Rina
and stainless steel and yeast. dispenser so required? Take the 2501, there are almost no complaints about them (like there was one message about a creak, but this is not an example of the 2502nd model).
Found one of your first messages

Quote: Bohemia


And I chose a stainless steel for two reasons:
1. I was frightened by the review read on the Internet. A man bought HB Panasonic, and during the preparation of the bread, the plastic melted and ended up in the bread itself ... Most likely, there was a fake (it seems to me), but the recall burned into memory.
2. I have a multicooker made of white plastic. During active operation, the appearance has suffered, it does not look very good. The plastic has turned a little yellow, the letters have worn off. I hope that the stainless steel retains its new look for a longer period.

I have a stove for five years now. To say that I do not take care of it is to say nothing, and I have it so dirty, and I managed to "clean" the case with an abrasive powder and a sponge. The yellowing on the plastic is very slight - in the place where the lid is attached to the body (this is at the back), and even inside the stove (but we rarely look there). In other places, the plastic has not changed color.

"Feedback from the Internet" is either crap (often occurs, not everything can be trusted), or a person simply hates Panasonic (and there are such people), so he invents all kinds of, sorry, garbage.
Wit
I took in Citylink. And I often take it there. Their prices are reasonable, but if something happens, then you need to drag it to Opticians, 4. And so it is quite satisfied.
Well, about stainless steel and plastic - this is complete nonsense! By the way, you need Lagri ask if she sees a stainless steel inside. Or maybe you remember. And then it seems to me that they wrapped a plastic case with a sheet of stainless steel (after all, the sheet is soooooooo - it will bend) and ripped off an extra thousand from you. And that dispense ... her, I’ll start and Lagri will be angry.
Rina
yes there is no inside the stainless steel! She's a conductor of heat! And if it had both internal and external parts, then this body would be warmed up, Mom, do not worry!
Wit
Here I am about it! And now to ask: "And where did the plaastik come from there, which is in! Bread! Straight melted. And who poked it there so aptly?"
But beautiful! And again, disp ... I am silent;) I am silent
* Anyuta *
Quote: Wit

Here I am about it! And now to ask: "And where did the Plaastik come from there, which is in! Bread! Straight melted."

oh, Wit-smart! just killed! ...
it (plastic) .. to see through the teflon bucket "leaked" or the lid, oddly enough, trimmed with metal !!!!

I would personally twist it at my temple, to the one who wrote it! 🔗
Bohemia
I found this review!) Can you insert direct links here ???
🔗
sazalexter
Bohemia You can, the main thing is not clickable and without phishing
Rina
hmm ... with such a response, I can assume one thing - a person bought a used stove, after some kind of left repair ... or he dreamed something, as the result "the dough did not rise, the bread was not baked" does not fit with the reason "plastic melted" ...

and then ALL reviews
🔗

and on 2501 (without letters)
🔗
Lagri
Quote: Wit

By the way, you need Lagri ask if she sees a stainless steel inside. Or maybe you remember. And then it seems to me that they wrapped a plastic case with a sheet of stainless steel (after all, the sheet is soooooooo - it will bend) and ripped off an extra thousand from you. And that dispense ... her, I’ll start and Lagri will be angry.
Wit, 2502 - super! I have never regretted that I bought it. Even if one of the three is now offered, I would choose 2502.
skippli
Quote: Bohemia

Hello everyone.
I'm here with a problem too. HB 2502 was bought 3 days ago. Everything was fine the first time using it. The second time he showed, apparently, a marriage - a rattle when kneading dough.
I have no idea what awaits me in the warranty. Most likely hassle. ((
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I do not know if I am quoting correctly, on the problem with the creak.
I also started to creak on the 5th day (Panasonic 2502), since xn provides a memory for 10 minutes when the light is interrupted, then my actions were as follows:
during the next break in the batch, I turned off the stove from the outlet, then turned the bucket 180 degrees and put it back. turning it clockwise more firmly (so that it would hook more tightly in the mount, in the grooves). plugged in, the batch continued further. that is, the process did not stop. the stove stopped creaking. can anyone help my experience in solving this problem. but in general it creaks from a bad clamping in the grooves.
and I have such a question, the oven baked bread 8. at first the spatula was put on tightly, and now it is already dangling. And how are you??? I looked, inside the blade the metal "squeezed" a little (because lumin) but this is normal, the main shaft must be strong. I eliminate this defect like this: I put the spatula in a bucket, and I choose the backlash by inserting a toothpick between the shaft and the spatula, I break off the excess. so it does not dangle and does not fall out with bread. I do not insert strongly, because then it is difficult to remove the scapula itself for maintenance
this is my first stove, but the experience of a locksmith tries to understand and eliminate what I can myself.
skippli
addition: the video shows how the bucket is swinging, it is not fixed in the nest. that's why the rolling creak.
when rolling, the nest breaks even more and will dangle even more. therefore, try not to allow the bucket to play in the nest.
Wit
Quote: skippli

