. At the beginning of the topic, you can write about the official support service Panasonic phone 8-800-200-21-00, maybe not everyone knows how to act in such situations, and let the joint venture answer, this is their job.

At the beginning of the topic, you can write about the official Panasonic support service phone 8-800-200-21-00

Unfortunately, our moderator Taliya rarely visits us now, I will try to write to the Chief, so that he would put this phone on the first page, he can do

And yet, Panasonic has two prices. One on the site, the second with bonuses that they give upon registration, such as discounts. And the discounts are good. For example, Panas 2512 the price on the site is 17,990 rubles, and upon registration and fulfillment of certain conditions, they give a discount of 3,000 rubles, in the end it comes out 14,990, and 2502 costs 18,990 and with a discount it costs 14290.
We look at the screen.
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[jawar]

jawar, although I have a cheaper Panasonic model, I am sincerely glad for your choice. When I bought from me, there was both an assistant and a brake in one person, and next to them in the CSN there were 2510 and 2511.

[Alexander]

Alexander, if this is your photo, upload it to the gallery and from there paste it into the text, if the photo is from the tyrnet, then click on the button with Jaconda and paste the link in the middle of the symbols that appear. Oh well, I explained

[Irinap]

Irinapyou ask them for humidifiers
I bought it, the sales assistant called it "garbage". Not that the humidifier itself is bullshit, he just doesn't know what it is.

Mandraik Ludmila, already figured it out

[Alexander]

Alexander, screenshots cannot be uploaded through the gallery - these are not photos. Only through third-party services such as Through the gallery you can only YOUR PHOTOS. That is, only my own and only photographs. Everything else - through photo hosting.

[Anna]

Anna, and I understand you!

[jawar]

jawar, no no, my son slowed down the purchase of 2511. And the sellers - yes, you start asking questions, but they are far away. And I ask very few questions.

my son slowed down the purchase 2511

For what reason?

[NatalyaB]

NatalyaB, without any. I didn't bake bread then, even attempts to bake were stopped. And when they brought me home, he told me right away: Peki.

My husband and son gave me half for my birthday, my son lives in the city, does not eat bread at all, Panasik in the village makes my husband happy, I eat very little bread, but soon we don’t buy bread at all for 5 years. True Panasik I have a third stove, I tried to save everything, the avaricious pays "three times"

And it turns out that my son likes bread baked in KhP more. So the stove will work more actively, otherwise I often baked in the oven.

[Irinap]

Irinap, A! I thought there was some kind of defect in the model, visible only to a tech-savvy person.
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And so, I like this model. If I had changed my own, 2501, I would have bought 2511. For almost 11 years of use (more than 5 years 255, the rest of the time 2501) I never forgot to lay yeast, so I don't need a yeast dispenser. I forgot to insert the paddle a couple of times - it was. A couple of times it doesn't count. Maybe it's still ahead, but for now, like this.
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And why is 2501 more expensive in shops than 2511, more sophisticated in functionality? There are reviews about the breakdown of the plastic shaft. What, where? I don't see any plastic in mine. Somewhere inside? Maybe this is the reason for the increased price?
Or is 2501 already rare?
Well, the prices on the Panasonic website scared or upset ...

There is a topic Panasonic Bread Makers Problems and Breakdowns
Panasiks rarely break, and the plastic assembly protects the engine from overload, it is better to break a cheap plastic part than to burn an expensive engine. Otherwise, the steel "insert" will remain intact on the burned out engine, which is much worse. There are sold plastic inserts for the meat grinders - consumables, and everyone is happy. And on Panasik, unscrupulous sellers, it is necessary to "crumble a loaf" for something, so, hoping for our technical ignorance, they hang "noodles". Someone gets caught

Well, the prices on the Panasonic website scared or upset ...

The usual practice of an official. Go to the website of any manufacturer, be surprised. The price is higher than that of the same Eldorado or any other retail chain.

There is a topic

This is all clear, but the question about "why is 2501 more expensive", for what differences, remains.

The usual practice of an official.

Maybe, but not always. Recently, Dyson bought something: the prices are the same between them and the stores that officially sell their equipment. And such brutal prices of Panasonic and other stores are found.

[NatalyaB]

NatalyaB, it's just that Dyson does not allow all other stores that legally purchase the goods to reduce prices. But those who buy Dysons in Europe, for example, sell these products here much cheaper. True, if anything - butting with a guarantee will be problematic.

but the question about "why 2501 is more expensive", for what differences, remained

I'm interested too, but there is no answer

[Anchic]

Anchic, may be. But strange: mvideo buys Panasonic, bypassing the official channel? With a guarantee, they seem to have order.At least my Kenwood bought from them checked in. But it was, however, not cheaper than on the official website ...

