Irinap
Mandraik Ludmila, I really don't want to mess with the leaven. If I still baked every day, otherwise ... I'll see. Maybe something will work out.
I really liked yours with cottage cheese, so beautiful! I immediately remembered how I worked in Ukraine after graduation. There is no cake, but it was sold very similar, how fragrant and delicious it was mmm ..
Mandraik Ludmila
This one with cottage cheese is now my duty, I change a little the ratio of different kinds of flour, I tried to do it with rye - "not that coat"
Anatoly_1960
Quote: Irinap
And I have a problem, well, not really a problem. We eat bread for a long time, it gets spoiled, I don't like to store it in the refrigerator.

And I read on this forum and apply the advice: I keep sliced ​​bread in the freezer. I defrost either in the microwave or after 30 minutes it will defrost itself. The bread is delicious, it looks like it has just been baked. I bake different varieties. Half a loaf in the bread bin, half a loaf in the freezer. And then we eat from the freezer
Thumbelina

Hello everyone!
I left the yeast altogether.
Rye sourdough 250g, premium wheat flour 450g, salt, 1 tsp sugar 3/4 tbsp. l, water, 270ml and onions fried in oil 3 tbsp. l, program 6 hours for French with a delay of 2 hours.

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Lelik_R
Quote: Anatoly_1960
And I read on this forum and apply the advice: I keep sliced ​​bread in the freezer. I defrost either in the microwave or after 30 minutes it will defrost itself. The bread is delicious, it looks like it has just been baked. I bake different varieties. Half a loaf in the bread bin, half a loaf in the freezer. And then we eat from the freezer
So I learned here, I do it too, very convenient, bread is always the freshest
Mandraik Ludmila
Thumbelina, beautiful bread turned out, directly sunny
Irinap
Thumbelina, beautiful bread turned out. And I don’t want to be friends with the leaven, although it’s in the refrigerator, it’s so fragrant Rarely does bread, endlessly renew only the leaven.
Svetlenki
Good afternoon everyone. While visiting my sister, I used her Panasonic 2501 bread maker to knead pizza dough. I immediately noticed that she works very quietly for her - rustling during mixing. My 2501 European has a regular knock / knock during kneading. I was puzzled. It seems to me that my bread machine needs to be cleaned and lubricated somewhere. I met on the forum a sensible explanation of what needs to be done, and of course I have already forgotten where and who wrote. help, please, can anyone saved this post I will be very, very grateful and grateful
kartinka
Anatoly_1960, the same thing, only I bake the maximum size right away, so as not to bother with a small one and often bake two rolls in a row, so that there would always be different bread in the freezer
ladnomarina
Olga, cool bread!
And I have suffered with sourdough, I bake again with yeast
Marisha Aleksevna
Good day everyone! I baked "Fitness" bread from half of the "Fitness" pood bread mixture and added half of the products. It turned out very tasty and there are seeds in the mixture! I took a picture of what was left.









I have uploaded something, but it is not shown

$ vetLana
Marisha Aleksevna, given did not look.
Here is your bread
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Anchic
Marisha Aleksevna, this?
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Marisha Aleksevna
Yes, this is it. There are a lot of seeds in the mixture. I never thought it tastes so good with seeds
Crown
I never thought it tastes so good with seeds
Oh yeah! I constantly add seeds to bread and even buns.
Only I soak them in advance, then the seeds become healthier and, most importantly, much tastier, and for sprinkling on top, fried ones are better.You can also roll the finished dough in seeds, then all the bread crusts will be in seeds, this bread looks very appetizing!
Marisha Aleksevna
I can imagine how delicious! But I had seeds in the bread mixture and there are a lot of them.
Mirabel
Marinahow did you calculate everything in the fitness bread mixture?
Marisha Aleksevna
Mirabel, I took 1 teaspoon of yeast, 200 g of bread mixture, 150 g of wheat flour, 50 g of rye flour, 80 ml of milk and 180 ml of water, 1 teaspoon of salt, 1 tablespoon of sugar, 1 tablespoon of vegetable oil. Size M, light crust, Basic program. Yes, I forgot, another 0.5 tsp of panifarin, but this is optional, you can not add it. That is, I was guided by bulk products: flour + mixture = 400 g (this is for size M) and from this we dance with the rest of the products.