addition: the video shows how the bucket is swinging, it is not fixed in the nest. that's why the rolling creak.
when rolling, the nest breaks even more and will dangle even more. therefore, try not to allow the bucket to play in the nest.
You have dealt with the bucket correctly. But with a scapula ..!. : The fact is, the clearance between the blade and the shaft is provided by the design and this invention is patented. Scapula should hang out in bulk! (I write together on purpose). You just haven't mastered the branch like I did. And since the morning I have no strength to explain in detail. Believe it or check it out. No toothpicks! When baking, a crust forms around the shaft and spatula at the bottom, which prevents the spatula from flying off when shaking out the finished bread from the bucket. It is not necessary to pull the blade off the shaft. Pour some water into the bucket and let stand for a few minutes. The crust will get wet and you can easily remove the scapula. Then, having admired this "washer" crust, easily knock it off with your finger. Next, just wash the bucket. All!
skippli
thanks for the science. just scared. after a week of using such a big backlash. so I think that it will continue to break. and there it is close to scrolling. and then into the trash. sorry ...
Tata-SPb
Quote: Bohemia

No, I'm not afraid of online stores. I bought it at Kibbury. I am happy with this store. I bought a lot of things from them, marriage is always changed.
And I often use Yulmart.
Found this xb in the Fridge. RU. It seems that someone here bought this hb in this store? And, if I'm not confused, they were satisfied with the store. I need to reread the thread.
I took a squeaky one in the refrigerator. The store is good.
Tata-SPb
Quote: Rina

and stainless steel and yeast. dispenser so required? Take the 2501, there are almost no complaints about them (like there was one message about a creak, but this is not an example of the 2502nd model).
at the time when I was working on my squeaky 2501, I counted here on the forum and found 4 complaints about 2501, 5 complaints about 2502, at that time there was a small advantage.
Rina
And somehow it seemed to me that mainly complaints about stainless steel. Means wrong. I thought the problem was in the new mount. But there are no complaints about 2500. Or do we have much less of them?
Narkom
tomorrow I will pick my own, that the dispenser for additives does not open ... a trifle, but I want everything to work.
Wit
Ligo89
Tell me, I have a Panasonic SD-ZB2502, there is a yeast dispenser, it works, but the latch does not return to its original position, you have to put it in place by hand. That is how it should be?
Wit
Let's wait for an answer Lagri
Stafa
Quote: Ligo89

Tell me, I have a Panasonic SD-ZB2502, there is a yeast dispenser, it works, but the latch does not return to its original position, you have to put it in place by hand.That is how it should be?
The dispenser closes itself - sometimes before baking itself.
joker
Somehow your yeast dispenser is not working properly - it should open, in a second it will close and so on four times. ... ...
Lika_n
Tell me .. maybe I'm doing something wrong .. or the mode does not work, or it is not at all in this model
Panasonic 256
trying to turn on the raisin dough mode.
if you choose a croissant D0UGH-start-turns on and works normally 2.20
if you choose a croissant and DOUGH RAISIN (dough and raisins) - pressing start .. switches to Bread in a dot (peas) and the RAISIN mode is turned on

this is how it should be .. or is there something wrong with me ..
Can anyone check this model for themselves.
Thank you.
Narkom
Quote: Ligo89

Tell me, I have a Panasonic SD-ZB2502, there is a yeast dispenser, it works, but the latch does not return to its original position, you have to put it in place by hand. That is how it should be?
it should close itself (in my main mode it opens and closes 8 times), only the dispenser for raisins and nuts remains open.
Ligo89
Quote: joker

Somehow your yeast dispenser is not working properly - it should open, in a second it will close and so on four times. ... ...
The dispenser works 4 times, but after the last click it remains open, I did not pay attention for the first time and during the next batch, my yeast immediately fell into the bucket.
Narkom
Quote: Ligo89

The dispenser works 4 times, but after the last click it remains open, I did not pay attention for the first time and during the next batch, my yeast immediately fell into the bucket.
this is a malfunction, it should close.