[NatalyaB]

NatalyaB, no. It's just that Panasonic does not put pressure on sellers with a price. And Dyson crushes, so the price is the same everywhere, except for gray shops. Manufacturers are different, with different pricing policies.

[Anchic]

Anchic, well, let it be. Thank you.

Greetings, ladies! I bought my Panas. I loaded it onto a dough loaf of bread. I'm waiting.
I do not know whether I am writing in this thread or not, I have not sat on the Forums for a long time. If it's not difficult, throw off the link to the branch, about baking, it seems there was such - general.
I heard somewhere that the dough should not be sticky, I have sticky (or it seems so, everything is a wonder, maybe for specialists, on the contrary, it seems dry) where to read about it, or if it is really sticky, can you add flour? By the time of the test, another 3 hours before the bread live
Again, thanks for your help!

[Alexander]

Alexander, on the first page of this topic take a look. You need to read about the kolobok. A good bun is a good bread (except for rye) The dough should not be sticky. It should be as soft as an earlobe.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...338.0
Congratulations on Panasik!

[Alexander]

Alexander, the first page of this topic has links to all topics that interest you.

[Galina]

Galina, already looking

[Alexander]

Alexander, good luck! There are so many information that it takes a lot of time to study everything.

[jawar]

jawar, Alexanderhow is bread? Did it work out?

jawar, Alexander, how is bread? Did it work out?

Yes! It turned out, delicious, but painfully "fluffy" I prepared 1 program "Basic", I will work out the recipes. Now I bought a ready-made mixture "Pudov" by Borodinsky. Testing

[jawar]

bought a ready-made mixture "Pudov" Borodinsky.

jawar, Alexander, throw byaku!
The hunt was to pay that kind of money for a bread maker to bake the same store bread at a high price!

[Svetlana]

Svetlanawhile I study on the standards, my second loaf of bread will be. I'll fill my hand, and then we'll bake something more original.

It is better to fill your hand on the recipes from the instructions.
Or on recipes from our website.
And first on wheat bread or with a small amount of other types of flour

Well, don't go back to the store to take the mixture

Alas, now you have to bake!

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, can you tell me on which program and what weight to set? and then I can’t catch up a little. I apologize
Mix weight 500 grams

[Alexander]

Alexander, do not apologize
I don't use ready-made mixtures, but you can try to reason. We must proceed from the composition of the mixture. If there is wheat and rye flour, then, depending on the ratio of these types of flour, Basic, Diet or Rye will go.
If there is very little rye flour - Basic
If rye flour is 15-50% - Diet
If the rye flour is more than 50% - Rye.
If the% content is not indicated, I would try on Diet.
Surely the composition contains gluten and other improvers, everything should work out.
Maybe now those who baked from mixtures will come up and tell you more precisely.

For ready-made mixtures - the main mode, they are sold for any x / stove, the main one is in all, and others are not. Dietary is quite specific, if it contains whole grain flour, buckwheat, the instructions contain somtava for a dietary regimen.

Mix weight 500 grams

Set the weight to average (L is it called).

Honestly, I never set the weight, as XL goes there by default, so I bake everything, I don't bother.

Borodnsky, in theory, is either pure rye, or with a small content of wheat flour.

Keyword

in theory

And what did they mix in there - who knows ...
They push malt, coriander and acidifiers to wheat flour - and now Borodinsky

When there is absolutely no time for weighing ingredients, sifting flour, etc., it is very convenient to use ready-made mixtures, why immediately tell them "no"? The bread from them in Panasika turns out to be wonderful, I always keep a couple of packages at home for such an occasion.
I don't really like Borodinsky, but when I took it, I baked it from this mixture on rye.
In general, it is usually recommended to bake from a mixture of flour on Dietetichesky, there, by the way, does not need to be set, there is simply no such function. One of my favorite modes, as most often I bake from a combination of different torments

For ready mixes - basic mode

And on my main bread it turns out worse than on dietary, but here I really have to try and determine who likes what.

[jawar]

jawar, in the first place in the composition of this mixture is wheat flour. This means that there is more of it, and the main program will "pull out" bread. Also: Pudov's added coriander is poorly ground, there are a lot of whole grains. I sifted the mixture and sprinkled them on top with these sifted wholes before baking (brush with milk and sprinkle), and added a little ground inside. I've been baking for a long time, I don't remember very well, something was wrong with the water, but it was to track the bun. In principle, I remember, it turned out very well.
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About the "fluffiness" of your first bread. I also picked it up for myself for some time, adjusting the recipe. Reduced the amount of yeast, sugar. Replaced part of the flour with semolina (2 spoons), part with 1 grade flour. In general, there are many recipes here, you will figure it out. Happy bread!

Thank you all for your help! He stirred the branch. I put L and Diet, but wait 5 hours. But yesterday's bread is still left, we won't die of hunger