Girls and boys, I want to ask, did anyone bake bread with whole grain flour? Share your experience, what are the features?
$ vetLana
Quote: Marisha Aleksevna
whole grain flour
Specify: from 100% wheat cz? Or what% cs?
Marina, and more: tsz can be not only wheat, but also rye.
Svetlana201
Marisha Aleksevna, funky bread according to the recipe from HP Panasonic (dietary) from wheat whole grain flour turned out.
Mirabel
Marina, Thank you!
I baked yesterday from a mixture for spelled bread and half of the usual ingredients, on whey, on p Diet
Gorgeous !!!
Marisha Aleksevna
Svetlana, it says "Whole-grain wheat wallpaper". I bought a bag of 1 kg for testing, I heard that this flour is very useful. Now I really want to bake a delicious bread with her.




Mirabel, congratulations! I am very glad that I learned some more. I haven't tried spelled yet, but then I'll try




Svetlana201, thanks. I will try the recipe from the instructions, I still have it
$ vetLana
Marina, if interested, read it. We discussed tsz flour.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...338.0
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...338.0
Lena's posts read a pound, if you want, of course.
Marisha Aleksevna
Svetlana, thank you very much, found a lot of interesting things for herself
Micha
Hello dear Panasonic lovers! In the throes of choosing HP Panasonic models! I bake rye-wheat and rye sourdough bread with different seeds. I am also interested in dumplings and yeast dough. Probably 2510 is suitable for my tasks - any dough, both yeast-free and yeast-free - super, rye sourdough, as I understand it, can also be perfectly done in a semi-automatic mode (kneading on dumplings, proving, remove the spatula, baking (for baking or in French or dietary), without a scoop for rye, as I understood, it is also quite possible to do without.I am considering 2510 only because I do not want a dispenser, I have read, that it rumbles, that it breaks, that in the place of the dispenser the top of the bread may look somewhat unaesthetic ... I don’t understand what the diamond-fluoride coating of the 2510 bucket looks like — is it smooth, silky or slightly rough like those of pans? And yet, does the 2510 retain Settings in the event of a power outage (information about this model on different sites is very contradictory). consider 2501 or 2511? Or is 2510 quite suitable for my tasks?
$ vetLana
Quote: Micha
silky
yes, that is. Smooth.
Micha
Oh, that's good, the bucket, as I understand it, is also thick enough, not a tin?
$ vetLana
Quote: Micha

Oh, that's good, the bucket, as I understand it, is also thick enough, not a tin?
Nice heavy bucket.
Micha
Sorry for the stupid questions, I just never saw Panasonic in Real Madrid, and from that meager assortment in our stores, the bowls are completely tins and the coating is fucking ... There is no choice at all!
$ vetLana
Quote: Micha
Sorry for the stupid questions, I just never saw Panasonic in Real
It's okay. Ask
olche
Micha, sooo nice of course to receive thanks, but why did it come to me?
Mandraik Ludmila
I have 2511, the program saves after shutdown, but not always, until I understand what the joke is, perhaps, if it is turned off again, it does not save. But the shutdown for an hour does not last anymore, only a short-term shutdown remembers the program, if more than half an hour, then it is reset.
Palych
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
the program saves after shutdown, but not always, until I understand what the joke is
There is a supercapacitor, a capacitor with a large capacity, which stores the accumulated charge and feeds the processor for some time. In more budgetary models, they simply put high-capacity capacitors. In principle, it can supply power for more than 10 minutes, at least three days (if desired), but the controller must reset itself in software, what is the use of a "live" test in a significant pause? The dough is already trying, it will stop. 10 min. this is a certain point of no return that the manufacturer guarantees.
Mandraik Ludmila
Quote: Palych
should the controller reset itself, what is the use of a "live" test in a significant pause?
Logically
Micha
olche, for the information useful to me - you are the owner of 2510 - your opinion on the operation of this model is important to me! You confirm my guesses that in 2510 you can do everything, including baking rye bread without special programs and scoops! Once again, I just re-read the topic at night, so I noted interesting posts




Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
I have 2511, the program saves after turning off, but not always, until I understand what the joke is,