I pulled out the dispenser and realized that once he caught the dough and baked it, the conclusion is that he is a fool himself, you need to be more careful.
Rina
Quote: Lika_n

Tell me .. maybe I'm doing something wrong .. or the mode does not work, or it is not at all in this model
Panasonic 256
trying to turn on the raisin dough mode.
if you choose a croissant D0UGH-start-turns on and works normally 2.20
if you choose a croissant and DOUGH RAISIN (dough and raisins) - pressing start .. switches to Bread in a dot (peas) and the RAISIN mode is turned on

this is how it should be .. or is there something wrong with me ..
Can anyone check this model for themselves.
Thank you.
a croissant should be flickering, two words Dough Raisin, time 2:20. After launch, all these icons remain on the screen (croissant, Dough Raisin, 2:20) and the word rest.
Lika_n
Ira, they blink when you select, but when you press start .. switches to the riser (and time 47) .. and so on the main and dietary .. went checked today ..
maybe due to the fact that there is no dispenser .. this mode in our model should be .. or marriage
you cannot turn on the raisin dough mode ..
and what to do?
Rina
make a test batch. If the program reaches the end, you will get a sweet roll. But I would advise in the office. service - most likely something with brains at the stove, and this is not treated at home, only in a hospital.
Lika_n
: rose: Thank you ... now I put it on this bun with polka dots .. I am watching ..
not well, who carried me with this dough with raisins.

girls who also have 256 check just in case .. you switch to this mode .. dough with raisins.
Catwoman
Quote: Lika_n

Ira, they blink when you select, but when you press start .. switches to the riser (and time 47) .. and so on the main and dietary .. went checked today ..
maybe due to the fact that there is no dispenser .. this mode in our model should be .. or marriage
you cannot turn on the raisin dough mode ..
and what to do?

Anzhenika, wrote in a personal, if on the main one I expose the dough with raisins according to the program, I get 1.12. I bake cake with raisins on this program. everything is fine. then I turn on the baking separately.
Lika_n
shorter japanese mother (sorry for my French :))) .. but this needs to be warned

in short, it switches to the pea bun mode .. and the time costs 47 (well, this is from the tempera in the room) .. after 25 minutes he began to knead .. mixed .. squeaked .. like drive raisins :))) the pea bun and zero are flashing. . stand looking ... wandered off .. and
japanese mother :))))) switched to croissant mode with raisins raisin dawn (and the time is 1.25 .. or well, somewhere .. I looked at the mode :)))

but right away .. when selecting the mode, it does NOT select the dough with raisins (croissant with dawn izen)

it looks like we have such a mode associated with a dispenser ... he can only have a voice on a bun with polka dots .. and immediately set it as in model 255 .. dough with raisins (2.20) CAN'T ..
just the dough is exposed.
Rina
See, she figured it out herself ...Otherwise, it would be fun - to change the brains of the stove
Lika_n
Ira, maybe this information (a feature of the mode in 256) where to stick it .. otherwise, maybe through the m-c .. someone, too, like me will try this mode ... it will be difficult to find ...
Thank you.
Katena
returned me my creaky stove after examination, wrote that everything was fine with it
when I opened the box to check the package contents, I saw that everything was exactly the same as I handed in (packed the measuring cup and stirrers in my bags and tied them in my own way), in short, the maximum they could do in the technical center was to turn it on and off bread maker, there was no check with kneading dough
I will probably have to go to court, only I will still collect information about such cases
Wit
I probably missed it, but did you contact the OZPP? They will help you draw up a claim in court and will help you with advice. And these "friends" must be warned that you will file a claim in court. They can back down. Good luck!
Meri popins
Hello! I'll add another 2501 to the statistics with a scratch. This is my first bread maker. I've only had it for a week. The first two breads were prepared perfectly, the stirrer murmured softly - just a song! Then I deducted how to halve the amount of yeast, after making a batch on "dumplings". And from that moment something started for us! Namely - creak and rattle, as in the videos that are already in the subject. I read everything here that related to this problem, and was depressed. Since I am not a fighter. I do not know how to download the right (((BUT! I got up my courage and called the store, identified the problem and asked how to be now? A very kind girl asked if I wanted to take money or exchange HP. I chose an exchange, (maybe the stove is cool and I became akin to her already) In less than 5 minutes, they sent a new order number and tomorrow I can get it! I really wanted to share my joy with you. I was also lucky with the choice of the store. I bought in Enter, maybe it will come in handy for someone.
By the way, my hp is also from the September batch. I hope with all my might that the bomb will not fall into one funnel a second time and the second furnace will be free from defects.
Wit
I am sincerely glad for you, Meri popins! Delicious bread for you!
Lyudkin
I'll put it up here too, look, on Friday I just bought a bread maker, but now I don't know what to do
alison
Help! I've been using a Panasonic SD2501 bread maker for a couple of years (I won't say more precisely, since I could not find the purchase documents). Until recently, bread always turned out, a little better, a little worse, but in general - no problems (except the first time, but there I myself measured the flour incorrectly). And now with the second bread, problems (((During kneading, for some reason, the dough strays into one corner, does not rise normally (it seems that the oven should warm up a little during the rise? What is it? Is something broken? The ingredients are all the same, just two or three days ago everything was perfectly cooked, I tried two different recipes with different blades - the result is the same. And the bread is baked. Where to go? To the service? Or for a new one. stove?
Wit
First, after kneading, place the dough in a warm place to rise. Has risen - we exclude the first reason (low-quality) products. The second remains - the program fails and the heating element does not turn on. Service. Need a flashing or replacement of brains. This can be expensive. If my opinion interests, I would renovate. Good luck to you!
alison
Quote: Wit

