gala10
Quote: Vitalia_08
yeast smelled like fermented dough, peroxidized
Was the yeast damp?
Anchic
Tatyana, maybe the yeast is strong and turned out to be too much?
Vitalia_08
gala10, Galina, who knows? They lay in a closed pack in a closet. Shelf life up to 21 years.
I want to try some other version of bread on the same yeast, if there is the same nonsense, I will change the yeast.





Anna, there was an idea to bake something simple with the same yeast and with the amount of yeast according to the recipe. If there is a smell again, then I will change the yeast.
I would choose what to bake ...
And about the roof, make sure that the matter is in the volume of liquid.
$ vetLana
Vitalia_08, Tatyana, congratulations on Panasik!
Quote: Vitalia_08
Wheat 350 gr
Rye 50 gr
Salt 1 tsp
1 tbsp butter l
Water 300 ml
Dry yeast 1 tsp
I looked at my notes. I baked this bread, but with vegetable oil. I took 300 ml. water (in book recipe 310). Worth the score excellent. So, the bread turned out and liked it.
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In my experience, the recipes from Panasik's book work well.
In my laid out recipes I have bread with wheat flour, but I baked on a low-yeast mode.

Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)Whole Grain Bread (from the Panasonic SD-2511 / SD-2510 CP recipe book)
($ vetLana)


I think if you increase the amount of yeast to 1 tsp, then it can be baked on the basic or dietary regime.

Vitalia_08
Svetlana, Thank you for your congratulations)
I also wanted to replace creamy with mustard, but again I decided strictly according to the recipe. If everything worked out for you, then the point is in my flour (or rather, in its moisture). Or in flour and yeast.
I will definitely look at your recipe. In principle, I do not need to bake in the main mode. I can also try on low-yeast)
$ vetLana
Quote: Vitalia_08
... I can also try on low-yeast
Then bake on it.
The recipe book contains Rye Bread for Low Yeast Mode. It can be baked too.
I sift the flour whenever possible. I use Pakmaya Turkish yeast.
I make sure that the stove is not in a draft.
Vitalia_08
Svetlana, sifted flour, read about Pakmaya yeast, but when I looked at the assortment of nearby supermarkets, I did not see this yeast.
I read about drafts, so I closed the window, set the stove as far as possible in a 5.8 sq. m
hostess70
Good day!
I fired up the dream of getting myself an assistant HP Panasonic. I read a lot of characteristics of different models, watched video reviews and came to the conclusion that I want HP SD2511. Since I bake a lot of baked goods for my household, I think such a detail as a dispenser will be a good plus in the characteristics of HP. I buy myself only rye bread, but it is difficult to find it, they mainly sell wheat-rye bread. That is why I want to pamper myself with rye bread or whole grain.
Friends, do you think I made a good choice? My husband sometimes scolds me that I always get a lot of information about buying some kind of equipment for myself, then my brains cannot get together and stop at a certain model.
Thank you for participating))
$ vetLana
Quote: hostess70
Friends, do you think I made a good choice?
Good.





Quote: hostess70
I buy myself only rye bread, but it is difficult to find it, they mainly sell wheat-rye bread. That is why I want to pamper myself with rye bread or whole grain
I bake pure rye, or rye with wheat tsz, or with peeled rye and tsz rye flour
Are you ready for a little dance during the kneading session? It will be necessary to help with a spatula during kneading, mix flour from the corners of the bucket into the dough.
But the result is worth it
hostess70
Quote: $ vetLana
Ready for a little dance
Ready)) I love movement)) Thanks for the answer! Now I will study the topic on sourdoughs and bread recipes
Vyacheslav Ivanov
Good evening!
Is a yeast dispenser a plus or a technical overkill (2501)?
Why is the new 2501 1.5 times more expensive than the new 2510?
gala10
Quote: Vyacheslav Ivanov
Is a yeast dispenser a plus or a technical overkill (2501)?
Good evening!
In my opinion - overkill. But for different additives (raisins, seeds, etc.) I personally need it.
Quote: Vyacheslav Ivanov
Why is the new 2501 1.5 times more expensive than the new 2510?

On the first page of the topic there is a link to a comparison table for Panasonic. Functions 2501 and 2510 are different. For example, the second does not have a rye mode, no dispenser.
$ vetLana
Quote: Vyacheslav Ivanov
Is a yeast dispenser a plus or a technical overkill (2501)?
If you plan to bake bread with additives or cakes, it is convenient with a dispenser. Without a dispenser, you will have to "catch" the time when you need to add, for example, raisins. Panasik is quiet, the sound signal (after all, the 2510 has it, if I’m not mistaken) can not be heard, but the display will have an image of hands (which means you need to put additives at this time)
Prices, in my opinion, are strange SOMETIMES at Panasonic. The worst model can cost more than the best.