Yes, I read about 2511 that it saves the Settings for 7 or 10 minutes (like) when the power goes out, but I didn't understand about 2510, somewhere they write that there is no such option, but somewhere - that there is! We just often have short-term power outages - I don't want surprises





Mandraik Ludmila, that's really afraid to consider 2511 for only one reason - a dispenser! Of course, I would like both a rye shoulder blade, and the regime - suddenly I still need it




Somehow my messages are somehow cut off and disappear somewhere ...
Mandraik Ludmila
Evgeniya, I have a dispenser living on the table, if you read the topic, you could see: I close the hole from the dispensary with a foil from the chocolate. If you need bread with additives, I put the dispenser on and take it out after triggering. And you can simply, as in 2510 add on signal, in 2511 sound signals and pens on the screen completely replace the dispenser. So the dispenser does not play any "piano"
$ vetLana
MichaWhy is the dispenser scary? He lives with me, does not interfere in any way. I don't even think about him. There is and is. The rye program is important to me, because I bake it on the machine.
Micha
$ vetLana, I read in the topic that in a place where the dispenser-roof of the bread can "slide", I do not like a crooked or torn roof! As I understand it, if you take it off, you must cover the hole with foil, and if you don't take it off, it will still open and not close? Will there be a hole?




Mandraik Ludmila, yes, it was with you that I read that you close the hole with foil. Have you tried it without foil? How's the top of the bread?
$ vetLana
Quote: Micha
$ vetLana, I read in the topic that in a place where the dispenser-roof of the bread can "slide", I do not like a crooked or torn roof
The first time I hear about this
Well, if they write, then ... what if
Micha
$ vetLana, I understand that you can't make sourdough rye bread on the machine anyway in any HP? I don't use industrial yeast at all. The leaven is strong. At home, I usually put the dough at room temperature for 1 proofing for 3 hours, then knead, I can add seeds, put it in molds, and another 1.5 hours before baking. The bread rises well, very beautiful, the roof is without explosions, everything is even. I bake in a well-preheated oven to 250-260 by reducing it to 220-200 (depending on the presence of wheat flour in the dough). How will this process look like in HP?
Mandraik Ludmila
Micha, foil, these are my cockroaches, in fact, there is a special thickening of plastic above the dispensary in the roof, I think it plays the role of a reflector. But I'm calmer with the foil. It is not noticeable, the roof is double, and I rarely open the small roof, the foil lies there, does not ask for food, it performs its reflective function.




Here's a picture of the inside of the roof

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Micha
Mandraik Ludmila, thank you, calmed down. Apparently, my impressions were based on isolated cases, especially since there were photos and someone was giving an explanation of what this could be because of the dispenser! Now I tried to find and quote, but did not find it already.
Mandraik Ludmila
Micha, I have a Panasik for three years now and there were no problems with the roof of bread because of the dispensary. And it can't be, all the same, Panasiki are made very reliably.All the problems with bread are due to my mistakes or not following recipes, I sin with this, I like to fantasize when baking, it is not always successful, but it has nothing to do with Panasik
Micha
$ vetLana, oh, I found it! This is in the topic "the problem of the crust in Panasonic 2501": "for Panas with dispensers, the temperature is insufficient on top. especially if it worked big. need to be insulated "(link for beginners is prohibited)
Mandraik Ludmila
So this is 2501, and Sveta and I have 2511, I don't have any special problems with the crust
Olekma
Micha, I have a 2510 stove, settings after disconnecting El. power keeps 10 minutes.
Micha
Thank you all for your help in choosing! Ordered 2511 for Oh, bread! Don't know, a normal online store? Something the price is very different from others ...
$ vetLana
Evgeniya, if they start sniffing other HP, run from there. It means - razvodilovo and they don't have Panasiks.
We already know such cases.
Micha
$ vetLana, yes, I read about it in threads! But I did not find information about a specific store! Prices for all CPs from different manufacturers are rather low. Payment on delivery after checking by courier, well, or by mail ... so it seems like I'm not risking anything? And yet it is exciting ... on the WB I still have Krustina in the postponed ones (no one answered me in the topic about her, but, of course, a very attractive gadget, although I'm not sure whether it is suitable for my tasks). If it doesn't work out with 2511, I'll take Krustina! So destiny! While I'm waiting for the call ...

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