First, after kneading, place the dough in a warm place to rise. Has risen - we exclude the first reason (low-quality) products. The second remains - the program fails and the heating element does not turn on. Service. Need a flashing or replacement of brains. This can be expensive. If my opinion interests, I would renovate. Good luck to you!
Thank you! I think that it’s not about the food, because I’ve already cooked from the same flour, yeast, salt, sugar, olive oil. That is, before that, and specifically from this open pack. A year's warranty? That is, you can no longer look for a check?
VishenkaSV
Quote: alison

Thank you! I think that it’s not about the food, because I’ve already cooked from the same flour, yeast, salt, sugar, olive oil. Ie.and before, and specifically from this open pack. A year's warranty? That is, you can no longer look for a check?
I faced such a problem, but with a different x. n. Result-bought Panasonic !!
alison
I called the SC, told to try again and measure the food on the scales. I have been measuring with a glass for two years (translated grams into milliliters), it always worked out. But they did not want to listen to me, they say, in 90% of cases - they measured incorrectly or the products are of poor quality.
Can't there be a problem with the scapula? With this thing that turns it around? (Sorry, I don’t know the name). The gingerbread man also does not work (((I do not understand, either it does not stir, or does not heat up during the ascent. There are no other options (((
Oca
Now it's warmer and my stove has stopped heating the dough during kneading - only on the rise. I can't give detailed statistics, because I bake bread in the morning. Yesterday my mother sent photos of the bread of her HP made from new flour (I bought some of the cheapest ones). The result Bread from 400g of flour rose above the bucket with the roof! And now I have no higher than 12 cm, although I was 13-14 cm. So I think, can I put old flour on pies, and buy new fresh?
PS In the old flour, you have to pour not 260 g of water, but already 300-310 g per 400 g of flour, otherwise the bun is very tight and does not mix.
alison
I decided to try again, pour more water, and pour less flour, because the bun looked very tight. Maybe this is the case? I really do not want to give my stove for repair, we are used to homemade bread already (
Rina
alison, is the bun really tight? Check the dough kneading and yeast quality. Flour, especially from an open pack, often dries up at home. Therefore, the control of the kolobok!

If it is difficult for the stove to stir even a soft kolobok, then, perhaps, repairs will still be required - replacing the capacitor. Here, approximately from here read.
alison
Quote: Rina

alison, is the bun really tight? Check the dough kneading and yeast quality. Flour, especially from an open pack, often dries up at home. Therefore, the control of the kolobok!

If it is difficult for the stove to stir even a soft kolobok, then, perhaps, repairs will still be required - replacing the capacitor. Here, approximately from here read.
Yes, the bun was very tight, straight rubber, both times. Now I put in less flour (but I had to add two tablespoons) and more water. It interferes well, actively, like a bun. But the dough is a little thin (I was afraid to add a lot of flour). I wait and hope)) Another 3 hours)))
Rina
then change products.
alison
Quote: Rina

then change products.
Yes, I baked, baked, didn't bother too much Already a pro I felt myself straight And here ...)))
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