Quote: Vyacheslav Ivanov
Why the new 2501 is 1.5 times more expensive than the new 2510
Of these, 2501 is better for me
hostess70
Friends, did anyone subscribe to HP through an online store? If so, which one? So that it is not considered an advertisement, you can throw it off in a personal. Looked in my city all the stores of household appliances and Panasonic is not available. I am my stationary mixer Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4) I wrote it through Aliexpress, but I found HP on TMALL / I wonder if you can trust him?

There is no such model as I want (SD2511), there are only such SD-2501WTS, SD-2510WTS and SD-2511WTS.
I don't know which one to choose.
$ vetLana
hostess70, I bought in IM Mvideo by self.
Now Ozone has Panasonic.
Palych
Quote: hostess70
I don't know which one to choose.
And I will probably order the SD-2510WTS, dispensers are evil, the rye program is not needed and is absolutely a marketing ploy.
$ vetLana
Quote: Palych
the rye program is not needed either - absolutely a marketing ploy
It's not the same for everybody. For me - irreplaceable and beloved.
Irinap
I bought in dns
gala10
Quote: Palych
the rye program is absolutely a marketing ploy.
I disagree. I have a rye program - just the most in demand.
And I use a dispenser for cakes.
hostess70
Quote: Palych
dispensers - evil, not needed
I often bake pastries and therefore it will be convenient with the dispensary, so as not to stand over the HP and wait when it is necessary to add raisins.
Quote: gala10
I have a rye program - just the most in demand.
I also eat only rye bread, so the "rye bread" function is important to me.

Now I went to our online store Fridge ru again and a model appeared there as I want, but they write that it is not in our city, it will be delivered from another city. Added to the basket, tomorrow I will consult with my husband, I must buy)) Moreover, today all day I was interested in what I want as a gift to NG))




Quote: Irinap
I bought in dns
I looked at the catalog of this store (there are two of them in my city), but there is no such model, it is not even in the entire Krasnodar Territory, only in Moscow stores there is ((They do not write anything for delivery in Russia, as I understand it, one must personally come and buy.
Irinap
hostess70, I bought it in 2017. I have a model 2510. At first there was not enough rye program, but now it is very normal without it. I only knead in HP, but bake in the oven. In the summer, in the heat, I will only bake in HP. At the moment I need programs "dumplings" for kneading any dough, "baking" and sometimes "main"
NatalyaB
Yeast dispenser - I do not know, when loading, stated in the instructions, it is not clear in what cases it is needed. But maybe because I don't have it.
But the additive dispenser is a very handy thing. Not just for raisins / seeds. But also for savory additives: sun-dried tomatoes, olives ... Again, I had such a dispenser in both the first and second bread makers. I got used to it, I would not choose another if I had a choice.
Rye program - it is more convenient to bake rye and rye-wheat bread on it.Of course, you can do without it, who can argue? But why? In the first HP, I did not have one, somehow I managed. But it took some skill. In the second, just 2501, it is, I tried it - it's okay. And someone adapted the rye oven only on it.
All these are the conveniences for automatic baking or close to it. For those who use HP only as a kneader, of course, it doesn't matter.
Well, and a bucket. I don't know, maybe for some time all Panasonic HPs began to be equipped with buckets with such a coating, but in comparison with the old one (255, I don't think I remember), this is a thing. The old ones were scratched even by the added seeds; after baking, the bread had to be taken out with a wooden spatula, which also added scratches. And new for almost 6 years (it seems) - like new.
Natasha * Chamomile
Quote: hostess70
I looked at the catalog of this store (there are two of them in my city), but there is no such model, it is not
And you look at the catalog not DNS, but TechnoPoint. This is also their catalog, but often prices are lower than in the DNS itself. If there is, they will bring it. I always buy from them that way.
$ vetLana
Quote: NatalyaB
I don't know, maybe for some time all Panasonic HPs began to be equipped with buckets with such a coating, but in comparison with the old one (255, I don't think I remember), this is a thing.
As I understand it, a new coating appeared in the 257 model. Because I was looking for a second Panasik to the dacha and read about old models, I chose from 257, 2501 and 2511. I needed a rye program and a good bucket.
hostess70
Friends! Thank you all for participating in my not unimportant question about the choice of HP! Another question is, there are models that have a removable cover, how do you think this is such an important point in use? Or is it just convenient when leaving? Thank you!
$ vetLana
Quote: hostess70
, there are models with a removable cover
I don't know about those. Which model is it in? Not to be confused with a multicooker?
hostess70

Quote: $ vetLana
Which model is it in?
Panasonic SD-2510; Panasonic SD-2511WTS
gala10
Quote: hostess70
Panasonic SD-2510; Panasonic SD-2511WTS
In 2511 - definitely not removable.
In 2510 - the same as in 2511:
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)
$ vetLana
Since I have instructions for two models 2510 and 2511, I looked specifically. About the differences photographed
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)




The removable cover is not written anywhere
hostess70
gala10The 2511 is not removable, but the SD-2511WTS says it is removable.

In general, it is not necessary, apparently, to bother with this item of characteristics.
$ vetLana
In my opinion, one wrote nonsense in the description, and others repeated it. The exact information can be found on the official website.




We must wait for the owners of 2510 for clarification.
gala10
Quote: $ vetLana
can be viewed on the official website
I have seen. Non-removable.
Irinap
My lid is not removable 2510. In my opinion, it is better not to need a removable one, and why?
$ vetLana
Quote: gala10
I have seen. Non-removable
Quote: Irinap
My lid is not removable 2510
So we found out.
And in the vastness of the Internet there really is infa about a removable cover, and someone will buy.
gala10
Quote: $ vetLana
And on the Internet
Oh, and something is not there in these open spaces ... Well, at least there is a HP site where you can get reliable information.
hostess70
Quote: gala10
Well, at least there is a KP site where you can get reliable information.
It's great that there is HP. RU!
Quote: $ vetLana
So we found out
Yeah)) And then they would bring me HP, and I would start checking it with the courier and, having found out that my copy does not have a removable cover, I would find fault with the "low-quality product"))
All right, I am calm, my head is clear, my mind is ready and now I know what I want !!! Thanks everyone !!!
NatalyaB
Quote: hostess70
All right, I am calm, my head is clear, my mind is ready and now I know what I want !!! Thanks everyone !!!
Good luck!
gala10
The people, maybe someone will be interested in this?
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in....0
Marisha Aleksevna
Girls, boys, does anyone put sea salt in the bread? Does it need as much as an ordinary one or is there a difference? Thank you in advance
an_domini
The pack of coarse sea salt has just ended. Used, including in bread and buns, as well as ordinary cookery. There is no difference for baking, but it is believed that it is so useful - useful, well, so fashionable.
In terms of the degree of salinity, in general, salt is slightly different depending on the place of production, empirically, everyone determines this for himself, and for sea also, you just have to try.
Marisha Aleksevna
Olga, thank you very much
$ vetLana
Quote: Marisha Aleksevna

Girls, boys, does anyone put sea salt in the bread? Does it need as much as an ordinary one or is there a difference? Thank you in advance
Marina, I put the sea, but when it's not there, then the usual one.I don’t feel the difference in bread, but when cooking, sometimes you can really feel the difference in salinity
Mandraik Ludmila
I don't use sea salt
Marisha Aleksevna

$ vetLana, thanks, now I will know, so ordinary dishes confused me, it really turns out saltier.
Obstinate
Good day.
I finally decided on the Panasonic stove, that's just brought
Tell me about the modes:
1) low-yeast bread what kind of animal is it? (it is clear that there is less yeast) But how does this affect the bread itself, its taste? baked because it is "healthier"?
2) What does filled bread mean? There is a regime with raisins, isn't it the same thing?
Or does it mean that the ingredients with the filling are already in the bucket when kneading, and the dispenser works with the raisins?
3) dietary bread and single grain - what does this mean?
which one is suitable for baking whole grains? how do these modes differ from the main one?

thanks for answers

SvetaI
Congratulations on your successful purchase!
Quote: Obstinate
low-yeast bread what kind of animal is it?
By reducing the amount of yeast, the proofing time increases, and the longer the proofing, the more aromatic and tastier the bread. I love this program, I love both the taste of this bread and the crumb structure.
Quote: Obstinate
2) What does filled bread mean?
This is the name of the program, which provides for the introduction of additives manually on a signal, in contrast to bread with raisins, where additives are introduced automatically using a dispenser.
Quote: Obstinate
dietary bread and single grain
Diet - this is just for bread with whole grain flour. And odnozenna was called spelled flour.
In general, the difference between the modes is quite large - both in the mixing algorithm and in the time and temperature of proofing.
Try, experiment, delicious bread for you!
Mandraik Ludmila
Obstinate, congratulations on your purchase, Svetlana explained everything correctly, I have nothing to add
Obstinate
Thank you, yes, Svetlana has already thanked
This is what patience it takes to chew on such simple questions for beginners like me
$ vetLana
Obstinate, with Panasik !!!
I really like the Low Yeast Mode. Dietichesky has a minus for me - you can't expose the crust. But for a certain flour, it is exactly what it is.
hostess70
Obstinate, what model did you buy? And, of course, I sincerely congratulate you on the fulfillment of your dream)) Let it work smoothly for many years)) And feed your family with fragrant bread))

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